Negative Vibes and RETE commands

[DaveTaylor]

Hi there,
I've got the Webmail 1.3.8 and Hotmail 1.2.29b4 extensions loaded with
Thunderbird 3.0.6 on Windows 7 64 bit.
Was working fine up until 27th July when all of a sudden I started
getting the following messages:
"The RETR command did not succeed. Error retrieving a message. Mail
server 127.0.0.1 responded: negative vibes from @hotmail.com"
I have two hotmail.com accounts and the same thing happens with both.
I have turned on the "go straight to my inbox option" in Hotmail -
nothing happens
I have tried on one account to select the "Download unread emails
only" option. Thunderbird then reports that there are no new messages
on the server.

Any suggestions greatfully welcomed.

Dave

[Screemer]

Hi there,

this is getting annoying..
!!! DON'T BLAMING creator of these extensions.. !!!

Just installed hotmail-1-2-29b13 and have Webmail 1.3.8 in my
thunderbird 3.1.2
Still negative vibes..

What the heck did Microsoft do to their service..:(
I have no splashes to acknowledge or anything and I go straight to my
inbox..

Does it work for anyone using webmail and hotmail extensions?
Thanks for your GREAT work Webmail Author..:)

[Chris Clifton]

Try going to the Hotmail website, then while you have an email open.
Click on "Actions" (top right of message pane), then select "View
message source". This should bring up a page of text, starting with all
the message headers, then the message itself, followed by the code for
any attachments. When I do this in Firefox or Google Chrome, I get a
page full of symbols, Internet Explorer behaves differently and says it
can't find the page. My belief is that the extension uses this view
message source feature to extract all the information it needs to
produce a POP version of the email to pass on to Thunderbird. If
Microsoft have broken the view message source feature, then the
extension cannot work.
I don't use the Hotmail extension myself, the free POP service from
Hotmail does all that I want.

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[Screemer]

You are so correct, in firefox I get this:
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In internet explorer I get this:
Unable to download GetMessageSource.aspx from
by121w.bay121.mail.live.com

Unable to open this internet site. The requested site is either
unavailable or cannot be found.
Please try again later.

[Chris Clifton]

It appears that everyone who is currently having problems with the
Hotmail extension is suffering from the same server fault. This is a
fault with Hotmail, not the extension. Other extensions that download
Hotmail into Thunderbird may work in a different way, e.g. copying and
pasting the text off the screen into what is in effect a new email.
However the only way to get the complete mail into Thunderbird is to
work from the source code, do it any other way and you lose vital
information contained in the source code.

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[Screemer]

So, next question is.. How to fix it?
Any use mailing hotmail/Micro$oft about it?

[Screemer]

So, next question is.. How to fix it?
Any use mailing hotmail/Micro$oft about it?

On Aug 16, 12:45 pm, Chris Clifton <gro...@talktalk.net> wrote:

[Chris Clifton]

Maybe Microsoft would look into it? I shouldn't mention Thunderbird and
webmail extensions if you do contact them. Microsoft don't care whether
these Thunderbird extensions work or not, if anything they would prefer
them not to work. Rather say that you need to see the full source code
of your mails for some reason. Spam reporting would be a possible
reason, systems like Spam Cop need the full headers and source code of
an email to identify the true source.

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[Screemer]

I downloaded the latest webmail v1.3.9 I think and hotmail 1.2.9
extensions..
I am still unable to read my mail or even log in..

I get htese messages in the error console..
login.live.com : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555

Hotmail-SR-BETA: emailOnloadHandler : Exception : TypeError.
Error message: aTemp[1] is undefined
1113

And this error (not sure it's related to hotmail extension though)
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure
code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)
[nsIStringBundle.GetStringFromName]" nsresult: "0x80004005
(NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: XStringBundle ::
getString :: line 17" data: no]

Don't know if this helps pinning down why it works for some and not
for others..:)

[alanrf]

I think the simple answer for you and the subset of other Hotmail
users experiencing this problem (sorry to say) is that until
Microsoft/Hotmail gives you a proper response from the "View Message
Source" option that the Webmail Author cannot provide you with a
solution.

[KE4AVB]

Alan,

Are you sure that you are using the new sites? You may have not been
converted yet. My screen doesn't have the Actions button anymore.

I try the view message source here and it works fine. The only time I
page of code symbols is with attachments. I have download the
attachments and they download as zip files; hence, the code symbols on
my message source view is of a compressed file. Of I would need to
extract the file(s) for viewing.

When I enter www.hotmail.com, the website that I get log into is:
http://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=11&ct=1282132577&rver=6.0.5285.0&wp=MBI&wreply=http:%2F%2Fmail.live.com%2Fdefault.aspx&lc=1033&id=64855&mkt=en-us

Your website is probably different then this. I come to this
conclusion based on the following: Click on "Actions" (top right of

message pane), then select "View

message source". from your previous post. On the site I use I only
have a Reply Button with a Down Arrow to the right of it which takes
me to the message options where I can view the options including the
the message view.

I do have problems with the extension too.
1. It does not co-operate with my AVG anti-virus software. I am unable
to download messages unless the AVG resident shield is off.
2.It does not send messages correctly unless the AVG is again off.
3.The extension is timing out when downloading over 20 megs. This
understandable but crashing because of the AVG shouldn't be a problem.

For now I forwarding all of my Hotmail to my AOL account which wasn't
even possible with the older MS Hotmail site version.

Eugene

[Screemer]

I did mail them, don't expect an answer though.:(
Sent in through the feedback link
http://g.live.com/0ELHP_MEREN/283??WLXID=3dfa4637-b0b4-461e-8c15-bf6b54d7b86a&RID=02ac6e22424&TID=1282137781337&lid=

Also posted on their forums, here:
http://windowslivehelp.com/post.aspx?postid=c45e4d06-dbad-425b-98b9-c8053dda25a0

To respond to KE4AVB
I don't know if mine is new or old.. But at the right hand side I also
have the Reply with a down arrow, if I click the down arrow I can
chose View Source a bit down the menu.

On Aug 18, 2:14 pm, KE4AVB <ke4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Are you sure that you are using the new sites? You may have not been
> converted yet. My screen doesn't have the Actions button anymore.
>
> I try the view message source here and it works fine. The only time I
> page of code symbols is with attachments. I have download the
> attachments and they download as zip files; hence, the code symbols on
> my message source view is of a compressed file. Of I would need to
> extract the file(s) for viewing.
>

> When I enterwww.hotmail.com, the website that I get log into is:http://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1.0&rpsnv=11&ct=1282132577&...

[Ice Thijs]

Hi all,

I found a work around! I can get my new emails again!

The solution is on this page:
https://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=81cbf352-9083-4f9b-85ba-6d83448d4f62

If you apply the solution mentioned for Firefox to Thunderbird, the
Hotmail extension works again!

Kind regards,
Ice Thijs

On 18 aug, 15:48, Screemer <screem...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did mail them, don't expect an answer though.:(

> Sent in through the feedback linkhttp://g.live.com/0ELHP_MEREN/283??WLXID=3dfa4637-b0b4-461e-8c15-bf6b...
>
> Also posted on their forums, here:http://windowslivehelp.com/post.aspx?postid=c45e4d06-dbad-425b-98b9-c...

[alanrf]

Ice Thijs

to help others can you be more precise about what exact steps you took
that resolved the problem in Thunderbird?

The "about config" entry mentioned for Firefox does not exist by
default in Thunderbird (at least not in the latest version of
Thunderbird).

I cannot try to reproduce this solution since it has never been an
issue for any of my Hotmail accounts.

Many thanks.

On Aug 21, 12:55 pm, Ice Thijs <iceth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I found a work around! I can get my new emails again!
>

> The solution is on this page:https://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=81cbf352-9083-4f9b-8...

[woest85]

Brilliant! Works like a charm

For alanrf, http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config for getting you to
the about:config in thunderbird (it does exist by default) :)

On Aug 21, 9:55 pm, Ice Thijs <iceth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I found a work around! I can get my new emails again!
>

> The solution is on this page:https://windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx?threadid=81cbf352-9083-4f9b-8...

[Chris Clifton]

There is a warning that, "You probably don't want to leave those
settings permanently, they can reduce performance." when you change the
setting in Firefox. They're right! It became practically unusable and
wouldn't let me log into Hotmail at all and displayed other web pages
rather strangely. Fortunately it's easy to reset.

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[Ice Thijs]

Hi all,

For alanrf, as woest85 points out: the setting can be changed from
Thunderbird. I'm using the latest version of Thunderbird (at the time
of this writing, 3.1.2 (dutch)) and Webmail extensions (1.3.9 for the
Webmail extension, 1.2.29 for the Hotmail extension).

- In Thunderbird, in the Help menu click "About: Config"
- You may receive a warning about changing the configuration, confirm
that you will be careful
- In the dialog that appears, scroll down to "network.http.accept-
encoding" (or type the first characters in the filter)
- Double click on the setting
- Change the value from "gzip,deflate" to "deflate" (excluding quotes)
- Click Ok and close the dialog

Thunderbird may require a restart for the change to take effect, but
then you should be able to get your Hotmail emails again.

To all, I consider this a work around until the error at the Microsoft
servers is fixed by Microsoft (if ever ...).

Kind regards,
Ice Thijs

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[woest85]

BTW, how did you actually figure that one out ice thijs?

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[Ice Thijs]

Hi woest85,

By reading this thread, it became apparent that the cause of the
problem is Microsoft breaking the View Message Source option in
Hotmail. So I tried that in both Firefox and IE; IE presented me with
an error that GetMessageSource.aspx could not be downloaded. When I
did a search in Google on "GetMessageSource.aspx" I found the thread
at windowslivehelp.com I referred to, and I simply tried if the work
around for Firefox applied to Thunderbird as well (since they both use
the Gecko engine). And it worked!

Kind regards,
Ice Thijs

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[alanrf]

Ice Thijs

my apologies - I had left my 'about config" sorted by other than entry
name. I should have used the filter.

Anyway - at least the discussion should help anyone who wants to
change the setting.

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[Screemer]

The tip by Ice Thijs actually worked.. I am amazed and forever great
full.
I am able to read my mail in Thunderbird again..
I guess " UNTIL MICRO$OFT SCREWS SOMETHING UP AGAIN "

I also updated my post on their forum with this information for others
to find..

Thank you Ice Thijs and developer of webmail extension and webmail
hotmail extension...

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[kevin551]

The tip by Ice Thijs worked for me too. (change "gzip,deflate" to
"deflate" )

[Vincent]

Thanks Ice Thijs. It worked also for me!

[meezoid]

works for me too - thanks :)

[Helo World]

This works for me as well, but on 3.1.4 Windows (UK) the way to do it
is different to that given by Ice Thijs.
MAC is very similar in latest version.

Use Tools> Options /Advanced\ [Config Editor...]
Accept that "Here be dragons!" with [I'll be careful, I promise!]
use the Filter to find -
| network.http.accept-encoding |
and then change the Value | gzip, deflate | to just | deflate | (that
is delete the gzip,)
Close the dialogue box and [OK] the Options Window
Try to [ v Get Mail] and you should be in business.

Thanks again to Ice Thjis for the core change.

KEY
> Click on Menu Item > and Chose Sub Menu item
/Tab\
[Button]
| Free text box |