Great post: Exposing IHI Mushafiq Sultan

[GOD IS GREAT. Rest, I don't know]

I have seen your debate with terrorist Mushafiq Sultan

I must appreciate your attempt.

That's excellent Sir

That was exactly what I wanted someone to do. Exposing terrorists is biggest service that can be done for humanity. We want more such analysis. More and more exposing is supposed to come in future.

That's indeed interesting. When a Muslim can't reply to NON Muslim by logic, he gets into insulting.That is what he calls following his religion. For a Muslim, it is same as service to Allah by insulting NON Muslims. 

What I would request you is to expose him further. You have done a great job but just don't leave him. Muslims have the tendency to assume that others have lost it, if others don't fight till the end. As far as Mushafiq Shaitan is concerned, he won't learn. He would try to report / block you. So, try putting some rebuttals of his so called Islam either here OR on other blogs. The best way to do so is to use Islamic history and expose his stupid tactics. Muslims consider Arabs to be the noble men and this is self refuted lie. If indeed Arabians were noble men, why has Egypt, Yemen, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, PAK etc. became terrorist lands? Bcoz they only know how to distort the history.

As far as Ali Sina debunking is concerned, tell him to directly talk with Ali Sina and convert him back to Islam. Unless, Ali Sina converts back, it is stupidity to assume that Ali Sina is debunked. Then wait for what he says. He would add up shooting his own foot only. Well, I would put up this link on Agniveer / Satyagni to show them who is this Mushafiq, human body but terrorist in desguise. 

All those who support Islam are bound to doom. They have Christian enemies, they have Jew enemies, they have Hindu enemies, they have ex - muslim and fellow muslim enemies. Wherever a muslim goes, he generates only enemies. 

Regarding Saffron terrorists, those are Hindus acting as terrorists. This is what Ali Sina says about them. 

Mail from Zameer Ahmed Jumlana

I had sent this complaint to police as an Indian National not as a muslim only. You have nude paintings of Prophet. Noted Painter M.F. Hussain is living in exile due to his condemnable naked paintings of Hindu God & Goddesses. And criminal cases are pending against him all over India for hurting the sentiments of Hindu Community.

Ali Sina humbly replied

Prosecuting or threatening an artist for disrespecting someone’s belief is sickening.  However, let us be fair. Hindus were not originally violent and intolerant. Generally speaking they still are the most tolerant people.  If you see a group of Hindus are becoming radicalized it is because they are reacting to Islamic aggression.  The violence and the intolerance that you see in some Hindus is not part of their religious teaching, it is their reaction to Islamic violence.  In a sense, they are inspired by the violence of Islam. You can call them “Muslim Hindus” or “Islamized Hindus.” ... So it is shortsighted to blame Hinduism for denying freedom of speech and expression to a Muslim painter in India. This intolerance is not inspired by Hinduism. What you see is the reflection of the intolerance of Islam.  It is ironic that despite their claim of hating Islam, Hindu extremists are influenced by Muhammad’s evil spirit and are indeed Muslims.  It is not their belief that makes them Islamists, but their conducts. ... I don’t believe Islam is the true religion. I believe all religions have a kernel of truth in then except Islam.  There is goodness in every religion, but there is none in Islam. I believe Islam is the most diabolic belief ever invented. It is far more dangerous than Nazism.  Islam is evil. It is sheer darkness. It is a curse on humanity. If I believed in God and his divine comedy I would have said Islam is the instrument of Satan to destroy mankind, but since I am a rationalist, I believe Muhammad was a pathological narcissist.  That man was insane. I invite you to read my book and evaluate my evidence.  You be the judge.

See this: http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/debates/a-formal-complaint-against-ffi/

A must read analysis by a scholar (Ali Sina). See all 3 pages to view how the Zumlana's mind changed suddenly.

Saffron terrorists are nothing but those who use Islamic actions against Muslims. They replace believer with NON Muslims and unbeliever with Muslims in Quran and follow the same. In short, use TIT FOR TAT tactics. That's why Makka - hyderabad and Samjhota Express blasts. But, the fact is that was inevitable since Muslims deserve the same. If Muslims promise to give up falsehood and evil, Saffron terrorists will disappear. Let GOD finalize when will that miracle happen.

------++++++ FALLACY WITH VIEWS OF MIRZA GHULAM AHMED ------++++++

The founder of Ahmediyya sect of Islam claims to be a supporter of humanity. He wanted to bring unity among Hindus and Muslim. After all, he too was an Indian. He does so by even respecting Hindu GODs as former prophets and wants peace to be established.

I don't find any fallacy in his revelations nor do I find any Ahmediyya Muslim who is violent and terrorist. In fact, Ahmediyyas don't advocate terrorism and even Ali Sina can't refute this. I mailed him asking truth of Ahmediyya sect. He replied that they are most peaceful and don't advocate terrorism however, they may not be true as they love Mohammed. All those who support Mohammed are false. Same rule applies to Bahai and Sikhs as well.

The fallacy which I find is in his mission. - PEACE BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM. That's not even imaginable. Quranic Allah did many miracles - he made moon split and donkey fly. The least a man can imagine. Even that Allah can't manage to commit miracle of establishing peace between Hindu and Muslim in past 14 centuries. That outcome which even GOD can not do, how will a human do that? If GOD knew how to do that, he would have done that before.

Expecting peace between a Muslim and a non muslim is same as expecting peace between wolf and lamb. There is a proverb in Hindi::: घोडा यदि घास से मित्रता करेगा तो खाएगा क्या? I would just re - arrange the words and declare

मुसलमान यदि गैरमुसलमान से मित्रता करेगा तो इस्लाम कैसे चलाएगा? क्योकि गैर मुसलमान से मित्रता करना तो सबसे बडा हराम है। 

That's all I would say

So, Conclusions

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Keep up the good work. Expose such terrorists in future. Keep educating as many as you can. GOD bless you.

Thanks

[Rahul Raj]

Thanks for your reply Brother,

I'll try my level best to engage Mushafiq in any formal debate with me. The problem with Mushafiq is, he resorts to insults and ad hominem instead of refuting.  As you said

 

 " As far as Ali Sina debunking is concerned, tell him to directly talk with Ali Sina and convert him back to Islam.

It is impossible for people like Mushafiq, because they already have their Mind Set that Ali Sina is debunked. They not even try to contact him, but on social networks like FB they shout from every corner of their mouth that Ali Sina is debunked. Also, it is bit difficult for Sir Sina to come on ground level to debate these Mind Washed people. So, we need to help them by showing the reality of Islam. Anyways I won't quit trying to get Mushafiq into my trap. Hope he falls..

Regards..

[GOD IS GREAT. Rest, I don't know]

You are welcome Sir

engage Mushafiq in any formal debate with me 

That is complicated process.

1. People travel on certain path
2. There are obstacles in each and every path
3. The number depends on path chosen and way you walk
4. The rule says that either you overcome the obstacles OR change your path
5. If you overcome the obstacles (That is, rightly follow your way), then you become successful
1. Overcoming means to eliminate the obstacles NOT only for you but for others too
2. Travel on your own path and show others how to do the same
3. This supports learning by doing
   
6. If you change the path (deviate from your prejudice to travel on true path), then you end up being critic
1. You criticize other paths
2. You seem to be most hated.
3. If you can manage this, you become the ideal for society
   
7. The third category is of those who just evade obstacles These are the worsts because
1. They can't get rid of their prejudice
2. They wrongly assume that all other ways are false but cannot show truth of their way
3. They experience obstacles but never manage to improve rather are always interested in their own way no matter how false it is
8. I will show this with an example
9. Suppose there were thorns on the way
   
1. The follower of rule 7
1. Does not put his feet where the thorn is
2. If a thorn pierces it, he takes it out
3. Then he moves out, evading the obstacle
2. The follower of rule 6
1. Sees that there are thorns on the path
2. Changes his path
3. Thus, establishes a new path for the same goal
3. The follower of rule 5
1. Takes the groom ( झाडु ) and clears thorns from his way
2. Puts the groom to its desired location
3. Then moves ahead after establishing the method.

Now, the example of rule 5 mentioned above is Jesus Christ

Whatever he said, he followed the same thus eliminating discrepancy condition

Happily accepted crucifixion too for apparently no sin of him

The rule 6 is shown by Swami Dayanand

A staunch idolator turned out to be biggest critic of idol worship.

Criticized every other path in search of true path

The rule 7 is exemplified by Mohammed / Muslims.

Tried criticizing other faiths but when asked how is his path true, he failed.

Totally blind follower(s)

As far as Sultan is concerned

You can formally try. If he refuses, being a Muslim, he will evade obstacles. 

The best way is to blame prophet for that. Post on your wall, insulting not only Mushafiq but also Mohamed.

Since you named website as "the false prophet"; insulting Mohamed won't be immoral for you.

Try framing a sentence as:

Mushafiq shaitan can't defend his faith

He can only insult a non muslim

That is what his prophet taught him

Mohammed = Prophet of Satan

etc. etc. etc.

(! --- NOTE: Make sure about your own safety too because Muslims are always violent)

he resorts to insults and ad hominem instead of  

Even Ali Sina agrees that debating a Muslim takes too much time and also a lot of patience is required for that. You have knowledge, that's great. Why not, you develop some patience and then fight with that evil terrorist.

It is impossible for people like Mushafiq, because they already have their Mind Set that Ali Sina is debunked. They not even try to contact him, but on social networks like FB they shout from every corner of their mouth that Ali Sina is debunked. Also, it is bit difficult for Sir Sina to come on ground level to debate these Mind Washed people. 

 

Give the same as a mail to Ali Sina. Ali Sina will manage him. Tell Ali Sina to answer Mushafiq on facebook rather than contacting him directly. He won't contact directly but can read fb articles as time permits. 

Thanks for your love towards humanity. 

 

[Anita Sharma]

When I read you blog on the terrorist Mushafiq, I found that he was not trying to debate you. I am following his page and he has previously challenged for a live debate via skype, etc. What do you say about that?

[Rj3865]

Respected Anita,

I apologize for my late reply, but I agree that he was not trying to
debate me. I have never found him(Mushafiq) debating any critics
seriously. He just try to insult and silent them using his fallacy, Ad
Hominem. I can ask him to debate Agniveer or Ali Sina, but both won't
agree as far I think. He is not a important personality in field
Islamic Dawa, so he is ignored by most of scholars and famous
critics..

Go through my new debate with Nadir Ahmed:-
http://mostintolerantreligion.com/debate-forum/nadir-ahmed-claims-another-victory/

Regards

[timothy blair]

Rahul, Rahul, Rahul. He was not avoiding any debate or insulting anybody. He was just merely bringing some questions to you so that you might think first before you say anything, anything at all. That's what the brain is there for. That's what separate us Human from Elephants, Monkeys, Cows, Pigs, etc,etc. Religion is not all about blind faith like some animal worshippers. There's got to be logic also. One simple example. How can there be two kings in the kingdom. Impossible. The kingdom will be in ruin in a matter of months. Same thing here how can there be more than one gods. The whole universe would be in chaos. Now the funny thing is how can Elephants, Monkeys, Cows, Pigs rule the universe. That is absolutely ridiculous. There is got to be One and only One super intelligent Being who created the heaven and earth. He created it, he  ruled it and he sustained it. That super intelligent being is none other than God. The Jews call him Elohim. The Muslim call him Allah. Think about that

[Rahul Raj]

Dear Timothy,

I don't think so that you read the post completely. I have clarified earlier that I am not a follower of Hinduism. So all you ad hominem is waste, but proves that you resort to logical fallicies to win debates and discussion. Only one thing left to be replied in this comment, is that you said, " The Jews call him Elohim. "

So can I follow or embrace Judaism. If no, then why??