An alternative to OpenDNS: Google Public DNS

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Faried Nawaz

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Dec 3, 2009, 3:58:59 PM12/3/09
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http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/index.html
Use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers.

Shaheer Khan

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Dec 4, 2009, 2:07:02 AM12/4/09
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I'm in touch with a rep at Google, and told them how Google's DNS
servers actually have a higher ping than either OpenDNS's, Level3's or
DNS Advantage's. From what I saw last night, on Nayatel, the traffic
gets rerouted through TW1, so can't say anything about PIE networks.

Can someone please state what response time they get on PIE? I'm
getting around 320ms on 8.8.8.8.

Shiraz

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Dec 4, 2009, 2:34:49 AM12/4/09
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I have following:

Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=240
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=240
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=239ms TTL=240
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=240

Uplink/Downlink: TW1

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Tee Emm

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Dec 4, 2009, 2:39:16 AM12/4/09
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The second server (IP 8.8.4.4) is slightly (relatively) faster:

Pinging 8.8.4.4 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=243ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=154ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=174ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=277ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=177ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=242
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=208ms TTL=242


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A. Sajjad Zaidi

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:03:31 AM12/4/09
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This is what I'm getting on Nayatel. That can't be right.

64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=156 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=155 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.4.4: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=156 ms


64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=162 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=163 ms
64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=162 ms


Sajjad

Haris Shamsi

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:10:13 AM12/4/09
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I am pretty sure that regional anycast servers will also evolve very
soon. So the fear of having latency etc will go of.

Resolving the traffic is another way of controlling it :) ... I am
sure this model will be followed by yahoo-microsoft.

With Google storing everything for you, ope source coming as alternate
to your OS, google investing in 13 satellites for broadband ... In 5
years time we will see a very different internet model. Or rather back
to terminal and storage model, the only difference would be that you
need heavy badnwidths on last miles.

Metro fiber networks are gold mines ....... Isn't it !!! :)

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Mansoor Adenwala

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:23:52 AM12/4/09
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From PTCL DSL,

Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=405ms TTL=230
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=433ms TTL=230
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=409ms TTL=230
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=402ms TTL=230


Pinging 8.8.4.4 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=313ms TTL=228
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=336ms TTL=228
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=441ms TTL=228
Reply from 8.8.4.4: bytes=32 time=411ms TTL=228

way too slow. although, opendns is timing out at the moment as well..
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Faried Nawaz

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Dec 4, 2009, 7:25:02 AM12/4/09
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Interestingly, m-2.pknic.net.pk (where is it physically located in
Lahore?) is over 355ms.


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Faried Nawaz

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Dec 4, 2009, 7:22:03 AM12/4/09
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Shaheer Khan <shaheer...@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm in touch with a rep at Google, and told them how Google's DNS
> servers actually have a higher ping than either OpenDNS's, Level3's or
> DNS Advantage's. From what I saw last night, on Nayatel, the traffic
> gets rerouted through TW1, so can't say anything about PIE networks.

It varies a lot, depending on your location. On my work site's VPS in
the UK, it's less than 8ms. On three servers I tried in the States,
it's

Seattle 38ms
SF 57ms
HCO 89ms

There are many traceroutes here: http://bit.ly/5F4F3Q


> Can someone please state what response time they get on PIE? I'm
> getting around 320ms on 8.8.8.8.

In Lahore using PTCL's DSL, it's 170-190ms for both IPs.

Bilal Khan

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:58:47 AM12/4/09
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Hi,
 
result from Wateen, Probably TW1
 
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=241
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=269ms TTL=241
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=241
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=241



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Shaheer Khan

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:24:24 PM12/4/09
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The DNS servers are Anycasted in Asia as well.

I still get ~ 320ms - for bouth IPs. And I'm using Micronet in
Rawalpindi (copper wire).

Can I request you all to paste pings for both Google DNS (pick either
IP) and OpenDNS's? Do state your ISP as well, so that I can aggregate
this information and send it over to Google. Cheers.

Faried, those in the UK or US will get lower pings, since their
servers are within the US and Europe :)

Thanks y'all for your help.

Faried Nawaz

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:20:51 PM12/5/09
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On Dec 5, 2:24 am, Shaheer Khan <shaheer.a.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Faried, those in the UK or US will get lower pings, since their
> servers are within the US and Europe :)

8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are any

Faried Nawaz

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Dec 5, 2009, 4:31:25 PM12/5/09
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On Dec 5, 2:24 am, Shaheer Khan <shaheer.a.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Faried, those in the UK or US will get lower pings, since their
> servers are within the US and Europe :)

That generally goes without saying, but even in both continents,
people were reporting > 100ms latencies.

I tried the traceoutes again today, and now the Seattle server reports
< 9ms pings; SF is down from 57 to 22.

Shaheer Khan

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Dec 6, 2009, 6:42:34 AM12/6/09
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Thanks for the info.

I've passed the information on this thread (the pings and routes,
where available, not the names and other personally identifiable
information) to a person at Google.

Sadly, I'm still getting wicked pings :/

Haris Shamsi

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Dec 6, 2009, 8:01:10 AM12/6/09
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Which hop is giving the max shaheer ?
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Dec 12, 2009, 5:59:59 PM12/12/09
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I am getting around 300 ms (8.8.8.8) on PTCL which is on SMW4 and relatively similar on 8.8.4.4 as well.

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