freemind mindmaps

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nihilobstat

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Oct 14, 2005, 12:39:47 PM10/14/05
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Hi, i added a Freemind
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page mindmap to my
TiddlyWiki, Freemind format is html, is it possible to crawl my Tiddly
with a Python script and generate a Freemind map?

Or do it right through Java?


There is also something called Wikibrowser: TouchGraph WikiBrowser
V1.02(c) 2002, Alexander Shapiro http://www.touchgraph.com/

could that be used for starters?


Thanks, george

Daniel Baird

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Oct 15, 2005, 6:39:46 AM10/15/05
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The main problem with turning tiddlers into "mind maps" is that mind maps are (AFAIK) strictly heirarchical, whereas tiddlers form a potentially cyclic node map -- or in other words, tiddlers link back and forth and up and down, all over the shop, rather than in a neat tree.

WikiBrowser on the other hand *does* allow the right kind of maps.. is it open source?  It doesn't say on the home page and I can't be bothered downloading it to find out.  Ideally there'd be some kind of standard way of representing nodes and edges as XML or whatever, that you could load into any graphing tool -- does anyone know if there's a standard node/edge file format?

;Daniel
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DaveG

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Oct 17, 2005, 7:42:05 AM10/17/05
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Hi,

as far as I know (and I looked into this some time ago) the file it
needs is a text file format that is generated by the wiki.
There is an open source version - But I couldn't work out the file
format from that.

It would be a great project...

notstrom

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Oct 17, 2005, 1:35:39 PM10/17/05
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Hi,

one could possibly also do this with the help of graphviz's dot
utility. A script would scan the tiddlywiki file and write a file that
is read by dot to create a network diagram ...

DaveG

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Oct 18, 2005, 5:29:20 AM10/18/05
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Yes, I meant to mention dot.
It is a simple file format so it is easy to generate and read (XML is
easy to generate ;-).

Also there are several programs that read it - Omnigraffle for one.
There is a nice graphviz implementation for MacOS, easy to use.

Another free possibility (for Windows) is
http://www.oreas.com/gde_en.php go-visual. there is a free community
edition for windows. It doesn't use dot but can read from a simple CSV
file with 3 columns (pick the three you want) for node, dependency,
label. It can export to SVG and picture formats like jpg. It has lots
of auto layout options.
I have used it for generating network maps from traceroute output.
Check out
http://dmoz.org/Science/Math/Combinatorics/Software/Graph_Drawing/ for
lots of possibilities.

HTH
dave

nihilobstat

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Oct 20, 2005, 3:34:39 PM10/20/05
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Daniel,

thank you for your reaction, yes, most mindmaps are heirarchical,
however Freemind has the possibility to link items by arrows or lines
outside the heirarchy. It also has the possibility of using different
colors so I would like to color links originating from sliders
different from links which are tiddlers and different from tags macro's
and different from links originating from the faqlist macro.
George

> http://bur.st/~blazeoz/tiddlywinks/<http://bur.st/%7Eblazeoz/tiddlywinks/>

> <http://bur.st/%7Eblazeoz/hopefulcynic/>

nihilobstat

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Oct 20, 2005, 3:36:08 PM10/20/05
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Thanks notstrom, I am following googlelinks to graphviz dot utility
george

nihilobstat

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Oct 20, 2005, 3:37:14 PM10/20/05
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DaveG,

thanks for your links, tons of information, I am digging into it,
george

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