4MR at 4am fishing report

[sam Hauser]

My brother and I decided to fish the outgoing tide at four mile
run this morning around 4am. For me it was mostly a morning of practice
casting my 6wt, only landing one small bass. My brother on the other hand
had one of the best fishing days of his life. He caught a fat goldfish on
his second cast and another silver goldfish about three casts later then
proceeded to hammer the bass and crappie ending with about an 8-9 pound
behemoth off the power poles. My first time there in the dark but it is
apparently magical

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[Don Rose]

Wow! Nice fish.

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[bill suworoff]

What Fly for the carp?

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[Sam Hauser]

all of them were caught on a chartreuse over white clouser.... #4 I believe?

[John Bilotta]

That's great.
John


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[Aaron O]

Hey Sam and Dan,

 

 Great looking fish.  Fishing at 4AM was in the middle of the outgoing tide, is that correct?  What kind of retrieve were you using on the clousers?  I was thinking about going there tomorrow afternoon but now you have me thinking about the morning instead.  If you guys feel like going out again tomorrow morning, let me know.

 

Aaron (we met at the beer tie) O

 

 

[Sam Hauser]

Aaron,
      Yes it was right as the tide was going out. It was a tough wade since it was muddy and it was a higher than usual low tide. Also it was obviously pretty dark, definitely impossible without a strong headlamp. We used a Slow jerky retrieve with pauses on the clousers. Danny had to go out of town after we got back but im considering hitting it in the early morning again with my girlfriend. Im not sure yet though, getting up at 3am to do that this morning took it out of me.

 

 

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[Matthew Longley]

Good to know you had such good luck on a chartreuse/white clouser--when I was there at night I kept to dark patterns, but will reconsider that next time.

Do they shut off the perimeter lights that late?  I fished from 8:30 to 10:30, and other than when tying on, I didn't need a torch or headlamp once, there was so much ambient light.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:50:15 AM UTC-5, Sam Hauser wrote:

Aaron,
      Yes it was right as the tide was going out. It was a tough wade since it was muddy and it was a higher than usual low tide. Also it was obviously pretty dark, definitely impossible without a strong headlamp. We used a Slow jerky retrieve with pauses on the clousers. Danny had to go out of town after we got back but im considering hitting it in the early morning again with my girlfriend. Im not sure yet though, getting up at 3am to do that this morning took it out of me.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Aaron O <aa...@jorgeinc.com> wrote:

Hey Sam and Dan,

 

 Great looking fish.  Fishing at 4AM was in the middle of the outgoing tide, is that correct?  What kind of retrieve were you using on the clousers?  I was thinking about going there tomorrow afternoon but now you have me thinking about the morning instead.  If you guys feel like going out again tomorrow morning, let me know.

 

Aaron (we met at the beer tie) O

 

 

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[Sam Hauser]

the lights were still on and there was a decent amount of ambient light. but were you wading that night? I could see above the water fine but I couldn't see into the water without my headlamp and didn't want to wade right into a submerged log or one of those lovely 4mr shopping carts

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[Matthew Longley]

Hahahaha I was wading--I was apparently also quite lucky, didn't run into anything.  My headlight is pretty weak (need a new one), so probably wouldn't have been able to see into the water regardless.

Was there a lot of surface activity while you were there?  I heard and saw a lot of big fish jumping as the tide was going out, to the point that I'm considering bringing a popper next time I get out there at night.  Something loud and attention-getting.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 11:10:47 AM UTC-5, Sam Hauser wrote:

the lights were still on and there was a decent amount of ambient light. but were you wading that night? I could see above the water fine but I couldn't see into the water without my headlamp and didn't want to wade right into a submerged log or one of those lovely 4mr shopping carts

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Matthew Longley <matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good to know you had such good luck on a chartreuse/white clouser--when I was there at night I kept to dark patterns, but will reconsider that next time.

Do they shut off the perimeter lights that late?  I fished from 8:30 to 10:30, and other than when tying on, I didn't need a torch or headlamp once, there was so much ambient light.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 10:50:15 AM UTC-5, Sam Hauser wrote:

Aaron,
      Yes it was right as the tide was going out. It was a tough wade since it was muddy and it was a higher than usual low tide. Also it was obviously pretty dark, definitely impossible without a strong headlamp. We used a Slow jerky retrieve with pauses on the clousers. Danny had to go out of town after we got back but im considering hitting it in the early morning again with my girlfriend. Im not sure yet though, getting up at 3am to do that this morning took it out of me.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Aaron O <aa...@jorgeinc.com> wrote:

Hey Sam and Dan,

 

 Great looking fish.  Fishing at 4AM was in the middle of the outgoing tide, is that correct?  What kind of retrieve were you using on the clousers?  I was thinking about going there tomorrow afternoon but now you have me thinking about the morning instead.  If you guys feel like going out again tomorrow morning, let me know.

 

Aaron (we met at the beer tie) O

 

 

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[Sam Hauser]

There was a ridiculous amount of surface activity. Mostly carp Id say but I saw a bass or two sail out of the water. I tried a gurgle fly for a little while but after watching Danny crush them so hard on a clouser I had to switch. I imagine something a bit louder than the gurgle fly would work better though. I really wanted to try a popper but i didn't have one on me. i will definitely bring one next time

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[Aaron O]

Poppers and gurglers at night? is that common?  I haven't done much fishing at night but I guessed that most of the fishing was streamers.  What about nymphs?

 

[Matthew Longley]

Would be interested in what others think, but with nymphs its a lot harder to cover water at night, and somewhere open like 4MR you'll need to cover a lot of water as there aren't many obvious holding areas.

I know that in salt, poppers and gurglers are go-to flies at night, especially for stripers in the surf.  Figures it would translate.  The key is that you're increasing the exposure of the fly to fish through sound and moving water.

[Jeffrey Silvan]

One thing to keep in mind when fishing topwater at night is black tends to be the most visible color (to the fish). It seems counter intuitive, but it works.

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[Matthew Longley]

Good point Jeff.  It actually makes sense when you think that the background from the fish's perspective is the sky, which holds a whole lot more light than the water.  So black makes a really defined silhouette.  That was my rationale for throwing dark streamers when I was out there, but not sure how deep in the water column that holds true.

[Andrew Chaney]

That has been my experience as well. I have used black woolly buggers to devastating effect at night. 

On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:39:32 PM UTC-5, Matthew Longley wrote:

Good point Jeff.  It actually makes sense when you think that the background from the fish's perspective is the sky, which holds a whole lot more light than the water.  So black makes a really defined silhouette.  That was my rationale for throwing dark streamers when I was out there, but not sure how deep in the water column that holds true.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:

One thing to keep in mind when fishing topwater at night is black tends to be the most visible color (to the fish). It seems counter intuitive, but it works.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Matthew Longley <matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:

Would be interested in what others think, but with nymphs its a lot harder to cover water at night, and somewhere open like 4MR you'll need to cover a lot of water as there aren't many obvious holding areas.

I know that in salt, poppers and gurglers are go-to flies at night, especially for stripers in the surf.  Figures it would translate.  The key is that you're increasing the exposure of the fly to fish through sound and moving water.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:13:09 PM UTC-5, Aaron O wrote:

Poppers and gurglers at night? is that common?  I haven't done much fishing at night but I guessed that most of the fishing was streamers.  What about nymphs?

 

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[TurbineBlade]

Nice fish guys!  I'm totally jealous of the goldfish!

 

Gene

[TurbineBlade]

Whoa - holy sh*t!  I missed the bass on first look.  The biggest bass I've caught isn't 1/4 that size.  

BTW - you guys are "the brothers" to me for ease of reference.  Hopefully you're cool with that ;).  Kind of like the black keys album.  

[Eric Y.]

I was fishing at 4MR this afternoon and a fellow on a bike was talking to me as I was gearing up in the grass. He said when he was riding on the bridge to work this morning (around 5 AM) when he saw two guys fishing with "headlights" on. He said he stopped to watch and saw one hook "a big boy" but was on the bridge and couldn't see too well just heard all the splashing. 

Just letting you know that you've got a fan. 

[Matthew Longley]

Just got back from 4MR, was low tide but the only time I could get out.  Didn't realize how low tide could get...  You could walk across 4MR without stepping in more than 2 feet of water.  Most of it was mud flats.  Was kind of cool to see the bottom structure though (or lack thereof).  Didn't see any of the legendary 4MR shopping carts.

[TurbineBlade]

I didn't check, but was the wind NW today?  If so, that would explain the lack of water.  

Gene

[Vic Velasco]

If you walk further upstream (away from the bridges), you'll eventually come up to a feeder creek that drains from the South bank (nearest the ballfield).  There are definitely shopping carts in that area.  And they stick out during high tide.  

I went yesterday afternoon during the falling tide - there were 3 others out - one fishing from the North Bank targeting the middle power pole island.  I couldn't tell for sure, but it didn't seem like anyone was catching.

I can't wait for Spring...