WTA Final 2025

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WTA Finals groups are out:

GROUP STEFFI GRAF
Sabalenka
Gauff
Pegula
Paolini

GROUP SERENA WILLIAMS
Swiatek
Anisimova
Rybakina
Keys

Definitely feels like the Serena group is the group of death too many big hitters in one group…. I don’t know what to think… how do you guys feel about this?

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

oh boy. When did Keys last play? Will she really show up?

Paolini is the one everyone wants to face 🤣

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Isn’t that crazy how lopsided these groups are no excuse for Sabalenka and Cock to not do well in that cream puff group … rooting for Amanda but that group is dangerously anyone of those girls can get hot and it’s over 

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Keys might show up to collect first round check and then get injured, hopefully she surprises us but I doubt it. Anisimova is definitely the one to beat in that group. 

Sabalenka should be able to sweep that group, but watch her hit everything outside the double's alley. Coco will find a way to grind it to the SFs.

[Miss_Vee]

Just saw the groups on the WTA website.  I’m totally befuddled by the groupings as well…..lol.  As you said Bianca , the Serena Williams group looks like the group of death.  How did this happen?  No reason for either Gauff or Sabalenka not to get to the semis.

Don’t know whom to pick in the other group….😂

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WTA also released the first two order of plays earlier when they released the groups:

Saturday:
6pm
Keys vs Swiatek
Anisimova vs Rybakina

Sunday:
5pm
Sabalenka vs Paolini
Gauff vs Pegula

5pm for Singles on Monday-Thursday. SFs at 6pm and Final at 7pm.

[sugarplum876]

Hey Bianca I was just thinking,you been here so is so nice to have you,how is your little girl I was like she has to be close or is in elementary?  

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Bianca has at least 2 girls if I remember right.

Hello Sugar, have you been travelling?

[sugarplum876]

What the heck sek? lol 2 girls ,how adorable.

Sek, I have been bad but just a very tough situation with my dad. 

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Sugar I have 2 kids a daughter and son and they are no longer little lol they are growing up and making me like an old lady lol … oh and get this neither of them give a damn about tennis lol………Sugar who do you have coming out of these groups in the final 

[sugarplum876]

Bianca oh my goodness times flies, you feeling old? lol mine turned 22 last month .

B, I don’t watch much of the WTA. I only like 2 players .so if they are not in the tournament I don’t watch. I’m a Serena’s fan 😂

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Sugar, you need to stop with this Serena fan stuff. Get behind a few of these girls and let's have fun. There is Paolini, who are the young USA players apart from Coco? I can't think of anyone. lol

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Sek im nervous for Amanda in this group 

[sugarplum876]

Sek let me be 😂 

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Bianca, I think Amanda will be ok. The good thing is they get to play more than 1 match. If she starts slow, she has another chance to come back stronger in the next 2 matches. 

I am more concerned about Coco, if her game is off, all those girls in her group can take her out.

[Miss_Vee]

I have the feeling that Coco has been quietly working on her serve and forehand recently.  She has to do so, in order to stay at the top of the game.  Let’s see in a couple of days.

[sugarplum876]

Missvee I disagree with the statement about staying at the top of the game, we agree coco has an atrocious forehand and her served abandoned her when that forehand is letting her down.you know what is cocos problem ? Herself; she gets on her own way.what is the one thing we all like about coco.her love and professionalism for the game her never say never attitude, but that last one changed once she put all that weight on her shoulders about having to win ;be the American top female player, being a girl of color who will be compared to her predecessors,Venus and Serena.that became a big thing for coco . She needs to just enjoy the game, open those shoulders and let it ripped . In tennis as many other sports you don’t win everything.coco needs to work on that mental aspect.she looks stressed and sometimes defeated as soon as she steps on that court.Hoping she can get that fixed ,get that energy back and enjoy herself out there.

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https://x.com/reemabulleil/status/1984226849778721110?s=61

Photos of the singles and doubles finalist some of the girls look nice , some look a mess but I’m going to let this be lol

[Miss_Vee]

Paolini looks fabulous!  Love that dress.  WTF is Iga wearing?  She has no sense of style….yuck!

Sabalenka looks great as well. Think I see Rybakina in the background and she also look fab.  Don’t see Coco yet.

Keys needed to wear a different structure of dress….maybe a column dress, or something.  

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On Friday, October 31, 2025 at 11:09:00 AM UTC-4 realtennist...@gmail.com wrote:

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I’m not sure what’s going on but some of these girls in double look like they just gave birth and are nursing a baby 

[Miss_Vee]

Bianca, why do these tennis players not have any sense of style.  Paolini does….after all, she’s Italian.  Actually Maddy looks ok.  Don’t recognize many of these doubles players.some of them look stylish too.
C

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Maybe some of these girls are tomboys at heart and uncomfortable embracing their feminine side … or perhaps their mothers or grandmothers are picking their outfits?

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

lol, you guys are killing me. I don't understand Iga's outfit, curtains? Looks like an outfit made for someone bigger than her. 

Rybakina, that is an outfit I would wear on Saturday, just chilling in my neighborhood. I like it but not for this occassion.

Paolini, yes from me.

Coco, what is that Garbage bag material?

Amanda, hmm...

Pegula and Keys went to the same thrift store, nothing interesting about those 2 outfits.

Sabalenka is ok, she chose something that does her well.

[sugarplum876]

N to the no, who is the stylist of these women, all ugly dresses.

[sugarplum876]

I seem better stuff at Burlington.

[Miss_Vee]

Sugar, it’s obvious that none of them have stylists!   I imagine that many of these girls are not into fashion, or even have any idea how to put together an outfit for every day dressing.  I usually see these girls in sweats or jeans, or shorts.  

Have to cut them slack, because playing tennis is their priority, as it should be during their active careers.

[sugarplum876]

Not cutting them any slacks,but Halloween was yesterday so maybe that was the theme.

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I’m embarrassed for Keys girl withdrawals , get on a plane and take your ass home 

[sugarplum876]

And that’s why I don’t get emotional vested.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

lol, Keys only showed up for this event because hubby told her to go collect the check.

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Right Sek that’s what happens when you marry a former journeyman tennis player you you are his meal ticket 

[sugarplum876]

I will not allowed keys disrespect lol, listen we all saw her talent but she has no heart, she is even lucky to have win a slam. Let her enjoy her marriage even if he doesn’t work hard for the money 😂

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Okay Sugar you are right I support Keys in her decision to be her husband\coaches meal ticket lol ….also Amanda shit the bed in this match I was afraid of this 

[sugarplum876]

Bianca and I repeat,that’s why I can’t watch the WTA .but I actually think rybakina can take Iga out!.

[Miss_Vee]

Rybakina is back to her best self.  She’s playing unbelievable tennis.  When Iga beat her this year twice or three times, she was struggling for form.  Had not been consistent since the end of last year, and was without her “abusive” coach as some people have alleged.

Since the USO, she has been playing extremely well. Iga is also playing well at the moment, so we shall see what happens in a couple of days.

Btw, has Keys withdrawn from the tournament? 😳

[Miss_Vee]

Pegula beat Coco I. The second match today.  Sabalenka won also.  

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Remind me to never watch a Coco/Jessica match guys that wasn’t easy on the eyes 

[Miss_Vee]

Bianca, now you know what we were talking about re:Coco’s game.  Tennis fans everywhere keep talking about her ugly tennis, but she is winning GS titles with that serve and forehand.  I remember Mary Jo and Chris Evert, practically begging her to take at least 6 months away from the tour when she was around 17/18 years old.  They said she was young enough to rebuild her ranking if she went and fixed those 2 strokes at her age then.  Her parents didn’t heed that advice.  Sek had said then that the financial offers were too lucrative for them ignore at that point.  

It’s beginning to cause her match wins.  Sure she win RG this year, and also another tournament in China.  However Mboko destroyed her in Montreal after she had beaten Mboko earlier in the season. She will face more embarrassing losses if that serve isn’t fixed.  She is now becoming mentally frustrated with those 2 strokes.  It wears on her now.

[sugarplum876]

Missvee your girl  rybakina 🔥🔥💥

[Miss_Vee]

I recorded the match.  Watching it in a few minutes.  So happy with this result…lol.

[Miss_Vee]

These top women in the WTA tour have to do something about their first and second serve woes.  It’s dreadful watching Sabalenka and Gauff commit so many double faults to lose games.

[sugarplum876]

Missvee lol what did I tell you? it’s hard to appreciate these ladies when you think about Elena dementievas horrible serve, but she has those lethal ground strokes that make you forget about her serve.these ladies now are just a total mess all around. Nothing fun to watch.

[Notorious S.T.A.R.]

Pp

Please note:

Gauff had 3 double faults today.

Gauff also won 15 of her 20 2nd second serves today (75% win rate on 2nd serves, that is pretty high rate for 2nd serves).

Of the five second serves points she loss today, 3 were double faults (points that she gave away for free).  So that means she only loss two of her second serves points that were in play.  

Paolini was not able to exploit any weakness in Gauff’s second serve, today (or maybe today there was no weakness).

On the other hand, Paolini only won points on 4 of her 19 second serves. Paolini did not have any double faults (no free points give away).  Gauff exploited the hell out of  Paolini’s 2nd serve.

[Miss_Vee]

Paolini really should not be playing in the WTA singles event.  I’m aware that she qualified for singles and doubles event.  However she isn’t playing well in singles.  Don’t know if she and Errani won their matches in the doubles event so far.  She is listless on court.  Should have given up her spot in singles.  

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

lol, you mean just throw away a pay check like she has so much money. Remember Paolini started winning last year and she is almost 30. She needs all these pay checks.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

I didn't realize Iga had become a real ball basher, the difference is she bashes with a lot of spin. 

Amanda gifted that TB.

[Miss_Vee]

lol Sek….re:Paolini.  I just hate to see her not being able to compete with her usual fire.

Iga is at a disadvantage , when she faces pure ballstrikers, who hit the ball flat..

[Miss_Vee]

Amanda can beat Sabalenka if they meet in the semis.

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Bye bitch 
 Thank you Amanda 

On Wednesday, November 5, 2025 at 1:28:19 PM UTC-5 Miss_Vee wrote:

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Amanda is so stressed to watch she stresses me like Venus used to by blowing leads, not capitalizing on opportunities, complicating matches, making things harder than they should be…. She takes me for a ride …not sure what’s I have left for Coco tomorrow running low on chickens to sacrifice 

[Miss_Vee]

LMAO Bianca!  Girl, you are too funny 😂 

[sugarplum876]

Bianca 🤣

[Miss_Vee]

Both Coco and Sabalenka matches are so important tomorrow.  Watch out for some ugly tennis….lol.

On Wednesday, November 5, 2025 at 2:06:06 PM UTC-5 Miss_Vee wrote:

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These matches are so intense who knows which Coco will show will she hit 17 double faults and 45 forehand errors again?

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Bianca, you crack me up. For Coco's match tomorrow, you will need a goat, chickens won't do it. 

Amanda will never forgive Swiatek for that Wimbledon match. I remember thinking to myself, why is Iga fist pumping when she is about to double bagel someone. 

I am still hoping that Coco will fix her game so we can have both Amanda and Coco ruling the WTA.

[Miss_Vee]

Not so fast Sekasi.  Give Mboko another couple of years.  That girl, if she stays healthy, will be in the top 10 before you know it.  Not trying to jinx her, but I see great things ahead for  Mboko, as long as she keeps a steady head on her shoulders.  From what I’m seeing and hearing from her….she seems to be in the right track.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Miss_Vee, Mboko will have to break the Canadian tennis curse. It got Genie, Andreescu, Shapo. FAA is trying to break free, lol

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Seriously guys Amanda stressed me out so bad today I love her game but I can’t trust on the court , she takes me on a ride from hell like Venus and I was so don’t after she gifted that tie break ….. I don’t think I have it in me to deal with Coco and her shenanigans tomorrow Sek you got that.

Guys do me a favor explain Pegula to me how in the hell is she able to beat all these girls and play all of them tough ? She reminds me of a  backboard like Wozniacki but can take the ball early and dictate if needed …. Am I wrong?

[fedexpress06]

Was gone for a bit overseas but back now.  still kept up with scores.  Iga on hard courts is very beatable.  This doesn't surprise me.  Hope Amanda takes the title now.  This could catapult her to greater things next year.  However, Elena is looking like the favorite to me right now. 

[Miss_Vee]

Hi Fedex, so good to have you back.  Hope you enjoyed your trip.  You are quite the world traveller now.  Good on ya!  

I agree that Elena looks like the favourite right now. However, Amanda is playing herself into form, so we shall see how this shakes out.  

Today’s singles matches have to be fraught with tension for all of players, because three of them have a chance of moving on to the semis.  This Is very interesting….lol

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Oh man nervous about this Coco match guys 

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This is a mess 

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So no one is holding serve today I didn’t know Sabkenka could play so poorly 

[fedexpress06]

Bianca, their matchups are very very ugly.  

[fedexpress06]

Gauff needed to win in straights so she's out right even if she wins this match though even that isn't likely at the moment. 

[sugarplum876]

Didn’t she lose already?

[sugarplum876]

The match was ugly coco couldn’t win the first set. And that was all she wrote. 

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Coco really did herself in losing that match to Pegula ….she needs to distance her from Pegula that girl is not her friend 

On Thursday, November 6, 2025 at 11:51:24 AM UTC-5 fedexpress06 wrote:

[sugarplum876]

lol Bianca you are hilarious, they are friends but at the same time they are competitors. Remember when Serena muttered the word byatch to Venus in the 2003 Australian open?😂

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No Sugar there is too much on the line plus time is limited we can be girlfriends when we retire at 35 for now stay over there …..even  Martina had to put space between her and Chris and that’s when she really started beating her 

[Miss_Vee]

Bianca, you may not be aware of this, but Jessica early this year put an end to their doubles partnership.  They remain friends, but don’t play together any longer.  However they have to be pitted in singles tournaments against each other.  Coco doesn’t have to stay away,  it she has to improve that serve and forehand.  Just think how good Coco could be, if those 2 tremendous liabilities in her game just disappeared in the next year or so.

On that topic, in my mind Gauff’s parents pushing her into the WTA at age 15/16 interfered with the normal development in her game.  I believe that although she probably needed higher competition, because she wasn’t strong enough physically, something was compromised in the development of those very 2 important strokes.  Just my guess.

[sugarplum876]

 B, I get it but cocos problem is deeper than her becoming friends and believe I agree with you to some degrees. I always said this once Serena became friendly with some of her main rivals she didn’t play with the same intensity against them as when they were not “friends”. Coco is technique wise.we love the girl but once you nailed her forehand and that shot becomes more unreliable and ugly everything else crumbles. She honestly needs to go back to the drawing board. Her forehand is too extreme ,swing not compact enough .she can’t hit though the ball to save her life .

[fedexpress06]

sugar, except for against Wozzz.  She appropriately whipped that anti-tennis into oblivion.  

[fedexpress06]

Miss Vee, your girl better take out this nonsense tennis Pegula displays.  Bianca, re: your statement about Pegula and wozzz.  I think her style is more like Bouchard meets Zvonareva ( a lesser Zvonareva).  

[sugarplum876]

Fedix 😂🤣

[Miss_Vee]

Well Fedex, Rybakina did exactly what you said earlier.  I just returned home to catch the end of the match.  Rybakina needs to completely reverse that H2H that Pegula has on her.  Jessica got those wins before 2022 or 2023.  Last two meetings ( this result included), Rybakina has won them both.  Maybe it’s now like 5-4 in Pegula’s favour.

Was hoping to see Rybakina in the final, because she has been playing so well after the USO.

[Miss_Vee]

Anisimova is so tough!  What a difference in Amanda from 2 years ago.  She has really come into her own.  Plays with so much confidence now, and her game is so fun to watch also.  Always loved her game since I first saw her at age 16, when she beat Kvitova 6-4, 6-4 at Indian Wells.

[Miss_Vee]

This is a dog fight between Sabalenka and Anisimova….lol!

[Miss_Vee]

Anisimova is winning this match!  Of course I should not being counting Aryna out yet….lol.  Both girls are now bringing their best in the 3rd set.

[Miss_Vee]

Oh no!  Anisimova lost her serve to go down 3-4.  This match is crazy!

[Miss_Vee]

Damn!  Sorry guys…did I jinx Amanda?  She had the momentum!  

Next year Amanda!!

[Miss_Vee]

Both Rybakina and Sabalenka deserve to be in the final, because neither have dropped a match heading into the final match tomorrow.  Undefeated champion walks away with over $5 million dollars in prize money.

[Miss_Vee]

I’m sure everyone has seen the tape on Rybakina’s right shoulder, which has been used as protective measure, in the last couple of days.  I think she has played every tournament since Beijing.  She also said that she never expected to reach the final in Riyadh…lol.  Just heard that she’s now concerned about her right shoulder,,and hopes that she will not make it worse by playing tomorrow.   Anyway, she’s hoping that her physio can help her to recover by the time the match begins tomorrow.

[Miss_Vee]

Just watched Rybakina and Pegula match.  Rybakina doesn’t usually have so many UE, and I think the shoulder had a lot to do with it.  Hope that’s she is able to play a good final tomorrow.  At least with her UE, her game is so buttery smooth, I didn’t even notice the errors. She had 36/winners….15 aces….lol.

Pegula had 9 winners 41 UE.  If she had won this match, I would have disowned Rybakina as a fan.

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Here we go again apparently Amanda and Sabkenka are “friends”  girl this girl has beaten you in in the USO final and WTA semis you need to hate her the same way see red when Iga is on the other side of the net. This isn’t Best Friends Association it’s the WTA this is competition….. what am I missing? 

On Friday, November 7, 2025 at 7:13:30 PM UTC-5 Miss_Vee wrote:

[Miss_Vee]

Really Bianca?  I wasn’t aware that they are “friends.”  Mind you, I suppose Amanda can speak and understand Russian even though she was born in the U.S.  Her parents must speak Russian.  Her sister was born in Russia.  Sabalenka is from Belarus, and they all speak Russian.  Amanda will win the next one. Amanda seemed to fade away in the end.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

I can't be bothered about this final. Amanda needs to work on her mental state in these big matches. Give Serena a call.

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I’m with Sek I don’t give a damn who wins …. If Amanda doesn’t learn how to close out these big matches she will end up like Nadia Petrova or crazy Vera 

[sugarplum876]

Ohhh sek you mentioning Serena?☺️😂  see these girls suck .serena will be like 😒

[Miss_Vee]

Well y’all!  I’m thrilled that Rybakina won today.  I’m watching the recorded match now. Fedex, you called it.  You said that Rybakina looked the best all tournament….in fact, leading up to Riyadh, she was on a rip and a tear.  Everything came together for her at season’s end.  Her stats were terrific today, unlike yesterday.  She definitely deserved the title.  Congrats to her.  Love her game….her personality?!?  Whatever.  We all can’t have everything…..lol

[Miss_Vee]

WTA players that I’m going to be rooting for in 2026 are Mboko, Fernandez, Osaka, Anisimova, Rybakina….not necessarily in that order.  However Mboko tops the list now.

[Miss_Vee]

Oh, cannot forget Andreescu.  Still would like to see her come back all the way, but I’m cautious now, because she is injured too often.

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The reason I’m so interested in Amanda is because her game reminds me of me of the WS she doesn’t have their speed ,movement or mental toughness however off the ground she is there … I love watching her hit .. the velocity,the power, the ability to to hit a winner off anything , the angles the match is always on her racket to win or lose solely because of her gifts I love it …. I just need her win one of these major finals next time she is in one ……not as invested in Coco because she has 2 slams she has nothing to prove…. Amanda still has the pressure of winning a slam on her shoulders 

[Miss_Vee]

I hear you Bianca, because I have been always interested in watching Amanda play tennis.  Love her game.  When she went through that awful period after her Dad’s passing, she was a mess, and she had lost me for a nanosecond.  However, after she took time away from the tour and returned refreshed, and now she is here….in the top 10.  Very happy for her,  I’m excited for 2026.

[Miss_Vee]

Oh man!  I heard on a tennis podcast that Rybakina had refused to take a congratulatory picture with the WTA CEO, who would have been standing between her and Sabalenka.  Oops….now the incident in which Vukov was banned as a coach for several months, has reared its ugly head again.  Omg!  I had almost forgotten about it.  Rybakina just needed to take the pic.  Good lord!  Now I’m reminded again about the reason that I had taken a step back from her, because I thought she downplaying the abuse.  I have to say that since he was re-instated as her coach, I don’t see behaviour that we were all witnessing ourselves, from his behaviour in the stands 2 or 3 years ago.

I hope that she is in a good place mentally and physically, because she seems to be back to the person whom the tennis world expected to have a substantial impact on the sport.  We shall see what transpires in 7 weeks.

[fedexpress06]

You know what, to each their own.  seems like Vukov couldn't have been that bad since her mental state and mood seemingly improved when he got back in.  It's a weird dynamic they have going on