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Feb 5, 2013, 4:42:10 PM2/5/13
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Hello,

11 In the seminar, in the introduction to the lesson of 13 May 64, Lacan refers to a text of Edward Glover entitled "Freudian or neo-freudian". I've done some research to find it, but without success. Can someone tell me where is it possible to get the text, or maybe send me a copy ?

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L Combres


Bonjour,

Dans le séminaire 11, en introduction de la leçon du 13 mai 64, Lacan fait référence à un texte d'Edouard Glover intitulé "Freudian or neo-freudian". J'ai bien fait quelques recherches pour le trouver, mais sans succès. Quelqu'un saurait-il me dire où est-il possible de se procurer ce texte, ou peut-être m'envoyer une copie ?

Cordialement,
L Combres

Julia Evans

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Feb 6, 2013, 3:38:45 AM2/6/13
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This is the nearest I can get to it on a quick search:

Glover E. 1961 Some recent trends in psychoanalytic theory : Psychoanalytic Quarterly : Vol 30: p86-107

I will try and get a copy of it.

The following is from Wikipedia - sorry Bruno!:

In the thirties, Glover found himself increasingly opposed to the innovations and influence of Melanie Klein, who found 'from 1934 onwards, a hostility within the British Psycho-Analytic Society' led by 'Glover [who] was scientific secretary of the British Society'[12] - hostility which lasted for the best part of a decade until the 'vituperative opposition from Edward Glover and Melitta Schmideberg had vanished when Glover gave up his membership of the British Psycho-analytical Society in 1944'.[13] At this point, Glover declared that 'The British Psycho-Analytical Society is no longer a Freudian society...deviation from psychoanalysis';[14] and the following year, the fundamental Kleinian position paper by Susan Sutherland Isaacs on "Phantasy" was publicly 'attacked by Glover (1945)',[15] in the first volume of The Psychoanalytic Study of the child, where he described what he called "the Klein System of Child Psychology" as 'a bio-religious system which depends on faith rather than science...a variant of the doctrine of Original Sin'.[16]
In the following decade, Glover turned his fire from Klein to Jung: his book, ' Freud or Jung? (1956) is a partisan Freudian - though...defensible - polemic'.[17] In it he argued (incidentally) for the firm conceptual separation of art and psychopathology. 'Glover put this view most trenchantly: "Whatever its original unconscious aim, the work of art represents a forward urge of the libido seeking to maintain its hold on the world of objects...not the result of a pathological breakdown'.[18]
In the 1960s, Glover aroused the ire of Lacan by way of his attack on Franz Alexander's concept of the corrective emotional experience: 'When I read in the Psychoanalytic Quarterly an article like the one by Mr Edward Glover, entitled Freudian or Neo-Freudian, directed entirely against the constructions of Mr Alexander, I sense a sordid smell of stuffiness, at...Alexander being counter-attacked in the name of obsolete criteria'.[19]
Glover's sterling early work with Jones in the BMA in obtaining the so-called "Psycho-Analytical Charter" - 'Edward Glover and myself had for over three years fought at heavy odds against our twenty-five bitter opponents'[20] - should also not be forgotten.

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Julia Evans

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Feb 13, 2013, 5:47:01 AM2/13/13
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Hello,

Further information though no satisfactory solution
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The Edward Glover article from 1960 Psychoanalytical Quarterly (see last message) is available here:  http://www.mediafire.com/view/?rcelr38pi2yrf53   

Now this article does not mention Alexander though it shows Glover's style of critique very clearly.

It is possible that Jacques Lacan made a mistake as it is difficult to find any references except the Lacan quote to Glover's critique of Alexander.

Below please find a link to the complete index of Psychoanalytical Quarterly which is available free to anyone with an 'academic' institution address.  If you do download the index I would like a copy, please.  There may be a further article which details this debate.

Also below please find a biography of Alexander with the web-address where it is to be found.

Also, below is a reference to a book edited by Alexander which contains an article by Glover.  As this was published in 1966, it is probably not the attack to which Lacan refers.

I would be interested in the results of any further sleuthing on this reference which is reproduced below.

Julia

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When I read in the Psychoanalytic Q.uarterly an article like the one by Mr Edward Glover, entitled Freudian or Neo-Freudian, directed entirely against the constructions of Mr Alexander, I sense a sordid smell of stuffiness,at the sight of a construction like  that of Mr Alexander being counter-atacked in the name of obsolete criteria. Good Heavens,I did not hesitate to attack it myself in the most categorical way fourteen years ago, at the 1950 Congres of Psychiatry, but,it is the construction of a man of great talent and when I see at what level this construction is discused, I can pay mysel fthe complement that throughout the misadventures that my discourse encounters,here and certainly elsewhere, one can say that this discourse provides an obstacle to the experience of analysis being served up to you in a completely cretinous way.

(Can't be bothered to put the spaces in the following…. )Atthispoint,Iwilresumemydiscourseonthedrive.Iwas ledtoaproachitafterpositingthatthetransferenceiswhat manifestsinexperiencethenactingoftherealityoftheun- conscious,insofarasthatrealityissexuality.IfindthatImust pausehereandaskmyselfwhatthisveryafirmationinvolves.

Ifwearesurethatsexualityispresentinactioninthetrans- ference,itisinsofarasatcertainmomentsitismanifestedin theopenintheformoflove.Thatiswhatitisabout.Doeslove representthesumit,theculminatingpoint,theindisputable factor,thatmakessexualitypresentforusinthehereandnow ofthetransference? 

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The Psychoanalytic Quarterly Cumulative Index to Volumes I-XXXV, 1932-1966

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Edward Glover 'Psychoanalysis England' Franz Alexander, Samuel Eisenstein and Martin Grotjahn Editors: Psychoanalytic Pioneers NY basic books 1966
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Berlin’s First Student - Franz Alexander 1891-1964

Franz Alexander, a brilliant creative teacher and organizer, director for 25 years of the Chicago Institute, the first Professor of Psychoanalysis at the University of Chicago, was an enemy of dogmatism and a defender of analytic innovation. His concept of a “corrective emotional experience,” although criticized, suggested that early experiences can be corrected by new experiences in the therapeutic situation. Alexander never suggested manipulation or role playing but was a forward thinking innovator. 

Born in Budapest, the son of a distinguished philosophy professor, Alexander graduated in 1912. At the Berlin Psychoanalytic Institute, his talents were immediately recognized. He rejected an offer by Freud to become his assistant, instead he left for the Chicago Institute, which was modeled after Berlin. Freud later referred to him as his most brilliant student in the United States. After a year at the Center for Advanced Study in Behavioral Science, he spent the remainder of his life in Los Angeles where, as Professor of Psychoanalysis at the University of Southern California, he worked to integrate psychoanalysis and psychiatry.

Alexander co-founded the journal Psychosomatic Medicine in 1939. A prolific writer, his published works include: The History of Psychiatry (1966), Psychoanalysis of the Total Personality (1930), The Medical Value of Psychoanalysis (1936), Psychoanalytic Therapy: Principles and Applications (1946), Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy (1957), a semi-autobiographical study The Western Mind in Transition (1960), and The Scope of Psychoanalysis 1921–1961: Selected Papers of Franz Alexander (1961).




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