Aggressive bees?

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Joan Houston

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Jul 6, 2025, 7:52:29 PM7/6/25
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Okay this is gonna be a long saga but I’m finally feeling better today after Monday’s chemo and I’ve got bees on the brain.


I recently responded to a post here from an older couple in Lafayette looking to rehome a hive. When I offered to defer to someone beeless or struggling, the lady replied, “I don’t really think I want them going to someone new.” I asked why, and she goes, “They’re very active.” I was like uhh, okay… When I said I didn’t really want to introduce pissy genetics to my apiary, she says, “I’m not gonna lie—they’re a little aggressive.”


She explained that it was a 10-frame, all-medium hive stacked five boxes high. They had just pulled two honey supers, leaving three boxes behind. I was thinking that alone could be part of the problem—taking away space and stores in the middle of a nectar dearth can create stress. I told her I’d take the hive, park it at the far end of my apiary, and keep an eye on them.


When Jake and I showed up last night and lifted the hive onto the carrier, I immediately noticed how light it was—concerning, since it meant they had few resources (no capped honey, little pollen). I also saw a bunch of ants crawling on the brood boxes and a ton more on the two empty supers, another reason for the bees to be less than thrilled with their accommodations.


The bees then endured the bumpy ride back to Livermore. When we got close to the apiary, we saw the road was blocked. Apparently two girls were going 100 mph, took out a huge chunk of fence, wrapped themselves around a power pole, and had to be airlifted out. Unfortunately not a rare occurrence in Livermore wine country, but this one was particularly bad. :( PG&E had a lot of trucks rolling in and the road was closed to all traffic. So rather than settling the hive in its new permanent location, the poor bees had to spend the night in the back of my truck in the driveway.


This morning, the winery that hosts my hives told me the road was open to one-way traffic and the gate was solar-powered, so we headed over to drop off the hive. After letting it settle in for about 45 minutes or so, I opened it up and a horde of extremely upset bees poured out. I had a veil on and took a dozen or so stings to the hands and arms while slowly backing up into the rows of petit sirah.


After about another 15 minutes I told Jake (who was smart and wore a suit) to please toss me my bee jacket, take off the cover, queen excluder, and triangle board, throw on an inner cover and an empty ant-free super, deploy the top feeder that I'd prepped with 1:1 sugar water and a dollop of Honey B Healthy before leaving home, and slap an outer cover on the whole mess. By then he was about done with the situation so took the dog home, who was cowering by his forerunner after being terrorized.


I stayed long enough to watch the hive settle down dramatically, which took about another half hour while I was occupied with other stuff. By then my jacket was off and Nasanoving and orientation behavior was kicking in. In a day or two I'll open her up and have Jake check things out, maybe adding more bee space and a pollen patty.


So here’s some takeaways:

  • A “hot” hive isn’t always about genetics—it can be about poor management, stress, or starvation.
  • Before assuming bees are Africanized or just plain evil, look at resources, space, pests, and queen status.
  • Feeding can be a game-changer. Even spraying with sugar water can calm them down. Stressed bees often mellow out when survival pressure is lifted.
  • Always wear protective gear and work with a partner when dealing with an unknown or reactive hive. Hah, like that’s gonna happen :)
  • Ant pressure ain’t no joke. It’s just one more thing for a healthy hive to deal with, and it can easily take down a weak hive. Keep stands in oil moats and monitor them routinely. Ants are always the first thing I look for when arriving at either apiary.
  • Don’t be afraid to take on a problem hive! But have a plan and exercise patience.


Do I recommend this method for everyone? Absolutely not. Did I do everything right? Again nope. But it’s a solid example of troubleshooting a difficult hive instead of giving up on it. Beekeeping isn’t always neat or predictable. Sometimes it’s about reading the situation, staying calm, and giving the bees a shot. If this hive is still pissy after a week or so then it's on to Plan B. No drones flying so I have a bit more lead time to consider options.


As a fun aside, here’s my new doormat, encompassing two passions.

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Mimi

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Jul 6, 2025, 11:44:36 PM7/6/25
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Thanks Joan for well thought out email.  Yes many factor will contribute to aggressiveness - being Queenless for example.   For a newbie dealing with truly aggressive gene, the first step is willingness to dispatch a Queen- a difficult action when new to beekeeping.  Not only the Queen but all the drone cells too to prevent spreading of aggressive gene.

Through the years I’ve tamed many hot hives.   Now I have absolutely no patience for them, especially since my apiary is my backyard.  

Mimi 

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Jul 11, 2025, 4:57:47 PM7/11/25
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Thanks, Joan!

I love your humor and appreciate your expertise. I hope the chemo is working and you are feeling better.

I send my love,

Ellen

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