[on-asterisk] Question regarding Xen and other virtualization programs for Linux

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Bruce N

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Aug 28, 2009, 12:14:50 AM8/28/09
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Hi Everyone,

I have a few questions regarding virtualization in CentOS, and Ubuntu.

1- What are some of the virtualization programs other than Xen that run on CentOS, Ubuntu and are easy to use?

2- Do any of these come with an easy to use interface for Ubuntu?

3- Is there a turnkey solution for Xen or other virtualization that will provide something like the online VPS providers provide? I mean instantaneous VPS start and package select via web browser?

Thanks for your input,
Bruce
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Chuck Mariotti

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Aug 28, 2009, 12:29:03 AM8/28/09
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Probably not exactly what you might be looking for but Proxmox VE (www.proxmox.org) seems to be gaining popularity (web based management). Not really for an ISP type situation, but it does have a few packages, like the MailGateway they push (or you could build your own).

I am using it for a couple of things, actually have it running inside VMWare... then inside it have two Virtual Machines... but it is nice since it is so easy to install/setup (x64 only!). Nice little backup/snapshot system, clustering (allow you to move one VM to another machine)... some limitations, but overall I'd say pretty nice.

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Duane at e164 dot org

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Aug 28, 2009, 12:48:52 AM8/28/09
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Bruce N wrote:

> 1- What are some of the virtualization programs other than Xen that run on CentOS, Ubuntu and are easy to use?

We just wrote a bunch of php shell scripts to control everything,
untar's a preproduced tar ball of an OS and works pretty straight
forward for us, but if you need web control panels you need something
like DTC.

> 2- Do any of these come with an easy to use interface for Ubuntu?

There is only a couple of virtualisation options suitable for server
based stuff, Xen seems to be the cheapest/best option, others include VM
Ware for Servers $$$$ and VZ $$$ and OpenVZ which is free but allows you
to over allocate ram which can cause apps to crash when the underlying
OS takes ram back.

> 3- Is there a turnkey solution for Xen or other virtualization that will provide something like the online VPS providers provide? I mean instantaneous VPS start and package select via web browser?

DTC for Xen

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Bruce N

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Sep 1, 2009, 1:54:34 PM9/1/09
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Thanks for the inputs on this guys. Really helps.

Duane, is DTC for Xen a web-based managed program/solution for xen? Is it downloadable with a rpm or apt-get on Ubuntu?

I did an apt-get install dtc-xen and I got something installed but not sure where to start from now. Might have to read on it a bit. But wondering if it provides a web based management portal.


Thanks,
Bruce

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Duane at e164 dot org

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Sep 1, 2009, 8:53:28 PM9/1/09
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Bruce N wrote:
> Thanks for the inputs on this guys. Really helps.
>
> Duane, is DTC for Xen a web-based managed program/solution for xen? Is it downloadable with a rpm or apt-get on Ubuntu?
>
> I did an apt-get install dtc-xen and I got something installed but not sure where to start from now. Might have to read on it a bit. But wondering if it provides a web based management portal.

# apt-cache search dtc
dtc-common - web control panel for admin and accounting hosting services
(common files)
dtc-core - web control panel for admin and accounting hosting services
(fewer depends)
dtc-cyrus - web control panel for admin and accounting hosting services
(cyrus depends)
dtc-postfix-courier - web control panel for admin and accounting hosting
services (more depends)
dtc-stats-daemon - dtc-xen VM statistics for the dtc web control panel
dtc-toaster - web control panel for admin and accounting hosting
services (metapackage)
dtc-xen - SOAP daemon and scripts to allow control panel management for
Xen VMs
dtc-xen-firewall - A small firewall script for your dom0
sbox-dtc - A CGI wrapper script for chrooted environment for hosting

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Mike Ashton

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Sep 1, 2009, 11:29:56 PM9/1/09
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Chuck,
Thanks for the lead to DTC looks very interesting. I've been using ispconfig but it is a bit lacking and the added support for Xen is great since we're utilizing xen now. Will be testing shortly!


Bruce N wrote:
Thanks for the inputs on this guys. Really helps.
 
Duane, is DTC for Xen a web-based managed program/solution for xen? Is it downloadable with a rpm or apt-get on Ubuntu?
  
Bruce, It is a web based gui but appears to only support the Xen management on Debian & Centos.

 
I did an apt-get install dtc-xen and I got something installed but not sure where to start from now. Might have to read on it a bit. But wondering if it provides a web based management portal.
 
  
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