This is dangerous! SC Lt. Governor calls for a Constitutional Convention
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Apr 1, 2010, 3:22:45 AM4/1/10
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MORE BS. The States can void this one state at a time. No need for a convention. You'd end up with a police state and still have the health care bill as is or worse.
SC Lt. Governor calls for a Constitutional Convention to reverse health care legislation
STATES AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPEAR HEADED TOWARD SHOWDOWN; IS A CON-CON THE ANSWER?
by Kathleen Gotto
SC Lt. Governor André Bauer, who is also a candidate for Governor
(Mar. 29, 2010) — America has been waiting for bold state leadership to stop the naked power grab of Barack Obama’s putative administration. Indeed, there are now 40 states with legislation pushing back federally-mandated health care, as well as at least a dozen states suing to strike down the mandate to purchase health insurance. Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News senior judicial analyst, charges the Obama administration with actually “commandeering” the state legislatures for federal purposes. It is unconstitutional for the federal government to take such action. However, as we have seen with other industry takeovers by the socialists now in power, the Constitution apparently does not mean anything to them. Remember Nancy Pelosi’s answer when pressed about whether or not health care violated the Tenth Amendment? The progressive website’s article is stark. Pelosi responded incredulously, “Are you serious? Are you serious?” Yes, Nancy, as you will see, we are serious. We are very serious.
The Constitution is still the law of the land, regardless of how repugnant that may be to the Obama regime. But because of our own ignorance and complacency, misplaced trust in our elected officials, and the abrogation of responsibility to uphold and defend the Constitution by the courts, Congress and President, we have temporarily lost our way. If we have anything to thank Obama for, it is that he set off the alarm and got us out of bed. We are awake now and we are furious. By and large, Americans do not suffer fools or tyrants lightly. Let there be no mistake: the fight is on.
The action being taken by the majority of states and the many lawsuits now being prepared against the vast overreaching of Obama’s administration attest to just the beginning of the battle. We are now far beyond political allegiance. The question confronting America today is not whether one is a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or other designation. The real question before us as a nation is whether or not we still have a Constitution and, if so, how far are we citizens willing to go to support and defend it? We have seen members of all three branches of the government, each of whom took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, egregiously fail to perform their duties.
Article VI deals with Debts, Supremacy and Oaths and is eminently clear. In particular, where it states, “…This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof [emphasis added] ; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;…” is striking. Only laws which are made in pursuance of the Constitution shall be the supreme law of the land. Obamacare is constitutionally dead on arrival.
There is no middle ground. We either have a Constitution or we don’t. Either we fight and defeat the forces that want to drag down this country into the morass of socialism or we surrender. It is gratifying to see that surrender is not an option for millions of us. We have arisen from our slumber. Americans from all walks of life are rising up and proclaiming, “Oh, no you don’t!” Obama has a hard lesson to learn: Our Constitution trumps Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
There have been some voices rising up from Congress, but the minority party is not being heard at all. It would be difficult to find a time in recent history when partisanship has taken on such overt ugliness. No sense of decency, statesmanship, or real concern for the American people now exists in the Democrat-run Congress, let alone the presidency, which it appears at the moment is being usurped by Obama, a constitutionally-unqualified candidate who should never have been allowed on the ballot in any state. And that is why American citizens, most of whom may have never gotten involved before, are now demonstrating, marching, and protesting for our Constitution, freedom and liberty.
Given the raw abuse of power the Obama administration is flaunting, the time may be ripe for America to exercise her Article V right to convene our republic’s second Constitutional Convention for the purpose of amending it to reverse the takeover of health care. The Constitution simply does not give the federal government authority to demand citizens buy health care, regardless of how much the socialists want to twist and contort the Commerce clause.
To stop this unconstitutional power grab, we can thank South Carolina’s Lt. Gov. André Bauer for requesting that state’s General Assembly to pass a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention to reverse government-mandated health care. Bauer called upon SC Senators Campbell and Cleary in the Senate and Representatives Frye and Scott in the House to assist in drafting the resolution. Hopefully, other states will follow suit. The states must rise up and push back hard against the greedy, overreaching and unconstitutional engulfment of states’ right by the federal government if federalism is to exist. A second Constitutional Convention could do that.
It is interesting to note that we currently have a crisis in this country that is just the opposite from that which the Founding Fathers faced. In 1786 it was recognized that the Articles of Confederation, which were adopted in 1777 , did not give enough power to the federal government, especially in the area of taxation and regulating commerce between the states. Lacking the power to tax, Congress had to look to the states for financial contributions. The states often turned down those requests. What made that so problematic for the young republic was that Congress did not have either the money to pay soldiers for their service in the Revolutionary War or to repay the foreign loans granted to support the war effort. In 1786, the United States was bankrupt. There were numerous other problems, also, such as slavery, property rights, and contract obligations.
To remedy at least some of those problems, on May 25, 1787, the first Constitutional Convention met in Philadelphia. James Madison, a prominent member of the 55 delegates to the Convention, believed that by enlarging the power of the federal government, it would make it more difficult for any one interest group to become a majority and thus gain power. “Madison further aimed to block the ability of an oppressive majority from working its will against minorities by dividing power within the national government into three relatively co-equal branches, each of which would be given weapons to fight the other. Even if a majority were to capture one branch, Madison reasoned, it could only do limited harm if the other branches remained out of its domination.”
Unfortunately, over the course of time, and especially since the 2008 election, the three branches of government have blurred their boundaries to the point that now we have left-wing radicals in the Congress, executive branch, and the courts to one degree or another. That is how we got where we are today with health care. The consensus among conservatives is that Obamacare is more about a huge transfer of power to the executive branch than it is about health care. If there were any Democrat moderates who were concerned about this power grab, they got swallowed up by the left because they had no gumption, no concern for their constituents, and obviously no ability to stand up to Nancy Pelosi.
The United States now has the opposite problem from what James Madison feared. The federal government has become so invasive and pervasive in all aspects of our lives that we, like the frogs being slowly cooked to death, have not realized we are headed for the dinner table. We can, however, thank God that not only citizens are now awake and fighting for our liberties and freedom, but so are many others in state governments and at least a few in the Republican party. It remains to be seen if our judges will actually adjudicate for the upholding of our Constitution.
Lt. Gov. Bauer has exhibited the courage and grit that other politicians need to emulate if we are to get a groundswell of support for a second Constitutional Convention. However, whether this effort comes together or not, politicians all over this country will be put on notice that we have a national crisis that they will ignore only at their own peril.
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Editor’s Note: The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of The Post & Email. There are arguments to be made both in favor of and against a second Constitutional Convention. If the health care bill just “passed” is unconstitutional, the states and their people should be able to declare it null and void by virtue of the Tenth Amendment in the Bill of Rights. Many state legislatures are attempting to do so through recently-launched lawsuits against the legislation passed by the U.S. Congress.
The Post & Email also continues to maintain that anything signed by a usurper to the office of the presidency is automatically null and void. This includes legislation, treaties, contracts and executive orders. If and when Obama is declared a usurper and removed from office by failing to meet the requirements of Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution, everything he has signed must be nullified and a new president appointed, according to the Twentieth Amendment to the Constitution.
© 2010, The Post & Email, Inc. All rights reserved internationally, unless otherwise specified. To read more on our copyright restrictions, see our Copyright notice on the subheader of every page, along the left margin.
SC Lt. Governor calls for a Constitutional Convention to reverse health care legislation
STATES AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPEAR HEADED TOWARD SHOWDOWN; IS A CON-CON THE ANSWER?
by Kathleen Gotto
SC Lt. Governor André Bauer, who is also a candidate for Governor
(Mar. 29, 2010) — America has been waiting for bold state leadership to stop the naked power grab of Barack Obama’s putative administration. Indeed, there are now 40 states with legislation pushing back federally-mandated health care, as well as at least a dozen states suing to strike down the mandate to purchase health insurance. Judge Andrew Napolitano, Fox News senior judicial analyst, charges the Obama administration with actually “commandeering” the state legislatures for federal purposes. It is unconstitutional for the federal government to take such action. However, as we have seen with other industry takeovers by the socialists now in power, the Constitution apparently does not mean anything to them. Remember Nancy Pelosi’s answer when pressed about whether or not health care violated the Tenth Amendment? The progressive website’s article is stark. Pelosi responded incredulously, “Are you serious? Are you serious?” Yes, Nancy, as you will see, we are serious. We are very serious.
The Constitution is still the law of the land, regardless of how repugnant that may be to the Obama regime. But because of our own ignorance and complacency, misplaced trust in our elected officials, and the abrogation of responsibility to uphold and defend the Constitution by the courts, Congress and President, we have temporarily lost our way. If we have anything to thank Obama for, it is that he set off the alarm and got us out of bed. We are awake now and we are furious. By and large, Americans do not suffer fools or tyrants lightly. Let there be no mistake: the fight is on.
The action being taken by the majority of states and the many lawsuits now being prepared against the vast overreaching of Obama’s administration attest to just the beginning of the battle. We are now far beyond political allegiance. The question confronting America today is not whether one is a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or other designation. The real question before us as a nation is whether or not we still have a Constitution and, if so, how far are we citizens willing to go to support and defend it? We have seen members of all three branches of the government, each of whom took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, egregiously fail to perform their duties.
Article VI deals with Debts, Supremacy and Oaths and is eminently clear. In particular, where it states, “…This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof [emphasis added] ; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;…” is striking. Only laws which are made in pursuance of the Constitution shall be the supreme law of the land. Obamacare is constitutionally dead on arrival.
There is no middle ground. We either have a Constitution or we don’t. Either we fight and defeat the forces that want to drag down this country into the morass of socialism or we surrender. It is gratifying to see that surrender is not an option for millions of us. We have arisen from our slumber. Americans from all walks of life are rising up and proclaiming, “Oh, no you don’t!” Obama has a hard lesson to learn: Our Constitution trumps Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.
There have been some voices rising up from Congress, but the minority party is not being heard at all. It would be difficult to find a time in recent history when partisanship has taken on such overt ugliness. No sense of decency, statesmanship, or real concern for the American people now exists in the Democrat-run Congress, let alone the presidency, which it appears at the moment is being usurped by Obama, a constitutionally-unqualified candidate who should never have been allowed on the ballot in any state. And that is why American citizens, most of whom may have never gotten involved before, are now demonstrating, marching, and protesting for our Constitution, freedom and liberty.
Given the raw abuse of power the Obama administration is flaunting, the time may be ripe for America to exercise her Article V right to convene our republic’s second Constitutional Convention for the purpose of amending it to reverse the takeover of health care. The Constitution simply does not give the federal government authority to demand citizens buy health care, regardless of how much the socialists want to twist and contort the Commerce clause.
To stop this unconstitutional power grab, we can thank South Carolina’s Lt. Gov. André Bauer for requesting that state’s General Assembly to pass a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention to reverse government-mandated health care. Bauer called upon SC Senators Campbell and Cleary in the Senate and Representatives Frye and Scott in the House to assist in drafting the resolution. Hopefully, other states will follow suit. The states must rise up and push back hard against the greedy, overreaching and unconstitutional engulfment of states’ right by the federal government if federalism is to exist. A second Constitutional Convention could do that.
It is interesting to note that we currently have a crisis in this country that is just the opposite from that which the Founding Fathers faced. In 1786 it was recognized that the Articles of Confederation, which were adopted in 1777 , did not give enough power to the federal government, especially in the area of taxation and regulating commerce between the states. Lacking the power to tax, Congress had to look to the states for financial contributions. The states often turned down those requests. What made that so problematic for the young republic was that Congress did not have either the money to pay soldiers for their service in the Revolutionary War or to repay the foreign loans granted to support the war effort. In 1786, the United States was bankrupt. There were numerous other problems, also, such as slavery, property rights, and contract obligations.
To remedy at least some of those problems, on May 25, 1787, the first Constitutional Convention met in Philadelphia. James Madison, a prominent member of the 55 delegates to the Convention, believed that by enlarging the power of the federal government, it would make it more difficult for any one interest group to become a majority and thus gain power. “Madison further aimed to block the ability of an oppressive majority from working its will against minorities by dividing power within the national government into three relatively co-equal branches, each of which would be given weapons to fight the other. Even if a majority were to capture one branch, Madison reasoned, it could only do limited harm if the other branches remained out of its domination.”
Unfortunately, over the course of time, and especially since the 2008 election, the three branches of government have blurred their boundaries to the point that now we have left-wing radicals in the Congress, executive branch, and the courts to one degree or another. That is how we got where we are today with health care. The consensus among conservatives is that Obamacare is more about a huge transfer of power to the executive branch than it is about health care. If there were any Democrat moderates who were concerned about this power grab, they got swallowed up by the left because they had no gumption, no concern for their constituents, and obviously no ability to stand up to Nancy Pelosi.
The United States now has the opposite problem from what James Madison feared. The federal government has become so invasive and pervasive in all aspects of our lives that we, like the frogs being slowly cooked to death, have not realized we are headed for the dinner table. We can, however, thank God that not only citizens are now awake and fighting for our liberties and freedom, but so are many others in state governments and at least a few in the Republican party. It remains to be seen if our judges will actually adjudicate for the upholding of our Constitution.
Lt. Gov. Bauer has exhibited the courage and grit that other politicians need to emulate if we are to get a groundswell of support for a second Constitutional Convention. However, whether this effort comes together or not, politicians all over this country will be put on notice that we have a national crisis that they will ignore only at their own peril.
———————————
Editor’s Note: The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of The Post & Email. There are arguments to be made both in favor of and against a second Constitutional Convention. If the health care bill just “passed” is unconstitutional, the states and their people should be able to declare it null and void by virtue of the Tenth Amendment in the Bill of Rights. Many state legislatures are attempting to do so through recently-launched lawsuits against the legislation passed by the U.S. Congress.
The Post & Email also continues to maintain that anything signed by a usurper to the office of the presidency is automatically null and void. This includes legislation, treaties, contracts and executive orders. If and when Obama is declared a usurper and removed from office by failing to meet the requirements of Article II, Section 1, paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution, everything he has signed must be nullified and a new president appointed, according to the Twentieth Amendment to the Constitution.
© 2010, The Post & Email, Inc. All rights reserved internationally, unless otherwise specified. To read more on our copyright restrictions, see our Copyright notice on the subheader of every page, along the left margin.
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A con con would be devastating to our rights. Nothing is off the table once one is in session. Does anyone think the liberals would not flood the convention and influence it? If you believe this is a good idea you need to educate yourselves.
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