All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

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Blue Pilgrim

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Jun 11, 2014, 2:25:20 PM6/11/14
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Extremely interesting.
I'm not sure what this "global warming is a hoax" thing in the
beginning is, since I am very confident that global warming is indeed
real and caused by man, although I know this is a popular idea,
especially among some right wing "conspioracy theorists", and yet
what he says about banking and war rings true and comports with other
things I know of -- although I should like to see it backed up in all
particulars by good research.
Still, it's sensible narrative and worth entertaining and keeping
mind as explanation for many of the events we have seen and see
now. One must sort through wheat and chaff with anything, of course.
There seems to be a great deal of wheat here, however.

About 45 minutes long.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-0BPMwgKNA
All Wars Are Bankers' Wars - FULL version


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Subject of this upload:


Written and spoken by Michael Rivero. The written version is here:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTI...

Video by Zane Henry.

You are welcome to make copies and to distribute this video freely.

But first a quote from me (PaCmAn):

Question: War - What do YOU think its all about ?

My answer: War is not about starting or ending them, and even less
about who win or who loose. War is always funded 100% on both sites
by the global banks (The IMF) with only TWO goals: Population
reduction / genocide / mass killing in order to get forward to their
main goal: WORLD DOMINATION and this is done from the very start by
making sure the IMF system is in total control over the DEBT their
war create. Controlling the DEBT of war IS the main purpose, in order
to not just control the countries but to TOTALLY take EVERYTHING over !!!

In other words: The pure purpose of a war, is the war it self !!

Blue Pilgrim

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Jun 11, 2014, 3:15:33 PM6/11/14
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Extremely interesting.
I'm not sure what this "global warming is a hoax" thing in the beginning is, since I am very confident that global warming is indeed real and caused by man, although I know this is a popular idea, especially among some right wing "conspioracy theorists", and yet what he says about banking and war ...

I guess it was some sort of mind glitch but on listening to the beginning again I don't find anything about global warming -- it's actually briefly mentioned at just before the 7 minute time mark.  I might guess Rivero is a better historian and political guy than scientist.
The article for this at http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php which is a written version of the broadcast.


The subject of private banking issuing currency is a main theme ate the American Monetary Institute web site -- http://www.monetary.org/ . This is compatible with much heard at http://neweconomicperspectives.org/ (Modern Monetary Theory) and what Michael Hudson, and others there, have talked about. 

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Video (part 1 of 2)
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l3OxMAF7Rk
The Lost Science of Money, pt. 1 - Stephen Zarlenga (FULL)  (from Gnostic Media youtube channel)
Uploaded on Feb 4, 2011

One of the factions that controls nearly every moment of our lives is hardly understood by the large majority of the population. To gain an understanding of today's topic deepens our understanding of the world and how it works and exactly what we can do to effect change when and where needed.
Our deepening investigation into the freedom of consciousness cannot go without a deeper understanding of what we all use for exchange or trade - money.
Exactly how we define the word 'money' defines our very society and affects nearly every facet of our lives. It also tells us exactly what we can expect from our political representatives. All we need is to understand the language of money.
Beginning today in this detailed two part series we begin to look into the fundamental concepts of money: What is money and how is it defined? What is the history of money? How does it tie to religion, government and private business? What is the difference between credit and money? What is FIAT money? Is there a difference between private versus nationalized banks and how they operate? And why is any of this important to YOU? And how could it possibly affect YOUR life?
Stephen Zarlenga is the founder of the American Monetary Institute (AMI) - the leading American monetary think tank for monetary history, theory and reform. An economic historian and author, Zarlenga provides us the clearest picture of how money and monetary systems work in his incredible 2002 tome The Lost Science of Money, and he's also the author of the American Monetary Act, submitted to congress by Dennis Kucinich in March of this year.
http://www.monetary.org

Listen to the entire interview at:
http://www.gnosticmedia.com/041-money...

More from Gnostic Media at:
http://www.gnosticmedia.com

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Part 2 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_2Wo0RRkQU
 Uploaded on Feb 7, 2011

This show is being released on Monday, the Solstice, December 21, 2009. My interview with Stephen Zarlenga was recorded on Dec. 15, 2009.

This is part 2 of our series with Stephen Zarlenga where we look deep into the fundamental concepts of money: What is money and how is it defined? What is the difference between money and credit? What is the history of money? How does it tie to religion, government and private business? Is nationalizing the money system socialist, and does this concept of money ignore "the libertarian issue"? What is FIAT money? Is there a difference between private versus nationalized banks and how they operate? Has there ever been a society on the gold standard that did not fall to slavery or serfdom? And why is any of this important for YOU to understand, and how could it possibly affect YOUR life?

Stephen Zarlenga is the founder of the American Monetary Institute (AMI) -- the leading American monetary think tank for monetary history, theory and reform. An economic historian and author, Zarlenga provides us the clearest picture of how money and monetary systems work in his incredible 2002 tome The Lost Science of Money, and he's also the author of the American Monetary Act, submitted to congress by Dennis Kucinich in March of this year. If you have not already read his book, it is an absolute must read.
So don't attack the messenger, instead go out and buy the book and learn for yourself exactly how and why those who promote the gold standard are lying to you.

As a prerequisite to this show, please listen to episode #41.

Gary Williams

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Jun 11, 2014, 10:24:50 PM6/11/14
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From the print version over at http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

"Of course the public school system is as subservient to the bankers' wishes to keep certain history from you, just as the corporate media is subservient to Monsanto's wishes to keep the dangers of GMOs from you, and the global warming cult's wishes to conceal from you that the Earth has actually been cooling for the last 16 years. Thus is should come as little surprise that much of the real reasons for the events of the Civil War are not well known to the average American.
When the Confederacy seceded from the United States, the bankers once again saw the opportunity for a rich harvest of debt, and offered to fund Lincoln's efforts to bring the south back into the union, but at 30% interest. Lincoln remarked that he would not free the black man by enslaving the white man to the bankers and using his authority as President, issued a new government currency, the greenback. This was a direct threat to the wealth and power of the central bankers, who quickly responded" 

Errhh... Do I need to point out that this stuff is typical, run-of-the-mill revisions of a history that if read objectively threatens to teach the neo-nazis, neo-confederates, and far-right libertarians who admirers Ayn Rands notion that the pursuit of wealth and power reflects the natural order of existence itself.
I followed links and looked for the source of many of the quotes supposedly showing how Jewish bankers were behind every war, from the W o Independence, W o 1812 on, and caused every market crash, were likely somehow implicated in every assassination of a POTUS, and not  found myself on Stormfront, or The Oath Keepers, where I found the very same people who were supporting Cliven Bundy's ability to graze his cattle on public land while assuming none of the costs associated with that activity.
I found dozens of sites where people were quoting Churchill, not Hitler, as the one intent on fighting another war with Germany. However after several complete busts (zip, nada, zero returns despite using exactly the same words that led me to 'Wingnut Row' mentioned above) with Google Scholar, my anger began to focus not on the delusional liars Dr. Altemeyer spent decades describing for the threat they represent to liberal democratic states the West is admired for creating, but over here where referrals to sites so drenched examples of the motivated reasoning studied here should be posted as case studies, and not as something they believe will further intellectual discourse on this topic....or on any other, for that matter!


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Blue Pilgrim

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Jun 12, 2014, 6:22:49 AM6/12/14
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At 02:24 6/12/2014, you wrote:
From the print version over at http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php

"Of course the public school system is as subservient to the bankers' wishes to keep certain history from you, just as the corporate media is subservient to Monsanto's wishes to keep the dangers of GMOs from you, and the global warming cult's wishes to conceal from you that the Earth has actually been cooling for the last 16 years. Thus is should come as little surprise that much of the real reasons for the events of the Civil War are not well known to the average American.
When the Confederacy seceded from the United States, the bankers once again saw the opportunity for a rich harvest of debt, and offered to fund Lincoln's efforts to bring the south back into the union, but at 30% interest. Lincoln remarked that he would not free the black man by enslaving the white man to the bankers and using his authority as President, issued a new government currency, the greenback. This was a direct threat to the wealth and power of the central bankers, who quickly responded"

Errhh... Do I need to point out that this stuff is typical, run-of-the-mill revisions of a history that if read objectively threatens to teach the neo-nazis, neo-confederates, and far-right libertarians who admirers Ayn Rands notion that the pursuit of wealth and power reflects the natural order of existence itself.
I followed links and looked for the source of many of the quotes supposedly showing how Jewish bankers were behind every war, from the W o Independence, W o 1812 on, and caused every market crash, were likely somehow implicated in every assassination of a POTUS, and not  found myself on Stormfront, or The Oath Keepers, where I found the very same people who were supporting Cliven Bundy's ability to graze his cattle on public land while assuming none of the costs associated with that activity.
I found dozens of sites where people were quoting Churchill, not Hitler, as the one intent on fighting another war with Germany. However after several complete busts (zip, nada, zero returns despite using exactly the same words that led me to 'Wingnut Row' mentioned above) with Google Scholar, my anger began to focus not on the delusional liars Dr. Altemeyer spent decades describing for the threat they represent to liberal democratic states the West is admired for creating, but over here where referrals to sites so drenched examples of the motivated reasoning studied here should be posted as case studies, and not as something they believe will further intellectual discourse on this topic....or on any other, for that matter!

All of this learning 'what really happened' is quite difficult, and often resemble blind men looking at elephants, as in the old story -- different perspectives and narratives, none of which is what that elephant 'really' looks like.  There is problem hinted on by confirmation bias that goes beyond simple data collection and explanation in science, but extends everywhere, and even within one's own mind. Competing narratives may have equal truth to them because none of them are 'true' but are like extracting radio stations from a multiplexed signal or spectrum of different stations, each with it's own true and false aspects. Philosophically it can be argues that there is no object truth at all -- which I doubt but cannot dismiss, at least in pragmatic terms.

Yet, there does indeed seem to be narratives which don't hold up, and often from the right wing, based on faulty assumptions, ideology, mind sets, and 'facts'. I am reminded of the complex geocentric models of the middle ages, which DID work for predicting observed positions of the planets, even while wrong at the basis. Even Newton's laws of physics are wrong -- but also right, depending on context and precision, and Einstein's relativity is right -- but also likely wrong in context of some more universal theory.

One problem I see is the idea of Jewish bankers -- where Jewish is irrelevant,  but bankers, of any sort, is more applicable, and where anti-semitism distorts the narrative. Another problem is saying that EVERY war, assassination, etc. is the result of some banking conspiracy or structural funancial defect -- even if it might be 'almost always' a factor, because one cannot dismiss ideology, or nutty group think, or perhaps even the occasional lone crazy person.  There is a multiplicity of forces and movements at work, apparently - but it does seem to me that the role of bankers and "illuminati" (oligarchy) have been obscured and under estimated.

It's too complicated for my mind to have any certainty, and shifting level of high or low confidence is about as best I can manage at this point.  I find it increasingly more difficult to give any explanation with high confidence -- more so than saying what is apparently NOT the explanation or truth.
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