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Neil Olonoff

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:42:23 AM1/6/10
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Hello -

When I heard about "TiddlySnips" it sounded great. It's a plugin for Firefox that will automatically upload a clipping to TiddlyWiki. Unfortunately, the latest version of Firefox will not install it because it does not do secure updates.

I'm wondering if there are any other tools that will upload a web clipping (or clipboard clip) to TiddlyWiki. It would be a really cool gadget.

thanks,

Neil


Morris Gray

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Jan 6, 2010, 9:36:32 AM1/6/10
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Make sure you download TiddlySnip+1.21beta for FF3.

You can get it here:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlySnip/msg/ff4c8033d4577a9e

Or from from Files in the right margin of the TiddlySnip discussion
group i.e. TiddlySnip
+1.21beta.zip

Unzip it and save it to a file. In Firefox click File > Open File >
then find the .xpi file you just saved and click open. This has been
the solution for most users.

Good Luck,
Morris

Mark S.

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Jan 6, 2010, 11:48:42 AM1/6/10
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I would also be interested if there are other tools that do something
similar, even if not explicitly for TW.

The problem with TiddlySnip, is that it appends to the bottom of your
TW file. Which means:

1) You have to make sure you've saved your current TW before
a TiddlySnip session
2) You have to reload your TW before you see the changes.

I used to have a text editor that could accumulate text as you copied.
Something like that used in conjunction with Its All Text plugin might
result in a better work flow.

Mark

shavinder

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Jan 6, 2010, 1:21:06 PM1/6/10
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You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
try this:

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef97dec18a17

This method circumvents not only the unsecure updates error, but also
the FF version error :-)

Hope this helps. If it does do tell us, cos i tried this only on Puppy
Linux, I would like to know if it works on other systems too.

-shavinder

Morris Gray

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:51:09 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder <shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
> try this:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

That sounds great. Since you've done all the hard work, and to save
others that exercise, why don't you put it in the Files section of the
TiddlySnip Group and we can all give it a try on other systems.

Morris

On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder <shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
> try this:
>

> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

shavinder

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Jan 7, 2010, 12:07:11 PM1/7/10
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I have uploaded the modified Tiddlysnip file. I tried it again and the
xpi installs ok on FF 3.5.7. on PuppyLinux4.3

David

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:19:29 PM1/7/10
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Shavinder: Your talk about Puppy Linux on a usb stick got me very
curious, so I've done some quick searches on it. One unanswered
question for me is, does Puppy come with a GUI (or can one be added)?
I've avoided Linux because I'm a spoiled Mac user who has never even
opened Terminal (though I did use command line interfaces back in the
dark ages). Just wondering about GUI.

David

josep

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:41:56 PM1/7/10
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david,

this video is self-explaining about browserlinux last version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGwaYWwPYl8

hope this help,
josep

David

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:46:25 PM1/7/10
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thanks, josep ... just what I needed ... the speed is really
amazing ... this might be a good way to stick my toe in the linux pond

David

shavinder

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:12:09 PM1/7/10
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Hi David,
Try puppy! its great, its a dekstop linux with good looking GUI. I
have been running off a USB stick for many months now. You would have
to get used to rox filer(its a desktop manager like Gnome and others
but is very minimal). The right click context menu is very different
from ubuntu or windows other full desktops OSes. For example the best
way to copy/move a file from one place to the other is by opening the
source and target folder in separate windows and just click-dragging
the file. It then gives you option of move or copy. Its different from
rightclick>copy>paste paradigm :)

Abiword comes bundled with it but I am not happy with it. It does a
very poor job of dealing with MSWord files. Its better to separately
download Open Office SFS files, which you can search on puppy forums.
Besides Open Office you might be interested in installing Pidgin
(multiprotocol chat client) and Firefox (of course). Both are
available as PET files which just install in seconds. You can find
links for these on forums.

Like tiddlywiki puppy community at IRC #puppylinux is quite helpful. I
think you ought to try the standard version first and later digress to
modified ones which are known as Puplets.

David

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Jan 8, 2010, 12:24:12 PM1/8/10
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Thanks for your great suggestions, Shavinder. I've grown more curious
about Linux and the popular Ubuntu, and have only just heard about
Puppy. Something about carrying an OS around on a stick sounds really
great. I will have to give it a try. Though I do use some pretty high
end graphics programs (such as the Adobe Creative Suite), I don't use
them often much anymore, and may be quite content with some of the
FOSS apps out there. While I'm in grad school I do a little adjunct
teaching on the side, and it makes me so mad that the college requires
the students to purchase MS Office 2007 Professional. They can get it
for only $59, but if I ran the world, I would have every college and
university on Open Office. Students already have too many expenses.

Thanks again!

David

Måns

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:44:04 PM1/8/10
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Hi David

> Though I do use some pretty high
> end graphics programs (such as the Adobe Creative Suite), I don't use
> them often much anymore, and may be quite content with some of the
> FOSS apps out there. While I'm in grad school I do a little adjunct
> teaching on the side, and it makes me so mad that the college requires
> the students to purchase MS Office 2007 Professional. They can get it
> for only $59, but if I ran the world, I would have every college and
> university on Open Office. Students already have too many expenses.

All students should have a Gecko EduBook (http://www.norhtec.com/
products/gecko/index.html or http://www.norhtec.com/info/datasheets/geckoedubookbrochure.pdf)
with 1 GB ram 6 GB sd, wireless card (or 3g with free internet) and
Puppy Linux installed with OpenOffice, Gimp and InkScape, (maybe even
Scribus, Ardour and RoseGarden - if needed). At school they should
have access to stations where they could plug a copy of their save.sfs
with a second sd or usb (EduBook has 2 sd-slots one internal and
another external) into the network - running a Virtual puppy... Very
affordable and even trendy. :-)

According to the puppy community users have had success with running
Puppy on Thin Clients with less than 256 mb of ram - so there should
be no reason why you shouldn't be able to get a very responsive system
(no fans or moveable parts) for very little money.. (maybe even
levelling the price of MS Office?!)

I'm for my part, have been using Puppy derivatives from an usb stick
on my corporate IBM/Lenovo, with 1 GB ram (T52) for a year now. (The
harddisc is broken) And everything I need from a computer is possible
with Puppy.
In BrowserLinux (very small puplet with FireFox 3.5.5) I have also
installed Open Office 3.1.1 (as an .sfs) and it runs much faster than
it did in Xp pro.
I also installed Lilypond (music notation without a gui) and now I'm
writing my music notes directly in OpenOffice with Lilypond. For full
scores I use MuseScore and export to Lilypond for high quality
graphics.

Everything with TiddlyWiki works perfectly on this system (with my
hardware) and the speed/responsetime is absolutely topnotch....

If you like TiddlyWikis hackability and seemingly endless
possibilities - I'm sure you will love Puppy linux - it has some of
the same characteristics.

Regards Måns Mårtensson

David

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:33:19 PM1/8/10
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Måns, the EduBook is really very cool. This is the first I've heard of
it. I can see its potential in almost any educational setting, and
it's exciting to think of the potential for students with low income,
or even in the developing world. Instead, most colleges and
universities that I know are locked into the Microsoft mindset. They
see it as "expected" by the business community, and they also express
bias against open source products because they fear support issues.
It's clear the overall Linux community is making great strides, and
that mindset will change given enough time. Thanks for clueing me in
on this one!

On Jan 8, 1:44 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi David
>
> > Though I do use some pretty high
> > end graphics programs (such as the Adobe Creative Suite), I don't use
> > them often much anymore, and may be quite content with some of the
> > FOSS apps out there. While I'm in grad school I do a little adjunct
> > teaching on the side, and it makes me so mad that the college requires
> > the students to purchase MS Office 2007 Professional. They can get it
> > for only $59, but if I ran the world, I would have every college and
> > university on Open Office. Students already have too many expenses.
>
> All students should have a Gecko EduBook (http://www.norhtec.com/

> products/gecko/index.html orhttp://www.norhtec.com/info/datasheets/geckoedubookbrochure.pdf)

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