Fall 09 Algebra 1 Cutoff Score?

[Mike Adams]

I haven't found any info on the Proficiency Score for the Algebra EOC/
GW. Seems like folks on block schedule might know something. I'm on
the traditional calendar, but am curious about the score info if
anyone can help me out. Thanks!

[pet...@k12tn.net]

From my understanding they will not set the cut off score until the
summer. That will give them time to have given the test two different
times before they determine it.

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[Mike Adams]

Thanks for the response. In that case, what happens for the 10th-12th
graders taking the test? It is the same test, right? Or was a
different test given to those students?

[Dan O'Connor]

If 10th and 12th graders are registered for Algebra I they will take the EOC. Otherwise, if they have not met the Gateway requirement, they are given the Gateway.

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Thanks for the response. In that case, what happens for the 10th-12th
graders taking the test? It is the same test, right? Or was a
different test given to those students?

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[Kristy Wallen]

All our Al 1 students regardless of grade took the EOC test, same test and same day...no gateway test was given. We are waiting for results and the cutoff scores for our semester grades and repeat scheduling needs based on those scores. They will have to give us some type of cutoff score now....our kids will need to start retaking the course and retest in May.

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Thanks for the response. In that case, what happens for the 10th-12th
graders taking the test? It is the same test, right? Or was a
different test given to those students?

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[Tara Harrell]

74 or better made the cut off

[Amanda Land]

I believe 74 was the cut off score.  It is being sent back graded on a scale of 100 from what I understand (I am a block teacher but teach algebra 1 full year)  I got my info from our advanced algebra 1 teachers who teach for a semester.  They are being categorized as being "met" or "not met"--there is no "advanced" level yet.  I think they are working on those and they are going to be released this summer (again according to others in my math department).  At our school things largely seem still up in the air---hopefully somebody here "in the know" will give us some definites. 

[Mike Adams]

"At our school things largely seem still up in the air"

I understand completely. I find much more information here than
anyone in my school system seems to be able to offer. Does anyone
know if a score of 74 implies that a student correctly answered 74% of
the questions? It would seem a bit odd to me that the former passing
score would have been around 50% and now there'd be a huge increase.
I assume, since it wasn't mentioned, that the State isn't sending back
any indication of the number of questions correctly answered. This is
slightly discouraging if that's the case. My students (all SpEd)
ALWAYS want to know how many questions they have to get right. If a
score of 74 implies that 74% of the questions must be correct, then
that works out to correct answers on 46 of 62 questions. Seems a bit
ridiculous when the old cutoff scores were in the low 30's. On the
other hand, if a score of 74 is based on some predetermined
percentile, then it's next to impossible to tell the students how many
they need to get correct. Kind of hard to justify a test
administration when the expectations are never revealed. Maybe it's
just me, but I find myself more and more discouraged.

[Amanda Land]

I am not sure how they are doing it---but here's what it looks like--- you know they used to give you a score then they would give you a score conversion--changing that score (20's, 30's) into a score based out of 100 so that you could average grades, etc.  Since they haven't given the test enough times to create the different test levels--advanced, etc. because of the lack of previous data--the state is just sending down scores out of 100---now I have no idea how they are getting to said score---I don't know if all questions have the same "weight" as far as scoring is concerned etc.  I do know that our schools scores seemed pretty good--or at least the teachers that tested were pleased---they were surprised in many cases with their special ed students.  I know that doesn't answer any of your questions but maybe that will help alleviate some of your concern. 

[Mike Adams]

Thanks, that definitely eases my mind a bit. We've always been pretty
happy with our SpEd performance on the Gateway, but with the new tests
I've been concerned about the effect on our graduation rates.
Hopefully we'll be ok.