Sam Harris- Stem Cells and Morality

[Raum Sariel]

This is an awesome thought provoking short clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUwnMX8ht3U

Love and Light,
Raum

[Nicola (Nee-ca-la)]

This correlates with another hot topic of discussion, which I won't
get into at the moment, but is very closely related. I'll be curious
to see if/how others respond. For me personally, I support the
research.

His discussion on Misconceptions About Atheism is thought-provoking as
well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLIKAyzeIw4&NR=1 Great stuff to
be watching first thing in the morning to get the brain circuits
awakened.

Thank you for sharing this, Brother Raum!

In light always,
~N

[Raum Sariel]

Bro.Nikki,
Yes, Sam Harris Misconception About Atheism is one I have pointed to
many times when faced with the assumptions by many Freemasons that
Atheists are barred from tracendental experiences.

Ilike Sam Harris a lot. He presents his arguments in a very calm and
rational manner. He tends to get people to think instead of just riled
up.

Love and Light,
Raum

[William Calvo]

Holla

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[Raum Sariel]

Hello Trish,
First of all welcome to the Outer Court. It is my hope that you will
dive right in and start many an engaging conversation.

I apologize for not answering you sooner. Yesterday was my
daughters 13th birthday and I am still attempting ( some would
say in vain) to adjust. :)

I come from a little bit of a different viewpoint on this specific
topic. I am from a family with more than it's fair share of
geneetic problems on my mothers side. If there is a chance
that stemcells are as they are being hyped I do get excited
about the prospect. At the same time I am skeptical because
I realize that healthcare in this country is a business. We all
know the profit is in the treatment and not the cure.

I am also staunchly pro-choice.

Are you sure about the Japanese being able to create stem
cells? If you are that is very facinating. i know in Japan they
have not used human blood for transfusions for over two
decades. I wonder how we can be so far behind the curve?

Love and Light,
Raum

On Jul 3, 9:52 pm, Trish <thirteencopp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Raum,
>
> This is a thought provoking short clip, it made me think about when
> John the Baptist stirred in his mother's womb when she was near Mary,
> who was carrying Jesus in her womb.
>
> It also made me think of how, in America, some demand magic be made
> from the spark created by two distinct cells which merged causing
> one...that spark, an embryo, that one an embryo.
>
> It is not religion that causes me to see darkness in embryonic
> stemcell research.
>
> In Japan, they have come up with a way to create any cell, including
> stemcells, but they do not use human embryos to do so.

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[Raum Sariel]

Trish,
Thank you for posting that article. very interesting and I wish I
could say
I was surprised.

Abortion is a pretty hot ticket, it will probably continue to be so. I
agree
that there are consiquences to actions. I am just not a big fan of
the
average Joe Taxpayer having to pick up the slack of teenagers having
babies through entitlement programs.

Thank you so much for the birthday wishes, we cannot have too many
people on this world that wish us well.

Your posts are because you are a new member that Google leaves your
posts up to moderation. The only two moderators are myself and
Worshipful
Sobek. I have taken you off of moderatated status but for soe reason
the system
is still moderating you. i am trying to fix it and I appreciate your
patience.

Love and Light,
Raum


On Jul 5, 12:49 pm, Trish <thirteencopp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Raum,
>
> I am staunch pro-choice, as well--If you make the choice to have sex,
> then you realize you can create life by doing so.  ;)
>
> By the way, I'm not sure if you realize this, but aborted fetuses are
> used as well for stemcell research (if you want, I can give you
> research links, etc, to such works).
>
> As for Japan, I found this information (below).  Sad thing about
> fighting for funding for embryonic stemcells, is that now, that this
> is approved, the research has to focus, myopically, in that area--
> embryonic stemcell.   Meanwhile, the physical world of science goes
> flashing by.
>
> Synthetic Chemicals Used To Create Pluripotent Stem Cells From Adult
> Cells
>
> June 9, 2008
>
> Scientists at The Scripps Research Institute report that they have
> significantly improved upon a revolutionary technique that uses genes
> to turn skin cells from an adult back into pluripotent stem cells.
>
> In the June 5, 2008 issue of the journal Cell Stem Cell, investigators
> describe for the first time how they identified and used small, drug-
> like chemicals to help coax mouse brain cells back into pluripotent
> stem cells in a way that reduced some of the major drawbacks of the
> technique developed two years ago by Japanese researcher Shinya
> Yamanaka to produce pluripotent stem cells, once derived only from
> embryos, from adult cells. The new findings provide a safer, more
> efficient method to reprogram cells, paving the way for clinical
> testing of reprogrammed stem cells.
>
> "This shows that we can make cell reprogramming technology much more
> practical than it has been," says the study's lead author, Sheng Ding,
> an associate professor at Scripps Research and a chemist who studies
> stem cell biology. "These advances will bring us closer to the day
> when we can use these powerful cells to make any kind of human tissue
> that we need to help patients."

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