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Mike Reading

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Mar 7, 2022, 9:31:45 PM3/7/22
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Hi everyone

Just a quick heads up that we are co-ordinating a couple of 1/2 day summits with the MOE, Google, Microsoft, N4L and others. 

The first day is all about security and the second day is all about how to best use all the data you have at your fingertips. 

Here is a 1 pager for the event and here is the registration page. Would be great to have as many of you and your lead teachers attend as possible as 2022 is shaping up to be quite a year on the security front! 

To give you an indication of how big the need is, we recently ran a simple script to determine which NZ schools have security protection against forging emails from their school and found that under 60% of schools have any sort of protection and less than 7% have it fully configured.

Let me know if you have any questions

Mike 

Izzi Lithgow

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Mar 8, 2022, 3:27:47 PM3/8/22
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We'll be there!

I'm presenting on responding to a cyber incident in a pandemic (plagues of locusts need not apply!) and my colleague Andrew Hood will be presenting on how to keep your precious data safe, and a few sneaky ways you can lose it.

Looking forward to seeing a few Techies for Schools faces in the virtual audience

Edwin Bruce

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Mar 9, 2022, 6:25:13 PM3/9/22
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Hi,

Regarding " found that under 60% of schools have any sort of protection " was WEGC on the list found wanting?

Thanks

Edwin Bruce

Edwin Bruce

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Mar 9, 2022, 6:26:31 PM3/9/22
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further... you may prefer to DM me the answer but I expect a few schools will be interested in details...

Jeffrey B

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Mar 9, 2022, 6:28:05 PM3/9/22
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What measures are you looking for SPF records or something more?
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Andrew Hood

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Mar 9, 2022, 7:05:52 PM3/9/22
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Hi,

The Ministry did some work with SMX last year and found that roughly 50% of schools do not have SPF records in place (or are misconfigured) and about 0.9% of schools have full blocking DMARC.

There are tools for checking your SPF records (like https://mxtoolbox.com/spf.aspx) and then moving onto DMARC.

This is an area that I know is a big security risk for schools. However, I am happy to admit that understanding the complexities of SPF, DKIM and DMARC is complicated. How useful would guidance on this area be? I know that I am talking to the more technically minded end of the school sector here, but what are peoples feelings about how well understood this subject is?

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Jeffrey B

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Mar 9, 2022, 7:27:46 PM3/9/22
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From my point of view a 'why it's a good idea' and 'how to' would be a good resource to have avalible. Personally I remember hearing about DMARC but did not get to the reading.

After being reminded I will add the reading to my list and hopeful get to it in the short term.

Hearing about some of the proactive things that can be done in a periodical or builtin would be very handy even if just to remind everyone to check.  It should be light and advisory though to keep everyone's motivation up in a neverending sea of exploits and hackers.


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Glen Pringle

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Mar 9, 2022, 7:46:25 PM3/9/22
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"Any sort of protection" means any SPF or DKIM* record (the loosest possible definition). "Fully configured" means SPF, DKIM, and DMARC are all correctly configured. So there's heaps of schools with no SPF or DKIM at all and very few have SPF, DKIM, and DMARC all correctly configured.

* To search for DKIM records, we only looked for those using the default DKIM selector for Google Workspace & Microsoft 365. I know this might miss some where the selector has been changed from the default or another email provider is being used, but the first is highly unlikely and based on the SPF records there are only a handful of schools that fall into the second category.

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Steve Smith

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Mar 10, 2022, 3:35:36 PM3/10/22
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Morena All,
I edited this help info from our support center about this subject for our schools.
Hopefully it helps to see where you can make changes and how they will impact your domain.
You can make these changes (or your support partner can) direct from the console.
Best regards
Steve

PDF attached and support center links at -> support.google.com/a/topic/90617 
Prevent spam, spoofing & phishing with Gmail authentication.pdf

Nick Steenson

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Mar 10, 2022, 3:42:30 PM3/10/22
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Here I was feeling all smug, now there's a BIMI to set up :-D

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Andrew Hood

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Mar 10, 2022, 7:42:09 PM3/10/22
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Nick, If the only thing that you were missing was BIMI, then pour yourself a nice mug of smugness and have a good weekend!

Alistair Baird

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:20:21 PM3/10/22
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Having set up spf, dkim and dmarc, it was a bit tricky to start with, but it certainly cuts down the SPAM. We still get spoofed though by users using anonymous Gmail accounts to send SPAM, and thus get approved DKIM/SPF headers.

The problem with BIMI when I looked at it was the logo - there wasn't any software package that could produce the SVG file format 'out the box', you have to add plugins and GitHUB tools, and/or pay some ransom for a trademark. Schools don't really have that kind of resource.




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Nick Steenson

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:34:31 PM3/10/22
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>> Nick, If the only thing that you were missing was BIMI, then pour yourself a nice mug of smugness and have a good weekend!
Well there's always a possibility I've stuffed it up, and I DEFINITELY don't read the DMARC reports I get (maybe one a month).

As for BIMI, I'm intrigued, I'll have a play next week. 

My smug mug overfloweth.

Nick

Simon Wright

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:38:29 PM3/10/22
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Really?  I get about a dozen dmarc reports a day!

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Nick Steenson

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:44:29 PM3/10/22
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Brackets placement is important:
>> I DEFINITELY don't read the DMARC reports I get (maybe one a month).

I GET a load, I might only READ 1 a month :-D

Nick


Simon Wright

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:46:23 PM3/10/22
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Lol, yeah, just skim read that. I stopped reading them altogether and they go straight to the bin.


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Marlon Yu

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Mar 10, 2022, 8:55:16 PM3/10/22
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IMHO, not worth it. See https://bimigroup.org/bimi-for-non-trademarked-logos/

 

That and the USD 1,500 per year cost for a Verified Mark Certificate (VMC) makes BIMI just a waste of time at this point.

 

Would make sense for a corporate entity though (their logos are usually already trademarked so it’s just a matter of buying the VMC).

 

Had ours up since last year and none of the major webmail providers our domestic and international caregivers use (like Microsoft, Yahoo and Google) accept non-trademarked logos.

 

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Alistair Baird

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Mar 10, 2022, 9:10:05 PM3/10/22
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>>Really?  I get about a dozen dmarc reports a day!<<

I get about 1 per month, and only from the librarian's canterbury user list when she replies to emails.

Do you have an undocumented email server/sender ? Printer perhaps ? I have a local email relay to send all our printers/scanning and Kamar messages through, and it's a designated sender.



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