WTA BEIJING 1000

[Miss_Vee]

Draw is out for this tournament.  Sabalenka is making sure that she gives herself a full month off,  before returning at Wuhan where she is defending champion. She withdrew from Beijing, so Swiatek and Coco…who is defending champion, headline this tourney.

Swiatek has Kalinskaya, Osaka and Raducanu in her half of the draw.  Coco has Qinwen Zheng…her first return to competition after right elbow surgery a couple of months ago. Coco also has Rybakina, or Anisimova in her section of the draw.  I hope that Gauff has her serve and forehand improved in the last 3 weeks.  Tournament starts tomorrow night.  Of course the main protagonists will not start until Thursday night or Friday.

[fedexpress06]

Iga wants that #1 ranking and is making sure she plays and wins every fall tournament.  She may pull a 2023 fall season when she swept up everyone and everything. 

[Miss_Vee]

Iga picked up 500 points on the weekend by winning Seoul tournament.  However she remains 2532 points behind Sabalenka.  She would have to win back to back to back tournaments to challenge Sabalenka.  However she would still be about 300 points short.  Don’t think Iga can win all those tournaments in a row.  It will have to come down to the WTA year end final in Saudi Arabia, and Iga would have to win it, or hope Sabalenka loses early.

We shall see what happens in Saudi.

[Miss_Vee]

Gauff has won her first outing in Beijing.  Fernandez took out Sakkhari very easily 2 &1, I think, and will face Gauff in the 3rd round.  

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Looking forward to Gauff-Fernandez

[Miss_Vee]

The WTA is heating it up in Beijing.  Some very tantalizing matches tonight.  Yes, I’m up late…lol.  The weather has been a dream here in Ontario.  We continue to enjoy an extended summer…yay!  

What about you guys and girls south of the border?  

Anyway, tonight we have Rybakina vs Lys, in which the firmer is fighting hard to stay in the tournament.  She has been up and down, in her first 2 matches.  That always happens if she rusty, or tired from playing a lot.  At the moment, she is tired.

Gauff vs Fernandez 

Paolini vs Kenin

Zhang vs Anisimova 

Muchova vs Badosa

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Fernandez is useless. She plays aggressive and if it is not working she goes more aggressive.

[sugarplum876]

lol Sek you know is funny ,she is a tiny little thing in person honestly you use the right word aggression her game is not powerful but aggressive , I know when I saw her she play TT I was more impressed by how composed she was ,honestly there was nothing out of the ordinary from her game. She can improve in my opinion considering her age.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

She could have won that match against Coco but kept hitting UEs, she is fast enough around the court, there was no reason why she was going for the lines every time.

Coco was bad.

[sugarplum876]

Well coco tends to win ugly. lol I’m glad with the outcome. Poor coco .

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Guys watching Amanda gets me excited and takes me back to the old days she is hitting those balls into a future time line out there …. In my head I want to see peak Amanda vs peak Serena but oh well. I just love watching her strike the ball…Okay Amanda think Sabine but show up everywhere not just Wimbledon 

[fedexpress06]

Bianca she needs to shake off pre 2005 Kim slam final nerves.  Otherwise she has the tools. 

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I know FedEx getting over that hump is the whole ball game the sonnee the better 

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Amanda also could benefit from a boob reduction. Don't attack me, lol.

[Miss_Vee]

Sek….no!  I’m not in favour of women exposing themselves to the perils of surgical procedures, when they are young healthy adults.  That thought has crossed my mind also, because anyone can see that she has large breasts.  However I reject the idea, and I’m sure it has crossed her mind also.  I’m sure she is aware that Halep did that surgery.  

However, why should she subject herself to the perils of major surgery. Anytime a healthy person has surgery, the dangers of having general anaesthetic for that surgery, and the surgical complications that can ensue has to be top of mind.  Personally I wouldn’t take that chance.  

[sugarplum876]

Missvee is not 1960…cosmetic surgeries are very safe. Of course anything has risks ;having huge breast causes a lot of discomforts in women.I am all for being comfortable not be concern about my boobs jumping out my tops.

If that girl is comfortable with her pairs then good for her.

[Miss_Vee]

sugar, any surgery carry risks, although  today’s surgeries are safer than even in the 80s.  However, I have had several surgeries myself including 3 Caesarean sections, and I consider those to be safe surgical procedures, done under epidural.  However, when you have to be given general anesthesia, one never knows what can happen.  I have seen and heard of cases…here and also south of border, in young men or women, who are deemed healthy have reactions to general anesthetic, or didn’t survive complications of a surgical procedure, such as throwing an embolus, some days after surgery that took their lives.  Or the person can have a post operative infection, which does not respond to antibiotics. Why do it, if it’s not necessary?!?  

[sugarplum876]

Well missvee I had one and than god it went well, and something I learnt ;is that there are any types of anesthesia, according to the person needs, I’m a small person so I remember when the anesthesiologist told me” you only need a little bit”. That made me feel better. Yes missvee everything carries a risk, but if a breast reduction going to help this girl to advance her career and help with discomfort if something to be considered, just my opinion .

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Miss_Vee, I understand your concern, but let me tell you, if you have not carried big boobs, you do not understand what such women go through. 

Considering, she has all the money she needs to order a custom bra, but still those boobs are the first thing you see when you look at her, then those babies definitely need to be trimmed.

And like Sugar has said, some of these surgeries have advanced so much, doctors will do all the screening and tests necessary before they proceed. 

It would definitely be nice to have Amanda winning a few grand slams, the WTA will benefit.

[Miss_Vee]

I’m seeing that Amanda has more self belief, and now knows that she has become more consistent.  I believe that barring injury, even with the big breasts, she will win a few Slams.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I think Amanda is coming into her own she is beating a lot of these other heavy hitters she is coming …….. 

Guys explain Coco Gauff game and playing style to me it feels like she is always on the verge of losing and has to work hard to win…. Am I wrong?

[sugarplum876]

Ok Bianca, Coco, mental fortitude is her strength though lately she has looked a bit frazzled.i like the kid she is the epitome of professionalism. Now her backhand is very solid, her serve is strong but can abandon her sometimes,the forehand is atrocious . As a whole not the most pleasing game but she is her attitude that makes her a champ.i root for her over any other player, when I watch the ladies,which is seldom. I have to say I will pick only one player over coco and that’s muchova but she is made out of paper.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Bianca, here we go, I will give you my 2 cents on both girls you mentioned:

Amanda: Has a very technically sound game, did not work hard enough when she turned pro and unfortunately, her dad passed away at a very critical time in her career. 

I believe that completely derailed her, she tried to continue to survive with wins here and there, she would give up during matches when things were not going her way. 

Recently, she took several months off tennis and I think that helped her realize she is way better than 99% of these girls, so I think now that she is believing and putting in the hard work, she is beginning to win the matches she should be winning. 

Next step is overcoming the big matches nerves. 

Now, onto our girl Coco. All of us here love Coco, but in different ways we are frustrated. Coco is surviving on athleticism, hard work and mental strength. 

Her game is technically garbage. Only the BH is a reliable shot. Coco won so much when she was a junior, not sure who her coach was back then but they did not put in the time to work on her tools.

Her FH is the one everyone knows they should hit to, 2-3 shots, it will give you a free point. What frustrates me about Coco is she is so much capable of ruling the tour if she could just take like a fall season off and work on her technical issues.

She is always at the mercy of the opponent. If the opponent has brains and is steady enough to find Coco's FH, it is over. She can serve like 10+ DFs a match and still win.

In a nutshell, she is just about staying in the rally and waiting for the opponent to start over-hitting. It is working for her, but she is capable of having all these matches on her racket. 

She is young, so I don't buy the excuse of she can't retool. Sacrifice a year or 2 and enjoy the rest of your tennis career. She is always about to cry in each match due to these technical issues, players should enjoy what they do.

Ok, that is me, a frustrated Coco's aunt who will never be satisfied with the few grand slams she is has snatched from headcase Sabalenka.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Sugar, you summed it up very well. And Muchova is a head case in addition to her glass body.

[sugarplum876]

Sek yours was great as well, I can really hope coco could rebrand her game. maybe she will, all the good things we say about her maturity and she is humble’may have her look outside her circles ,to change some of her technique problems.

[Miss_Vee]

Sek and sugar, your summations of Coco’s game are great.  I love that young woman, but I despise watching her matches.  I’m too frustrated watching her play tennis.  Mary Joe Fernandez, and Chris Evert had mentioned several years ago….she was around age 17 -18, that she would do well to take time off the tour to work on her serve and forehand, because she was so young.  Her parents never followed that advice.

Now we are watching the results of their decision.  I cannot stand watching Coco’s ears hunched up to her neck, because she carries so much stress in her shoulders during her matches.  Her game is ugly.  Leylah Fernandez should never have allowed Coco to win that match a couple of rounds ago.  It’s her mental strength that gets her wins, and eventually GS titles.  Now, she has so many endorsements, that it’s difficult for her to decline the money being thrown at her.

[fedexpress06]

Perfect opportunity for Amanda to win a big title.  Iga got bageled by Emma.  So wrong for that unless severely injured.  Anyway, Muchova played some of the best tennis I've seen in the first set against Amanda but couldn't sustain it.  She really is a modern-day, injured, two-handed bh version of Mauresmo.

[Miss_Vee]

I was shocked when I read this morning that Iga was beaten 6-0 in the 3rd set by Navarro.  Fedex, what I think that we are seeing is the result of fatigue from Iga.  She was making a statement a few days ago that if the WTA doesn’t make changes to the rules next year re: mandatory tournaments that they have to play, she will skip some tournaments.  The players who go deep or win many back to back tournaments, cannot sustain the grind of the tour without fatigue and/or injury.

Emma has had a rough year, going out early in events.  I’m sure she had the energy to take it to Iga in that match last night.  It sounds as if Iga simply faded in the 3rd set.  I suspect that’s the reason that Rybakina lost in the 3rd round.  She had fought hard just to win her first match in Beijing, and was too inconsistent in the 3rd round match.  Energy levels were not there.

[Miss_Vee]

Btw, Sabalenka was smart to skip Beijing.  She had enough points spread from Iga, to take that chance.  While Iga will still be tired in Wuhan, Aryna will have rested a month before the start of Wuhan tourney.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

 I saw the 6-0 and figured Iga had one those anxiety moments where she cannot think but is just bashing the ball in panic. Very random score, considering the opponent.

Now, considering the state of the WTA, why doesn't Navarro win more? She has a solid game.

[Miss_Vee]

Sek, you may have a very valid point in your assessment as to the reason Swiatek lost 6-0 in the final set.  I was listening to a tennis podcast called Christian’s Court, and he mentioned her being rattled about Emma’s tactics.  She said post match, that she became anxious during the match, because she couldn’t figure out how to play Navarro last night.  She couldn’t figure things out, and vowed to calm herself down etc, next time.  So you were spot on about Iga.  I will never understand that girl…lol.  Has nothing to do with fatigue.  These lightweights who call themselves Champions.😂

[Miss_Vee]

Paolini can hang with the best of power hitters, and her forehand is massive.  Anisimova’s slowness of foot is her undoing.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

My girl Paolini owns Coco, but I would rather have Amanda-Coco. 

I thought Amanda would win this easily, but glad she got it done in the end. 

Alright, we got 2 Americans in the SF, I wish it was the final. 

[Miss_Vee]

Anisimova has to learn how to finish these matches in straight sets.  She is going to be exhausted if she makes the final.  She will be facing Gauff in the SF, and it will not be an easy task.  I think Gauff has beaten Amanda every time they have met, so we shall see tomorrow night.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

We got Coco-Amanda coming up. I bet it is going to be ugly. I am here for it.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Amanda came to play up 4-0 already. 

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

winners flying past Coco, who does Amanda think she is, Serena Williams? 6-1 3-0

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Amanda gets broken serving for the match at 6-1 5-0. Coco has consolidated to get 2 games in the second set. Amanda will serve for it again.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

That's it 6-1 6-2. Should have been 1&0.

[Miss_Vee]

Thanks Sek.  Will try and catch video clips.  Happy to see this result, because at some point Coco has to prevented from winning ugly all the time.  Recent tennis watchers seem to think that Coco’s messy service games are ok, and normal.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Sek why did Amanda get up at midnight for Coco? Lol  anyway I’m telling you you guys Amanda is something special just needs a slam under her belt … she hits the hell out of a tennis ball…I agree Miss Vee Coco wasn’t going to get away playing poorly vs Amanda today 

[sugarplum876]

Amanda didn’t wake up, her game is just better than coco’s

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Congrats Amanda but girl you stress me out the way Venus used to lol 

[Miss_Vee]

Congrats to Amanda.  I’m happy that she has finally almost fulfilled that huge promise she showed at age 16 years at Indian Wells, and again in Paris at 17 years.

Will watch the match later.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Miss Vee Amanda is coming ..  she is moving in the right direction the match is on her racket she goes for the winner  and she is building confidence….. Miss Vee where is Moboke haven’t seen her since the USO 

[Miss_Vee]

Unfortunately Mboko injured her right wrist during that SF against Rybakina in Montreal, and still won the tournament with heavily bandaged right wrist.  Although she tried to comeback at the USO, everyone could see that she wasn’t fully recovered from that injury, so she lost easily to Krejikova in the first round.

She entered Beijing where she also lost her first round match, and her play was very hesitant and inconsistent.  So hopefully with time, if her wrist has healed, she will regain the confidence she had at the start of the year and all throughout the summer.  She is in a tough section of the draw I think in Wuhan.  Hopefully she wins her first round match.  Have to look to see her opponent later.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I’m rooting for Molotov I like her game 

[fedexpress06]

Amanda held her nerve in a final.  Hope that means bigger things at slams next year.  Her beating Coco really should be the norm.  

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Why should that be the norm FedEx …Cock is a 2x slam champion she is the real deal

[Miss_Vee]

Bianca, Fedex has a real problem with ugly tennis, and so do I.  Difference is I like this young woman, almost as much as  Sek likes her.  He has adopted her as one of his long lost daughters…lol.   However, like Feddy, I cannot stand to watch her tennis.  I have to turn away, unless she’s playing a top player.  Btw, Sek also wants her to take the time to retool her game, because she also makes Sek want to hurl with her ugly tennis.

[fedexpress06]

That's exactly it Miss Vee.  It's horrible tennis and an indictment on the tour that she wins as much as she does with that game and all those hitches.