Thunderbird notification daemon

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Angelina

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:12:12 PM7/10/09
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Hi!
Is there any way to enable some sort of "Thunderbird daemon"? I'm
talking about a little icon to lay in the notification area, and look
for new e-mail frequently.
I have to start Thunderbird to check for new e-mails, but I want it to
run at startup, and frequently check for e-mails without the main
window being open. Now I have to keep Thunderbird open (minimized) if
I want it to check for new e-mails automatically. As soon as I close
it, I get no notification about new e-mails.

Does anyone know?
Thanks!

Blues Renegade

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Jul 10, 2009, 7:24:57 PM7/10/09
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Angelina,

What your asking for is already built-in to Thunderbird.

1. Run Thunderbird

2. Select the Edit menu, Account Settings..., select Server Settings and
the rest is self-explanatory.

Depending on your operating system and Desktop Environment, there are
notification programs available.

What I do is leave TB running and minimize it. With TB running and the
above mentioned server settings, you have your solution. ;)

John

Chris Clifton

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Jul 11, 2009, 2:33:21 AM7/11/09
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I was puzzled about the question. What Angelina seems to be asking for
is a notification program that will alert her to new messages without
running Thunderbird. Why? As you say, Thunderbird can run minimized, and
automatically check for new mails at any interval you specify. When a
new mail arrives a chime sounds and an envelope icon appears in the
notification area of the system tray (Windows, I don't know what Mac or
Linux systems do).What more could a separate program or daemon do? What
would the user gain by using such a daemon?
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Blues Renegade

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Jul 11, 2009, 8:51:57 AM7/11/09
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Chris,

There are notification programs/services for GNOME and KDE desktop environments running under MIT's X server and the Linux kernel.

Even on an old Pentium III machine w/only 386 MB of RAM--thanks to Linux--I'm able to run TB, Firefox, OpenOffice, and anything else I want... all at the same time, with very good performance.

I have 3 OSes on that PC spread over 2-80GB Western Digital hard drives: 1) CentOS 4.6 (CentOS is an open source version of Red Hat Advanced Enterprise Server); 2) Windows 98; and 3) Windows XP Professional (upgraded from Windows 2000 Professional).

The PC I'm running TB on right now is a Pentium 4 w/1-GB RAM, 1-80 GB SATA HD, and I'm running Ubuntu Desktop 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope). This is my LAMP server for development work.

John

Chris Clifton

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Jul 11, 2009, 9:20:01 AM7/11/09
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More or less what I thought. Such a service couldn't be an extension or
Add-on for Thunderbird, if it was it could only run when Thunderbird was
already running. Which would defeat the object of knowing when email
arrived in your inbox without having a full blown email client running.
Also I'd guess that if such a service was to be able to poll web mail
services as well as regular POP servers, it would have to behave like
the web mail extensions and emulate a browser session to log in and
retrieve the inbox information. It would thus be subject to all the
problems that the web mail extensions suffer whenever the service
provider changes the web pages.
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Angelina

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Jul 11, 2009, 7:12:18 PM7/11/09
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John, Chris

I'm sorry i didn't explain well my question, I just want to make TB
appear in the systray (not in the task bar) and notify me for new
mails just like Windows live messenger do when you get new mail. Is
that possible??

Chris Clifton

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Jul 12, 2009, 3:09:33 AM7/12/09
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I don't know. I suspect it would be something for the main Thunderbird
developers to look at rather than an extension to Thunderbird. I know
the sort of thing you mean, there are several icons down there by the
clock on my system, and if I plug my MP3 player and phone into USB ports
there will be two more. Personally I don't like programs that always
load when Windows starts, "just in case you need it". I usually
deactivate this feature and start the program from the start menu when I
need it.
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Blues Renegade

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Jul 12, 2009, 4:44:52 AM7/12/09
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Angelina,

Can we assume you're running Windows XP?

If so, the answer is Yes and No. Yes, Windows XP will notify you of new mail to whatever account is set as the Default account in TB. In fact, it shows you at the login screen as well as in the system tray. It requires you to set TB as your default mail program in Windows.

No, I don't know of any way to run TB in the system tray, and I haven't missed that "feature." ;)

How to change your default programs and enable or remove access to Microsoft Windows and non-Microsoft programs
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/332003

New "Set Program Access and Defaults" Start Menu Icon and Help Content Are Available for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/820291


(Read this last paragraph CAREFULLY!!)

I think if you have your password "remembered" by TB, then Windows is able to activate a "silent" login to check for new mail. My guess is that MS knows what TB command line switches to use, if Windows is in fact doing as I think. I leave TB running almost all the time, so I haven't paid close attention to the state of TB when the notification is updated.

Hope that helps,

John
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