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Apr 17, 2010, 6:30:46 PM4/17/10
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100415 Genesis 19 study
Genesis 19
Ge 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the
gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed
himself with his face toward the ground;
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 19
Chapter 19
1. And the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was
sitting in the gate of Sodom, and Lot saw and arose toward them, and
he prostrated himself on his face to the ground.
the…angels: But elsewhere (18:2) Scripture calls them men! When the
Shechinah was with them, it calls them men. Another explanation: In
connection with Abraham, whose power was great, and the angels were as
frequently with him as men, it calls them men, but in connection with
Lot, it calls them angels. — [from Gen. Rabbah 52; Tan. Buber, Vayera
20]
in the evening: Now did the angels tarry so long from Hebron to Sodom?
But they were angels of mercy, and they were waiting, perhaps Abraham
would succeed in his defense for them [the cities]. — [from Gen.
Rabbah 50:1]
The Talmud reports that the Shekhinah is what caused prophets to
prophesy and King David to compose his Psalms. The Shekhinah manifests
itself as a form of joy, connected with prophecy and creativity:
(This is a description of what I usually feel when I am “in the
Spirit” and prophecy.)
Talmud Pesachim 117a) The Talmud also reports that "The Shekhinah does
not rest amidst laziness, nor amidst laughter, nor amidst
lightheadedness, nor amidst idle conversation. Rather, it is amidst
the joy associated with a mitzvah
(From Wikipedia: The term mitzvah has also come to express an act of
human kindness. According to the teachings of Judaism, all moral laws
are, or are derived from, divine commandments. Mitzvah is a word used
in Judaism to refer to the 613 commandments given in the Torah and the
seven rabbinic commandments instituted later for a total of 620.)
that the Shekhinah comes to rest upon people, as it is said: 'And
now, bring me for a musician, and it happened that when the music
played, God's hand rested upon him' [Elisha] [2 Kings 3:15]" (Pesachim
117a). Thus the Shekhinah is associated with the transformational
spirit of God regarded as the source of prophecy:
(I call the Shekhinah “My Father of Prophecy” This is a record of Saul
being made king and a lot of prophecy that was to be fulfilled as seen
by “My Father of Prophecy”)
1 Samuel 10 (New International Version)
1 Samuel 10
1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul's head and
kissed him, saying, "Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his
inheritance? [a] 2 When you leave me today, you will meet two men near
Rachel's tomb, at Zelzah on the border of Benjamin. They will say to
you, 'The donkeys you set out to look for have been found. And now
your father has stopped thinking about them and is worried about you.
He is asking, "What shall I do about my son?" '
3 "Then you will go on from there until you reach the great tree of
Tabor. Three men going up to God at Bethel will meet you there. One
will be carrying three young goats, another three loaves of bread, and
another a skin of wine. 4 They will greet you and offer you two loaves
of bread, which you will accept from them.
5 "After that you will go to Gibeah of God, where there is a
Philistine outpost. As you approach the town, you will meet a
procession of prophets coming down from the high place with lyres,
tambourines, flutes and harps being played before them, and they will
be prophesying. 6 The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power,
and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a
different person. 7 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your
hand finds to do, for God is with you.
8 "Go down ahead of me to Gilgal. I will surely come down to you to
sacrifice burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [b] but you must
wait seven days until I come to you and tell you what you are to do."
Then: Saul Made King
After that thou shalt come to the hill of God, where is the garrison
of the Philistines; and it shall come to pass, when thou art come
thither to the city, that thou shalt meet a band of prophets coming
down from the high place with a psaltery, and a timbrel, and a pipe,
and a harp, before them; and they will be prophesying.
And the spirit of the LORD will come mightily upon thee, and thou
shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man. (1
Samuel 10:5-6 JPS).
The prophets made numerous references to metaphorical visions of the
presence of God, particularly in the context of the Tabernacle or
Temple, with figures such as thrones or robes filling the Sanctuary,
which have traditionally been attributed to the presence of the
Shekhinah. Isaiah wrote "I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne high and
lifted up, and his train filled the Temple." (Isaiah 6:1).
(I am going to relate a memory of a vision I had. This vision it is
obscure as to when or where I had it but it has to do with this
passage In Isaiah 6 and also of the vision Ezekiel had. This is what I
remember of the vision or dream… I was smoking a cigarette and I
accidentally put it in my mouth backwards. Then I saw a man with a red
cloak that was wrapped tightly around him from top of head and neck to
legs with only his face exposed.
I looked into his face and he extended his right hand to me and I
could see that it was not exactly an arm in a cloak but a wing that
was wrapping around him from head to foot. Then we were flying and I
could see a larger angel beast with four faces on his head, one
pointing each direction and spinning wheels of destruction below. We
were flying together to a place that is and is not a place on this
earth. These things are only partially remembered and I might be
remembering the bible or a movie and calling it my dream because it is
an old vision and I had it before I studied the bible prophecy very
much.
Now is the part of the vision that I clearly remember and the part of
the vision that I do know to be true because when I was just studying
Genesis 19:1 and this word Shekhinah jumped out at me so I clicked it
and found this…)
“The prophets made numerous references to metaphorical visions of the
presence of God, particularly in the context of the Tabernacle or
Temple, with figures such as thrones or robes filling the Sanctuary,
which have traditionally been attributed to the presence of the
Shekhinah. Isaiah wrote "I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne high and
lifted up, and his train filled the Temple." (Isaiah 6:1).
Jeremiah implored "Do not dishonor the throne of your glory" (Jeremiah
14:21) and referred to "Thou throne of glory, on high from the
beginning, Thou place of our sanctuary" (Jeremiah 17:12). Ezekiel
spoke of "the glory of the God of Israel was there [in the Sanctuary],
according to the vision that I saw in the plain."
(Any way in my remembered dream or vision the Angel and I arrived and
suddenly I was standing on some steps in very large room, This part of
the vision is very clear because of a thought I had that made me
remember the dream later. I could see that the room had a depressed
floor in the center and steps lining all the walls like bleachers. I
was standing on the steps and I had a hood on like a sweat jacket but
the jacket was like a silk blanket that filled the whole room. This
“train” was red and I believe it must have been partially see through
because I could see the steps leading up all around the parameter of
the room.
I looked and I was wearing a skin tight silk body suit below the
“robe” and this left my hands and feet free to move. This is why I
remember this vision so clearly I knew I was a very powerful High
Priest and as I looked at myself I could not understand why I wore
these scarlet robes which appeared to me to be so vane. Also there
were seraphim standing at the tops of the ascending “bleachers”
looking on at me and perhaps a few other people were there too.
What I know is this I was told to study Genesis almost a year ago by a
voice I heard coming from heaven sounding in thunder from a rain
storm. I had this vision (about 2006) at I time when I first met this
Spirit and at that time I nick named Him “Bonergese Zebedee” a short
for Jesus disciples dad, Mr. Zebedee. John and James Zebedee were
nicknamed by Jesus “The sons of thunder” so when I heard this voice
from thunder and being touched by Shechinah, I nicknamed the Voice of
thunder Bonergese Zebedee “My father of Promise” or at that time “The
father of the sons of thunder”
This Spirit that speaks from thunder is written of in Revelation many
times, and a few days ago, about March 27 or 28 2010 I was told to Go
back to studying Genesis for Bonergese because He wanted me to find
out information about this voice from thunder as, or that relates to
the voice from thunder that Moses heard on the Mount Sinai. So I was
doing a few other studies about apostasy and false teachers to get a
background on Noah and a few days ago when I was in the shower in the
morning I was told to return to Genesis proper and found this
reference to Judgment in Genesis 18 where God himself investigated the
scene of the crime in Gomorrah, but first went to “the god of this
world” to speak of the investigation which is exactly what I am doing.
And it leads to the remembrance of the robe filled temple vision, and
to the place it is written of in the bible. At a spot I have been
expounding on over and over as lead by The Spirit, but I had missed
the key over and over about the Train filling the temple.
I had disregarded the vision because my shame at the vanity of such
magnificent robes, and yet the whole thing was written by Isaiah
including the deaf blind flock I keep writing to year after year that
wont acknowledge my presence as I cry inside because of the words of
my lord Jesus…
Matthew 10:33 (New International Version)
32"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him
before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before men, I
will disown him before my Father in heaven.
(I love America and was disowned by America but now am restored in
America.)
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did
not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
(My dad disowned me, but while forgiven by me is now dead.)
a daughter against her mother,
(My daughters mother separated me from my daughter but my ex wife is
now dead though forgiven by me.)
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law –
(My next ex wife is another story and that one has not unraveled yet
but I believe she is the hub of the false accusation which caused
America to disown me, we shall see, but she is forgiven by me.)
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[e]
(This slander, possibly perpetrated by a daughter in law to a mother
in law did cause my family to treat me as an enemy, but that is over
now.)
37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy
of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy
of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not
worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses
his life for my sake will find it.
(That is what happened in 2003 when I left my home in Colorado because
my family had become my enemy due to the slander described in the
book of Jeremiah, I left my life to seek Jesus and walked out of
Colorado with a suitcase or two and some hotdogs and wound up here
after many years of homelessness because the vanity of the church wont
help a christen and a pastor wont even speak to one unless he has an
address and a new set of clothes on to prove he is a prophet.)
40"He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives
the one who sent me. 41Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a
prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and anyone who receives a
righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous
man's reward. 42And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of
these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he
will certainly not lose his reward."
(Which is why I worry what reward has this anti Christ earned?)
Isaiah 6 (New International Version)
Isaiah 6
Isaiah's Commission
1 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a
throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple.
2 Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they
covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two
they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another:
"Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory."
4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and
the temple was filled with smoke.
5 "Woe to me!" I cried. "I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips,
and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the
King, the LORD Almighty."
6 Then one of the seraphs flew to me with a live coal in his hand,
which he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it he touched my
mouth and said, "See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken
away and your sin atoned for."
8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And
who will go for us?"
And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"
9 He said, "Go and tell this people:
" 'Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.'
(I was just writing of Daniel’s prophecy about this and many other
studies are about this because the people of the end are like this.)
10 Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes. [a]
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed."
11 Then I said, "For how long, O Lord?"
And he answered:
"Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12 until the LORD has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
13 And though a tenth remains in the land,
it will again be laid waste.
But as the terebinth and oak
leave stumps when they are cut down,
so the holy seed will be the stump in the land."
(I believe this speaks of the 2001 gathering of seed from the remnant.
In 2001 all humanity attacked me literally and I believe it was
extinctive because I gathered three “seeds of spiritual fruit” from
each living person on this earth leaving the living ass the “remnant”
and that the “spiritual Fruit” would re grow from the “root” that is
the heart of the living person Like the Terebinth and oak tree’s which
re grow from the root when cut down.
I wanted confirmation of this so I word searched Chabad on look what I
found for Terebinth.)
1. The Prophet Isaiah - The Kingdom of Judah
Yet like the terebinth and oak, which when felled, retain their roots
and stem, so remains the stem of their holy seed.'" Isaiah's mission
was not only to ...
www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/464019/.../The-Prophet-Isaiah.htm
And I heard the voice of G-d, saying: 'Whom shall I send, and who will
go for us?' And I said: 'Here am I; send me.' And He replied: 'Go, say
unto this people; Ye hear indeed, but understand not; ye see indeed,
but know not. Made obstinate is the heart of this people; their ears
are heavy and their eyes shut; or else their eyes would see, their
ears hear, and their hearts be understanding, in order that they
repent and be healed.' And I said: 'How long, oh L-rd?' And He
replied: 'Until cities be left waste without inhabitants, and houses
without men, and the land be made desolate as a wilderness. Till G-d
will have removed the men far away, and there will be great desolation
in the midst of the land. And should a tenth part thereof remain, it
will again be swept away. Yet like the terebinth and oak, which when
felled, retain their roots and stem, so remains the stem of their holy
seed.'"
(I ask you, how am I to disbelieve, and if I don’t disbelieve how much
does it hurt to see this is true?)
Footnotes:
a. Isaiah 6:10 Hebrew; Septuagint 'You will be ever hearing, but never
understanding; / you will be ever seeing, but never perceiving.' / 10
This people's heart has become calloused; / they hardly hear with
their ears, / and they have closed their eyes
(This is the exact study I was studying (the blind deaf false prophet
and teacher team, the ole prophet persecutor, tithe paid, church group
study, to get to this spot today (Where I have received healing
because I learned my father had the whole thing documented in Genesis
18 and 19 (So far) and GOD SENT His Word and Healed Me, so now that it
is shown I am going to lunch.)
Ge 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into
your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye
shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we
will abide in the street all night.
Ge 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him,
and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake
unleavened bread, and they did eat.
Ge 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of
Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people
from every quarter:
4. When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the
people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire
populace from every end[of the city].
When they had not yet retired, the people of the city, the people of
Sodom: It is interpreted in Gen. Rabbah (50:5) as follows: When they
had not yet retired, the people of the city were the topic of
conversation of the angels, for they were asking Lot about their
character and their deeds, and he told them that most of them were
wicked. While they were still speaking about them, “And the people of
the city,” etc. The simple meaning of the verse, however, is: “and the
people of the city, people of wickedness, surrounded the house.”
Because they were wicked, they are called people of Sodom, as
Scripture states (above 13:13): “And the people of Sodom were very
evil and sinful…”
the entire populace from every end: From one end of the city to the
other, for not one of them protested, because there was not even one
righteous man among them. —
Ge 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men
which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may
know them.
5. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came
to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us be intimate with
them."
and let us be intimate with them: homosexually, as in (verse 8):“who
were not intimate with a man.” - [from Gen. Rabbah 55:5]
(These are wicked men indeed who want to rape angels, but that is the
matter I am looking into now. There Abomination that makes desolate
that was set up in my temple was or is still ploting how to make me
become homosexual prostitute. It is a sin for which it will remain in
a living flesh body in a place without light nor water and air and
gasp and choke and rasp for approximately 100 zillion one hundred
trillion times ten years, and the reason I worry about the American
remnant, they like the men of Sodom are to pay the price for a devil’s
sin?
The scripture states they will be full of knowledge ever seeking never
finding blind and deaf but what I believe is that they need to , like
the men of Sodom reason with me, but America like Sodom will not show
what God need to see for mercy.
It is obviously up to Americans like the angels tarried until evening
I tarry until 2066.6 month. That is a long time in the future in2010
but how long does it take to realize forbidding marriage and food
which is stated to be given by God to good men, is not the providence
of man over man?)
Genesis 19:5 (New International Version)
5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight?
Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
Genesis 19:5 (Amplified Bible)
5And they called to Lot and said, Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know (be intimate with)
them.
Ge 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door
after him,
Ge 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Ge 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let
me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good
in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing *; for therefore came
they under the shadow of my roof.
Ge 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one
fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we
deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the
man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Ge 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the
house to them, and shut to the door.
Ge 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house
with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves
to find the door.
Ge 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in
law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the
city, bring them out of this place:
Ge 19:13 For we will destroy * this place, because the cry of them is
waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to
destroy it.
Ge 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which
married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for
the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto
his sons in law.
Ge 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot,
saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here;
lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
Ge 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and
upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the
LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him
without the city.
Ge 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad,
that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay
thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
Ge 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
Ge 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and
thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in
saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil
take me, and I die:
Ge 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a
little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and
my soul shall live.
Ge 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning
this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which
thou hast spoken.
Ge 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till
thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
Ge 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Ge 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone
and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Ge 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the
inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Ge 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a
pillar of salt.
Ge 19:27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he
stood before the LORD:
Ge 19:28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the
land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went
up as the smoke of a furnace.
Ge 19:29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the
plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of
the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Ge 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and
his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he
dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
Ge 19:31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old,
and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the
manner of all the earth:
Ge 19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with
him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
Ge 19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the
firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when
she lay down, nor when she arose.
Ge 19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said
unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us
make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him,
that we may preserve seed of our father.
Ge 19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and
the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay
down, nor when she arose.
Ge 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their
father.
Ge 19:37 And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the
same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
37. And the elder bore a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father
of Moab until this day.
Moab: This one, who was immodest, publicized that he was from her
father (מוֹאָב-מֵאָב), but the younger one named him euphemistically
(עַמִי בֶן the son of my people) and was rewarded in the time of
Moses, for it is stated concerning the children of Ammon (Deut.
2:19):“You shall not involve yourself in strife with them” at all, but
concerning Moab, He warned them only not to wage war with them, but He
permitted them [the Israelites] to cause them pain. — [from Nazir 23b]
Ge 19:38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name
Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this
day.
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Genesis 19
Ge 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the
gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed
himself with his face toward the ground;
Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 19
Chapter 19
1. And the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was
sitting in the gate of Sodom, and Lot saw and arose toward them, and
he prostrated himself on his face to the ground.
the…angels: But elsewhere (18:2) Scripture calls them men! When the
Shechinah was with them, it calls them men. Another explanation: In
connection with Abraham, whose power was great, and the angels were as
frequently with him as men, it calls them men, but in connection with
Lot, it calls them angels. — [from Gen. Rabbah 52; Tan. Buber, Vayera
20]
in the evening: Now did the angels tarry so long from Hebron to Sodom?
But they were angels of mercy, and they were waiting, perhaps Abraham
would succeed in his defense for them [the cities]. — [from Gen.
Rabbah 50:1]
The Talmud reports that the Shekhinah is what caused prophets to
prophesy and King David to compose his Psalms. The Shekhinah manifests
itself as a form of joy, connected with prophecy and creativity:
(This is a description of what I usually feel when I am “in the
Spirit” and prophecy.)
Talmud Pesachim 117a) The Talmud also reports that "The Shekhinah does
not rest amidst laziness, nor amidst laughter, nor amidst
lightheadedness, nor amidst idle conversation. Rather, it is amidst
the joy associated with a mitzvah
(From Wikipedia: The term mitzvah has also come to express an act of
human kindness. According to the teachings of Judaism, all moral laws
are, or are derived from, divine commandments. Mitzvah is a word used
in Judaism to refer to the 613 commandments given in the Torah and the
seven rabbinic commandments instituted later for a total of 620.)
that the Shekhinah comes to rest upon people, as it is said: 'And
now, bring me for a musician, and it happened that when the music
played, God's hand rested upon him' [Elisha] [2 Kings 3:15]" (Pesachim
117a). Thus the Shekhinah is associated with the transformational
spirit of God regarded as the source of prophecy:
(I call the Shekhinah “My Father of Prophecy” This is a record of Saul
being made king and a lot of prophecy that was to be fulfilled as seen
by “My Father of Prophecy”)
1 Samuel 10 (New International Version)
1 Samuel 10
1 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul's head and
kissed him, saying, "Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his
inheritance? [a] 2 When you leave me today, you will meet two men near
Rachel's tomb, at Zelzah on the border of Benjamin. They will say to
you, 'The donkeys you set out to look for have been found. And now
your father has stopped thinking about them and is worried about you.
He is asking, "What shall I do about my son?" '
3 "Then you will go on from there until you reach the great tree of
Tabor. Three men going up to God at Bethel will meet you there. One
will be carrying three young goats, another three loaves of bread, and
another a skin of wine. 4 They will greet you and offer you two loaves
of bread, which you will accept from them.
5 "After that you will go to Gibeah of God, where there is a
Philistine outpost. As you approach the town, you will meet a
procession of prophets coming down from the high place with lyres,
tambourines, flutes and harps being played before them, and they will
be prophesying. 6 The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power,
and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a
different person. 7 Once these signs are fulfilled, do whatever your
hand finds to do, for God is with you.
8 "Go down ahead of me to Gilgal. I will surely come down to you to
sacrifice burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [b] but you must
wait seven days until I come to you and tell you what you are to do."
Then: Saul Made King
After that thou shalt come to the hill of God, where is the garrison
of the Philistines; and it shall come to pass, when thou art come
thither to the city, that thou shalt meet a band of prophets coming
down from the high place with a psaltery, and a timbrel, and a pipe,
and a harp, before them; and they will be prophesying.
And the spirit of the LORD will come mightily upon thee, and thou
shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man. (1
Samuel 10:5-6 JPS).
The prophets made numerous references to metaphorical visions of the
presence of God, particularly in the context of the Tabernacle or
Temple, with figures such as thrones or robes filling the Sanctuary,
which have traditionally been attributed to the presence of the
Shekhinah. Isaiah wrote "I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne high and
lifted up, and his train filled the Temple." (Isaiah 6:1).
(I am going to relate a memory of a vision I had. This vision it is
obscure as to when or where I had it but it has to do with this
passage In Isaiah 6 and also of the vision Ezekiel had. This is what I
remember of the vision or dream… I was smoking a cigarette and I
accidentally put it in my mouth backwards. Then I saw a man with a red
cloak that was wrapped tightly around him from top of head and neck to
legs with only his face exposed.
I looked into his face and he extended his right hand to me and I
could see that it was not exactly an arm in a cloak but a wing that
was wrapping around him from head to foot. Then we were flying and I
could see a larger angel beast with four faces on his head, one
pointing each direction and spinning wheels of destruction below. We
were flying together to a place that is and is not a place on this
earth. These things are only partially remembered and I might be
remembering the bible or a movie and calling it my dream because it is
an old vision and I had it before I studied the bible prophecy very
much.
Now is the part of the vision that I clearly remember and the part of
the vision that I do know to be true because when I was just studying
Genesis 19:1 and this word Shekhinah jumped out at me so I clicked it
and found this…)
“The prophets made numerous references to metaphorical visions of the
presence of God, particularly in the context of the Tabernacle or
Temple, with figures such as thrones or robes filling the Sanctuary,
which have traditionally been attributed to the presence of the
Shekhinah. Isaiah wrote "I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne high and
lifted up, and his train filled the Temple." (Isaiah 6:1).
Jeremiah implored "Do not dishonor the throne of your glory" (Jeremiah
14:21) and referred to "Thou throne of glory, on high from the
beginning, Thou place of our sanctuary" (Jeremiah 17:12). Ezekiel
spoke of "the glory of the God of Israel was there [in the Sanctuary],
according to the vision that I saw in the plain."
(Any way in my remembered dream or vision the Angel and I arrived and
suddenly I was standing on some steps in very large room, This part of
the vision is very clear because of a thought I had that made me
remember the dream later. I could see that the room had a depressed
floor in the center and steps lining all the walls like bleachers. I
was standing on the steps and I had a hood on like a sweat jacket but
the jacket was like a silk blanket that filled the whole room. This
“train” was red and I believe it must have been partially see through
because I could see the steps leading up all around the parameter of
the room.
I looked and I was wearing a skin tight silk body suit below the
“robe” and this left my hands and feet free to move. This is why I
remember this vision so clearly I knew I was a very powerful High
Priest and as I looked at myself I could not understand why I wore
these scarlet robes which appeared to me to be so vane. Also there
were seraphim standing at the tops of the ascending “bleachers”
looking on at me and perhaps a few other people were there too.
What I know is this I was told to study Genesis almost a year ago by a
voice I heard coming from heaven sounding in thunder from a rain
storm. I had this vision (about 2006) at I time when I first met this
Spirit and at that time I nick named Him “Bonergese Zebedee” a short
for Jesus disciples dad, Mr. Zebedee. John and James Zebedee were
nicknamed by Jesus “The sons of thunder” so when I heard this voice
from thunder and being touched by Shechinah, I nicknamed the Voice of
thunder Bonergese Zebedee “My father of Promise” or at that time “The
father of the sons of thunder”
This Spirit that speaks from thunder is written of in Revelation many
times, and a few days ago, about March 27 or 28 2010 I was told to Go
back to studying Genesis for Bonergese because He wanted me to find
out information about this voice from thunder as, or that relates to
the voice from thunder that Moses heard on the Mount Sinai. So I was
doing a few other studies about apostasy and false teachers to get a
background on Noah and a few days ago when I was in the shower in the
morning I was told to return to Genesis proper and found this
reference to Judgment in Genesis 18 where God himself investigated the
scene of the crime in Gomorrah, but first went to “the god of this
world” to speak of the investigation which is exactly what I am doing.
And it leads to the remembrance of the robe filled temple vision, and
to the place it is written of in the bible. At a spot I have been
expounding on over and over as lead by The Spirit, but I had missed
the key over and over about the Train filling the temple.
I had disregarded the vision because my shame at the vanity of such
magnificent robes, and yet the whole thing was written by Isaiah
including the deaf blind flock I keep writing to year after year that
wont acknowledge my presence as I cry inside because of the words of
my lord Jesus…
Matthew 10:33 (New International Version)
32"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him
before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before men, I
will disown him before my Father in heaven.
(I love America and was disowned by America but now am restored in
America.)
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did
not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
(My dad disowned me, but while forgiven by me is now dead.)
a daughter against her mother,
(My daughters mother separated me from my daughter but my ex wife is
now dead though forgiven by me.)
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law –
(My next ex wife is another story and that one has not unraveled yet
but I believe she is the hub of the false accusation which caused
America to disown me, we shall see, but she is forgiven by me.)
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[e]
(This slander, possibly perpetrated by a daughter in law to a mother
in law did cause my family to treat me as an enemy, but that is over
now.)
37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy
of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy
of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not
worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses
his life for my sake will find it.
(That is what happened in 2003 when I left my home in Colorado because
my family had become my enemy due to the slander described in the
book of Jeremiah, I left my life to seek Jesus and walked out of
Colorado with a suitcase or two and some hotdogs and wound up here
after many years of homelessness because the vanity of the church wont
help a christen and a pastor wont even speak to one unless he has an
address and a new set of clothes on to prove he is a prophet.)
40"He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives
the one who sent me. 41Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a
prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and anyone who receives a
righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous
man's reward. 42And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of
these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he
will certainly not lose his reward."
(Which is why I worry what reward has this anti Christ earned?)
Isaiah 6 (New International Version)
Isaiah 6
Isaiah's Commission
1 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a
throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple.
2 Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they
covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two
they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another:
"Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory."
4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and
the temple was filled with smoke.
5 "Woe to me!" I cried. "I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips,
and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the
King, the LORD Almighty."
6 Then one of the seraphs flew to me with a live coal in his hand,
which he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7 With it he touched my
mouth and said, "See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken
away and your sin atoned for."
8 Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And
who will go for us?"
And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"
9 He said, "Go and tell this people:
" 'Be ever hearing, but never understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.'
(I was just writing of Daniel’s prophecy about this and many other
studies are about this because the people of the end are like this.)
10 Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes. [a]
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed."
11 Then I said, "For how long, O Lord?"
And he answered:
"Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12 until the LORD has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.
13 And though a tenth remains in the land,
it will again be laid waste.
But as the terebinth and oak
leave stumps when they are cut down,
so the holy seed will be the stump in the land."
(I believe this speaks of the 2001 gathering of seed from the remnant.
In 2001 all humanity attacked me literally and I believe it was
extinctive because I gathered three “seeds of spiritual fruit” from
each living person on this earth leaving the living ass the “remnant”
and that the “spiritual Fruit” would re grow from the “root” that is
the heart of the living person Like the Terebinth and oak tree’s which
re grow from the root when cut down.
I wanted confirmation of this so I word searched Chabad on look what I
found for Terebinth.)
1. The Prophet Isaiah - The Kingdom of Judah
Yet like the terebinth and oak, which when felled, retain their roots
and stem, so remains the stem of their holy seed.'" Isaiah's mission
was not only to ...
www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/464019/.../The-Prophet-Isaiah.htm
And I heard the voice of G-d, saying: 'Whom shall I send, and who will
go for us?' And I said: 'Here am I; send me.' And He replied: 'Go, say
unto this people; Ye hear indeed, but understand not; ye see indeed,
but know not. Made obstinate is the heart of this people; their ears
are heavy and their eyes shut; or else their eyes would see, their
ears hear, and their hearts be understanding, in order that they
repent and be healed.' And I said: 'How long, oh L-rd?' And He
replied: 'Until cities be left waste without inhabitants, and houses
without men, and the land be made desolate as a wilderness. Till G-d
will have removed the men far away, and there will be great desolation
in the midst of the land. And should a tenth part thereof remain, it
will again be swept away. Yet like the terebinth and oak, which when
felled, retain their roots and stem, so remains the stem of their holy
seed.'"
(I ask you, how am I to disbelieve, and if I don’t disbelieve how much
does it hurt to see this is true?)
Footnotes:
a. Isaiah 6:10 Hebrew; Septuagint 'You will be ever hearing, but never
understanding; / you will be ever seeing, but never perceiving.' / 10
This people's heart has become calloused; / they hardly hear with
their ears, / and they have closed their eyes
(This is the exact study I was studying (the blind deaf false prophet
and teacher team, the ole prophet persecutor, tithe paid, church group
study, to get to this spot today (Where I have received healing
because I learned my father had the whole thing documented in Genesis
18 and 19 (So far) and GOD SENT His Word and Healed Me, so now that it
is shown I am going to lunch.)
Ge 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into
your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye
shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we
will abide in the street all night.
Ge 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him,
and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake
unleavened bread, and they did eat.
Ge 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of
Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people
from every quarter:
4. When they had not yet retired, and the people of the city, the
people of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, the entire
populace from every end[of the city].
When they had not yet retired, the people of the city, the people of
Sodom: It is interpreted in Gen. Rabbah (50:5) as follows: When they
had not yet retired, the people of the city were the topic of
conversation of the angels, for they were asking Lot about their
character and their deeds, and he told them that most of them were
wicked. While they were still speaking about them, “And the people of
the city,” etc. The simple meaning of the verse, however, is: “and the
people of the city, people of wickedness, surrounded the house.”
Because they were wicked, they are called people of Sodom, as
Scripture states (above 13:13): “And the people of Sodom were very
evil and sinful…”
the entire populace from every end: From one end of the city to the
other, for not one of them protested, because there was not even one
righteous man among them. —
Ge 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men
which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may
know them.
5. And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came
to you tonight? Bring them out to us, and let us be intimate with
them."
and let us be intimate with them: homosexually, as in (verse 8):“who
were not intimate with a man.” - [from Gen. Rabbah 55:5]
(These are wicked men indeed who want to rape angels, but that is the
matter I am looking into now. There Abomination that makes desolate
that was set up in my temple was or is still ploting how to make me
become homosexual prostitute. It is a sin for which it will remain in
a living flesh body in a place without light nor water and air and
gasp and choke and rasp for approximately 100 zillion one hundred
trillion times ten years, and the reason I worry about the American
remnant, they like the men of Sodom are to pay the price for a devil’s
sin?
The scripture states they will be full of knowledge ever seeking never
finding blind and deaf but what I believe is that they need to , like
the men of Sodom reason with me, but America like Sodom will not show
what God need to see for mercy.
It is obviously up to Americans like the angels tarried until evening
I tarry until 2066.6 month. That is a long time in the future in2010
but how long does it take to realize forbidding marriage and food
which is stated to be given by God to good men, is not the providence
of man over man?)
Genesis 19:5 (New International Version)
5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight?
Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
Genesis 19:5 (Amplified Bible)
5And they called to Lot and said, Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know (be intimate with)
them.
Ge 19:6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door
after him,
Ge 19:7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
Ge 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let
me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good
in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing *; for therefore came
they under the shadow of my roof.
Ge 19:9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one
fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we
deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the
man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.
Ge 19:10 But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the
house to them, and shut to the door.
Ge 19:11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house
with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves
to find the door.
Ge 19:12 And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in
law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the
city, bring them out of this place:
Ge 19:13 For we will destroy * this place, because the cry of them is
waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to
destroy it.
Ge 19:14 And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which
married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for
the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto
his sons in law.
Ge 19:15 And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot,
saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here;
lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
Ge 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and
upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the
LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him
without the city.
Ge 19:17 And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad,
that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay
thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
Ge 19:18 And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
Ge 19:19 Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and
thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in
saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil
take me, and I die:
Ge 19:20 Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a
little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and
my soul shall live.
Ge 19:21 And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning
this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which
thou hast spoken.
Ge 19:22 Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till
thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
Ge 19:23 The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.
Ge 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone
and fire from the LORD out of heaven;
Ge 19:25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the
inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.
Ge 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a
pillar of salt.
Ge 19:27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he
stood before the LORD:
Ge 19:28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the
land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went
up as the smoke of a furnace.
Ge 19:29 And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the
plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of
the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.
Ge 19:30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and
his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he
dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
Ge 19:31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old,
and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the
manner of all the earth:
Ge 19:32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with
him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
Ge 19:33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the
firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when
she lay down, nor when she arose.
Ge 19:34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said
unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us
make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him,
that we may preserve seed of our father.
Ge 19:35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and
the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay
down, nor when she arose.
Ge 19:36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their
father.
Ge 19:37 And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the
same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
37. And the elder bore a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father
of Moab until this day.
Moab: This one, who was immodest, publicized that he was from her
father (מוֹאָב-מֵאָב), but the younger one named him euphemistically
(עַמִי בֶן the son of my people) and was rewarded in the time of
Moses, for it is stated concerning the children of Ammon (Deut.
2:19):“You shall not involve yourself in strife with them” at all, but
concerning Moab, He warned them only not to wage war with them, but He
permitted them [the Israelites] to cause them pain. — [from Nazir 23b]
Ge 19:38 And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name
Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this
day.
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