I'm having similar issues with my new Clubsport handbrake, it seems the cheap 3,5 mm stereo jack going into the handbrake unit is faulty.. getting stuck at 0% / 30% / 100%, wiggling the connection fixes it, until the connection goes bad again.. Seems odd to use such cheap wiring (and the placement of the connection is not the best anyway). Trying to contact support about this.
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What makes sense for a handbrake? Should I make one with a potentiometer or should I make one on an on/off switch? Is progression of the handbrake preferred in sim racing? Part of me says, "it's only a handbrake, you either use it all the way, or you don't touch it." The other part of me says, "sometimes you want to use it halfway, sometimes you want to pull it all the way up." What's the general concensus out there?
Depends upon the race type... Rally for example. A handbrake can be very useful in many situations, and I have often wondered, over many years of using steering wheels, why manufacturors' of wheels, have not made a peripheral which could [easily] be plugged into to the electronics by - say - a USB connection, to take the place of the usual B button. In the early days of wheel manufacture and console games this was no problem. However, with the incredible advances in racing games and the technology regarding Sim wheels, such as Fanatec, Thrustmaster, and Logitech, to have a detachable hand-brake would - I'm convinced - be welcomed by most Sim, and now, console racers'. I for one would certainly invest in a high-tech wheel that included the choice/option of such a peripheral.
Like Rogue721 said, a handbrake is mainly usefull in rallye games. I can't imagine a lot of situations in road racing when a handbrake becomes handy, though. You could check out this topic, the user Peter gives some interesting statements about e-brakes. viewtopic.php?f=101&t=7304
I'm a console gamer at the moment, so the support for analog handbrakes is limited. On the Xbox360 I got my e-brake to work with Forza 4. I haven't tested it yet but I'm shure the Dirt titles support analog e-brakes as well on the Xbox. On the PS3 its a different story, though. I don't know if any analog inputs (except from wheel and pedals) are supported hardware-wise. I just know that Gt5 doesn't recognize my analog handbrake.
Digital e-brakes are a bit cheaper than the analog ones. If money isn't a problem I consider to buy an analoge handbrake. It should be very easy to add an additional switch to the e-brake. Connect that switch to a disused gamepad or another type of USB controller and voila, you have digital functionality, too. If the price does matter, digital is the way to go...
Yup, I was actually thinking of doing the same thing with an old USB joystick. Yes, I'm a PC gamer, so mapping keys shouldn't be an issue, however, you bring up a good point. I'm not sure which sims support a progressive handbrake. I'll have to figure that one out.
All in all, it should be pretty cheap to do. I can pickup a cheap handbrake at the local Pick-A-Part. If I just want on/off functionality, I should be able to solder one of the buttons on the shifter from my G27 to the switch that can be found on most car handbrakes. It's the same switch that brings up the brake light on your car's console.
To get the potentiometer working however, I'll probably use a small peice of L bracket to hold the potentiometer on the same plain as the handbrake. Put on a small gear with the right pitch to match the one on a handbrake and then wire up the potentiometer to that old USB joystick I was talking about or one of Derek Spear's controller boards.
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The GKTECH budget hydraulic handbrake kits are designed as a cheap alternative to our complete stand alone hydraulic handbrake setup which requires additional calipers, pads and brackets to run the extra calipers. The in-line kit runs through your existing rear calipers and with the inclusion of the braided lines in this kit, is a direct fit with no modifications required.
The reason we call this a "budget" kit is that we are using a generic handbrake handle, assembly and master cylinder as opposed to our pro kit which is a stand alone uses our proprietary assembly, an expensive CNC machined aluminium/carbon fibre handle, Wilwood master cylinder and with all the required parts costs a minimum of $500-$700 to set up. The stainless steel braided lines included are assembled by us in-house in Australia using quality UK made fittings and braided stainless steel, teflon lined lines.
We developed these kits after many customers request for an in-line kit. Our kit is cheap, super easy to install and is reversible with no permanent modifications. Simply remove the standard line between the master cylinder and the rear main line and connect the new braided lines up to the handbrake master cylinder and back again. Total install time should be around 30 minutes.
The GKTECH braided brake lines are assembled using stainless steel fittings and hose that consists of a Teflon inner tube wrapped in stainless steel braid and a PVC outer coating for protection. The brake lines have been independently tested to comply with FMVSS106 standards for brake hoses. This makes the lines ADR approved in Australia and they are marked as such on the brake line assemblies.
The FMVSS106 testing procedure that the lines have been tested against includes the following tests:
- For race cars only however no permanent modifications are required.
NOTE: Can NOT be installed on cars with ABS still fitted however can be used in conjunction with our ABS delete kit as seen under:
Stainless steel braided teflon lined ABS delete kit
NOTE#2: ALL Hydraulic brake systems require bleeding after install
Great setup easy to install only issue is the handbrake to master hose it at least a foot too long but the handbrake to rear junction hose is like 5cm too short . Seems like the hose lengths should be reversed
The GKTECH budget hydraulic e-brake kits are designed as a cheap alternative to our complete stand alone hydraulic e-brake setup which requires additional calipers, pads and brackets to run the extra calipers. The in-line kit runs through your existing rear calipers and with the inclusion of the braided lines in this kit, is a direct fit with no modifications required.
The reason we call this a "budget" kit is that we are using a generic e-brake handle, assembly and master cylinder as opposed to our pro kit which is a stand alone uses our proprietary assembly, an expensive CNC machined aluminium/carbon fibre handle, Wilwood master cylinder and with all the required parts costs a minimum of $500-$700 to set up.
Simply remove the standard line between the master cylinder and the rear main line and connect the new braided lines up to the E-brake master cylinder and back again. Total install time should be around 30 minutes.
The HBP uses a hall sensor and has a spring/elastomer stack combination to deal with resistance and rebound. I found it very smooth to use and, despite the budget price, I found no play in the mechanism.
In terms of construction, the XB1 Loadcell Handbrake is robust. Its full-metal construction ensures durability and longevity even under intense use. It also includes an Elastomer set, each one labelled to indicate resistance, making the device fully adjustable to suit your specific needs and preferences.
The handbrake can be set up vertically or horizontally, which is a level of customization that really appeals at this price point. This can help a lot when you want the handbrake to be in an upward position like the set-up of a rally car. One downside is the lack of mounting choices, which are not much better than that of the universal handbrakes and will require a similar custom solution to connect it securely to your rig.
This Smartcontrol compatible offering from Heusinkveld uses an upgraded load cell to measure the forces between the real world and the simulated environment, which at the time of development was quite a technically impressive thing to do.
Compatibility-wise, this is a PC-only device, although at least the USB cable is included with the unit. Mounting choices are still not amazing, even at the top end of the scale. It seems to be an area where manufacturers across the board have room for improvement regarding sim handbrakes. Still, all those little niggly issues aside, if you want to truly immerse yourself into a game like Dirt Rally, Automobilista, or Richard Burns Rally, then this is the handbrake to get.
How you mount the handbrake to your rig will, of course, depend on which model you choose, but most likely you will need to devise your own custom mounting solution for handbrakes in this category which is fair enough when you consider the price point. One very important thing to note is that these types of handbrakes generally only work on PCs. Having said that, considering the economic price, this lack of compatibility can be forgiven. In general, the overall quality of these devices is not bad, but they cannot compare to other choices on this list.
The load cell (pictured) is a strain gauge-based single point Load Cell with a max load rating of 200kg (item: NA151), which is mated to custom electronics that Meca has designed in-house. You can set your output curves and dead zones using their MECA CONTROL PANEL software, much like you can with the new Heusinkveld handbrake on the Smartcontrol platform.
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