Non-Binary WITH Gender Reporting Too

[Julie Stark]

What is everyone doing in races that have non-declared (non-binary) entries, but the overall race still wants results posted by gender, with non-binary shown as such? It appears that RD still wants it to be an all or nothing setup. thanks. 

[bnh...@comcast.net]

I had this same situation. With an additional twist. They set up the registration site with 5 or so choices for "gender", one was "Choose not to say". Between 1/3 and 1/2 selected that option. Then with two weeks to go before the race, they state on their website and updated the registration page to say that overall male and female winners would get trophies.

When I asked about how they intended to determine those places, they asked if I had any suggestions. I told them that I will print out the overall finishers list not showing genders and they can take care of the selection.

I explained the limitations of the software stating that this is all new territory and what works today may not work tomorrow so it is almost impossible to try to configure software to meet every variation that you hear about today.

Good luck

[bnh...@comcast.net]

Thinking about this some more, if you can get their "declared" gender (M, F or N-B) into an optional data field then you would be able to generate a spreadsheet of the results with that "new" gender column then sort on that column. If using RSU as the registration platform, you can easily pull all the participant data in as a spreadsheet then set up the "gender" column to be imported into RD as the optional data field. Then once you have the results from the race, you can generate the results  sorted by that new gender field.

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021 at 3:42:19 PM UTC-5 Julie Stark wrote:

[Roger Bradshaw]

Race Director will always have limitations with regard to this topic.  Gender is a very major part of any race scoring software.  Race Director has had a binary gender structure since its inception in 1989.  For 30 of the 32 years that I've developed RD, every component of the 250,000 plus lines of code in RD depended on a binary structure.  This cannot be changed without a full re-design.  

There is a very limited approach now to non-binary in RD, but it's important that you understand the limitations.  If you're able to isolate both the registrations and results for the non-binary participants, you can limp by with Race Director.  Until you've got a good grasp of what is possible and not possible, I suggest you use Help -> Support well before your race (as Julie has) so that we can look at your setup and advise you on the best possible setup.

The same goes for Race Day Scoring - which is quite a bit more flexible than RD and will have better and better ways of dealing with this topic as time goes on.