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NOTE: No further comments are being accepted.53 comments to this storysubject On January 16, 2012, DJ Urkel Dee said this:Sick!!!
subject On January 16, 2012, Phatbob said this:What's up with the trend of things being bolted on to controllers?
The VCI-300 and NS7 I can sort of forgive as Itch didn't have FX out of the gate, but on this?
"We've made the perfect Traktor controller but the FX unit has to be bolted on top"
Either build it in to the controller, or don't bother!
subject On January 16, 2012, Pressure Wave said this:Way to go Numark! I'm glad that Traktor is getting the full NS# treatment it deserves. NI definitely have the edge over their competitors due to HID support, but competition improves the breed, so I'm glad to see hardware manufacturers still providing alternatives. I'm not so sure about the looks, but they get points for avoiding the slightly overdone Red/Black combo that's popping up everywhere. The 4Trak will certainly get some looks and grab attention. The Kommand Console looks a little tacked on, but I understand the difficulty of trying to redesign the NS6 to fit all those extra FX controls in the current casing, so points to Numark for coming up with at least a semi-elegant solution.
Another fun thought: How cool would it be to show up in a club with a 4Trak and an NS6 set up, so all you have to do is hook up your laptop and get cracking??? It could be the Controllerist alternative to CDJs.
subject On January 16, 2012, Louis said this:very Ugly!
subject On January 16, 2012, AnotherDJ said this:Dont like it.
Why do they build this crap?
subject On January 16, 2012, Gizmo said this:Why do you think it's crap? Feedback is good for manufacturers.
subject On January 16, 2012, GKP Music said this:I love it & I want one .. This is my initial response. I'm a bit obsessed with Traktor and the fact the user can map millions of functions to buttons and knobs. This controller certainly doesn't appear to lack in that department (overall control). The proof is in real-life testing and I hope an in depth video review is soon released - Preferably a combined effort with UniqueSquared & DJ Shiftee (for example)
subject On January 16, 2012, blackavenger said this:Well, I see one thing that is sure to please a Traktor user.....correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the first dedicated controller that gives them a Strip/Needle Search function? I have it on my NS6, and I ABSOLUTELY love the feature. It's just like having a cart w' a record. In fact, up until the CDJ2000s implemented it, I had not even considered straying from Turntables. I wouldn't have gotten into ITCH if the NS6 (which has it) hadn't come along.
As for the bolted on Filters......that is pretty weak. Phatbob is right, the NS7's excuse was that ITCH was devoid of Effects at the point which it was released....an accessory to bolt on after the fact was excusable. But this just reveals the obvious, the 4Trak is an afterthought. An attempt to capture some of the Traktor crowd, albeit in a cheap manner.
I for one am looking forward to the 4Trak MKII....that should be good.
**I was hoping the Numark announcement was a successor to the NS6....one where we got ultra-precise Pitch Resolution & LED monitoring for all 4 channels :/
I knew it prolly wouldn't come til' next year...it was just wishful thinking.
subject On January 16, 2012, Multima said this:NS6 is undoubtely the best midi controller in the world, but people wantet traktor support.. Now they have it. It's perfect.
subject On January 16, 2012, markski said this:Woah! Nice exclusive Giz Dope!
subject On January 16, 2012, chicken tikka masala said this:looks interesting. i agree on the color but that could be easily remedied with a aftermarket skin. my only criticisms are (1) would like to see bigger knobs for effects and eq and (2) would prefer level indicators per channel near the faders.
nice scoop!
subject On January 16, 2012, paddypad said this:Wow. This thing is a beast! Looks like Numark boosts out the best they have for 2012 with the 4Trak as the final controller . The layout is well done. Just two things:
- Will it be possible to route external sources into Traktor to use its effects on them, like for example simple line inputs or maybe even on your own voice using mic input.
- How to activate FX Slot 3 and 4 on the channels? This is what I don't understand, cause no controller supports that.
But despite of these things, it really looks like this thing will support ultra-low latency for the jogwheels.
Cool thing that one can also skip to the beginning of the track with a single button. This is mine
subject On January 16, 2012, VinnyBlanc said this:I'm just sadly looking at my NS6 then looking at this knowing its fully midi mappable with additional external hardware support.
Serato...time to step it up.
subject On January 16, 2012, Ragman said this:Nice start to the New Year Numark and NI. Even those who are not keen on this should be ecstatic as competition like this benefits us all.
subject On January 16, 2012, Strategy said this:Nice to see Numark and N.I. teaming up to build, what I am sure is, one hell of a controller but here's what I don't like or what I think is missing:
FX Controls for fx-units 3 & 4
Cuebuttons for cuepoints 6-8
Cuebuttons for sampleslots 1-4 x 2
The paintjob...wtf? Please make on in black with blue/orange!! Pretty please!
Just as with the S4 in order to truely use all of Traktors awesome features and for me to dive into controllerism heaven I once again have to bring along/purchase a second controller along side this beast! Why oh why? :(
subject On January 16, 2012, frequency.m said this:I wish the filter knows were part of the mixer section (like they are on the reloop) instead of above. Are there controls dedicated to effect selection or are you stuck doing this on the laptop? A lot of these controllers don't seem to have controls dedicated to picking your effects. Traktor 2 can also have 4 effects now; with all this real estate I'd liked to have seen dedicated controls for all 4.
Based on the marketing blurb I take it this only has 2 channels of external inputs not 4? What I'd really like that nobody seems to do is a controller that acts as a Traktor mixer. Four external inputs so I can bring my own "controllers" (turntables in my case) but have the controller be the mixer and have hardware buttons for effects, loops, loop recorder, etc. I could certainly live with transport controls on the controller as long as I can ignore them and hook up 4 external timecode controllers of my choice. The first company to do that with a quality controller gets my money.
subject On January 16, 2012, Buddha said this:Having a hard time understanding why the fx section isn't built into the controller. Seems like they are trying to market it as a "bonus". I can't really see the benefit in having an extra part to break/lose/go wrong.
Other than that looks good. Pricing would have to be sub-s4 territory. DVS integration is a deal breakers for me too. Can't imagine this will have it tho.
subject On January 16, 2012, Digital Boy said this:Why not just get an S4 for less? This doesn't even look like it has sample control.
subject On January 16, 2012, filespnr said this:@frequency.m good call on the FX not being with the mixer
@Numark Start giving more thought to how people actually want to play, and realize that the beauty of controllers is the ability to do multiple things at once. This is a sick controller, but it's too big, too spread out, and the button/knobs aren't group to allow innovative styles. Basically, it will only allow you to re-produce Turntable styles.
subject On January 16, 2012, Gizmo said this:I suspect that the reason why the FX controller is an add-on is cost. To rework the top of the NS6 would require expensive additional tooling, rather than some new smaller tooling for the add-on. I like it there, but not everyone will.
subject On January 16, 2012, Toast said this:Clearly they are fully aware that at 1099 they aren't gonna take away much sales from the S4. Also i'd rather the VCI-400 at 999 if i'm gonna spend the bucks.
@filespnr is right. Like the NS6 this is catered to the turntablist in you although Traktor's jog wheel settings aren't as food as Itch so it will be difficult to cut like you do in there.
The efx section isn't bad. i dig it. i just wish the filters were in the mixer section.
Can't blame them for not fully redesigning. tooling of this size would cost anywhere from 50-100k or even more depending on where it's getting done. Expensive stuff.
subject On January 16, 2012, LeiChat said this:Looks cool but was it conceived and designed before Traktor 2 ?
Where's the buttons for Loop Decks ?
subject On January 16, 2012, Gizmo said this:I wouldn't say turntablist, unless you're referring to a DJ who prefers a more traditional turntable experience - something larger rather than a compact controller.
The VCI-400 has a lot going for it, including better than average Traktor performance. I was relieved when I fired up my unit with Traktor - It's always a tense moment to see how the jog wheel feels. It's not Traktor's strong point unless it's with NI's own hardware, or units developed in conduction with NI.
subject On January 16, 2012, Louie V said this:Ive been waiting for numark to release a native traktor controller since the day the NS7 launched, but now, after seeing this one i kinda wished they didn't.
Right off the bat, it looks awful, its laid out for itch, not for traktor, but they think just because they throw on a bar at the top with some extra buttons and knobs, that its optimized for Traktor. Numark has really disappointed me on this one, and trust me, while I'm probably not their best customers, I'm definitely one of their most loyal.
A buddy of mine at numark told me about this thing a year ago, it was supposed to look like a tron version of the ns6 with the blue n green led's (this was at the time of release of the ns6). BULL CRAP! this don't look appealing at all (trust me i loved the NS6) but this just looks like the unloved step child over at numark.
for the last few years numark has done a great job with their products, The Mixdeck was a huge hit, the NS6 was pure awesome, they actually made new mixers for a chance (instead of rehashing their old mixers with new model numbers and diff color schemes). now numark is falling back into that hole they were in for some time. If they need someone with some fresh ideas they can feel free to contact me and i'll work for their product development. they've already offered me a job in their marketing dept, via twitter.
-Louie V
LouieV(Dot)BBP(AT) (G)Mail(dot)com
subject On January 16, 2012, Jack said this:Damn that thing is fugly. Wow.
subject On January 16, 2012, Loudist said this:At first glance I was worried that, given its styling, this unit might have the same build-quality of the NS6 (which is, IMHO, dreadful compared to the V7), but on second glace I notice; Half the effects controls possible, three Cue buttons missing and NO dedicated Sample Deck controls?!
I won't be giving it a third look...
subject On January 16, 2012, Jack said this:lol at continued use of fake 45 adapters silkscreened on fingerpint magnet platters.
subject On January 16, 2012, Jack said this:Where are the individual channel level meters?
subject On January 16, 2012, Jack said this:I don't think it says "Numark" on it enough times. Surely they can add a few more so the user knows what it is.
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subject On January 16, 2012, DJ Rock Well said this:Just to be clear, does 3600 tick per rotation high-res 14bit midi mean a tight scratchable response like the S2 and S4 jogwheels?
subject On January 16, 2012, Gizmo said this:I'd say yes, as Numark would be mad to put it out if they didn't.
subject On January 16, 2012, Toast said this:The S4 has no where near 3600 ticks so someone explain to me how that jog wheel on the S4 is more precise than say an NS6.
subject On January 16, 2012, The Beat Worx said this:I really like the jogs Numark uses for the NS6, so I'm glad they are here for Traktor... Jogs of that size and sensitivity have been lacking in Traktor controllers...
...Not so hot on the look, but that's secondary... At least it'll match all my stainless steel appliances in my kitchen!!!
subject On January 17, 2012, SkyTek said this:So hopefully this means NS6 owners will be able to use this add on also..........
subject On January 17, 2012, serkan said this:It looks terrible... so it fits the Traktor GUI. Well done
subject On January 17, 2012, DJZin said this:Anything other than brushed aluminum would be a better looking surface. And with the effects mounted at an angle it really gives it a 1960s NASA feel.
subject On January 17, 2012, Dj Demand said this:Numark please make a V7/NS7 equivalent for Traktor and then it's game done.
subject On January 17, 2012, Mac said this:Fixed _4TRAK_BlackScience_modfix1.jpg
subject On January 17, 2012, Satsun said this:quote:""So don't be having any mad ideas of buying a 4Trak and simply downloading ITCH - it doesn't work."
It wouldn't work because Itch controllers are, in a sense, "dongles" for the software. They have to be plugged in for Itch to fully function.
But why not the reverse? Why not allow the NS6 to have access to the 4Trak firmware? If I as an NS6 owner buy a copy of Traktor, why not allow my NS6 to have the high definition jog mapping?
I'd even be willing to buy the "FX Kommand Console" as a way of unlocking a tighter Traktor mapping for the NS6. Numark would still make money, and I would have a somewhat software neutral controller.
Thoughts?
subject On January 17, 2012, Chris said this:Will look better in Black !
No vu-meters for each channel..
Filters knobs should be in the mixer section
I think the layer of the vci400 is better
subject On January 17, 2012, Emmett said this:No channel VU meters. This is a significant problem for me.
I don't care for sample decks and 5 cue points (without shift) works fine for me. I can see why this would be a concern for others though.
I quite like the idea of the filters being up the top - it gives it a bit of an old school club installation feel. I also like the idea of the effects rack being able to angled back towards the user.
The yellow LEDs don't float my boat.
Can someone please tell me what length and resolution the pitchfaders are???
subject On January 17, 2012, Calle S said this: _4TRAK_BlackScience_modfix1.jpg
With rotarys; I would buy pronto!
subject On January 17, 2012, Jam Burglar said this:Does anyone know if this unit will be fashionable POST labor day? I want to make sure everything is proper (from a fashion sense). . . . Don't really care about function.
subject On January 18, 2012, Dj Demand said this:quote:"Jam Burglar said this:
Does anyone know if this unit will be fashionable POST labor day? I want to make sure everything is proper (from a fashion sense). . . . Don't really care about function.
"
Absolutely not. Any seasoned DJ knows you can't rock "Stainless Steel" after Labor Day.....What are you thinking man????
subject On January 19, 2012, Aidan Johnson said this:Hotcues 1-5 idea - Use HC#5 as a 1-4/5-8 switch. It's what a lot of other controllers do.
subject On January 19, 2012, DJ L-BIZ said this:looks great but still seems to be missing a few controls. (other than the ones they have bolted on?)
For me one of the best features of Traktor is the recordable sample decks and still only the S4 has hands on controls for that.
This looks like a beast and traktor users who like the Ns6 must be pleased. I'm going to hold my breath to see if this is the unit to make me jump ship to N.I.
subject On January 20, 2012, Richard said this:@DJ L-BIZ I beliece the Vestax VCI-400 has buttons for the sample decks.
Googling some forums though it sounds like the S4's platters are better for the (enthusiast) turntablist.
subject On January 20, 2012, blackavenger said this:quote:" _4TRAK_BlackScience_modfix1.jpg"
ooooh, that's sexy as f*ck!!!!
Of all the shopped NS6's I've seen, none compare to that shopped 4Trak.
subject On January 21, 2012, Jack said this:Here's Photoshopped NS6 the way some would like it to be.
subject On January 31, 2012, Marc G60T said this:quote:"Emmet
No channel VU meters. This is a significant problem for me."
On the NS6 when using the itch 2.1 software and the newest NS6 firmware you can see the use the vu meters to see the gain on each channel by holding down the required channels headphone cue button for a second or two. The vu meter will then switch from master to show the selected channels gain until you release the button. This feature will probably make it into the 4Trak too. Its a compromise i know.
subject On February 5, 2012, Mb said this:I think it looks great. Key rotaries can be changed to work as the loop rotary on the S4. It will be a great, more pro oriented alternative to the S4 and the MC6000 and Pioneers plastic thing...
I think it will do great for those who wish to bring their kit to the venue, and those are a large number.
subject On February 16, 2012, KLH said this:I'd like to know how updates to TP work AND if upgrading to TSP is possible (like on the S4)...
-KLH