LA X

[Dan D.]

In case anyone forgot this discussion group exists (b/c I almost
did)... it exists!!! I am sure there will be some epic (and just
perhaps, sadly, some not so epic) things to talk about beginning this
evening. Psyched!

To get the ball rolling... any thoughts on the premier episode title:
"LA X"? LAX, of course, is the LA airport, but LA space X is
different. It could just be a tease... or???

[Katie R]

LA Ten, like the Oceanic 6?

I am beside myself with anticipation for this evening!

[khar...@aol.com]

Will Sayid be the reincarnation of Jacob???!!?!?!?!!

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[matan...@gmail.com]

I was wondering that after Sayid woke up, considering Jacob was so
adamant about saving him...

Also, anyone have any insights regarding the alternate no-crash
reality?

[David Coleman]

I think the alter-timeline Oceanic 815 Lostees are just that. They
are now living on a new splice of time AND space. 2 planes of
existance cannot exist in the same space. I would certainly like to
see how the writers tackle space and time. Time travel is
mindboggling enough, but to add a whole new "Sliders" style space
continuum/alternate universe leads to a whole new level of mind-fuck.
Again, Desmond is going to be the key to deciphering what has
happened, since he is the only constant.

[Katie R]

I was telling Dan today that my theory is that these two parallel
universes will eventually converge, so that all the characters will
eventually meet the same fate. You can't fool destiny.

Also, the Man in Black was the smoke monster? WTF?

On Feb 3, 8:27 pm, David Coleman <davidcolema...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the alter-timeline Oceanic 815 Lostees are just that.  They
> are now living on a new splice of time AND space.  2 planes of
> existance cannot exist in the same space.  I would certainly like to
> see how the writers tackle space and time.  Time travel is
> mindboggling enough, but to add a whole new "Sliders" style space
> continuum/alternate universe leads to a whole new level of mind-fuck.
> Again, Desmond is going to be the key to deciphering what has
> happened, since he is the only constant.
>

> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, matanul...@gmail.com

[Katie R]

Favorite recap thus far:
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2010-02-03/lost-season-6-premiere-recap-doubling-up-all-the-loose-ends/

[jason neroni]

im thinking the whole thing is kind of like that movie Momento, we are watching the ending from the beginning. there is no alt time frame they are running congruently to maximize there drama potential. the whole thing happening on the island actually happened a well as the landing of LA X. we have to wait and see how the whole thing plays out.

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[wesley gunn]

I had the same thought. I'm sure something will happen in the next ep to change my mind like usual. I am curious tho, the fake JL said he wanted to "go home"...? Right?

What the hell does that mean?

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[matan...@gmail.com]

When he said that, I thought of Ben Affleck's character (Bartelby) in
Dogma. Now I'm not saying the island is an afterlife (I reeeeeally
hope it's not), but perhaps it is transitional point
between...something? Bartelby needed a loophole to get home to a
dimension he was banished from, perhaps Jacob/Fake JL have been in a
similar situation?

[Bryan Dunn]

I think a lot of people had that biblical parallel (Jacob wrestled the angel and the angel was overcome, Lucifer cast out of heaven, etc.).  Honestly, I think I'd be fine if they didn't wrap up the origins of the two specifically.  It'd be enough to say that Jacob & Flocke (Fake Locke, which I read somewhere and kind of liked) are two of a kind, not from around here, and related to the island in someway.  That would allow for a 'spiritual' kind of interpretation (the island as a cage for the devil) or a sci-fi interpretation (alien prison).  If you get too explicit with that answer, you're likely to alienate some or part of the fanbase, because they'll lose interest based on that point rather than the arc of the story as a whole.  We need some more info on the two, of course, but I'm fine without the full backstory.  Actually, the angels vs. aliens idea (and those aren't the only two possible interpretations, of course), kind of lends itself to the fate vs. free will the show has been toying with the entire time (angels implies a higher power controlling our destinies, aliens implies everything has been happening as a logical result of technologies we don't understand, not because there's a guiding hand).  

The structure of the show itself has now gone into the grey area between science and faith with the two parallel timelines.  It's kind of an illustration of Schrodinger's cat, the quantum mechanical thought experiment.  If you don't know what it is, check out the wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrödinger's_cat

Besides being another variation on the Magic Box idea, it's important to know that from our current theory of science, the cat is both alive and dead.  Not one or the other, but both.  The only way that this situtation is resolved is with the direct observation of an outside observer (lifting the box and looking at the cat).  So who on the show so far is independent of the timeline?  Desmond.  

And the timelines will converge at some point, as Katie mentioned.  Faraday used the analogy of throwing small stones vs. a boulder in the stream as a way to disrupt the flow of time.  And boulders will disrupt the flow, granted, but a large enough river or stream (or a small enough boulder) will reconverge after hitting the boulder, although it will flow separately around the incident.  

I also think that the island storyline is going to center on resolving mostly mythology points of the show, where the reboot of the 815 story is going to be character-centric.  But when the two points catch up to each other (probably in one  of the last few episodes of the season), stuff happening in the alternate timeline will matter to the outcome of the show.  

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[matan...@gmail.com]

I agree with you. But to be clear, I wasn't trying to argue for a
biblical parallel. The Dogma example was simply a way to illustrate my
point and question. I find it hard to believe that faith will have a
large role in the shows resolution, but that's just me...