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From: niyas abbas <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Jim Binks <jbin...@gmail.com>; 'LALITH KARUNARATNA' <lalithka...@hotmail.com>; 'Trishool' <Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011, 23:07
Subject: Re: Wife beating etiquette

Hi Jim,

How is that you being a scientist never looked in to the Quran .... Didn't anyone hint you at what you might find in it .... I think you have the opportunity now. Good to know you are a scientist .... because if you have scientific background it is much easier to appreciate the Quran .... in fact you could really wonder about it .. simply by getting to know the various scientific information in it .... which we humans had acccess to perhaps in the last two or three cetnuries ... some of which were discovered only a few years back ....there are others yet to be proved .....  
 
Quran remains admant and unwavering on scietific facts ... I mean there are no theories in it .... only facts ...  if you are sincere and un-biased ... take a dip in to this treasure trove of information ..... If you simply read the raw Quran you will see it is kind of confusing .... but begin by reading its scientific reviews .....
 
I just found this ..... http://www.harunyahya.com/the_Quran_leads_the_way_to_science03.php  if it may benefit you in your reading ..... please go thru it carefully .... This author has a huge wardrobe of reaserch materials on Quran and Science .... This will sure add credits to your standing on your rational thinking ..... even if you want to be a critic of Quran you need the authentic first hand knowledge about it ... I am sure you agree with me ...
 
Please stick to this excellent principle that you seem to cherish .... "One thing is for sure I do not intend to offend anyone .." I like this ... This is the civilized way of communicating with fellow beings ....
 
Good Luck
 
Niyas 

 

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From: Jim Binks <jbin...@gmail.com>
To: 'niyas abbas' <niyas...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'LALITH KARUNARATNA' <lalithka...@hotmail.com>; 'Trishool'
Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011, 10:07
Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette


Hi Niyas,
 
One thing is for sure I do not intend to offend anyone and yes I approach life rationally.
I just can’t take the leap of faith. There is no conclusive evidence in any book.
I will take your word about the Holy Quran. I have never read it.  It may be untouched so you could be right.
That is your way in life. Fine.
 
My problem is that I can speak about three languages – all quite badly, with the exception of English and translation is so inexact.
I am a scientist by profession and so I look for measurable, provable facts. That’s where I kind of move off the believers pathway.
 
Thanks for the info. I will check this out later, my friend.
 
Jim
 
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Subject: Re: Wife beating etiquette

Jim,
 
I know you want to think rational. I hope you mean it ...
 
You wrote ...."I don’t consider what happens after death as this is merely speculation and opinion and not based on facts"
 
Facts are available but you have not made up your mind to see it ..... Suppose if what every religion, including Islam and Buddhism ( Buddhism talks of Hell & Heaven too ) .... ask Lalith he will testify ....says is true about life after death .... then, you will never find a way to come back and amend your follies ....
 
So why don't you verify this from the only authentic, well preserved scripture, The Quran , which is preserved without a letter being changed, ... This revelation can easily be verified to be from no Human but from a very intelligent Being with knowledge of beginning and end of this universe and everything in it ... You can try your luck, perchance you may be guided in to it ... All other scriptures have lost its validity due to the corruptions in them due to which they have fragmented in to hundreds of versions of the single message. Only Quran has been preserved by its auther and owner Allah, the Almighty God of you and me.
 
So don't take your chances about life after death .... Let me give you one single point .... in His Book Allah asks .... "if one kills an innocent human ... you may take his life to punish him but if he kills two or more (or millions as Bush and the coalition nations did to Muslims) how will you fittingly punish? ... God will punish him in Hell and give the same treatment over and over again .... by " ... as much as their skins are roasted that skin will be restored so that they will taste the pain over and over again" ..... Now scientists say the pain recepticles are in the skin .... Hmm ... how did an illiterate prophet know this ....
 
So this is just a point for your thought ... if it may ring the bell for you ... It is Allah who guides and not me ... The condition for guidance is the sincere and himble search for truth .... many agnosts have been lucky in the past to be admitteed to this Majestic Religion ...
 
Niyas
 
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Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011, 8:37
Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette
Yep …as with all things I have reconsidered.
Call me old fashioned but I was brought up not to break the law. So it’s not going to happen!
I don’t consider what happens after death as this is merely speculation and opinion and not based on facts.
You are entitled to your view on this and I respect that. Personally I choose not to believe in any current theories, although I leave my heart open to any future revelations.
“does not apply after life”…..Hmmm. I see no proof of this. If I go to Hell  and I am wrong, well I guess we can carry on this debate there together.
I’m not against homos but I choose to and my wife and I enjoy sex. We have two wonderful children and I can’t wait to get home and make a third. We both want another one.
The only thing I will beat my wife with is my “baby-making rod !”
 
Life is for living, mate. Switch off your PC and go for a walk. See the world. It’s not that bad outside.
 
Jim
 
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Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette
 
Nope . . . you may still consider follow the Imam in the video . .
Because,  "we are all treated equaly" statement does not apply after life then you may go to hell not following the rules.
 
Besides, being a homo is not a big issue in earth as even in heaven you get boys as per Niyas and the group.
Wine too . . .This is only a conditional issue in Earth avoid wine and Homo . . . 
 
So, I suggest you still beat your wife . . . unless you want to go to hell . . .
 
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Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:59:49 +0400
Ahh…I can tell you now without going through the process…
 
1.       You beat your wife
2.       She calls the Police
3.       You go to Jail
4.       You get regular homo sex every time you bend down to pick up the soap in the showers.
 
This is true across all faiths in the UK. We are all treated equally!
 
 
 
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Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette
 
How about this?
 Jim you beat your wife and see what happen?? 
 . . . .The headache will be gone
 . . . . . . . she will love you better . . .
 . . . . . .. . . . .after all you will be a proven Islamist then get out of being an agnostic . .
Tell me your result then I will follow you . .. . 
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Subject: RE: Wife beating etiquette
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:16:03 +0400
Wow.  I’m puzzled. The statistics regarding the UK -  thrown in and glossed over quickly. What a joke. He must have phoned an Imam in a Mosque and not the UK National Statistics Hub (www.statisctics.gov.uk). I’m sure the answer would be different.
I’m not judging this way of life but I prefer to negotiate with my wife. Maybe This guys wife has a headache? Or doesn’t love him anymore? I’m not convinced this is a fair system. I’m sticking to being an Agnostic.
 
Jim
 
 
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