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[Andus Brandt]

My bait hive is not successful.  So, I'm interested when someone catches a swarm, maybe I can get it set up in there.  

Also, I've been wondering if this forum is the main way to get this sort of info out there, or whether there is a separate one on swarms.

Thanks,

Andus 

[Gerald Przybylski]

Our first year setting up a proper bait hive, the first move-in was in
late March,
and the remainder moved in during the last two weeks of May.
Last year our four move-ins were also in May.
This year I had intense scouting in late March, early April, but no
move-ins.

I'm hopeful for success in the next month to keep the streak going.

As Phil points out in his program, it's like fishing.  The more hooks
you have in the water, the better your chances. Then, it's patience.

Deploying bait-hives at the houses of friends can increase your coverage.

What is your set-up?
What lure materials are you using?
What is the location?  Shade or partial sun or full sun?

[Andus Brandt]

Thanks Gerry.

I have a single deep box with ten frames, most of them cut out in the middle like Phil showed them in his slides.  I bought some lure from BioFuel.  I think I need to refresh that.  It's pretty much full sun, facing southeast.

Andus

[Jerry Przybylski]

If in full sun, they may be put off by the heat. I suggest shading or insulting the top. 

If You can smell the lure, it’s too much. Subtlety. 

Mimic a dead-out. 

That’s my 2¢

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Thanks Gerry.

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[Mimi]

Bait hives in my yard have yet to yield even one swarm; once they landed right next to bait hive and I had to capture them. I’ve had success in trees outside my yard.

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[Paula Breen]

I've already had 6 this season. 4 locations.  All between 6 inches and 3 feet off the ground, 3 in full shade, the 4th in afternoon sun. All of which are no-nos according to the science, lol. I do keep 1 frame of old dark comb in there on the far side, and the rest are empty foundationless frames. Add a spritz of swarm Commander weekly. I've had good luck. Could be location though. There are a lot of bees in my neighborhood. 

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[sandy fong]

I set up a very simple trap for them to land .

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[Paula Breen]

Awesome pic Sandy!

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[YDK (Yateendra)]

That's a great picture! Is that single frame with some lure sprayed on it mounted on a pole? 

This is my first year with bait hives too. I observed many scouts but no move-ins yet. I used lemongrass oil and probably it is not as good as swarm commander. Reading earlier comments, I am now going to move it in a shaded area to see if that helps. 

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[Leslie Louie]

I had a single deep with an old wax frame, another with pollen and a few open frames. Nice spot on my sunny back deck that was successful last year.

Last month, a swarm was gathering around the deck but they chose the little nuc close to the house in the shade that I had stored a few frames of pollen and honey in. After they moved in, I transferred them to the deep and added more frames of resources and a frame of brood. I saw the queen and marked her. Next day, they were on the deck hovering around the dead queen. I had a virgin queen from another hive that I put in there after a few more days, since they wouldn't have had any way to make a new queen on such a short stay of the first queen.

Leslie

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[Manning Sutton]

Last year I had two random swarms move into leftover equipment I had in my yard - both in deeps with (new and old comb).  And I had two swarms move into actual swarm traps I set up at my sister house, both tied to trees about 3 feet above the ground. (May and June).

This year I had one move into a swarm trap I put up in a grapefruit tree. (Small, March).  And another two back into the same two swarm boxes in the same trees in early April.  

I think it's a bit of luck, using old black comb and a little attractant (I use lemon grass oil on a q-tip ). 

For 4 years I had no swarms move into anything I tried.

Manning 

[Mimi Edwards]

The only swarm that moved in my yard was to old equipment left out (full size boxes, guess they prefer those over my nucs).  I know "bee trees" that the bees swarm to over and over again, unfortunately the bee trees are not in my yard.   

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[Andus Brandt]

I guess I wrote in too early!  Last week I was informed that we had a swarm up the street from my house.  I called the hotline and Jerry very patiently explained some things to my over the phone, then actually showed up and caught most of the swarm, shaking the bees into the bait box I mentioned.  That was Saturday.  They seem to have adjusted to their new home well.  See photo.

[Mimi Edwards]

What is that thin layer between the bottom board and the first deep box?  Mimi

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[Andus Brandt]

Mimi,

I forget what that’s called - it makes for a ventilation space.  Inside, there are slats running widthwise.

Between the brood box and the super there is a queen separator.

Andus

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What is that thin layer between the bottom board and the first deep box?  Mimi

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 2:34 PM Andus Brandt <and...@gmail.com> wrote:

I guess I wrote in too early!  Last week I was informed that we had a swarm up the street from my house.  I called the hotline and Jerry very patiently explained some things to my over the phone, then actually showed up and caught most of the swarm, shaking the bees into the bait box I mentioned.  That was Saturday.  They seem to have adjusted to their new home well.  See photo.

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[Christine Hyung-Oak Lee]

I have one of those (between the bottom board and the bottom box). It's called a slatted rack and supposedly keeps the bees from abandoning the bottom. So far, so good (I've had them for a couple seasons now).

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