[on-asterisk] RE: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
Bruce N
Hello Everyone,
Just cross posting something that has been brought up on the biz list in the past few days and seems that there is some interest for it. People listed below are interested in co-location but do not have need for a full rack or even half a rack. We are looking to occupy minimum 1U space without paying hefty prices. Everyone listed is also probably looking to use the server for some VoIP related reason. So, we are looking for quality providers and locations that give easy access to Telcos. We are also looking for good deals, hence we are coming together in a team to see if we can struck some special agreement with a provider. There has been some good offers already posted and recently we had Jag post that he has some space at 151 Front Street (Which I assume to be the best place to co-locate). Anyone interested, even if the need is for 1U or more, please reply to the list and add your name.
We are looking to come up with a solution where everyone is accommodated with a good price and great terms. This project is at the beginning stages and nothing has be decided thus far. So, feel free to chime in or voice your opinion.
Sorry if I left anyone off the list; please add your name:
boyington@....... 1U sajmeri@....... 1U k.major@....... 1U skoobyroo@....... 1U bruce@........ 1U Alex.Kink@....... 2U jag_basrai@....... 6U If we partner up with Jag ---------- Total = 13U so far...
If you are not subscribed to Biz list and want to read what has already been said then point your mouse to:
http://www.mail-archive.com/b...@taug.ca/msg01538.html
-Bruce
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> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:30:33 -0400
> From: alex...@gmail.com
> To: het...@hotmail.com
> CC: boyi...@gmail.com; donova...@gmail.com; skoo...@gmail.com; pa...@xelerance.com; er...@bbn.ca; b...@taug.ca; k.m...@aquariustel.com
> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
>
> Oh, I thought I had replied to this.
> I'm also looking for a home for one HP DL380.
>
> I'd be in for 2Us
>
> Regards,
> Alex Kink
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Bruce N wrote:
>
>>
>> All right, we got five people now. Wondering if we can cross post this to
>> user list too for more exposure? This is a group thing, shouldn't be any
>> problem. Right Dave?
>> boyi...@gmail.com
>> saj...@gmail.com
>> k.m...@aquariustel.com
>> skoo...@gmail.com
>> het...@hotmail.com
>>
>>
>> Anyone else looking for co-location, shared, dedicated hosting?
>> -Bruce________________________________
>>> From: boyi...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:18:14 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
>>> To: het...@hotmail.com
>>> CC: skoo...@gmail.com; pa...@xelerance.com; er...@bbn.ca; b...@taug.ca;
>> k.m...@aquariustel.com
>>>
>>> I would like to toss my hat in as well.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Bruce N> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Going through the posts I can see the following people interested:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> saj...@gmail.com
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>>> k.m...@aquariustel.com
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>>> skoo...@gmail.com
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>>> het...@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please add your e-mail address to the list and then we can agree on terms
>> or choices. Like to see this happening really quick. I think you should add
>> your name even if you are looking for Dedicated hosting rather than
>> co-location because we can even get aggregated co-lo + dedicated servers
>> even if required.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> -Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:26:21 -0400
>>>
>>>> From: skoo...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>> To: het...@hotmail.com
>>>
>>>> CC: pa...@xelerance.com; er...@bbn.ca; b...@taug.ca
>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> So is this a go or no go? I'd be interested in placing a box or two out
>>>
>>>> there if we can make something work.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Bruce N> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the clarification Erik.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Hello Paul,
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> You may not get the best "shared" deal out there but it's much less
>>>
>>>>> headache than with a true co-op system anyways. Would you actually go
>> out
>>>
>>>>> and sue the guy with only 1U server just because he bailed out? I guess
>> you
>>>
>>>>> never filed in courts to know what the costs are to sue people for
>> every
>>>
>>>>> single little thing out there. A co-op system like this would never
>> have the
>>>
>>>>> money to come up with the paralegal fees even. So, you are not much
>> more
>>>
>>>>> secured anyways with such a system; anyhow, by picking one person I
>> meant
>>>
>>>>> just a rep to grab good prices like Erik said. For a co-op system once
>> you
>>>
>>>>> calculate the administration cost, insurance cost for bail outs,
>> etc...you
>>>
>>>>> are already loosing whatever you thought you might have saved in the
>> first
>>>
>>>>> place. What I purposed was a separate contract btw the individual and
>> co-lo
>>>
>>>>> provider for every single member so issues like what you mentioned
>> never
>>>
>>>>> happen and still you get a better rate than going in individually.
>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Again, just a thought.
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> -Bruce
>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:23 -0400
>>>
>>>>>> From: pa...@xelerance.com
>>>
>>>>>> To: er...@bbn.ca
>>>
>>>>>> CC: het...@hotmail.com; b...@taug.ca
>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Erik Turk wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> I think the co-op is one method of providing the desired service.
>>>
>>>>> Another way is for us to
>>>
>>>>>>> say to existing providers - hey, we have 40 people who want this type
>>>
>>>>> of service - what
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Then you are just 40 individuals. With your own bandwidth constrains,
>>>
>>>>> without being
>>>
>>>>>> able to combine the traffic into a good deal with 95 percentile. If
>> that
>>>
>>>>> was a good
>>>
>>>>>> option, we'd all already be hosting our 1U server.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> can you do for us, and then each of us makes an individual decision
>>>
>>>>> whether or not to
>>>
>>>>>>> enter a business relationship with that provider. My understanding is
>>>
>>>>> that Bruce was
>>>
>>>>>>> mentioning the latter as an option.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Neither of the 40 people would likely be able to get 24/7 access,
>> since
>>>
>>>>> you're only a 1U
>>>
>>>>>> customer. No aggregate bandwidth to allow us to peak etc. etc.
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>
>>>>>>
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Bruce N
Hi Guys,
Seems like we got two more people on the list now.
terry@..............1Urusslevy@...........1Uboyington@..........1Usajmeri@............1U k.major@............1U skoobyroo@..........1U bruce@..............1U Alex.Kink@..........2U jag_basrai@.........6U If we partner up with Jag ----------------------- Total = 15U
Wondering if anyone has found any good deals yet?
-Bruce
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