new init system dropped: nitro

[alex]

https://git.vuxu.org/nitro/about/

Seems to be made by Leah Neukirchen, who has done incredible work in the Linux
space and is an active contributor(?) to Void Linux.

According to the README, some of the interesting (to me) differences between

nitro and other init systems are:

- *All* state is kept in the RAM

- Zero memory allocations at runtime (so, all allocations are probably done at
  startup. maybe using arenas? or maybe they don't even need to, don't know)

- Small *static* binary using musl libc

Usage looks pretty simple, reminds me of runit, Void's native init system.

[alex]

I have just been informed that nitro is not new. Apologies for the propaganda.

[jo...@jocadbz.xyz]

Still, seems a pretty cool unit system. Few questions, hope you will be able to answer them:

- is it newer than runit?

- how do we control services that are initialized on startup? If I recall correctly, the only thing I disliked about runit is to manually having to symlink services manually (I actually fucked up my whole install once because of that…) 

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[Alex]

It's about 20 years younger than runit (I didn't know runit was so old either).

It's configured in a similar fashion to runit because it's a nice unix-native way of

configuring stuff. systemctl is the odd one out here. It has spoonfed us.

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[jo...@jocadbz.xyz]

systemctl is the odd one out here. It has spoonfed us.

Yeah, except I like being spoonfed. Doing >>>SOMETHINGS<<< like Systemd has some advantages.

In void I actually wrote my own utility to enable/disable services for this exact same reason. Prevents mistakes honestly.

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[Alex]

I suppose it helps for incompetent users like yourself.

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[jo...@jocadbz.xyz]

I suppose it helps for incompetent users like yourself.

Have you ever debugged failing perl services at 3:00AM? No? Guessed not.

If those servers were running runit and I were to rely on manually symlinking stuff, I would've broken the system at least 3 times by accident. 

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[Alex]

You know you only have to link the stuff once right? Have you heard of the sv command? it allows you to manage SerVices, like, i don’t know, STARTING AND STOPPING THEM. 

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[jo...@jocadbz.xyz]

You know you only have to link the stuff once right? Have you heard of the sv command? it allows you to manage SerVices, like, i don’t know, STARTING AND STOPPING THEM.

Not when YOU ARE CREATING MULTIPLE CUSTOM SERVICES.

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[Alex]

You are USING IT WRONG

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