Cincinnati 2025

[Miss_Vee]

This tournament started the same day the Canadian Open finished.  That’s crazy.

It’s heating up starting today in Cincy, with the stars scheduled to play.

Swiatek vs Potapova

Sinner vs Galan

Sabalenka vs Vondrousova 

Fritz vs Nava

Ruud vs Rinderknech 

Fernandez vs Bouzas Maneiro

Keys vs Lys

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Thanks for the update Miss_Vee. This year, the Canada Open completely over-shadowed Cincy. It feels like we just got out of a GS and we need time off.

Lineup looks good. Will try to catch some of the matches.

[Miss_Vee]

You’re welcome. Isn’t that the truth about the Canadian Open.  Great tournament, even if I don’t like the format.

Btw, I will miss most of the action today.  Have my granddaughters for the weekend. 

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Miss Vee do you know what happened to my guy Milo’s Raonic?

[sugarplum876]

Bianca he was just not that good, got injured and was not able to get back to the average player he once was 🤪

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I had hope for him after the Wimbledon final I figured if Marion Cilic could win a slam Milo’s was good enough to snag one as well 

[fedexpress06]

Lol Bianca!! Cilic really maximized his talent especially considering all the injuries he had too.  He came back and randomly beat Tiafoe last year I think in Canada and then disappeared with another injury.  Cilic was more well-rounded and was equally dangerous off both the fh and bh whereas Raonic had a horrendous bh.  

[sugarplum876]

Bianca, I agree with fedix, Marin actually had a nice game. Milo’s was very stiffed in my opinion, big serve , decent forehand .seems like a nice person but me personally never saw anything special about his game.

[fedexpress06]

Meant to say raonic maximized his talent and beat Tiafoe lol!

[Miss_Vee]

Milos Raonic is a very nice guy, and a tennis player who would be consistent after his rise.  Not a great athlete however, and was hampered by injuries which derailed his career.  Hasn’t played in about 3 or 4 years now.  Hasn’t officially retired yet. Tried returning at Wimbledon 2024 unsuccessfully.  He is now 34 years old.

[Sekasi_ChangeIsComing]

Cilic still hits a very good ball. Remember how he gave a whooping to home boy Draper at Wimbledon.

I agree with Fedex, Raonic completely maximized his talent. Even without injuries, his body structures did not allow him to add any more finesse to his game.  

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Home boy Draper are talking about Novak?

[Miss_Vee]

Coco continues to struggle with DF that costs her games, but usually prevails against lower seeded opponents, even some higher seeded opponents.  She just coughed up 3 DF to give the break back in the first set.  Old story.

Navarro is struggling a lot this year.  Maybe she has fallen out of top 10 at this point, which is not a surprise.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Wait what happened to my girl CiCi Bellis??? 

[fedexpress06]

She retired due to injuries and occasionally has done TTC commentary.  She's a maga twat though so fuck her

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Oh yeah maga she can kick rocks along with Isner,Mattel-Sands,Vandeweghe,Sock and while I don’t know for a fact but wouldn’t be shocked James Blake lol

[Miss_Vee]

Speaking of MAGA dummies, don’t forget about Alex Michelsen.

[Miss_Vee]

Btw folks, I cannot believe there are only 6 days between the end of Cincy tournament and the USO.  Honestly, I think the tours are asking for  trouble.  I can foresee players trying to protect their health, and not risk injury by withdrawing from some tournaments.  

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I have literally stopped associating and cut off friends , neighbors,stopped doing business with with maga people so I have no issue blacklisting tennis players over that. I want zero to do with that kind of person

On Sunday, August 10, 2025 at 7:42:33 PM UTC-4 Miss_Vee wrote:

[Miss_Vee]

I’m still in disbelief over what has happened in the U.S. MAGA and Trump are an abomination to the entire world.  However I feel so much empathy for half or more of the electorate who didn’t ask for this evil that has been thrust upon them.  

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I’m no longer shocked or surprised Miss Vee… when people show you who they are believe them….. what you are seeing is what a majority of this country believes ….. at least the majority that votes. I will also tell you this when you do clownery the clown comes back to bite.

[Miss_Vee]

Bianca I hear you loud and clear.  However from what we see on non legacy media, a lot of people didn’t understand or know exactly what they were voting for, when they voted for him.  They have ended up realizing that they a case of FAFO, and I don’t dare try to explain that term on this forum….😂😂

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Miss Vee the people you speak of are full of shit and not even worth the effort we are taking to type about them.

[Miss_Vee]

Ultimately Bianca, it’s done now.  Hoping that he is gone in 3 and a half years. 

[Miss_Vee]

Tomorrow’s lineup looks interesting 

Sabalenka vs Raducanu 

Fritz vs Sonego

Rybakina vs Mertens

Sinner vs Diallo

Kalinskaya vs Anisimova 

Fonseca vs Altmane 

[Miss_Vee]

Here watching the last set of Sabalenka vs Raducanu, and they are into the third set,  Raducanu finally has won a set facing Aryna, whose decibels keep increasing with urgency to win this encounter.

[Miss_Vee]

I’m aware that Sabalenka is WTA No 1, but her tennis isn’t aesthetically pleasing to the eye.  I will stop nick picking now.😂

Anyway Emma is ready giving Aryna a run for her money in this third set. On serve 4-3, with Raducanu to serve.

[Miss_Vee]

Just saw a video clip of Vicki Mboko being celebrated on one of our local stations in Toronto for winning NBO.  The entire country is so proud of her.  You bet that everyone in Canada will have eyes on her during the USO.  She also admitted on that interview that the USO is the GS title she covets most.

[Miss_Vee]

Raducanu pushed Sabalenka all the way to a 3rd set tiebreak, which Sabalenka took in a very close score there.  Emma should do okay at the USO.  Hopefully she will not meet Sabalenka in an early round…lol.

[fedexpress06]

Raducanu is getting closer to beating Sab. Problem with these girls is that they can lose to Kamila Rakhimova 2 and 2 whereas Sab will consistently be in the latter stages of a tournament. 

[Miss_Vee]

I agree Fedex about Emma R.  Did you see that marathon game in which Raducanu held her serve?  That took guts…lol.

[Miss_Vee]

Gauff has gone to the 4th round via a walkover.  Don’t know the reason yet that Yastremska withdrew from the match.

[Miss_Vee]

I think I saw a message from the tournament requesting the crowd to leave the grounds because of an impending storm in the area.  Wow!  It’s beastly hot here in Toronto also, with rain expected tonight.  Cannot get into this tournament really.  

[fedexpress06]

Keys and Rybakina with some heinous 1st-set stats.  combined 17 winners and 56 UFEs.  Miss Vee, Felix has actually won a couple of matches in a tournament lol.  

[Miss_Vee]

Fedex, it was bad!!!😂😂😂.  I think they cleaned the match up a bit in the second set.  Rybakina is threatening to break Maddy as they slowly clunk their way on to the finish line…lol.  Think Keys is slightly better than Rybakina.

[Miss_Vee]

Fedex, I think Fritz is going down to Atmane.  Just had his serve broken in the 3rd set.

[Miss_Vee]

I was wrong about the quality in the match picking up.  Yeck!  Rybakina 58 UE; Keys 65 UE.  Didn’t watch much of the match tbh.  Rybakina is pissing me off too…😂

[Miss_Vee]

Not a happy camper at the moment.  Denis keeps breaking my heart.  I don’t know how to be half in, half out with tennis players,  I’m usually all in.  That’s my personality.  I’m going to stick with Fernandez, BB Andreescu, and Victoria Mboko ( with some caution on the latter pick.  Hasn’t proven anything yet.)

[Miss_Vee]

So many players retiring injured from matches here in Cincy.  USO is around the corner.  What an abysmal tournament in Cincinnati.   Khachanov just retired in his match against Zverev. Tiafoe retired earlier today against Rune.  A few more retired yesterday.

[sugarplum876]

Unfortunately these  crop of players as much as we like some of them are very fragile, physically and mentally,I will continue to blamed social media, many people are starting to capitalize on it, they only  need to post pictures of a day in their lives and they get pay for it,so why work?.i know I may sound old but I like grinding I like working, I like feeling I earned that cash, not just by posting food and what sunblock ,or foundation I use today . Different days for sure, how I miss the 90’s

[Notorious S.T.A.R.]

Sugarplum876 wrote: "Unfortunately these  crop of players as much as we like some of them are very fragile, physically and mentally,I will continue to blamed social media, "

-------

You will come across the same type of comments in threads about other sports, (especially when talking about NFL and NBA.).

Many ignore that base truth. That is that athletes today are stronger, faster, heavier and train harder than athletes did 30 years ago.  And this puts a much greater stain on their bodies.

As far as the mental part, well social media seems to rot everyone's brain.

Sugar wrote: " i know I may sound old but I like grinding I like working, I like feeling I earned that cash, not just by posting food and what sunblock ,or foundation I use today  "

------

Did anyone here fife music playing in their head, while reading this part??  (ok, ok, I doubt any of you will get that reference)

[Miss_Vee]

Sugar, are you referring to my statement about players retiring from Cincy?  Or to mental health struggles by Osaka, and other tennis players?  

If you are referring to the players retirement in matches in Cincy, I’m not surprised one bit.  Extending Masters tournament to 12 days, and having Cincinnati starting the last day of Canada tournaments, is madness.  The brutal heat players have been subjected to from D.C to Canada to Cincy have taken a tremendous toll on these athletes who have gone deep in all of them.  Even for some who lost early, who may have nursing some minor injuries, and don’t want to risk then worsening before USO, is understandable.

[Miss_Vee]

O.m.g!!  Felix is going to be bagelled by Sinner in this first set.🙄

[sugarplum876]

Missvee they have gotten rid of some of the summer swing tournaments, Indiana RCA , ,which I recalled they went to Atlanta  or something like that.new heaven to name a few . Players are soft now. Period.

[Miss_Vee]

Sugar, I disagree with you.  The tour is too rigorous now.  We watched Roger especially carefully manage his schedule in order to avoid injury. Nadal was always nursing an injury and didn’t really have to complain about it. Roger and the top guys took time off after GS tournaments, so they did not succumb to serious injury.  They still had some niggling stuff when they were playing.  I have been noticing the changes mounting year after year, and not in favour of players.  I can remember Andy Murray before he was injured calling for changes which allowed players more time to rest between tournaments.  In absence of that, they need a longer break at the season end.  Roddick and numerous others called for the same thing  Don’t forget….I'm a retired person…lol.  Have lots of time 

[Miss_Vee]

I was listening to Andy Roddick’s podcast after Wimbledon in which he and Chris Eubanks were discussing the changes in the men’s game.  The physicality is off the charts, the guys are hitting the ball harder than ever before and keeping it between the lines.  They also mentioned the upswing in injuries, because these players are coming out of their shoes when they hit the tennis ball.  

It’s taking a huge toll on these players.  There have always been injuries, but this spring/summer many of the top guys, excluding Sinner and Alcaraz have been injured.  Fils, Draper, Ruud and others.  All top players have their own physios to take care of their bodies ….yet, they have become injured, and need several weeks to recover.  It’s not as simple as “these players are too soft.”  That goes for the WTA also.

[sugarplum876]

Missvee and we can agree to disagree, all all I agree with your comment is how all of the gas muscle the balls like we never seen before, also the technology is different.

Stronger players physically but mentally they are a mess.

[Miss_Vee]

In the mental area sugarplum, we are in total agreement..😂

[fedexpress06]

Rybakina dismantled Sab today.  could watch Elena serve all day when she is playing well.  Love that serve.  Hard to see Iga beating her if Elena plays the way she did today 

[fedexpress06]

Carlos makes tennis look so easy.  He gets bored I'm convinced. 

[sugarplum876]

A 100 percent fedix imagined if tennis was his job😂

[Miss_Vee]

I saw Rybakina lose her mind in that match.  She played so well today facing Sabalenka.  She had 3- 3 setters leading into this match,which must have prepared her for today..  Her serve was firing, and her groundies spot on.  She was up at the net as much as possible.  She was awesome today.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Ben went down easily hope he’s just tired from playing so much rooting for him going into the USO 

[fedexpress06]

Ben plays his best at majors.  Why does Coco struggle against Magui Serna I mean Tamarine Tanasugarn I mean oh that's right Jasmine Paolini. Not Errani-level bad but close. 

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Is this for real? This girl beat Coco with 7 winners? 18 double faults that takes me back to Sharapove post shoulder surgery 

[fedexpress06]

And Bianca Coco l is a two-time major winner with that serve smh lol.  Unreal.  and to win a match with 7 winners and 44 UFEs?  How can anyone say this is high-quality tennis.  Disgusting.  I take back what I said earlier, this is Errani-level bad. Except Errani didn't hit this many UFEs in her prime though she still  is arguably qualitatively the worst top 5 player and slam finalist in modern history. 

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

FedEx next time Coco gets double digit double faults, I’m going to need you to walk her off the court,to the car that will take her to the airport and get her the hell out of there. Don’t worry about your prize money we are donating it to help feed the hungry…..who is this girl who won’t a 3 set match with 7 winner ? That Errani kind of stuff lol

[fedexpress06]

During your tennis retirement, this girl made the finals of RG and Wimbledon back-to-back last year.  I kid you not Bianca.  She is like Errani in her style of play.  Maybe and I emphasize maybe, a bit better bc she has more pop.  

[Miss_Vee]

Fedex and Bianca, that picture of the stats you posted, is now the reason I cannot watch Gauff’s matches anymore.  I mean, I’m forced to when she gets to quarters, semis and finals.  During RG final, I couldn’t watch in the 3rd set.  Gauff survived that final, because she was mentally stronger than Sabalenka.  Neither player showed good play because the conditions.  The messy final was one of the worst that I had ever seen in these many years.  What is worse also, is that Gauff has become comfortable, or so it seems, with winning ugly.

[Miss_Vee]

I hope that this player Atmane, who was been knocking off top seeded players, will nit present too many problems for Sinner, who seems to be off form a little bit.

Match coming up soon.

[fedexpress06]

Sinner-Alcaraz part 14 tomorrow.  Iga and Elena are hitting the hell out of the ball.  

[Miss_Vee]

Iga has become better playing Rybakina on hard court.  Rybakina isn’t as strong mentally as Swiatek is my assessment of their rivalry, and also not as athletic.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I’m assuming Iga is a big deal considering she is a multi slam winner , however I do have a question does she have a history of doping?

[fedexpress06]

She tested positive for a substance not used in the US for treating chest pain.  basically improves oxygen delivery to the heart and the rest of the body and blamed in on melatonin.  Take that for what its worth 🤣

[fedexpress06]

having said that, given how sensitive these doping tests are now, it is possible that minute, negligible amounts of contamination is possible and can cause false positive results.  Maybe I should not be as hard on Halep then but her case was a very specific drug which showed up, not a metabolite lol

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

Ok I’m not getting behind her I don’t support dopers never have never will is that doper Haley still out of the sport ?

[sugarplum876]

lol Bianca I’m with you. I’m done with Iga.her gamesmanship is terrible too,

[Miss_Vee]

Really Fedex?  I thought that the substance that showed up in her body was contained in melatonin she had bought in the States, and she had thought it was safe to take….being melatonin.  I’m not really sure of the story any longer.  

[fedexpress06]

Yes that's the story out there Miss Vee.  For what it's worth, the pharmaceutical company affiliated with that formulation of melatonin did indeed say their sample did get some contamination so it exonerated Iga.

[realtennist...@gmail.com]

I always tend to believe where there is smoke there’s fire dopers are very good at formulating stories, getting others to lie and cover for them after Lance Armstrong I no longer believe in serendipity

[Miss_Vee]

It doesn’t really matter to me anymore.  I did like Iga when she first started on tour, but now I fell out of like with her…lol.  I like her consistency, but not her gamesmanship tendencies.  When it’s all said and done, I continue to love Rybakina’s game style, Osaka, Fernandez, Andreescu, Andreeva, and now Mboko.

[Miss_Vee]

Sinner vs Alcaraz.  Cincinnati men’s final.  Who ya got?!?  I’m watching the entire match.  Not nervous for anyone.  Have no favourites here.  Happy for either player.

[Miss_Vee]

Sinner broken at love.  Carlos 1-0, to serve.

[Miss_Vee]

Sinner doesn’t have a serve.  Cannot find a first serve.  Carlos is running away with the first set.  So I’m wondering what’s wrong with Sinner.  Carlos has come out firing on all cylinders.

[Miss_Vee]

Sinner retired sick from the match.  I can see that he cannot compete.  He said he tried for the fans, but couldn’t continue with the match.  What a shame!!  Dammit I was looking forward to another epic.  So Carlos is the champion.

[Miss_Vee]

Not really interested in the WTA final.  Swiatek will smoke Jasmine Paolini in str8s.

[Miss_Vee]

Turns out that Paolini was very competitive in that match vs Iga.  It was tight for 2 sets at least.  Anyway, look out, because Iga has gained confidence in playing on fast hard courts now,  USO will be very interesting now.  Many contenders on the WTA side.  Sabalenka can only meet Iga in the final. They are No 1 and 2 respectively once more.

[sugarplum876]

 🥱