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Kris Crawford

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Jun 7, 2007, 9:30:37 AM6/7/07
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Okay, Steve said I should post this or everyone to read so they would know. Okay...here it is...
 
Hephaestus would have been truly traumatised over the loss of Jack. Seeing the 2nd person he considered a friend die...it would have hit him like it did when he lost his parents. The funeral pummeling, he would have let anyone beat him. At that point he would not have cared. Now the suit...he will not hand it over to anyone except orman, and even then it would be reluctanly. He feels that the attack comming from a career criminal like Dragonfly is laughable at best...but he did have a point. At this point he would want to do something...but would not know how to go about it. He is really considering taking the suit and leaving for a while. Get some help...and either rejoin the immortals if they would have him...or make a life for himself. He really would understand if they asked him to leave and not return. However...he will not leave the suit. He would rather dismantle it and melt it down than give it up...again, except to ormand.  The whole Jack comming back to life...that would have just floored him. And seeing how Jack was given a second chance at life, he would think that maybe he can do something about his. Inquire with ormand about a safe rehab place he could go to and get better. One that fixes the body, mind AND soul. I don't know how much abuse he would be willing to take, but he does not have the willpower really to defend his actions now. Even though Jack came back...he did die and was lost. After the beating verbally at the mansion that night, he would take the suit and go for a trip, leaving his immortals com behind so as to not be traceable. Only telling Ormand he is going to clear his head. And do just that. Fnd the highest altitude he can get to within two hours max. flight speed that noone else is even near and sit there contimplating and meditating (strange I know...but he is clusless) and try to think and clear his head. And while in the suit...break down and let it out. That way he can get it out of him and clear his mind. I think at this point everything in his life that has happened would come flooding back to the surface. But that night...he is determined to not drink. He would leave all his money and credit cards back at the mansion.

david.langevin.01

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I guess this happens before Hephaestus flies away:

"What's going on, James? There seems to be some tension between the new
members... Do you think we should find out what's going on?"

assuming Marduk says yes, Jack begins asking around...

To William: "Seem like you got hurt worse than me... care to talk
about it?"

If there is no or minimal response from William, Jack will leave with
these parting words: "We'll, in case you need to talk, or care to
share, I'll be staying in for a while and don't mind the company."

after leaving William, Jack heads to Moira.

To Moira: "How's our patient?" Afterward inquiring about Marduk/James,
Jack begins another topic of discussion with Moira - "Looks like Will
has a few bruises... perhaps you should look in on him and see what you
can do about those..." If Moira has some information to provide, Jack
continues discussing the matter with Will to her and anyone else
around. Otherwise if she seems unwilling to provide a detailed account
of the time after which Jack fled the scene, Jack moves on to the next
person.

To Dragonfly (sorry I forget your hero's name): "I appreciate the
effort you made to protect my family... I heard you tried to warn them
away from harm." If Dragonfly wants to discuss anything about the fight
with Tusk (or after that), Jack is ready to engage in a dialog.

To Mysteryman (sorry I forget your hero's name too): "Thanks for saving
my Mom. I don't understand why Tusk wanted to come to the funeral, but
it appears he really needed to be there. I wonder what that was all
about".
If conversation is shifted to the post battle intervention that
dragonfly attempted, Jack says "I think you did the right thing by
trying to compromise between the 2. In today's society, accidents from
impaired judgments are not well tolerated. I think I can understand why
Dragonfly was adamant about not letting him fly... we don't allow
pilots to get behind the controls of a plane, and put them in jail when
they do so. Just imagine what the public would do if they found out
that Heph has been flying around drunk. Who knows what would happen?
He could fly into another plane full of people, or crash into a high
rise building, or take out a bridge... People are taught today to try
their best to stop their friends from driving while impaired. I think
that Dragonfly might have lost sight of what the goal was, since I
believe you were willing to 'port Heph here."

I'm willing to continue the dialog or drop it as the case may be.
Please feel free to respond to my email, in part or whole. Otherwise,
I'll assume Heph flies away.

Kris Crawford

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Jun 8, 2007, 1:00:13 PM6/8/07
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Hephaestus would talk, but most would come out
sounding like gibberish due to the intoxication, as
well as sobs. But, what would be garnered from it
would be...

"I don't know what to do man. Everyone I get close to
ends up dead. First my parents, then a co-worker then
C-4" At that he begins sobbing even more fore a while.
"I blew him up. I blew up the only person that until
then made an attempt to try and make me laugh. I blew
up the funniest man and friend I have ever known"
breaks down crying again. "The pain...it kills me to
walk out of the suit, and after what happened with
C-4, the bottle helps dull the pain. And did you know
my leg's fucking possessed? It is man...ask anyone."
More sobbing. "I just don't know what to
do...everything I do seems to just fall apart. I try
to do the right thing and secure the suit from the
Tarot and what happens...C-4's death. Because I tried
to do the right thing. So I pull in and force myself
into work and what happens...Jack dies." More sobs. He
looks up and looks inquisitively...who are you again?
I can't seem to remember your name. Sorry...breaks out
in more sobs. And ormand...you wanna talk about a good
man...he is the only one whose opinion truly matters
to me, don't get me wrong...(more sobs) Jacks, and
marduks does as well, but Ormand...the man gave me a
home, and a job and a chance to do what's right." More
sobs. And what do I do...go and fuck everything up. I
ams urprised that I have not been reported missing yet
to be honest. I don't want to hurt people, I do want
to do what's right...but until the institute here, all
I have had since my parents passed away was money and
jobs and technology. I love building things man..."
More sobs and tries standing but collapses. "I can't
do anything right when not in the suit. God the
pain...have any motrin? No...can't go there. Oh well.
You know...I don't blame dragonfly pounding on me. I
really don't. To be honest man, I wish he just would
have breathed on me and been done with it. At least I
would not have been a burden any more. NO! I can't
think like that. But a career criminal giving me a
lesson in morality...you wanna talk about a joke. I
just don't if the joke was that...or me. I need a
walk. Oh god...I think I am going to be sick..." Gets
up and stumbles to the bathroom. "Okay...better." I am
going to go for a walk to clear my head.Stumbles to
the suit and just slumps down against it and sobs
more.
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Moira smiles slightly at Jack. "Things are going well. I've been checking in on him. He's doing well and is healing nicely. I could heal his bruises up now if he wishes it or it is needed. But it seems that he wants to heal naturally. It should only take another day or so for him to be completely well. As to Hephaestus.....I'm not sure what to do. He does need help and in a big way. But I am not a psychologist so I can not help with what ever problems he is having. If he wishes to talk I can always listen and offer advice. It seems, however, that he has finally realized that he does have a problem. That in and of itself is a major step toward his recovery.
 
Looking him over, "I might ask  you the same question. HOw are  you feeling? And I understand why you may want to keep your current status a secret from your loved ones, but since your ex-girlfriend knows, might others know also?" after a few moments, "I was going to ask you if you would be willing to allow me to run some tests on you. I am very curious as to how the event has changed everyone  and you have made be even more curious given what you have just done." she waits for him to answer her

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if moira is around him when he says all of this she listens quietly. After he is finished and is next to the suit she walks over to him and sits down next to him. After a few moments she places her hand on his shoulder.
 
"I am Moira. We met briefly. I do not know all of the pain you are dealing with but I know some of it. I know what it is like to loose loved ones. My own parents died many years ago when I was much younger. I know what the pain of being so different that people make fun of you is. It is not easy to be 12 years and a junior in high school. I also know what it is like to cause the death of someone, especially someone you were trying to save. I've done it. It was not intentional but it occurred." she pauses for a moment.
 
"For whatever reason all of us have been given great gifts. How we choose to use them is up to us. I do not know how your suit works or why it causes you pain. Perhaps the drink helps dull the pain, however, the drink has become an enemy. An enemy that you need to fight. I am a biogeneticist. Perhaps if you would allow me to run some tests I can see what, if anything, I can do for you. It is up to you. If you continue to drink to excess you will end up doing more harm than good not only to those you love and care for but yourself. Think on it. I will be checking on Marduk if you wish to talk to further." she sits for a few more minutes then will leave him to think on her words.

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The suit does not cause the pain...my leg does. I
received an injury to it as a child. I am just a
normal non-super...no powers. The suit helps relieve
the pain on the leg. The suit is just a muscle and
neurological amplification system. That's all.

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Jun 8, 2007, 1:48:35 PM6/8/07
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my response embedded.

Kathy Ewan wrote:
> Moira smiles slightly at Jack. "Things are going well. I've been
> checking in on him. He's doing well and is healing nicely. I could
> heal his bruises up now if he wishes it or it is needed. But it seems
> that he wants to heal naturally. It should only take another day or so
> for him to be completely well. As to Hephaestus.....I'm not sure what
> to do. He does need help and in a big way. But I am not a psychologist
> so I can not help with what ever problems he is having. If he wishes
> to talk I can always listen and offer advice. It seems, however, that
> he has finally realized that he does have a problem. That in and of
> itself is a major step toward his recovery.

I meant about the beating he took from dragonfly. I agree that his
other problems might be more than we are skilled to handle, but as I
understand it, there is a treatment program medically available to those
with the disease of alcoholism. If his problem is medical rather than
psychological, I'd imagine you might be able to help him in ways that
others of us can't.


>
> Looking him over, "I might ask you the same question. HOw are you
> feeling? And I understand why you may want to keep your current status
> a secret from your loved ones, but since your ex-girlfriend knows,
> might others know also?"

Not sure about who knows what... however, it's unlikely that the world
at large knows and to the extent that it is possible to suppress this
truth, I'd rather we keep it that way. I'd rather not have targets
painted on to my family's homes, and persons, if I can avoid it. Plus
there's no sense in provide more distree to the emotional rollercoaster
that must be happening on my loved ones. Physically, on the whole, I'm
much better. I think if I should ever be burned badly again, I'd like
to have an epidural please. It was dark in that coffin and I couldn't
see what state I was in before, but the agony was beyond words. I guess
in the future, we should really avoid cremation, just in case. Aside
from that, I've notice that I'm constantly restless now. I relax only
to get fidgety. I find my sleep requirement is much less than what I
used to need.

> after a few moments, "I was going to ask you if you would be willing
> to allow me to run some tests on you. I am very curious as to how the
> event has changed everyone and you have made be even more curious
> given what you have just done." she waits for him to answer her

Sure. When we have some down time, I'd be happy to take whatever tests
you'd like.

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To Heph (with Moira present, if she wants to be):

"William, pull yourself together!! Self pity isn't helping.
"It's not your fault about C4. To say he's dead is premature; think
about it. We found no residue of him at all! I think if you feel
guilty about igniting his blasting power, you are taking on
responsibility that you otherwise deserve. C4 made the choice, in the
fullness of his own capacity, to sacrifice his wellbeing to save our
lives. It was his plan to clear the debris, with the fashion he was
most familiar. For all we know, the elements that comprise the body of
C4 is collecting in some water table coalescing into the person we
knew. He may have had abilities and powers that were kept secret from us.
"I'd rather think that C4, and any other person who makes such a
sacrifice, would be tragically disenchanted to see the state in which we
find ourselves today. When all is said and done, we need to carrying on
as heroes, ESPECIALLY in the light of heroic sacrifice. To do anything
less tarnishes the sacrifice made on our behalf and blemishes the
purpose of our deeds.
"If you need help, consider asking for it, rather than hiding in shame.
Who best to support you in your time of need than those who can
understand you the best? If you want to be part of the team, share with
us, rather than hold us apart.


Kathy Ewan wrote:
> if moira is around him when he says all of this she listens quietly.
> After he is finished and is next to the suit she walks over to him and
> sits down next to him. After a few moments she places her hand on his
> shoulder.
>
> "I am Moira. We met briefly. I do not know all of the pain you are
> dealing with but I know some of it. I know what it is like to loose
> loved ones. My own parents died many years ago when I was much
> younger. I know what the pain of being so different that people make
> fun of you is. It is not easy to be 12 years and a junior in high
> school. I also know what it is like to cause the death of someone,
> especially someone you were trying to save. I've done it. It was not
> intentional but it occurred." she pauses for a moment.
>
> "For whatever reason all of us have been given great gifts. How we
> choose to use them is up to us. I do not know how your suit works or
> why it causes you pain. Perhaps the drink helps dull the pain,
> however, the drink has become an enemy. An enemy that you need to
> fight. I am a biogeneticist. Perhaps if you would allow me to run some
> tests I can see what, if anything, I can do for you. It is up to you.
> If you continue to drink to excess you will end up doing more harm
> than good not only to those you love and care for but yourself. Think
> on it. I will be checking on Marduk if you wish to talk to further."
> she sits for a few more minutes then will leave him to think on her words.
>

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Kris Crawford

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"I know you are right, it's just tough to accept it. I
mean...I don't know what I mean anymore. I suppose you
are right though...but what I wouldn't do to have him
come back though. Hmmm...it's possible I suppose. Just
seems...you're right. As usual." Gets up and hangs on
the suit to support himself. Then goes to his
cupboards and pulls out his bottles, walking to the
bathroom and begins pouring them into the bathtub one
by one. When done..."May I have some privacy
please...I just need to get my thoughts together."
"And man...Thank you"
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Thinking for a moment. "then perhaps we can work up a smaller version or something else that you could wear when not in the suit that provides the same relief from the pain." she muses

Kris Crawford <dracogu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The suit does not cause the pain...my leg does. I
received an injury to it as a child. I am just a
normal non-super...no powers. The suit helps relieve
the pain on the leg. The suit is just a muscle and
neurological amplification system. That's all.

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"david.langevin.01" <david.la...@gmail.com> wrote:

my response embedded.

Kathy Ewan wrote:
> Moira smiles slightly at Jack. "Things are going well. I've been
> checking in on him. He's doing well and is healing nicely. I could
> heal his bruises up now if he wishes it or it is needed. But it seems
> that he wants to heal naturally. It should only take another day or so
> for him to be completely well. As to Hephaestus.....I'm not sure what
> to do. He does need help and in a big way. But I am not a psychologist
> so I can not help with what ever problems he is having. If he wishes
> to talk I can always listen and offer advice. It seems, however, that
> he has finally realized that he does have a problem. That in and of
> itself is a major step toward his recovery.

I meant about the beating he took from dragonfly. I agree that his
other problems might be more than we are skilled to handle, but as I
understand it, there is a treatment program medically available to those
with the disease of alcoholism. If his problem is medical rather than
psychological, I'd imagine you might be able to help him in ways that
others of us can't.
 
(Moira)
 
"perhaps. But he will want to have to attend the programs. I don't think they will work if we force him. One thing though, if he does agree to attend a rehab, that we may be able to do here. That way we can help monitor the pain control." she looks away for a moment, "I wonder what caused the injuiry in the first place?"
 
----

>
> Looking him over, "I might ask you the same question. HOw are you
> feeling? And I understand why you may want to keep your current status
> a secret from your loved ones, but since your ex-girlfriend knows,
> might others know also?"

Not sure about who knows what... however, it's unlikely that the world
at large knows and to the extent that it is possible to suppress this
truth, I'd rather we keep it that way. I'd rather not have targets
painted on to my family's homes, and persons, if I can avoid it. Plus
there's no sense in provide more distree to the emotional rollercoaster
that must be happening on my loved ones. Physically, on the whole, I'm
much better. I think if I should ever be burned badly again, I'd like
to have an epidural please. It was dark in that coffin and I couldn't
see what state I was in before, but the agony was beyond words. I guess
in the future, we should really avoid cremation, just in case. Aside
from that, I've notice that I'm constantly restless now. I relax only
to get fidgety. I find my sleep requirement is much less than what I
used to need.
 
(Moira)
 
"hmmm.........that is interesting. The restlessness could be a result of the trauma of waking up in a coffin......." she muses
 
-----

> after a few moments, "I was going to ask you if you would be willing
> to allow me to run some tests on you. I am very curious as to how the
> event has changed everyone and you have made be even more curious
> given what you have just done." she waits for him to answer her
 

Sure. When we have some down time, I'd be happy to take whatever tests
you'd like.
 
(Moira)
 
"Thank you. Then if you like let's start now. The first round of tests I would like to take is a blood sample and other standard tests such as blood pressure. Then I would like to expand that to include a stress test, ekg. One of the things I would like for you to do is wear a heart monitor around the house for a few days. The information that would give might offer some insight to your abilities and your restlessness." she replies
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"david.langevin.01" <david.la...@gmail.com> wrote:

To Heph (with Moira present, if she wants to be):

"William, pull yourself together!! Self pity isn't helping.
"It's not your fault about C4. To say he's dead is premature; think
about it. We found no residue of him at all! I think if you feel
guilty about igniting his blasting power, you are taking on
responsibility that you otherwise deserve. C4 made the choice, in the
fullness of his own capacity, to sacrifice his wellbeing to save our
lives. It was his plan to clear the debris, with the fashion he was
most familiar. For all we know, the elements that comprise the body of
C4 is collecting in some water table coalescing into the person we
knew. He may have had abilities and powers that were kept secret from us.
"I'd rather think that C4, and any other person who makes such a
sacrifice, would be tragically disenchanted to see the state in which we
find ourselves today. When all is said and done, we need to carrying on
as heroes, ESPECIALLY in the light of heroic sacrifice. To do anything
less tarnishes the sacrifice made on our behalf and blemishes the
purpose of our deeds.
"If you need help, consider asking for it, rather than hiding in shame.
Who best to support you in your time of need than those who can
understand you the best? If you want to be part of the team, share with
us, rather than hold us apart.
 
(Moira)
 
"I do not know what happened with C-4, but I do agree with Jack that it is not your fault. We also do not know everything about these powers we have been given. It is well within the realm of possibility that C-4 could still be alive. To add to what he said, to hold things within can only lead to other problems. The drinking is one of them." she adds in a slightly quieter tone





Kathy Ewan wrote:
> if moira is around him when he says all of this she listens quietly.
> After he is finished and is next to the suit she walks over to him and
> sits down next to him. After a few moments she places her hand on his
> shoulder.
>
> "I am Moira. We met briefly. I do not know all of the pain you are
> dealing with but I know some of it. I know what it is like to loose
> loved ones. My own parents died many years ago when I was much
> younger. I know what the pain of being so different that people make
> fun of you is. It is not easy to be 12 years and a junior in high
> school. I also know what it is like to cause the death of someone,
> especially someone you were trying to save. I've done it. It was not
> intentional but it occurred." she pauses for a moment.
>
> "For whatever reason all of us have been given great gifts. How we
> choose to use them is up to us. I do not know how your suit works or
> why it causes you pain. Perhaps the drink helps dull the pain,
> however, the drink has become an enemy. An enemy that you need to
> fight. I am a biogeneticist. Perhaps if you would allow me to run some
> tests I can see what, if anything, I can do for you. It is up to you.
> If you continue to drink to excess you will end up doing more harm
> than good not only to those you love and care for but yourself. Think
> on it. I will be checking on Marduk if you wish to talk to further."
> she sits for a few more minutes then will leave him to think on her words.
>
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way to go dude!!
congrats
 
kathy

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> To Dragonfly (sorry I forget your hero's name): "I appreciate the effort you made to protect my family... I heard you
> tried to warn them away from harm." If Dragonfly wants to discuss anything about the fight with Tusk (or after that), Jack > is ready to engage in a dialog.

(His name is Cooper Jones. Coop)

"Was just the right thing to do, man. Don't worry about it. The whole
sitch-uation bothers me, though. Why this Tusk guy come to your
funeral? What was up with the mind-switching? Why ain't ya dead? I
mean, no offense. I'm glad ya ain't, but I've seen charbroiled bacon
looked better than you did." Coop just shakes his head, "Whole thing's
wierd and there's more questions than answers. Got trouble answering
reg-u-lar questions without the wierd ones."

To Mystery Man:

Coop will approach MM a day or so after the funeral.

"I wanted ya to know I apprec-ate your position with the whole drunk
Hephastus thing. Ain't easy trying to keep the peace. Haven't lost my
temper like that in a long time." He smiles, "You're a pretty stand-up
guy. Guess that's cause of when ya'll from. Or something. I'm sorry I
didn't cool down earlier. Thanks."

To Hephastus:

This'll happen a few days after (or at the next opportunity after a
period of cooling down).

"Don't worry. I ain't gonna whomp ya." Coop tries to smile but the
joke falls flat. "I'm here to apologize. I shouldn't have hit ya. I
don't know how to explain how mad I got 'cept to say this. See, this
is my last chance. Not just to stay out of the joint but to make up
for the bad things I done in my life. It means the world to me that a
team as classy as this one let's me hang with them, ya know? I dunno.
Maybe it was seein' a guy who has so much smarts acting so dumb and
screwing up his life like I did mine. Or maybe it was being afraid
that without guys like Jack around I'd fail and end up a total loser
in life. Whatever, man. I'm just saying I'm sorry I hit ya." Coop
stands up. "You're a smart guy. Behind the doc you're probably the
smartest guy I ever met. Don't waste that, man. World needs smart guys
to make the stuff that'll save lives and make things better."

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