New Lane Arrangement in Kalamazoo

[artbe...@sbcglobal.net]

  Has anyone seen this? Can anyone understand it.  Dennis Randolph is a long-time respected transportation engineeer. I took a college credit class from him.

             Art   

Road Design That Sends Cars Into Bike Lanes Demonstrated For The First Time In Michigan

Road Design That Sends Cars Into Bike Lanes Demonstrated For The First T... "This can only end well," said anyone who has ever ridden a bike through traffic, ever.

[Steven Leiby]

Wondering how you inform drivers who this works?

Looks like another better idea that won’t work.

Steve

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[Tim Potter]

They're testing them in Ann Arbor and other cities too:

https://www.a2gov.org/departments/engineering/transportation/Pages/Advisory-Bike-Lanes.aspx

Here's more detailed info. on the Kzoo pilot:

https://www.imaginekalamazoo.com/projects/winchelltraffic/#edge-lane-road

It's an intriguing concept and perhaps one that's been tested in Europe and shown to be an improvement over our traditional narrow bike lanes in the USA which are oftentimes in the door zone of parallel parked cars, or full of debris, dead animals, etc.  Might help resolve some of those problems, but who knows, might just introduce new ones.  Certainly it is likely a design that will only work on certain roads with low traffic volume during rush hours (when bike commuters would also be present).  I'm all for experimenting with different configurations.  Sadly, most traffic engineers are unwilling to do any experiments on our roads that relate to improving things for non-motorists.

Tim

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[Tom Hardenbergh]

Really!  I think the headline should be "New road design creates open season on bicyclists".  Distracted, inebriated, inattentive, old drivers can't be trusted.  Drivers can't be trusted to slow down.   I think expecting drivers to yield to a bicyclist when taking to the bike lane is a designer's bad dream.  As a motorist, I think it creates more conflicts with bicyclists.

Tom H

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 6:52 AM artbe...@sbcglobal.net <artbe...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[Bob Lovell]

If this is experiment, what's the hypothesis?  How many car/bike crashes maketh it a failure?  How was informed consent obtained?  Are there control streets? If so, how configured?   This looks more like a beer-conceived scheme to chase bikers off a street than a responsible engineering study.

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