Broken Hill to be listed on the National Heritage list.

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Iain Stuart

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Jan 19, 2015, 5:16:24 PM1/19/15
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The ABC Rep[orts that “After a 10-year push, Broken Hill in New South Wales is poised to become the first whole Australian city to be added to the country's National Heritage List”.

 

Well done to all involved in this listing it is well deserved as it meets most of the criteria at a very high level. Those who attended the ICOMOS and TICCIH Conference there were impressed with the heritage values of the place.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

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John Gibson

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Jan 20, 2015, 5:36:42 PM1/20/15
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Hi Iain,

 

On the one hand we have a whole city listed Nationally, and yet we cannot even save one building from the industrial enterprise that took ore from the ground and produced useful items.

 

It seems to me that it is a tragedy to lose all remnants of the steelworks from our heritage portfolio, but then developers seem to have such a strangle hold on every square mm of earth in the Hunter.

 

Their greed is just beyond belief.

 

Regards, John.

 





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Iain Stuart

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Jan 20, 2015, 5:50:21 PM1/20/15
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I agree John,

 

At the time the National Trust was very concerned that they were far too keen to demolish everything for a never to be built container terminal (later the site of Tinklers coal terminal). Only the minimal recording was done. The Trust proposed SHR listing which was rejected out of hand – perhaps because Macquarie didn’t build it.  

 

Ironically we have been involved in tendering for work on the site over the years (unsuccessfully) and the various powers that be have been very concerned to protect the industrial  archaeological values of the site.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

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Jan 21, 2015, 3:26:25 PM1/21/15
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Hello,

I agree entirely.

What's your take on the purpose behind these mega-listings?

Someone's listed the whole of the Kemberley coast or something as heritage - but so what - when they are still sitting for years doing nothing with my heritage nomation of dinosaur footprints near Broome (see in                                           for photos of what they look like) and appear to have done absolutely nothing to progress that.

That is just one little very specific site, a small distance south of Broome, very easy to process.    And even if those big circles were not dinosaur footprints (I think they are) then the very fact that masses of tourists are taken there and told they are dinosaur footprints would still make the place at least of LOCAL heritage significance as a major fraud site :-)

So one way or another it is worth at least a simple heritage listing.

Another case has been in trying to get Jenolan Caves listed as State and Nationally significant.

That too drags .... and is possibly (but again I am not sure) slowly progressing to get on the National list (necessary after they scrapped/delegislated/mothballed the National Estate listing where it already was) but stalled at NSW State listing [where the RESERVE but not the caves is State-level recognised].   What blocked it there was they said it's already listed/protected too because of the BLUE MOUNTAINS heritage listing.

That's a 'world heritage' listing.

So if a world heritage listing only stalls/prevents specific site listings because it lets Heritage Office say 'oh its already listed/covered' it seems an unsatisfactory state of affairs to me.

Or in other works the MEGA listings may be sometimes actually proving counter-productive as in above examples - because they may provide a very ready shield or excuse for doing nothing.

Now this will probably go through to TICCIH in Oz .. but I doubt it would get through on the HA discussion list.

 

Cheers,

 

John 

 

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Hi Iain,

 

On the one hand we have a whole city listed Nationally, and yet we cannot even save one building from the industrial enterprise that took ore from the ground and produced useful items.

 

It seems to me that it is a tragedy to lose all remnants of the steelworks from our heritage portfolio, but then developers seem to have such a strangle hold on every square mm of earth in the Hunter.

 

Their greed is just beyond belief.

 

Regards, John.

 

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Subject: Broken Hill to be listed on the National Heritage list.

 

The ABC Rep[orts that “After a 10-year push, Broken Hill in New South Wales is poised to become the first whole Australian city to be added to the country's National Heritage List”.

 

Well done to all involved in this listing it is well deserved as it meets most of the criteria at a very high level. Those who attended the ICOMOS and TICCIH Conference there were impressed with the heritage values of the place.

 

Cheers

 

Dr Iain Stuart

 

JCIS Consultants

P.O. Box 2397

Burwood North

NSW 2134

Australia

 

(02) 97010191

Iain_...@optusnet.com.au

 




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