Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cayman Is. fishing?

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Michael Smith

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Sep 9, 2014, 5:17:53 PM9/9/14
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Check out Davin's blog. http://www.fish-bones.com/about.html

Plenty of wading flats, I'll have to map recon to give you locations.  Guided is about $450/day.



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From: "Miles" <m...@oppidi.net>
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Subject: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Cayman Is. fishing?
Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2014 4:59 PM

I'll be in Grand Cayman for a week coming up, and was hoping somebody up here has tips for fishing down there. We'll be on the beach, not sure exactly where: are there species I can get to from shore? Are there good spots for wading anglers? Any special flies?

thanks,

Miles

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Miles

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Thanks, Michael. Davin is $275 for a half day, which I might be able to afford. I sent him an email.

Miles

Smith, Michael

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Sep 10, 2014, 3:18:03 PM9/10/14
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Also try these solo:
Barker's National Park, the whole NE side of the park is a good flat and don’t discount the edge between the beach and the eelgrass further west.

Cay off of Seaview Road.  Huge flat, I missed my first bone there.

Jetty at the tip of the canal coming out of the Blue Tip Golf Course.  I hit some jacks and a snook in there.  The canal has barracuda and tarpon in it.



Also if you do deep-sea fishing/trolling, there are tunas, wahoos, etc. just off of the huge barrier reef.  I caught a boat out of Morgan’s Harbour.
Morgan's Harbour, West Bay, Cayman Islands.



90% of the time I had on a creature-style fly or a grey/white #4 clouser.  Given the number of “sprats” I saw on the island being hand-netted (and fed to the stingrays), a 3-inch chartreuse clouser would be much awesome for just about anything that is piscivorous, tarpon included.


Also go diving on the reef and hit up stingray city.  Kiss a stingray and you get 7 years of good luck, so try that before you go fishing.









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Bruce Mathews

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Sep 11, 2014, 1:49:42 PM9/11/14
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 I might add a couple of comments:
On the Seaview Drive look for the Heritage Beach site just east of the Frank Sound Dock.  I have bumped into the local guide there several times.  The guide likes the water from the Beach site parking west toward the Frank Sound Dock.  The Dock is interesting and often you can see muddy areas from the doc where the bones are mudding.

I had my best bone fishing this past spring at Rum Point on the north side.  You said you were staying at "the beach" which I assume is 7-Mile Beach.  I have never fished the open water there but I imagine its much like the US East Coast.  Probably early morning is best.   This spring there was a school of about 75 bones that liked to hang in the roped off swimming area (Rum Point).  I got called down once or twice for fishing too close to the area.  At the Rum point beach there is a large long flat to the west and if the party boats aren't too thick there are often a lot of fish moving there. This bottom is hard sand - easy walking.  Around to the east (go behind the condo till you can get to the water) I have caught blue runners, yellow tails, cuda, snook.  The shore line (east side) has a lot of that Ironshore Limestone and is pretty rough wading. 

If you get trapped downtown and have a 4 pc (6 pc is better) rod there is a place by the Lobster Pot restaurant (I think it's called Hammond Beach) where the locals clean their catch and there are always some fairly large tarpon there along with cuda.  Its a working doc but if all the dive boats are away from the dock no one cares.  A spinning rod could be better here.  Easy walk form the main downtown shopping my  wife likes and if you are on 7 mile beach it may not be far from there.  Borrow a bike.  Be sure to visit the Guy Harvey store and have a drink on his restaurant deck.



I find tides in Cayman strange.  They don't cycle like the east coast.  Maybe someone on the list can explain them.
 
 
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Pictures are bones in the Rum Point swimming area.  I had to wait for them to get under that rope.  Caught quite a few.  Fly didn't seem to matter but they didn't like the fly landing on their heads even in several feet of water.  Take some typical flies with a weed guard as there always seems to be some floating turtle grass around.

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On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:18 PM, "Smith, Michael" <ryb...@ryzhe.ath.cx> wrote:


Also try these solo:
Barker's National Park, the whole NE side of the park is a good flat and don’t discount the edge between the beach and the eelgrass further west.

Cay off of Seaview Road.  Huge flat, I missed my first bone there.

Jetty at the tip of the canal coming out of the Blue Tip Golf Course.  I hit some jacks and a snook in there.  The canal has barracuda and tarpon in it.
Also if you do deep-sea fishing/trolling, there are tunas, wahoos, etc. just off of the huge barrier reef.  I caught a boat out of Morgan’s Harbour.
Morgan's Harbour, West Bay, Cayman Islands.



90% of the time I had on a creature-style fly or a grey/white #4 clouser.  Given the number of “sprats” I saw on the island being hand-netted (and fed to the stingrays), a 3-inch chartreuse clouser would be much awesome for just about anything that is piscivorous, tarpon included.


Also go diving on the reef and hit up stingray city.  Kiss a stingray and you get 7 years of good luck, so try that before you go fishing.









Michael Smith, CISSP-ISSEP
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On Sep 9, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Miles <m...@oppidi.net> wrote:


Thanks, Michael. Davin is $275 for a half day, which I might be able to afford. I sent him an email.

Miles




On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:17:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Smith wrote:
Check out Davin's blog. http://www.fish-bones.com/about.html

Plenty of wading flats, I'll have to map recon to give you locations.  Guided is about $450/day.



Michael Smith, CISSP-ISSEP

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Miles

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Sep 12, 2014, 7:33:16 AM9/12/14
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Excellent -- thanks. I will be staying at/near Rum Point, so this is really helpful.

Miles

Bruce Mathews

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Sep 12, 2014, 2:06:15 PM9/12/14
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MIles,
If you are in the Rum Point vicinity then that probably means the Kiabo area.  There are quite a few canals in that area.  The best area in that part of the island is the mangrove areas in the bay to the east side of the bay.  There is a public area at the end of Water Cay Rd ( Water Cay Beach) where you could launch but straight south and to the east is the only Environmental Zone on the island and they have that posted No Fishing.  As a tourist, you don't need a fishing license for rod and reel catch and release while wading from shore - I am not sure about floating around in a 'Yak - you should research that.  The license regs in the referenced site say catch and release is ok.  I have had a marine resources person stop on the side of the road and watch me release a fish before they rode on.



 
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On Friday, September 12, 2014 7:33 AM, Miles <m...@oppidi.net> wrote:


Excellent -- thanks. I will be staying at/near Rum Point, so this is really helpful.

Miles

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Bruce Mathews

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Sep 12, 2014, 2:55:00 PM9/12/14
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Miles,
 Two other points I would like to emphasize:

1- Best I have been able to determine there are NO fly fishing shops and no flies available for sale on the Island.  The bones don't seem too picky and the cuda will shred any fly you have (or bite it off).  Take some knotable wire and/or 40# fluro for bite tippets.

2- And this may be big.  When flying down the US will let you put your rods in the overhead.  When returning (on the same US carrier) the Brits Will NOT let you carry your rod on.  It must be checked.  Plan on a checked bag with your rods in it on return.  I was unable to talk them into an exception. 
 
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