This weeks Torah portion

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Jul 20, 2007, 4:34:06 PM7/20/07
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Hi there,
I see we have a couple of new members to the list. Welcome. Not sure
what, if any, direction this group will go in, but feel free to jump
in at any time with comments and observations.

This weeks Torah portion is Deuturonomy(D'varim)chapters 1-3. Haftorah
is Isaiah 1. NT is 1 Timothy.

An interesting observation as you read about who gets to come into the
promised land. See if you 'hear an echo' in the latter part of Isaiah
7.

Shabbat shalom
Michael

Alchemist

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Jul 21, 2007, 4:40:57 PM7/21/07
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Shalom, I need to baptize. I want to go Jordan
with my girlfriend to visit and baptize there :) .

Michael Ramp

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Jul 22, 2007, 1:10:35 PM7/22/07
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Ok, Leandro, when do you plan on going there?

There is a place on the Jordan that is setup for specifically that reason. Very nice place, no charge for access either.

I'm in the states right now, but if we could coordinate when you will be there, I'd be honored to be in attendance for it. Let me know your plans.

Michael




 

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>
> Shalom, I need to baptize. I want to go Jordan
>with my girlfriend to visit and baptize there :) .
>
>
>


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snezic

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Jul 23, 2007, 6:12:04 AM7/23/07
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Hello Michael,
Im the girlfriend of Leandro, thank you for the "welcome" :)..
Hopefully we will go next year to Jordan.
Ive just wanted to say hello, and send my greetings.
Indeed, I would like to talk about your topic,
but my viewings r based on feelings and dreams.
So I want to ask you something; I was dreaming two days before,
Yeshua. And I want to paint it. Some months before Ive been also
dreaming him with a woman in a dessert. But I couldnt paint it. Could
it be a reason for it why I cant paint it?
Also when your talking about the end and the begining. Do you know
something about "enuma elish", and if yes, how would u interpret this
story?
Sorry my english is sometimes bad, so hopefully Ive written everything
understandable, if not, let me know :)
Greetings

Snezic


On Jul 22, 7:10 pm, "Michael Ramp" <witnessn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, Leandro, when do you plan on going there?
>
>
>
> There is a place on the Jordan that is setup for specifically that reason. Very nice place, no charge for access either.
>
>
>
> I'm in the states right now, but if we could coordinate when you will be there, I'd be honored to be in attendance for it. Let me know your plans.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
> http://witnessnbr1.blogspot.com
>
> http://ferventheat.blogspot.com
>
>
>

> From:Alchemist <lmda...@gmail.com>
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> >
> > Shalom, I need to baptize. I want to go Jordan
> >with my girlfriend to visit and baptize there :) .
> >
> >

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Michael Ramp

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Jul 23, 2007, 1:35:45 PM7/23/07
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Hi Snezic and welcome to the group, such as it is at the moment<g>

Abba willing, I will be there next year when you come to the land. Between myself and Sarit, my fiance, we can show you some of the great things that are in the land.(Sarit is an Israeli believer).

As for your painting of Yahshua with the woman in the desert, just picture the tabernacle and the tribes in the wilderness, as given in Exodus. Its the same picture.

I don't know what 'enuma elish' is. Can you post it here, or post a link to it? Thanks.

Your english was just fine. You did good.

Shavua tov(Good week)


From: snezic <biz...@hotmail.de>
Subject: {the-end-and-the-beginning:6} Re: This weeks Torah portion
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:12:04 -0000

>
>Hello Michael,
>Im the girlfriend of Leandro, thank you for the "welcome" :)..
>Hopefully we will go next year to Jordan.
>Ive just wanted to say hello, and send my greetings.
>Indeed, I would like to talk about your topic,
>but my viewings r based on feelings and dreams.
>So I want to ask you something; I was dreaming two days before,
>Yeshua. And I want to paint it. Some months before Ive been also
>dreaming him with a woman in a dessert. But I couldnt paint it. Could
>it be a reason for it why I cant paint it?
>Also when your talking about the end and the begining. Do you know
>something about "enuma elish", and if yes, how would u interpret this
>story?
>Sorry my english is sometimes bad, so hopefully Ive written everything
>understandable, if not, let me know :)
>Greetings
>
>Snezic


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Alchemist

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Jul 24, 2007, 3:55:57 AM7/24/07
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Wow, I did not know they have a place specialy to baptizing in
Jordan. Have you ever been there Michael?
I prayed to God to send someone to baptize me, I've been to
some churchs and told them many times I want to baptize but they don't
care much. when I saw the new 7 wonders winner, there were Petra and
it came to mind mind "Jordan river" , so I thought that's where I want
to baptize.

I'm passing through some problems now that, I need to go to
Bosnia but they don't give me visa if my USA residence status is
Illegal. I can only apply for a USA visa in 10 years, and big chance
I won't get it. So I kind of know not what to do now. but still
searching if I find a little door. I writing this in case you or
someone have any knowledge of this kind of immigration issues.
I want to go to where my girlfriend is so we can get
married.


Is everything fine with you Michael? where are you living now? I
live now in New york.


On Jul 22, 1:10 pm, "Michael Ramp" <witnessn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, Leandro, when do you plan on going there?
>
> There is a place on the Jordan that is setup for specifically that reason. Very nice place, no charge for access either.
>
> I'm in the states right now, but if we could coordinate when you will be there, I'd be honored to be in attendance for it. Let me know your plans.
>
> Michaelhttp://witnessnbr1.blogspot.com
>
> http://ferventheat.blogspot.com
>
>
>

> From:Alchemist <lmda...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To:the-end-and-...@googlegroups.com
> To:The end and the beginning <the-end-and-...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject:{the-end-and-the-beginning:4} Re: This weeks Torah portion
> Date:Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:40:57 -0000
> >
> > Shalom, I need to baptize. I want to go Jordan
> >with my girlfriend to visit and baptize there :) .
> >
> >

> >More photos, more messages, more storage-get 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail.

Michael Ramp

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Jul 24, 2007, 1:56:10 PM7/24/07
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Hey Leandro,

Yes, they have a baptism place on the Jordan river. It is very close to the Kinneret(Sea of Galilee), and they think it was close to where John the baptist was baptising in Yahshua's time. I've been baptised there, and been to the spot 2 or 3 times.

Are you living in the US illegally? Not sure exactly what your situation is, but perhaps you should email me privately about it, rather than putting it on a public list. :-)

I am doing fine, getting ready for a trip to Alaska to go work for 2 months. Then we'll see where I go from there.

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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:55:57 -0000

>
> Wow, I did not know they have a place specialy to baptizing in
>Jordan. Have you ever been there Michael?
> I prayed to God to send someone to baptize me, I've been to
>some churchs and told them many times I want to baptize but they don't
>care much. when I saw the new 7 wonders winner, there were Petra and
>it came to mind mind "Jordan river" , so I thought that's where I want
>to baptize.
>
> I'm passing through some problems now that, I need to go to
>Bosnia but they don't give me visa if my USA residence status is
>Illegal. I can only apply for a USA visa in 10 years, and big chance
>I won't get it. So I kind of know not what to do now. but still
>searching if I find a little door. I writing this in case you or
>someone have any knowledge of this kind of immigration issues.
> I want to go to where my girlfriend is so we can get
>married.
>
>
> Is everything fine with you Michael? where are you living now? I
>live now in New york.
>
>


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snezic

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Jul 25, 2007, 1:39:43 AM7/25/07
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Good morning! :)
Im not sure about the tabernacle picture :) but it has been a really
non usual painting. But I will paint it soon. These days r weird..
Something is changing. And something is moving, anyway when Im
finished I will put it on the net.
Enuma Elish: Its one of the first epics

http://www.sacred-texts.com/ane/enuma.htm
here is the link to it. Ive found something on the internet. I have it
in some old books, about legends and stuff.
Have a wonderfull day!!!
Snezic
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