[racchabanda] Fantastic Report on "Andhra Ayyagaarlu in America"!

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surya_raous

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May 6, 2008, 11:06:20 PM5/6/08
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http://www.eenadu.net/panelhtml.asp?qrystr=htm/panel13.htm

I request all the members of this forum to read the above article!
Hats off to the reporter you has put together this article. I just
want to mention my own experience with some of these అమెరిచా
అయ్యగార్లు. I once had a వాహన పూజ at a well known temple in
US. I paid the fee to the temple manager for this pooja, had all the
necessary materials for the pooja and the manager assigned an
అయ్యగారు to perform pooja for my car. After the pooja was done, I
gave a $20.00 bill to the అయ్యగారు as దక్షిన (tip?)! This
amount is little more than what I paid for official fee for this
pooja. Then, this అయ్యగారు said, "ఇంతేనా, ఇంకా ఒక 20 ఇవ్వండి"!
I was surprised that he had the audacity to demand more! So, this is
just an example of how these అయ్యగార్లు want to become rich quick!
I will write more on many more of my such experiences with these
అమెరిచా అయ్యగార్లు.

Thanks for reading and please feel free to share your experiences
(either on this forum or with me directly).

Regards,

Surya Rao (surya...@yahoo.com)

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Sesha Vadapalli (VSTSayee)

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May 7, 2008, 12:54:39 PM5/7/08
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--- surya_raous <surya...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> http://www.eenadu.net/panelhtml.asp?qrystr=htm/panel13.htm
>
> I request all the members of this forum to read the above article!
> Hats off to the reporter you has put together this article.


వాషింగ్టన్ పోస్ట్లో వచ్చిన తర్వాతగానీ
ఇది వార్తగా కనిపించలేదు ఆ రిపోర్టర్కు!
మొత్తంమీద, ఆ అయ్యవార్ల సంపాదనపై అక్కసు మాత్రమే కనిపిస్తోంది.
"కొద్దిగా వేదాలను చదివి, మంత్రాలను ఆపోసనపడితే చాలు"ట!
చివర్లో, నిష్ఠ క్రమశిక్షణతో విధులు నిర్వర్తించే
పూజారులకు మంచి డిమాండ్ ఉందని వ్రాయడం,
ఉపసంహారానికై వ్రాసిన, మొక్కుబడి చివరి పేరాగా ఉంది.
మొత్తం రిపోర్టు వైఖరికి సరిపోనిమాటలు.
అంధ్రరాష్ట్రంలో కొరత ఏర్పడుతోందనటం మరీ వింతగా ఉంది.


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Surya Rao

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May 7, 2008, 1:55:31 PM5/7/08
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Sorry to follow-up on my post. I forgot to mention one more thing in my original post and therefore this follow-up. I am sure many of you have seen in person or on TV the రథోస్త్వాలు and దేవుడి ఊరేగిన్పులు in the streets of Tirupati. All the అయ్యగార్లు sit on the chariots and general public pull those chariots ( I have not seen any అయ్యగార్లు involved in pulling the chariots). And, most of those అయ్యగార్లు are over sized bodies! Any reasons for అయ్యగార్లు not involved in pulling the chariots?

Thanks,

Surya Rao

I request all the members of this forum to read the above article!

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Surya Rao

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May 8, 2008, 9:28:44 AM5/8/08
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Thanks to all those that sent personal mails to me. Most of you have mentioned that everyone wants to make as much money as they can when things are going okay. But, I thought the పూజారులు are beyond materialistic/worldly greets. That was the point I was trying to highlight in this thread.

Thanks,

Surya Rao (surya...@yahoo.com)

"Sesha Vadapalli (VSTSayee)" <seshava...@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- surya_raous <surya...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> http://www.eenadu.net/panelhtml.asp?qrystr=htm/panel13.htm


వాషింగ్టన్ పోస్ట్లో వచ్చిన తర్వాతగానీ
ఇది వార్తగా కనిపించలేదు ఆ రిపోర్టర్కు!
మొత్తంమీద, ఆ అయ్యవార్ల సంపాదనపై అక్కసు మాత్రమే కనిపిస్తోంది.

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Murty, Katta

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May 8, 2008, 11:37:29 AM5/8/08
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ayyA, vALLU manushulE kadaMDI, vALLu kUDA batakAli kadA? katTTA mUrti.

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Subject: Re: [racchabanda] Re: Fantastic Report on "Andhra Ayyagaarlu in
America"!

Thanks to all those that sent personal mails to me. Most of you have
mentioned that everyone wants to make as much money as they can when
things are going okay. But, I thought the పూజారులు are beyond
materialistic/worldly greets. That was the point I was trying to
highlight in this thread.

lylayer

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May 8, 2008, 5:03:49 PM5/8/08
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>But, I thought the పూజారులు are beyond materialistic/worldly
greets. >That was the point I was trying to highlight in this thread.


You are wrong.

How can they be, when they live in this God damn world, with the
rest of us?

Why did you take your car for వాహన పూజ ? What is the point you
were trying to make?

I think -neither you nor your vehicle are protected by poojari.
Materialistically ofcourse. Am I wrong?

Answer if you must, but do not answer while you drive, I insist.
Unless you are 'The Iron Man' :-)


Regards
lyla

Surya Rao

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May 8, 2008, 10:31:06 PM5/8/08
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Wow, I am so glad that an intellectual of your status has chosen to jump in! I hope following few of sentences make sense to you, and if they don't, please don't hesitate to ask me to clarify.

The main reason I went in for the వాహన పూజ was at the insistence of some of the most significant people in my life (from all over the world)! I had to satisfy them, you see! After all they are my well wishers! Moreover, I am not against వాహన పూజ or any other పూజ per se! I never mentioned anywhere in this thread that I am against వాహన పూజ or other పూజలు. I was trying to highlight the demands of tips from అయ్యవార్లు. Please let me know if you need further explanation on this.

Allow me to correlate something here. A friend of mine was mentioning that lots of Indian restaurants in US have been including 18-20% gratuity in their bills to the customers, along with a line for the "tip"! He was asking me to check my bills next time I go to Indian restaurants in US. Next time you go to an Indian restaurant, you should also check to see whether or not the bill is only for the food that you/your family ate, or they have also included gratuity in the bill. Of course, you are expected to pay the tip too. The explanation the restaurant owners are giving is that Indians generally don't tip and therefore they have to include the gratuity in the bill. So, is it not a good idea if the Hindu temples in US also charge దక్షిన amount upfront along with the fee for a particular పూజా, in stead of demanding money at the time of పూజా? I would like to know your opinion on this analogy.

Lastly, even though I consider myself an "Iron Man", I have not typed the above lines while driving! I will try to type my next message while driving:) Is that okay with you?

Surya Rao

lylayer <lyl...@aol.com> wrote:

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You are wrong.

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Satyanarayana Pamarty

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> Wow, I am so glad that an intellectual of your status has chosen to
> jump in!

Dear Surya Rao gAru, and others hanging precariously on this thread:

If I were you, I would truly believe that quite a few articles in the
vernacular press are "fantastic" including this one. The article has
now found a new home and cannot be found in the URL that SR gAru
provided. It's available here:

http://www.eenadu.net/archives/archive-7-5-2008/panelhtml.asp?
qrystr=htm/panel13.htm

Why do I agree it is fantastic?

That's because, Merriam Webster Dictionary's meaning for the
word "fantastic" is as follows:

a: based on fantasy : not real
b: conceived or seemingly conceived by unrestrained fancy
c: so extreme as to challenge belief : unbelievable;
broadly : exceedingly large or great

Now, it is not just the పురోహితులు who are after tips. I have heard
of many instances of "tip-sy" (Don't look at the exact meaning
please) reporters too. While there might be a majority of honest ones
out there, there are several others who give the profession a bad
name. They could fall under the following categories:

1. The "cash and carry" reporter: Also called the "Press meet
reporter", this type of reporter regularly attends various press
meets and collects cash to write about the events. The cash is
usually stuffed in envelopes and is kept on the tables meant for
reporters. When the reporters vanish, the envelopes vanish too. Slick
process, I should admit.

2. The "kind" reporter: Can also be called the "gifted" reporter and
will write in favour of you for gifts not of cash, but of kind. For
instance, if you want an article on you in the newspaper, you have to
call for this reporter and he will decide the size of the article
based on the gift you offer. An ordinary cell phone might yield a
small article, while a refrigerator or a blackberry will yield a
large one.

3. The "litigant" reporter: He is the type of reporter who will
resort to litigation with the editor of the newspaper if his article
is not published. He might claim to be a minority writer for instance
and will claim that he is being sidelined by the editor for reasons
unknown to him. His articles are usually followed by legal notices to
the editor. The articles of a known litigant writer usually get
published irrespective of their merit for reasons better known to the
editors. These reporters are the lion dream (సింహ స్వప్నం) of the
editors.

4. The "cut and paste" artist: Well, you can imagine what I mean,
can't you?

Now, those are some of the types of more than ingenuous reporters
that I have heard of. If I were you, I will place a bucket of salt
next to me while reading vernacular press' articles and will gobble
fistfuls of salt to push some stories down.

If I were a software engineer in America, I might feel jealous of
people pursuing journalism too. They have both power and pelf. And
for those who have been away from home for long, I want to tell you
that the press is no longer completely "free" in India.

I don't currently have a hat on my head. That's because, it flew off
already to the majority of reporters who are honest to their
profession.

Coming to the numbers in the article:

There are 500 temples across the US. There are about 5 to 10 priests
in each temple. At the maximum, there might be 5000 priests in
America. These guys are servicing a huge community of Indians whose
religious interests are increasing day by day (how was this
assumed?). Anyway, there should now be a big shortage of freelance
and full time priests. Now, that gives me some ideas!

Following the article, I think this is what will happen next:

1. Recruiting firms will cash in on the process of recruiting priests
for the temples. Since there are 500 temples and growing, there can
be a huge clientele and a possible monopoly. We can worry about the
antitrust suits later. They can place the unplaced priests on a bench
and offer them better stipends than those on software benches until a
suitable position is found. In fact, since there appears to be such a
great willingness for this career amongst software engineers, I
assume it might attract many software professionals to jump from one
bench to another.

2. If priests cannot be imported (because of strict US visa rules),
priestly work can be outsourced to India. Companies called Priestosys
or Priestozant, Pratyam or PCS (Priestly consulting services) can be
floated. Seeing their success, giants like Priestosoft, Proogle,
Prahoo and Priebay will all set up shop in India. They will buy up
Indian companies like Priestmail, and Praazee etc.

3. There will be a craze for priests in the matrimonial market too.
Hip girls just out of college will soon swoon over tuft headed
priests of America forgetting all their local boy friends and giving
those hapless chaps a shock of their lives. The priests will no
longer be the laughing stock and just imagine the demand they will
have in pubs and dance floors.

4. saMskRtaM will once again become the lingua franca of India. All
prospective brides will take spoken Sanskrit classes to prepare for
the future.

5. Priests will be allowed to pull out their ఉద్ధరిణి and
పంచపాత్ర in flights right after take off. There will be in-flight
announcements saying that their prayers might interfere with airline
communications during take off and landing.

oh! I hate to think further, but I loved the article. Thanks Surya
Rao gaaru.

With best wishes

Satya

Anil Kurnool

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May 10, 2008, 2:14:58 AM5/10/08
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Dear Surya Rao garu,

If you are not against pooja and you want to perform vaahana pooja, you
could have gone ahead yourself and performed pooja yourself, instead of
depending on ayyavaaru or ammavaaru at some gudi.

To satisfy your well-wishers, who wanted the pooja to be performed, you
could have opted for "recorded" version of pooja. There are many poojas that
are available in recorded formats like tapes or CDs.

Isn't it?

What stopped you from doing so?

Or can I assume that you were looking for an oppurtunity to write something
against those poor folks, who eek out a living by doing a "live" poojas!

Thanks and Regards,
Anil Prasad Kurnool


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Surya Rao

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May 11, 2008, 9:41:30 AM5/11/08
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@Y@Hello Anil Kurnool,

Even though I am replying to your post, I am treating my post as a general reply to other posters in this thread. My below comments are NOT directed to any particular person or group of people.

What I understood from your post is that I should have done పూజ myself, instead of going to a temple and asking the పూజారి to do the pooja. I am sorry, but I consider your opinion as a వితంద వాదం. Because I am born into Hindu religion and I continue to be a Hindu, I am continuing to participate in the activities related to this religion, like going to temples and doing పూజలు. I have just tried to highlight the demands of some పూజారులు for more money from devotees, putting aside the age old concept of "bavathI bhikshAndEhi ? ఈ హొపె ఈ హవె చ్లరిఫిఎద్ నౌ.

ఠంక్స్,

శుర్య ఋఅఒ

ఆనిల్ ఖుర్నూల్ <అకుర్నూల్గ్మైల్.చొం> వ్రొతె:
డీర్ శుర్య ఋఅఒ గరు,

వ్హత్ స్తొప్పెద్ యౌ ఫ్రొం దొఇంగ్ సొ?

ఓర్ చన్ ఈ అస్సుమె థత్ యౌ వెరె లూకింగ్ ఫొర్ అన్ ఒప్పుర్తునిత్య్ తొ వ్రితె సొమెథింగ్
అగైన్స్త్ థొసె పూర్ ఫొల్క్స్, వ్హొ ఈక్ ఔత్ అ లివింగ్ బ్య్ దొఇంగ్ అ "లివె" పూజస్!


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lylayer

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> Dear Surya Rao gAru, and others hanging precariously on this thread:


Having seen Spiderman and now Iron man, I can do it. I can do it.

Hi! Satya:

Few days back, my son insisted we see Iron Man movie. I reluctantly
agreed , only because the handsome Jeff Bridges ( The
reporter/photographer in the movie King Kong ) was in there. But they
have changed his face completely for the picture. What a
disappointment.

The movie Iron Man was quite a bit of fun though.

The villain speaks Hindi and I ask my son "do you know what he is
saying?"

"No, what is he saying? But mom, did you see that man" - my son says

"I say what man?"

And he says- That man mom. he is Stan Lee Mom. He is the creator of
the cartoon.

And I say "is this Iron man a bloody cartoon character?"

And my son says "Mother! where have you been."

And i say "where have you been- you don't even understand what
villainous things the villain is saying and what his demands are,
then how can you follow..."

But we did not escalate the fight - keeping the approaching Mother's
day in mind.

> 3. There will be a craze for priests in the matrimonial market too.

> Hip girls just out of college ..... The priests will no > longer be

the laughing stock and just imagine the demand they will > have in
>pubs and dance floors.

> Satya


Anyway Satya,:-)

I am writing this post with the one and only intent -to say I am so
happy to see you. And :-) secondly, to let you know that there is
this movie 'The Love Guru" - to be released in June. Considering the
preview shown, looks like it will have some of good stuff you said
above. I will be laughing a lot. If the movie is released
simultaneously in India see the movie, so we can laugh together.

Regards
lyla

Immature Mature

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May 11, 2008, 5:30:49 PM5/11/08
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qqQY@I have just tried to highlight the demands of some పూజారులు for more money from devotees, putting aside the age old concept of "bavathI bhikshAndEhi ?


డీర్ ఋఅఒ గరు,

ఈ ఫైలెద్ తొ రీద్ థె అర్తిచ్లె ఫ్రొం ఈనదు, అస్ ఈ చౌల్ద్ నొత్ ఒపెన్ థె లింక్.

భుత్ యౌర్ ఇంతెరెస్త్ ఇన్ థె అర్తిచ్లె రెఫ్లెచ్త్స్ యౌర్ ఎకష్పెరిఎంచెస్, మకెస్ యౌ తొతల్ల్య్ అగ్రీ విథ్ వ్రితెర్ ఒఫ్ థె అర్తిచ్లె.

ఈ హవె సిమిలర్ ఎకష్పెరిఎంచె ఒఫ్ పుజరి ఎకష్పెచ్తింగ్ సొమెథింగ్ "మొరె" థన్ వ్హత్ వె పైద్ అత్ థె చౌంతెర్ ఒర్ ఒఫ్ఫెరెద్ హిం అస్ డక్షిన. భుత్ ఈ నెవెర్ చరెద్ ఫొర్ హిస్ రెఉఎస్త్, అంద్ వెంత్ ఒన్ విథ్ వ్హత్ ఈ వంత్ తొ ఒఫ్ఫెర్ హిం. ఋఎచెంత్ల్య్, ఈ గొత్ ఒప్పొర్తునిత్య్, తొ చ్లొసెల్య్ వత్చ్ అ చౌప్లె ఒఫ్ పుజరిస్ అంద్ థైర్ ప్రొబ్లెంస్, అంద్ త్రౌబ్లెస్ ఇన్ అచ్చెప్తింగ్ అ జొబ్ ఇన్ ఆమెరిచ. ఈ �°
�ింక్ థిస్ ఇస్ థె ఒనె సెచ్తిఒన్ ఒఫ్ అమెరిచ వ్హెరె ఇందీన్స్ అరె సుఫ్ఫెరెద్ ఇన్ థె హంద్స్ ఒఫ్ ఇందీన్స్.

ఆస్ మన్య్ పెఒప్లె చొమె తొ లంద్ ఒఫ్ ఒప్పొర్తునిత్య్, ఫుజరి అల్సొ చొమింగ్ తొ ళోఓఫ్ తొ మకె ఉఇచ్క్ బుచ్క్స్. (డొ యౌ క్నౌ, థైర్ విస ఇస్ జుస్త్ లికె ఔర్ హ్1 విస, థౌఘ్ ఇత్ ఇస్ చల్లెద్ ఋ1 (రెలిగిఔస్)).
(ఈ ఉందెర్స్తంద్ థత్ వ్హిలె గెత్తిగ్న్ విస, థెయ్ హవె తొ రెచితె మంత్ర పుష్పం ఒర్ ఎల్సె అత్ చౌంతెర్ ఒన్ మౌంత్ రోద్).
ఠెరె ఇస్ నొ ఒఫ్ భవథి భిక్షం డెహి, వ్హెన్ ఇంతెంతిఒన్ ఇస్ తొ మకె థె బుచ్క్స్ ఫస్త్. ఈత్ మయ్ నొత్ ఫైర్ తొ ఎకష్పెచ్త్ థెం (పుజరిస్) తొ బె ఠెయ్ క్నెవ్ (ఒర్ యౌ షౌల్ద్ క్నౌ తూ) థత్ థెయ్ దొ నొత్ గెత్ బిగ్ సలరిఎస్, అస్ వె అల్ల్ గెత్ తొ మకె ఫస్త్ మొనెయ్. ంఅయ్ బె థత్ ఇస్ థె రీసొన్, థెయ్ ఎకష్పెచ్త్ మొనెయ్ ఫ్రొం సెర్విచెస్. ఆస్ ఇన్ అల్ల్ ఒథెర్ చసెస్, ఇఫ్ హె దోస్ నొత్ అస్క్, నొ ఒనె చరె తొ ఒఫ్ఫెరà
� , ఎకష్చెప్త్ అ చౌప్లె ఒఫ్ బుచ్క్స్. ఈ క్నౌ థెరె అరె అ చౌప్లె ఒఫ్ పుజరిస్, ఇఫ్ థెయ్ అరె నొత్ హప్ప్య్ విథ్ వ్హత్ యౌ ఒఫ్ఫెరెద్, రిఘ్త్ ఇన్ఫ్రొంత్ ఒఫ్ యౌ, థెయ్ పుత్ థె మొనెయ్ ఇన్ తొ హూణ్డీ, అంద్ మయ్ నొత్ అచ్చెప్త్ యౌర్ పుజ నెకష్త్ తిమె (లికె అల్ల్ ఒథెర్ ప్లచెస్, లెత్ ఇత్ బె అమెరిచన్ ఒర్ తిరుపథి).

ఆగైన్, వె అరె చ్రీతింగ్ సమె ఒల్ద్ స్య్స్తెం, అ సెచ్తిఒన్ ఒఫ్ ఈందీన్స్ (???) ఒఫ్ఫెరింగ్ మొరె ఫొర్ అయ్యవర్లు, అంద్ గెత్తింగ్ స్ప్ల్ అత్తెంతిఒన్. " వచ్చర? రంది రంది బగున్నర?" ఎంత చ్రౌదెద్ గ ఉన్న, రెచొగ్నిజె చెసి, మెల్లొ తులసి మల వెసి, వెల్లెప్పుదు అప్ప్లె ఇచ్చి, వల్ల పిల్లలికి గుప్పెత్లొ రసిన్స్ పొసి..........

ఆందరిలగనె, పైస లొ (సొర్ర్య్ పైస కాదు) కూద పరమత్మ ని చూస్తరు, అమెరిచలొనె కాదు, ఎక్కదైన అంతె.

ఈ దొ నొత్ ఉందెర్స్తంద్, వ్హ్య్ వె ఫీల్ బద్ వ్హెన్ పుజరి షౌస్ పర్తీలిత్య్, ఒర్ ఎకష్పెచ్త్స్ మొనెయ్ ఒర్ ఫవొర్స్ థొసె వ్హొ పయ్ మొరె.

భ్ట్వ్, దిద్ యౌ ఒఫ్ఫెర్ హిం వ్హత్ హె ఎకష్పెచ్తెద్?

ఋఎగర్ద్స్

శ్రిరం

NaChaKi

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May 11, 2008, 8:56:52 PM5/11/08
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@<< I have just tried to highlight the demands of some పూజారులు for more money from devotees, putting aside the age old concept of బవథీ భిక్షాందేహి? >>
పాత joke ఒకటి గుర్తు చేసారు, thanks!
"మా ఆవిడకి డబ్బు�యావ ఎక్కువైంది! ఆరు నెలల క్రితం వంద రూపాయలు కావాలంది. సరేలెమ్మన్నుకున్నా. మూడు నెలల క్రితం అయిదు వందలు కావాలంటే ఎందుకా అనుకున్నాను. ఇప్పుడేమో ఏకమ్గా వెయ్యి రూపాయలట! అసలు ఏమనుకుంటోందో డబ్బులంటే...!"
"ఔనా... అసలు ఏం చేస్తుంది ఇచ్చిన డబ్బులన్నీ?"
"ఎప్పుడైనా ఇస్తే కదా... ఎప్పుడు అడిగినా ఏమీ ఇవ్వకుండా తిక్క కుదిర్చాను!"
"..."
...ఇక విషయానికి వస్తే restaurantsలో ఎలాగైతే అక్కడ వచ్చే average tips per month ని బట్టి జీతాలు నిర్ణయిస్తారో అలాగే నాకు తెలిసి ఆలయ నిర్వాహక trust వారు అమెరికా పూజారుల�జీతాలు trust పరిధిలో జరిగే పూజలు, వాటి వలన నెలసరి కనీస రాబడి ఇత్యాదులను బట్టి ఆయా పూజలకు, పూజారులకు ఇవ్వవలసిన రుసుము నిర్ణయిస్తారు. పూజలకు�నిర్ధారించిన (fix చేసిన) రుసుములో�సుమారైన భాగమే�నిర్వాహక�వ్యవస్థకు చేరుతుంది. నాకు తెలిసిన పూజ�°
�రులు కొందరు ఏళ్ళ తరబడి ఉండే అనుబంధం వలన 200-400 మైళ్ళ దూరం కూడా స్వయమ్గా తమ కారులో వెళ్ళి పూజ జరిపి వస్తారు. అంతటి కార్యానికీ వాళ్ళకి మిగిలేది ఎంతో తెలుసా? ఎక్కడో ఎందుకు? మా universityలోనే ప్రతి వినయాక చవితికీ 150 మైళ్ళ దూరం నుంచి పండగ అవగానే వచ్చే శనివారం పొద్దునే వచ్చి సాయంత్రం దాకా నిష్టగా భోజనమైనా చెయ్యకుండా, విసుగూ విరామం లేకుండా పూజ చేయించి, అధికశాతం విద్యార్థులే వస్తారు కన
ుక పూజ సామాగ్రి
మాత్రమే కాకుండా ఒక్కోసారి విగ్రహం కూడా తానే తీసుకువచ్చి మళ్ళీ 150 మైళ్ళు drive చేసుకుని ఒంటరిగా వెళ్ళే�పూజారికి మేము ఇచ్చేది ఎంతో తెలుసా? అన్ని ఖర్చులూ కలిపి $250-300! గత అయిదేళ్ళలో ద్రవ్యోల్బణాలు, economic recessionలూ ఈ మొత్తాన్ని పెంచలేకపోయాయి. (Budget కష్టమయ్యే Student Association ఇలా చెయ్యవలసి వస్తుందన్న వాస్తవం నాకు తెలుసు కనుక సాయంత్రం పూట పూజ నేనే నిర్వహించటం ఆనవాయితీగానూ మారింది. ఒక పూటైనా సంపూ�°
�్తిగా, సంతృప్తిగా చేయించిన భావన కోసం ఆయనని పిలవటము, మా మాట కాదనలేక ఆయన రావటమూ కూడా అంతే ఆనవాయితీ మరి!)
అమెరికా గురించీ, ప్రవాసాంధ్రుల జీవితాల గురించి తోచిన విషయాలు, అరకొరగా తెలిసిన విషయాలూ�వ్రాయటం వార్తాపత్రికలకు ఆనవాయితీగా మారింది. అది వారు తప్పు కూడా కాదు. ఎందుకంటే ఇప్పటికి ఎన్నో ఏళ్ళుగా East/West Coast లో ఉంటున్న తెలుగు వారికి, భారతీయులలో�చాలా మందికి�దాదాపు వెయ్యి మంది భారతీయులు ఉన్న "పల్లెటూళ్ళు" కొన్నింటిలో Indian groceries కొనాలంటే 200 మైళ్ళు వెళ్ళవలసి వచ్చే పరిస్థితి ఉన్న విషయం త�±
�లియదు మరి! తెలుగు చలనచిత్రాలు అమెరికాకి పంపేసి "ఎంతండీ ticket, just $12 మాత్రమే కదా... మీరు అక్కడ సంపాదించే దాంతో పోలిస్తే ముష్టి..." anE telugu chitra pariSramaki kaaru addeku teesukuni 300 maiLLu dooram bayaludEri veLLE vidyaarthulanu dRshTilO peTTukOvaalani teliyadu... vidESa jeevitamanEdi eppaTikii alaanTi మ్య్స్తెర్య్ kooDukunE unTundEmO... "డొ యౌ హవె అన్ ఎలెఫంత్ ఇన్ యౌర్ హొమె ఇన్ ఈందీ?" ani manalni aDigaaru ikkaDi vaaranTE aDagarU mari!
samaadhaanam vraastUnDagaanE ennO aalOchanalu vacchi vishayam pakkaki jariginaTTu anipinchinaa annii okaTE vrELLa nunchi puTTinavEnani grahincha manavi.
nacaki

Anil Kurnool

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May 11, 2008, 8:37:40 PM5/11/08
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Dear Surya Rao,

I cannot agree more with you, regarding the temperments of
ayyavaru. Technically, ayyavaru should be happy with what ever is offered,
but they are behaving in ways different.

A simple walk down the lane will show that it is not only the ayyavaru at
the Hindu temple, but every ayyavaaru at any temple is doing it.

The ayyavaaru of "temples of modren India" (irrigation projects - as called
by Nehru) be it PWD officers or the contractors or anyone - don't you not
think that they looted the tresury in name of dakshina?

The ayyavaaru of the RTO office, demands INR 750 as dakshina for archana
(registering a two wheeler), while the challan for archana is only INR 58.
You simply pay - as there is no way out.

It is same at any temple, be it Municipal Office, Panchayat or Secratariat
or even the traffic signal. Ayyavaru is the same.

Now, why do I have to go and succumb to the demands of ayyavaru at these
temples. I am born into the religion called India and no way out.

When at every step we allow ayyavaru to control the outflow from our
pockets, why single out these folks at the temple.

To top it up, these folks at the temples have been given cold shoulder by
everyone, by Govt. in form of no financial support or education support,
endowments department taking away the lands allocated to temples, last but
not the least, the modern day fashion is to blame everything on the these
folks at temple. Be it raising prices, be it politics etc everyone finds
only two reasons for the decay in country, 250 yrs of British rule and
existance of ayyavarulu.

Hope you would not call this as vithanda vaadam. Even if you call it, I
really do not need your endorsement :-)

Sesha Vadapalli (VSTSayee)

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May 12, 2008, 7:45:36 AM5/12/08
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@YY@

--- Surya Rao <surya...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have just tried to highlight the
> demands of some పూజారులు for more money from devotees, putting aside the
> age old concept of "bavathI bhikshAndEhi ? ఈ హొపె ఈ హవె చ్లరిఫిఎద్ నౌ.

--- శుర్య ఋఅఒ <సుర్యరఔస్యహూ.చొం> వ్రొతె:

> భుత్, ఈ థౌఘ్త్ థె pUjArulu అరె బెయొంద్
> మతెరీలిస్తిచ్/వొర్ల్ద్ల్య్ గ్రీత్స్. ఠత్ వస్ థె పొఇంత్ ఈ వస్ త్ర్యింగ్ తొ హిఘ్లిఘ్త్
> ఇన్ థిస్ థ్రీద్.

ఔ హవె మిస్తకెన్ pUjArulu ఫొర్ sanyAsulu.
A vidhividhAnAlu sanyAsulaku; pUjArulaku kAdu.

--
ఋఎగర్ద్స్,
శయీ.


భె అ బెత్తెర్ ఫ్రిఎంద్, నెవ్షౌంద్, అంద్

క్నౌ-ఇత్-అల్ల్ విథ్ అహూ! ంఒబిలె. ట్ర్య్ ఇత్ నౌ. హ్త్త్ప్://మొబిలె.యహూ.చొం/;య్ల్త్=ఆహు06ఇ62సృ8హ్డ్త్డ్య్పఒ8వ్చ్జ్9తాచ్ఝ్

Satyanarayana Pamarty

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--- In racch...@yahoogroups.com, "lylayer" <lylayfl@...> wrote:

> I am writing this post with the one and only intent -to say I am so
> happy to see you. And :-) secondly, to let you know that there is
> this movie 'The Love Guru" - to be released in June. Considering
> the preview shown, looks like it will have some of good stuff you
> said above. I will be laughing a lot. If the movie is released
> simultaneously in India see the movie, so we can laugh together.

Hi Lyla!

Thanks for your message. I too saw the trailer of the movie "The Love
Guru" on the net and it sounds like real fun.

I don't know what mischief guru piTka (modern day vAtsyAyana?) will
be upto in June, but I have been upto my own mischief in the meantime
participating in what might turn out later to be a revolution in the
publishing world. I signed up for beta testing of the much talked
about www.smashwords.com. I was selected to be one among the first 50
beta testers. I was beta tester number 36. Don't know what they did
not see in me to have selected me.

Actually, Smashwords like ideas are not new to Telugus. Most telugu
books seem to be self published. No peer review, no validation, no
unnecessary nuisance. There are very few publishing houses, if any
that really look at the content and publish it. Anyone who could get
a book printed could actually become a published author.

So, culturally, we telugus advanced to a state of "Smashwords" long
long ago. Now, the cost of printing is not going to exist in this
case and with an army of net savvy telugus on the block, I think
telugu authors can benefit a great deal from an idea like Smashwords.
All those who think that there is a manuscript in them can publish it
here and get to be paid some decent royalties too (if the book sells
that is).

If you are a telugu author sitting with a MS out there, you should
try this smashwords system. There will surely be someone on the
internet cloud who likes your stuff and will buy it to read it. This
site aims to become the YouTube of the Publishing industry. My claim
to fame is that I am the first telugu who sniffed it out first.

Sreenadh Jonnavittula and I embarked on an idea sometime ago of
saving all the messages on RB and later publishing them as a book of
some sort. However, Sreenadh gaaru sadly invested his hope in me and
I (of the తెలుగు వీరా! ఆరంభ శూరా! fame) never got beyond saving
the 70th message. We can perhaps revive this idea and collectively
save the messages and bring about the book and publish it on
Smashwords.

Whatever it is, I am glad I signed up to the beta. The good outcome
of my experiment is that it whacked my butt off the ground and made
me publish my first manuscript as an experiment. I called it "Dig Me
Now" following Harburg's poem "Dig you Later". For more info on the
poem, visit the site: www.digmenow.com. Sorry for being a bit haughty
there and a bit naughty here.

Well, coming back to business, if you recall, I sent you my
manuscript a couple of years ago to read and you were very decent to
have not read it. In your infinite wisdom, you perhaps foresaw what
was coming. However, your stated reasons were that you could not read
an unpublished manuscript for free and perhaps also inadvertantly
borrow thoughts from it etc.

wow! In my life I did listen to a few excuses, but yours took the
cake! :-)

Well, this time, I have schemed better than that and you cannot
hopefully escape the drudgery of having to read it and what's more,
that too for a fee.

I have published a portion of the same perishing stuff on smashwords
and it's there for everyone to sample and download in the form of an
e-book. Since I am testing out the process to see the interest it
generates etc., I have kept only a smaller portion of my complete
manuscript there. This particular non-volume has the oneliners that
are on the subject of "Life". I agree that it's not the best of
subjects to test waters with.

I have even sprinkled some tasteless illustrations in it to make it
all the more boring. Now, my wife has never been a particular fan of
my writings and considers them a waste of time. She is probably right
because she also did not read the stuff.

So, to prove her right, I thought deeply and decided to place a fee
for the download. But then, I thought again. Who would buy my
worthless crap for a fee? So, I thought I will just charge a buck and
a half for soft shipping charges. Why "soft" shipping charges? That's
because the shipping is by way of download.

You can sample 15% of the stuff before you decide to buy or hide your
credit card out of sight. If the first 15% looks like it will induce
a puke in an otherwise normal human being, it is a strong case to put
the credit card away.

However, if you are impulsive enough to make a mistake, please go
ahead and buy it. Please download the PDF version. That's the more or
less decent format that the automatic publishing system on the site
currently produces. The images are missing in other formats.
Sometimes, the images are not visible too.

Now, having sold one copy already, my book is already in the most
purchased list within a few days of uploading. It took me by surprise
as I expected to sell nothing or something less than that.

Once you read it, you can send me suggestions and complaints at will.
I will take heed of all the suggestions, but will completely ignore
the complaints as usual. Also, if any of you can rate the book or
write a review, there's nothing like it. My title is seeing stars
with no stars next to it.

If any of you want invites to join the public beta, please let me
know offline and I will promptly send you the invite within the next
one month.

For those people who love the KISS (Keep It Short Stupid!) principle,
here are the steps:

1. Go to www.smashwords.com
2. Search for "Dig me Now".
3. Sample the 15% of writing.
4. If you like it, buy it and download the PDF version.
5. Read it for God's sake.
6. If you are still alive and also in no mood to kill me, please
write a review.
7. Please tell your friends about it. A little gossip about me does
not hurt me at all.
8. Curse me for my wishful thinking.
9. Remember, a significant portion of your $1.50 goes to a
charitable "me"! :-))

Have a nice day!

Thanks and best regards

Satya

Hemantha Kumar

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May 14, 2008, 5:16:25 AM5/14/08
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I can chip in with upwards of 3,000 messages if there are any takers and diggers to dig them out of my inbox.

Best wishes
Hemantha Kumar

Satyanarayana Pamarty <pam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>


Sreenadh Jonnavittula and I embarked on an idea sometime ago of
saving all the messages on RB and later publishing them as a book of
some sort. However, Sreenadh gaaru sadly invested his hope in me and
I (of the తెలుగు వీరా! ఆరంభ శూరా! fame) never got beyond saving
the 70th message. We can perhaps revive this idea and collectively
save the messages and bring about the book and publish it on

Smashwords.<snip>

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