Ônibus Hacker - Ribeirão Preto - Resultados

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Pedro Markun

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:19:11 PM3/18/12
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Caros,

comecei a documentar aqui:
http://okfnpad.org/onibushacker-ribeirao

Vou escrever mais tarde um relato menos bulletizado da coisa... contando um pouco do meu ponto de vista o que foi essa experiência :)

abs,
Pedro Markun
ps: Quem tiver fotos e vídeos, vai mandando o link aqui na thread?
ps2: Bora subir no wiki tb?

Lívia Ascava

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naice. pela noite eu complemento aí também :)


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Fabricio Zuardi

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Só agora (domingo a tarde) consegui ter sossego pare sentar na frente do laptop, vou jogar meus centavos nestes docs e links dos resultados das minhas 2 oficinas…

Por enquanto posso dizer que a iniciativa do lambe gerou algum bafafa, não consegui ir tirar as fotos mas conversei por acaso com uma fonte minha da cidade e ele comentou sem eu perguntar que "colaram um negocio de transparencia" na frente da Leão Engenharia, que é uma empresa não vinculada à Leão Leão... eu tb achava que era tudo a mesma coisa, esta fonte que me disse que são empresas distintas :)

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Fabricio


Lívia Ascava

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markun,

não tem mesmo ligação no quadro societário, nem nada? 

Pedro Belasco

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Olha que massa.


2012/3/18 Fabricio Zuardi <fabr...@fabricio.org>:

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Pedro Markun

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Uai,

sempre um bom serviço de transparência deixar claro que são duas empresas distintas :)

Olhando rápido por aqui, a Leão Ambiental - que pelo menos no nome é do Grupo Leão e Leão - é também parte do grupo 'Geovision'
http://www.geovisionsae.com.br/leaoambiental/br/

Que por sua vez tem outras empresas ligadas :P

A Leão Engenharia também:
http://www.leaoengenharia.com/sanen/

E a SANEM aparentemente também presta serviço pra prefeitura... então se errarmos (e ainda não estou certo) em conectar a Leão Engenharia com a Leão & Leão e a Leão Ambiental, pior foi deixar passar essa :)

Enfim, é certo que temos que ir refinando esse processo e que ter uma base do tipo http://opencorporates.com/ ajudaria muito.

Em tempos, sócios da Leão Engenharia LTDA:
ALCINO DONIZETE CROISFELT, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 042.887.068-66, RG/RNE: 13894944X, RESIDENTE À RUA ITAPIRA, 419,
JARDIM PAULISTA, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, CEP 14090-120, NA SITUAÇÃO DE DIRETOR ADMINISTRATIVO E FINANCEIRO.
CARLOS ALBERTO FERREIRA LEAO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 338.648.619-34, RG/RNE: 7913792 - SP, RESIDENTE À RODOVIA ANEL VIARIO, C.SUL KM. 312, CITY RIBEIRAO, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, CEP 14028-000, NA SITUAÇÃO DE DIRETOR PRESIDENTE.
JOSE ROBERTO H. ROMERO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 594.563.298-87, RG/RNE: 6102226 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA PEDRO
PEGORARO, 575, RIBEIRANEA, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, CEP 14096-440, NA SITUAÇÃO DE DIRETOR COMERCIAL E DIRETOR DE PRODUÇÃO.

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Sócios da Leão & Leão LTDA.

ADAIR BUENO LEAO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 037.157.458-78, RG/RNE: 3402470 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA TIBIRICA, 682, APTO. 131,
CENTRO, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, NA SITUAÇÃO DE SÓCIO ADMINISTRADOR, ASSINANDO PELA EMPRESA. COM VALOR DE PARTICIPAÇÃO
NA SOCIEDADE DE $ 1.450.000.000,00.
CARLOS ALBERTO FERREIRA LEAO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 338.648.619-34, RG/RNE: 7913792 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA GERALDO XAVIER, 476, JD. CANADA, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, NA SITUAÇÃO DE SÓCIO ADMINISTRADOR, ASSINANDO PELA EMPRESA. COM VALOR DE PARTICIPAÇÃO NA SOCIEDADE DE $ 1.450.000.000,00.

ISABEL CRISTINA BUENO LEAO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 071.455.908-32, RG/RNE: 7659616 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA CAMPOS SALES, 824, APTO. 201, CENTRO, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, NA SITUAÇÃO DE SÓCIO ADMINISTRADOR, ASSINANDO PELA EMPRESA. COM
VALOR DE PARTICIPAÇÃO NA SOCIEDADE DE $ 1.160.000.000,00.
LUIZ CLAUDIO FERREIRA LEAO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 071.463.568-50, RG/RNE: 7913794 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA TIBIRICA, 682,
APTO. 131, CENTRO, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, NA SITUAÇÃO DE SÓCIO ADMINISTRADOR, ASSINANDO PELA EMPRESA. COM VALOR DE
PARTICIPAÇÃO NA SOCIEDADE DE $ 1.160.000.000,00.
MANOEL FERREIRA LEAO NETO, NACIONALIDADE BRASILEIRA, CPF: 015.470.628-00, RG/RNE: 1358186 - SP, RESIDENTE À RUA TIBIRICA, 682,
APTO. 131, CENTRO, RIBEIRAO PRETO - SP, NA SITUAÇÃO DE SÓCIO ADMINISTRADOR, ASSINANDO PELA EMPRESA. COM VALOR DE
PARTICIPAÇÃO NA SOCIEDADE DE $ 23.780.000.000,00.

né? Informação pública, meu (p)ovo.

abs,
Pedro Markun

2012/3/18 Fabricio Zuardi <fabr...@fabricio.org>

Sérgio Storch

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:58:29 PM3/18/12
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Qual é o jeito de ter uma url para publicar no facebook e divulgar esse thread para mais gente ver?



Em 18 de março de 2012 15:19, Pedro Markun <pe...@esfera.mobi> escreveu:

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Pedro Markun

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Sérgio,

você fala desta thread?

O grupo é aberto:
http://groups.google.com/group/thackday/browse_thread/thread/372192931387ba94?hl=pt-BR

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Pedro Markun

2012/3/18 Sérgio Storch <sergio...@gmail.com>

Sérgio Storch

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Mar 18, 2012, 10:11:50 PM3/18/12
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tks!!! desta, mesmo!

Fabricio Zuardi

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Mar 19, 2012, 1:56:23 AM3/19/12
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Mapa da segunda oficina (Sexta, LBV):


Ou:


As rotas das duas equipes estão em:


Amanhã subo os da primeira oficina (Quinta, Quintino II) e aviso :)

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PS: ah, dei uma atualizada no etherpad também descrevendo a experiencia da segunda oficina e pensando um pouco em como melhorar para as próximas.

Tiago Cardieri

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Júlio Boaro

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Pessoal, adicionei comentários no doc e publiquei fotos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/100786445501990960129/OnibusHackerRibeiraoPreto

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2012/3/19 Tiago Cardieri <tha...@tiago.adm.br>

Lívia Ascava

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oba!
lívia ascava 

Lívia Ascava

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julio, no picasa: "a página não foi encontrada"

Júlio Boaro

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Agora vai!

2012/3/19 Lívia Ascava <lias...@gmail.com>

Fabricio Zuardi

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Video do JOSM em ação :)


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Lívia Ascava

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beeem legal, hein. as mina pira :)
lívia ascava 

Fabricio Zuardi

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Fabricio Zuardi

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Pedro Markun

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Caros,

a Lucy Chambers da OKFN esta montando um report sobre tecnologias de accountability e monitoramento de finanças...

https://docs.google.com/a/markun.com.br/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGZ1anpCaVZWTTBmR2JQWXFGc0pxeEE6MQ#gid=0

Contei do projeto dos lambes e eles piraram. Alguém me ajuda a preencher o form? Acho legal até pra documentar internamente.

E Belasco, Livia, Zuardi, Dani... fotos? Sobe ai, pô!

abs,
Pedro Markun

2012/3/20 Fabricio Zuardi <fabr...@fabricio.org>

Patrícia Cornils

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Sei que é um jeito tosco -- tanto quanto meu inglês é tosco -- mas comecei a responder e vou colar aqui, para alguém mais safo clocar num pad. Não preencho direto lá porque não sei se se pode mexer depois.


Technology for Transparent and Accountable Public Finance (TTAPF)
We would like to ask you to fill in some information relating to your project, which has been identified as a project using technology to further aims of fiscal transparency.

What is the name of this project?

Hacker Invasion -- Lambe-lambe (?)


What's the background of the project? A short summary of the project with key aims, user groups and scope. Who initiated the project and proposed the implementation framework? Is this project realised together with partner organisations/institutions? When did the project start and what is the time frame?

The project is developed by the Transparency Hackers Community during the trips in the Hacker Bus. Transparência Hacker is a community of over 800 hackers and activists who collaborate in projects for transparency, open data and political change in Brazil. Last year we bought a bus, through a crowdfunding project. The aim is to make Hackers Invasions in brazilian citties and get people to find, with us, new ways to do politics. We know that internet and digital tools are already transforming very powerful industries, like the music businness, or the media. It is democratizing our way of communicating, creating, sharing and articulating ourselves. So the same should be true for our way of doing politics. At the Hacker Invasions we make workshops, for instance, on community radio stations; development of public iniciatives laws (?); cartography and incorporate any activity that improve political transparency and citizen empowerment . There is no time frame for that. As long as the bus gets on the road there will be Hackers Invasions. One of our activities is the Hacker Lambe: to assemble information about the local administration's suppliers and to make public, with cartazes lambe-lambe, how much they receive for their services and products and how they were contracted by the administration. Those informations are or should be transparents and published at the administrations sites. The Hacker Lambe evolves as we travel. The next step, at Festival Baixo Centro, a collaborative festival at downtown, São Paulo, is to make  lambes about the real state speculation in the region. We are assembling numbers about the valorization per quare meter, mapping empty buildings, comparing their values with the prices of food in order to question publicly the way the immobiliary market is directing urban occupation.


What is the implementation stage of this project?
    •    Prototype
    •    Existing Project
    •    Outro:
It is an existing project

Which country are you based in?
Brasil

What stage in the fiscal process does this project refer to?
    •    Revenue side of public finance - where does the money of governments come from?
    •    Spending side of public finance - where does the government spend the money?
    •    Off-budget: identifying extra-budgetary operations
    •    Outro
    •    Any of them, depends on what the interests are in each community we visit.
    •   

What are particular goals of the project?
    •    Publish more or better data related to financial processes
    •    Help understand this data through the creation of better visualisation and data analysis tools
    •    Educate citizens about financial processes, and assist civil society organisations promoting accountable governance
    •    Facilitate direct participation in financial matters through participatory budgeting, citizen auditing, etc.
    •    Provide policymakers with complete and reliable data relevant to their work, enabling them to make better decisions
    •    Outro: Again, the Transparency Hackers Community activists have projects on any of these segments and the bus is an open plataform for any of those projects.
    •   

What kind of problem are you trying to solve?

We are improving the awareness about public transparency. And showing, through our projects and workshops, that people can invent their own way to hold policymakers accountable. Also we are bringing awareness about the public data quality, openness and ease of use.

Who has influence over the problem you are trying to solve? Specifically about transparency and public data, Brasil has reccently aproved a freedom of information law. Our aim is to enforce it. So both citizens, pressing on that, and policymakers, complying to it, are the people with influence over it.

What kind of technology does this project use?
    •    phone or text messages
    •    smartphones
    •    standards
    •    newspapers/magazines
    •    offline
    •    social media
    •    web-based
    •    print on demand
    •    Outro:
    •   

What is the role of technology in the approach to solving that problem? How does technology address the issues? Is this established or experimental/cutting-edge technology?

What's the geographical scope?
    •    community/neighbourhood level
    •    local government level
    •    central government level
    •    international level
    •    Outro:

What are the audiences and user groups? What are the audiences and user groups and who is likely to benefit from this project?
    •    civil society organisations
    •    citizens
    •    journalists and media
    •    private sector
    •    Outro:

Are you actively seeking the involvement of the user groups? What are their motivations for using this service? In what ways are users expected to interact / provide input? How is input acted upon?


Does the project require the users to have specific skills? Does it require specialist or technical knowledge?

What are the successes of this project? Has the project been successful so far? Have the aims been accomplished? What are the best practice recommendations for similar projects?

Are there areas where the project failed? What are the challenges? Has the project been less successful in achieving the goals? What could be the reasons behind this? What are the future challenges and how do you plan to address them?

What data does this project use?
    •    The project relies on existing data, e.g. from government sources
    •    The project collects/crowd-sources data
    •    Outro:

Have you had particular problems with the data? Have you had problems accessing the required data for your project? Have you had problems in working with the data - data format, etc.?

Could this approach be scaled up/used in other contexts? e.g. if the project is currently implemented for a user group of 100 users, would it be possible to have 1000 and more users? Could you implement this project using alternative technologies? Could a mobile project be extended with a web platform.

What kind of resources were/are required for the projects? e.g. how many developers, how many non-technical staff were involved? What skills did the team require? What is the cost of the project (in monetary terms or in man hours)?)

Your name

Contact details We'll only use this if we need to get in contact with more questions.

Do you have any additional comments that you would like to share? e.g. What is next in this project?
Patrícia Cornils
11 8372-7473

Pedro Markun

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Valeu Pati :)

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Pedro Markun

2012/3/22 Patrícia Cornils <patrici...@gmail.com>

Patrícia Cornils

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Abre um pad lá que eu continuo...
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