Microsoft Licensing - Server versions

[Simon Wright]

Just curious to know what is the highest server version you have licence keys for?

For us it's 2019. Server 2022 has no keys...

I know of at least one other school which has 2022 keys. Shouldn't all funded schools be on the same subscription?

This is just pure curiosity as I have no plans on upgrading, I hope to be server free by the end of next year when our server lease runs out.

There is very little still tying us to having a local AD server or any other windows server.

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[Alistair Baird]

I have server 2022 keys, for a few chocolate fish..........

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[Dion McGovern-Allen]

2022 here (Feilding High), you may need to get put on the updated license agreement.

I've had a similar thing occur at Rangitikei College when I was there.
Had to call up Microsoft for the key :-)

[d.keen...@gc.ac.nz]

In the screenshot, you'll notice an "Export all keys to CSV" option.

This will get you the keys for everything, including things you might not be entitled to, so it would be important to clarify what versions are allowed for deployment.

On our export, we do get keys for Server 2022 etc.  We do, however, have Core Server platform licenses.

Note:  Frankly, it's quite scary how everything could go wrong there.

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[Sue Way]

I can confirm we have Server 2022 licences.

Chocolate fish always work with me ;-)

Sue Way

Wellington Girls' College

[Matt Strickland]

Likewise we're the same... + tons of stuff we are not entitled to.

When I look at really old keys from EDCOM, (Like Office 2000), I see keys for other schools.

I think its mostly cleaned up now after it moved portal, but I had 100's of keys named with other schools.

Matt

[Ben Green]

When licensing shifted from the VLSC website to the M365 admin portal, I think we had to use the VLSC site to link up users to have access though the admin portal, and that included choosing which enrolment/agreement numbers should be available.

Is there any chance that the issues some schools are seeing are due to not having the most recent enrolment ID connected through to their M365 account?

- Ben.

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[Paul Stephen]

The current license agreement the Ministry has with Microsoft covers all current supported versions of the software covered by the agreement.

 The Ministry of Education has update their website with the current supported versions as below

• Windows 10/11
• Office 2019/365 (Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Forms)
• SharePoint 2019/SharePoint Server Subscription Edition
• Exchange 2019
• Windows Server 2019/2022
• Microsoft Teams.

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[Marlon Yu]

Hi Paul,

 

Exchange 2016 is not in the list?

 

Marlon

 

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The current license agreement the Ministry has with Microsoft covers all current supported versions of the software covered by the agreement.

 The Ministry of Education has update their website with the current supported versions as below

• Windows 10/11
• Office 2019/365 (Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Forms)
• SharePoint 2019/SharePoint Server Subscription Edition
• Exchange 2019
• Windows Server 2019/2022
• Microsoft Teams.

 

Paul Stephen
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On Wednesday 29 May 2024 at 08:51:07 UTC+12 Ben - CBHS wrote:

When licensing shifted from the VLSC website to the M365 admin portal, I think we had to use the VLSC site to link up users to have access though the admin portal, and that included choosing which enrolment/agreement numbers should be available.

 

Is there any chance that the issues some schools are seeing are due to not having the most recent enrolment ID connected through to their M365 account?

 

- Ben.

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Likewise we're the same... + tons of stuff we are not entitled to.

 

When I look at really old keys from EDCOM, (Like Office 2000), I see keys for other schools.

I think its mostly cleaned up now after it moved portal, but I had 100's of keys named with other schools.

 

Matt

 

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[Simon Wright]

Curious who is still running a local exchange server and why?

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Simon Wright

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[Craig Knights]

We never ran one.  Everything I saw online said it was a bit of a monster to keep running well.

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[Simon Wright]

Well exactly. We still had one up until moving to Google back around 2011.

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Simon Wright

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[Dion McGovern-Allen]

Technically if you still have a domain controller and azure sync and you've previously had it setup in hybrid. You can't fully remove exchange as far as management is concerned.

Mailboxes of course can be migrated to 365 sure but some settings 365 can't change as it comes from active directory. 🙂

As I understand it!

Its also only recently that you can fully remove any influence of onsite exchange from the cloud.

The recommendation previously would be to still run exchange server for the management aspects!

Here at Fielding High, staff mailboxes were moved to 365 and the exchange server shutdown and decom by the previous IT provider.

Course then it was not an option to remove the hybrid config and it technically is still there!

See - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/decommission-on-premises-exchange#why-you-may-not-want-to-decommission-exchange-servers-from-on-premises

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Dion McGovern-Allen.

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[Matt Strickland]

I ran Exchange up until either 2007 or 2010, so the extended attributes are still in AD (like Exchange security groups, system objects, public folders etc).

I do still use a few extensionAttributes (for syncing from Kamar) but will abandon this at some point with the removal of AD in the future. 

Matt

[Marlon Yu]

We still do.

 

1. We still have on-prem AD and until that goes away, apparently we’re stuck with a need to have local Exchange for management.
2. The amount of emails we send out almost always causes us to hit Exchange Online’s daily send limits so we can’t funnel emails thru it. And with stricter sending limits coming soon in 2025, I reckon we’d be stuck with it for a wee while (although if purely just for this reason, we can probably switch to something else other than Exchange)

 

And the kicker is that Exchange 2019 (as far as we knew back when we migrated; could have changed now) does not support our set up so we’re required to stay with 2016 which is EOL next year.

 

Marlon

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