Favicon as tag?

[axelm]

I am just wondering if there is a simple way to have a favicon as a tag?
The favicon's file name could be used for search purposes?

Just an idea.

axelm

[whatever]

You can't use the favicon itself as a tag, but you can use its name.
You just need to manually add it to the desired tiddler or write a
script.

w

[Alex Hough]

Do you mean using a icon as a tag? Then choosing the tag by clicking on an icon?

ALex

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[axelm]

Yes, exactly.

axelm

[Bauwe Bijl]

Hi Axelm

Now Alex got the things cleared up I might have some idea.
Confusing is the word favicon....this is a small image (usually about
16x16 px) used as "shortcut icon" in the browser. Because it's named
favicon.ico it is processed this way.
Now if we talk about small images for usage instead of tags there are
some things to consider.

I can imagine a bunch of tags displayed as a cloud when in edit mode
under each tiddler. Instead of a written tag-name this might be a
icon....however when this is used, the click on the icon will put the
a name in the tag ...instead of a visible icon.
Because images are rather abstract you can only put a meaning to
it....but not the use the image inside the tags. (imagine your tag is
processed as the word photo1.jpg ...no meaningful tag for humans (tw
does not care) )

Also consider icons are limited....you can put in 10 icons and find
that you need another tag for 11. In such case it's more logic to
write a word. (creation of tag-words can be endless).
However this depends on the use-case. For readers this is not the case
I guess because they don't need to edit.
For editors...do you want to limit them to a pre-created set of icons?

The only thing I can think of is the use glyphs (html entities). Lets
say the letter A or the letter B are glyphs....then a :) is also a
glyph.
Or ➋ ❀ ✂ ✈
however these are not going to help you around the globe because of
character encoding.
For instance  ...(alt-shift-k makes an apple symbol here on the mac)
but usually is shown as a square on other clients. So it all depends
on how you are going to use it...

Bauwe

☺

[Alex Hough]

I think this is a very interesting idea

> I can imagine a bunch of tags displayed as a cloud when in edit mode
> under each tiddler. Instead of a written tag-name this might be a
> icon....

The tags name could be arbitrary (ImageTag1, ImageTag2) and the
meaning injected into a purely visual way. You could tag with a
picture, and that picture could change. You could then tag that
picture with text (or an other tag).

Turning it upside down for a moment, imaging the tiddler is an image
and then you wanted to use this as a tag. The use case is not hard to
imagine. You are walking along with your phone, you see something that
reminds you of something. You take a photo of it, then when you get
home you add tiddler tagged with the image -- is a TaggyTaggin way ,
new here. Then you can build up the information tied to that
photograph (or any data that the image might also capture such as GPS
location).

I got this idea from reading about how to memorise things. The story
goes that a roman emperor used to remember speeches by waling a route
and using objects he saw on his journey as visual cues for what he
might say. A search for "Ciscero memory method" brings up many
results, but method of loci [1] is the one i found most useful.

As for implementation I think the generating of the tiddler from the
image would be a lot easier. The tiddler could display an image in a
tags div (or a mini sideshow if there were more than one)

I thought that this would work best on an iPhone (i don't have one).
You would take the picture and that act would be the same as creating
a new tiddler. For GTD type maneuvres, I'd take a picture of the fish
shop for example, then add some items; squid, mackerel etc. These
tiddlers could be photos too - my shoping list could -- with the help
of the ELS story saver plugin [2] -- be a story. My journey becomes a
story

Alex

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
[2] http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#StorySaverPlugin

> Because images are rather abstract you can only put a meaning to
> it....but not the use the image inside the tags. (imagine your tag is
> processed as the word photo1.jpg ...no meaningful tag for humans (tw
> does not care) )
>
> Also consider icons are limited....you can put in 10 icons and find
> that you need another tag for 11. In such case it's more logic to
> write a word. (creation of tag-words can be endless).
> However this depends on the use-case. For readers this is not the case
> I guess because they don't need to edit.
> For editors...do you want to limit them to a pre-created set of icons?
>
> The only thing I can think of is the use glyphs (html entities). Lets
> say the letter A or the letter B are glyphs....then a :) is also a
> glyph.
> Or ➋ ❀ ✂ ✈
> however these are not going to help you around the globe because of
> character encoding.
> For instance  ...(alt-shift-k makes an apple symbol here on the mac)
> but usually is shown as a square on other clients. So it all depends
> on how you are going to use it...
>
> Bauwe
>
> ☺
>

[Alex Hough]

Bauwe,

I just found this [1]by chance: your pictowiki. Could this work inform
the tags as icons idea?

Alex

[1]http://vimeo.com/11839755