Help with fluid indetification

[Phil]

We have uncovered ununderground tank in an old powerhouse that has a fluid similar to but not diesel.
Where do we send a sample to for identification?

Phil

[Alison Wain]

What city/region are you in Phil?

Alison

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We have uncovered ununderground tank in an old powerhouse that has a fluid similar to but not diesel.
Where do we send a sample to for identification?

Phil

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[Tony Brassil]

Hi Phil,

Not a recommendation but this company has three offices in Sydney:

http://www.intertek.com/petroleum/testing/


Looking at the addresses of this company, they appear to be co-located with the refineries.
I dare say that both Shell and Caltex have the capability to do so also.

"similar to but not diesel" in a former powerhouse.... probably 'fuel oil', a common fuel for big diesel engines.
Wikipedia has a decent section on "Fuel Oil", explaining the different grades.
T

Phil

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[Iain]

Phil,

there are labs that are specialist in this and you should send it to one of them because it could be dangerous to health. Liquids in Power Stations ring a few alarm bells.  I have rung one of my contacts to find out what one might be best and hopefully they will call back soon,

Iain

[Iain]

Phil,

I have talked to a former colleague who is a specialist in contaminated sites. He thinks (stress thinks) that this is likely to be either fuel or a waste product possibly a solvent. You need to contact an environmental laboratory such as ALS or Amdel. You will need to full discuss with them what your requirements are and what you think you might be dealing with as this will determine how the sample should be collected and analysed.

I have encountered strange things in tanks and drums and you really need to exercise caution in dealing with unidentified liquids because of a traditional casual approach to some quite nasty chemicals and of course unscrupulous dumping.

Please feel free to give me a call if you need any advice Phi and I can put you in contact with my colleague.

Cheers

Iain

[John Pickard]

Hi Phil,

Perhaps a bit late but ...

Be careful with any fluids from power stations. I have a memory that various PCBs were used in transformers as part of the cooling systems. It's probably unlikely that any largeish tank would be full of PCBs, but ...

John

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