Google Maps w/ Te Araroa overlay

[PJG084]

Hi All -

Under each section of the track on the Trust website there is a Google
Map with an overlay on it. Is there a page on Google Maps with the
whole thing overlaid available?

Cheers,

Paul

[Michael Lissner]

If there isn't, it should be fairly easy to export the KML data from each small
map, and then combine them into one big one. And by fairly easy I mean...with a
couple hours work...

Michael Lissner
mlis...@michaeljaylissner.com
909-576-4123

[kimo]

Hmm, so the kmz file has been found. It is really intended for the
trustees to manage negotiations with land owners. If a section is
closed, then we cannot publish it. Even worse would be for aggressive
walkers to trespass in the hope that they will not be caught,
jeopardising our discussions permanently.

If you are a long walker please correspond with the trust directly, or
me.

On Aug 6, 7:49 pm, אייל מרדר <eyalmar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.ollivier.co.nz/home/about.shtm
>
> <http://www.ollivier.co.nz/home/about.shtm>hope it will help.
>
> =)
>
> Eyal
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Michael Lissner <

>
> mliss...@michaeljaylissner.com> wrote:
> >  If there isn't, it should be fairly easy to export the KML data from each
> > small
> > map, and then combine them into one big one. And by fairly easy I
> > mean...with a
> > couple hours work...
>
> > Michael Lissner

> > mliss...@michaeljaylissner.com

[kimo]

Of course, but it is only populated for Northland, so it won't be much
use.
A full system is actively maintained by us, including an export as a
full KMZ file.
Unfortunately it is so large that it won't open in most browsers and
PC's.
It is too large for Google Maps. Google Earth will open it but that is
not our website, and it would only be available for users who have
downloaded GE.
So we decided as an interim measure to just load the section and
adjacent parts.
We are in the process of giving up on the ISP using Cold Fusion and
are building a new map server using the very latest OpenLayers.
You will see it next month.

On Aug 6, 7:30 pm, Michael Lissner <mliss...@michaeljaylissner.com>
wrote:

>  If there isn't, it should be fairly easy to export the KML data from each small
> map, and then combine them into one big one. And by fairly easy I mean...with a
> couple hours work...
>
> Michael Lissner

> mliss...@michaeljaylissner.com

[Paul Gee]

Well I have been playing around in Earth and Maps for a couple of
hours tonight (well, half a bottle of red). What a load of bull it has
proven to be.

Maps only allows individual KML files to be imported. Earth allows
multiple. But when I go to export from Earth into Google it goes pear-
shape. Weird. Time for bed I think.

I look forward to an update from you Kimo.

[kimo]

The route changes quite a lot with new sections being opened, and
alternatives being negotiated. This is one reason we did not want to
release copies into the wild that would be soon out of date.

We hope that the line will settle down soon as we remove the bypasses
and spend money on putting up signs and building tracks, bridges and
removing barriers. That is why the main site only has a list of open
sections. Even some of those are closed seasonally or when disputes
arise. So we need a mechanism that is both flexible to edit so that it
is up to date, but easy for walkers to plan their journey.

I have experimented with many packages to see what is possible with
limited (and also unlimited) funds. I have set up websites, created
map books, PDF files, and track notes. So far the website is the best
we have achieved as a group where at least each region can contribute
to an online editable database. We want to do better, and are building
a complementary website to handle day walk maps as well as give a
national viewer linked back to the track notes being assembled.

GPX files have their problems too. Being here on the ground I have
taken my GPS into the field to see if a line is useful. The group that
I go with soon become dependent on my advice (from the back as I try
to take notes) at each intersection in the bush. People get lost in
the North Island a lot.

A line in a GPS is very useful, and better than a paper map, but needs
a lot more landmarks and needs to be in the background, not just
loaded as a track or route. The route obscures the map with a thick
line, the track gets confused with your new breadcrumbs. We tend to
overestimate progress in bush, a typical speed can be as low as 1 km/
hour on some "tracks" so we mistake a hill for a peak hours further
on.

Again, the whole route is too large to load with user tools for a
Garmin, I have to split it. It needs to be a transparent layer over
the topographic background as vectors so it can be queried. I am
working on this too.

[Michael Lissner]

This is fantastic info Kimo. Thanks for taking the time to keep the community
informed of your efforts on the ground (and virtually!)

Mike