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Kiran Vaka

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Nov 28, 2007, 2:20:51 PM11/28/07
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From: Raxit Sheth <raxitsh...@gmail.com>
Date: Nov 28, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: [BCB] Indic Transliteration - Opensource
To: BarCampMumbai2 <barcamp...@googlegroups.com>, BarcampAhmedabad < barcampa...@googlegroups.com>, bangalor...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: transli...@googlegroups.com , Omkar Joshi <josh...@gmail.com>


Dear BarCampers,

I come to know just few days back about Indic Transliteration System
<opensource>
<Thanks to Shantanu Oak, to point out me this. >

Transliteration is like if you type in English "Kya haal chaal hain" it will
convert to equivalent Hindi, or other language, I.e. you can say Easy Typing
for Indian Language. It is different from Translation !

You may want to have look at

http://www.var-x.com/gamabhana

Currently supports, Hindi,Marathi <Devnagari>, Gujarati,Punjabi,
Telugu,Tamil,Urdu. <Hindi,Marathi works well, South indian languages again
the problem is we dont know this language so unable to test it.>

This system is supporting few websites currently, and based on my personal
opinion it works fine with Hindi/Marathi still I am not able to test as
totally unaware about South Indian languages.

The system is completly JavaScript and hence can be Integrated with many CMS
like including wordpress. <drupla plugin is already out as per my knowledge>

Action Just Taken before few minutes. :

http://groups.google.com/group/transliteration
http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=1002&replies=1

<please note : Regret I am very new to html/php/javascript/wordpress.
Otherwise i have ...!!!>

Action Item Required : You may Interested.

1. Currently system supports Tellugu, Tamil,Urdu,Punjabi
But still Testing is Required for the system
If you find if some words are not rendering properly please post bug and/or
solution to above mentioned group.

If you are Geek in JavaScript and knowing language, you may want to play
with system, find bug and Comeback with fix. Don't you think its a Fun ?

2. Specifically for wordpress, I have submitted idea, you may want to
Rate/Comment the Idea,

3. Integration with any other technology ? please suggest.

4.Play with System, If you find it useful Tell the world. !

5. follow or further disussion on above google group.

Cheers,
Raxit Sheth
www.barcamp.org/BarCampAhmedabad<---IIM-A , date Changed. !

On Nov 27, 2007 6:44 AM, Vijay Kudal < vku...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have wordpress.org hosted but wat to add marathi
> typing facility in rich text editor
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:48:14 PM11/28/07
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> http://www.var-x.com/gamabhana

>
> The system is completly JavaScript and hence can be Integrated with many CMS
> like including wordpress. <drupla plugin is already out as per my knowledge>
[...]

> 2. Specifically for wordpress, I have submitted idea, you may want to
> Rate/Comment the Idea,
>
> 3. Integration with any other technology ? please suggest.

This is an endless path you are heading down, IMHO, if you need to
integrate your JavaScript based IME (Input Method Editor) with every
popular/new website/framework on the Internet.

This may sound brash, but have you ever heard of *native* IME
software? They run natively atop your Window Manager and allow you
to type (transliterated or key-for-key remapping) in any language
you wish into *any program* and *any window* you wish.

For example, you could type transliterated Hindi into your Web
browser (in *any* website you want!), your e-mail client, your chat
client, your word processor, your file manager, etc. using the
*same* piece of software!

Examples of native IME software for *NIX (Linux, BSD, etc.) are
SCIM[1] and IIIMF[2]. For Windoze, you can check Microsoft's
BashaIndia[3] website, which supposedly has IME software for
download (but I have never tried it because I do not use Windoze).

Also see my video demonstration[4] of SCIM in action, if you want to
see how IME software works. If you want to try this out for
yourself, follow these instructions at the Swecha wiki[5].

Cheers.

P.S. I did not reply to your Transliteration google group because my
registration to join the group has not yet been approved by the
group owner.

[1] http://www.scim-im.org/
[2]
http://www.openi18n.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=30&page=1
[3] http://www.bhashaindia.com/Community/CommunityHome.aspx
[4]
http://rassmalog.rubyforge.org/blog/2006-04-03-video-demonstration-of-telugu-rts-with-scim.html
[5] http://www.swecha.org/wiki/Input#RTS_with_SCIM

Veeven (వీవెన్)

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Nov 29, 2007, 12:13:57 AM11/29/07
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On Nov 29, 2007 9:18 AM, Suraj N. Kurapati <sun...@gmail.com> wrote:
This is an endless path you are heading down, IMHO, if you need to
integrate your JavaScript based IME (Input Method Editor) with every
popular/new website/framework on the Internet.

I agree. That's not the most effective way. And, it is not efficient anyway.
 
This may sound brash, but have you ever heard of *native* IME
software?  They run natively atop your Window Manager and allow you
to type (transliterated or key-for-key remapping) in any language
you wish into *any program* and *any window* you wish.

For example, you could type transliterated Hindi into your Web
browser (in *any* website you want!), your e-mail client, your chat
client, your word processor, your file manager, etc. using the
*same* piece of software!

Examples of native IME software for *NIX (Linux, BSD, etc.) are
SCIM[1] and IIIMF[2].  For Windoze, you can check Microsoft's
BashaIndia[3] website, which supposedly has IME software for
download (but I have never tried it because I do not use Windoze).

InScript keyboard layout (which is non-phonetic) comes with the OS on both Linux and Windows XP.

In Linux, one just need to enable it in the the Keyboard Preferences. Those who would prefer phonetic method, they can use either SCIM and IIIMF. These two tools support multiple keyboard layouts, including InScript.

In Windows XP, InScript can be enabled as shown here: http://telugublog.blogspot.com/2006/03/xp.html

For phonetic method in Windows, in addition to those from BashaIndia, there are Baraha[1] and Aksharamala[2].

[1] http://baraha.com/
[2] http://groups.google.com/group/aksharamala

I think it would be more effective if we spread awareness of these tools. Since, a JavaScript library can let people type in native languages only in the web browser. It may take some more efforts to make it work in other applications. However,  the methods that Suraj and I mentioned give users the greatest ability: the ability to type in their native language *wherever their computer allows them to type*.

Since there are already tools that give us that ability, any other effort to address typing in native languages does not sound prudent to me.

Thanks,
Veeven.

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Suraj N. Kurapati

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Nov 29, 2007, 12:34:31 AM11/29/07
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Veeven (వీవెన్) wrote:
> I think it would be more effective if we spread awareness of
> these [native IME] tools.

I agree వీవెన్. So far I have just written instructions for IIIMF and
SCIM setup on the Swecha wiki and Telugu Wikipedia and blogged[1] a
little about it in my relatively unknown corner of the Internet.

However, you are a more prominent figure in the online Telugu
community so I think it would be more effective if you wrote some
articles about this topic and promoted it.

[1]
http://rassmalog.rubyforge.org/blog/%E0%B0%A4%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%AE%E0%B1%81-tags-telugu.html

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