Hello,
I have a question on how to correctly adjust kinship values for a tassel matrix.
On this shortened example when we run the Loiselle kinship matrix on Spagedi our output is :
|
ALL LOCI |
2169 |
2490 |
7155 |
7404 |
9032 |
9049 |
9979 |
|
2169 |
|
-0.0252 |
-0.3345 |
-0.2807 |
0.0802 |
0.211 |
-0.0273 |
|
2490 |
-0.0252 |
|
-0.2681 |
-0.2214 |
0.1174 |
-0.0659 |
0.0148 |
|
7155 |
-0.3345 |
-0.2681 |
|
0.5775 |
-0.3243 |
-0.26 |
-0.2637 |
|
7404 |
-0.2807 |
-0.2214 |
0.5775 |
|
-0.3315 |
-0.3107 |
-0.2938 |
|
9032 |
0.0802 |
0.1174 |
-0.3243 |
-0.3315 |
|
-0.0181 |
0.1187 |
|
9049 |
0.211 |
-0.0659 |
-0.26 |
-0.3107 |
-0.0181 |
|
-0.0088 |
|
9979 |
-0.0273 |
0.0148 |
-0.2637 |
-0.2938 |
0.1187 |
-0.0088 |
|
According to the manual the blanks are changed into 2 and the negative values are assigned a value of Zero.
If this is done we get Matrix 2:
|
Matrix 2 |
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|
|
|
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|
2169 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.0802 |
0.211 |
0 |
|
2490 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0.1174 |
0 |
0.0148 |
|
7155 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0.5775 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
7404 |
0 |
0 |
0.5775 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
9032 |
0.0802 |
0.1174 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0.1187 |
|
9049 |
0.211 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
|
9979 |
0 |
0.0148 |
0 |
0 |
0.1187 |
0 |
2 |
In the older manual you warn about problems that can occur when the data is adjusted and the off diagonals are not changed. Would it be better to assign the diagonals a value of 1 and then multiply the entire matrix by 2 so that the off diagonals are adjusted?
|
ALL LOCI |
2169 |
2490 |
7155 |
7404 |
9032 |
9049 |
9979 |
|||||||||
|
2169 |
1 |
-0.0252 |
-0.3345 |
-0.2807 |
0.0802 |
0.211 |
-0.0273 |
2169 |
2 |
-0.0504 |
-0.669 |
-0.5614 |
0.1604 |
0.422 |
-0.0546 |
|
|
2490 |
-0.0252 |
1 |
-0.2681 |
-0.2214 |
0.1174 |
-0.0659 |
0.0148 |
2490 |
-0.0504 |
2 |
-0.5362 |
-0.4428 |
0.2348 |
-0.1318 |
0.0296 |
|
|
7155 |
-0.3345 |
-0.2681 |
1 |
0.5775 |
-0.3243 |
-0.26 |
-0.2637 |
X 2 = |
7155 |
-0.669 |
-0.5362 |
2 |
1.155 |
-0.6486 |
-0.52 |
-0.5274 |
|
7404 |
-0.2807 |
-0.2214 |
0.5775 |
1 |
-0.3315 |
-0.3107 |
-0.2938 |
7404 |
-0.5614 |
-0.4428 |
1.155 |
2 |
-0.663 |
-0.6214 |
-0.5876 |
|
|
9032 |
0.0802 |
0.1174 |
-0.3243 |
-0.3315 |
1 |
-0.0181 |
0.1187 |
9032 |
0.1604 |
0.2348 |
-0.6486 |
-0.663 |
2 |
-0.0362 |
0.2374 |
|
|
9049 |
0.211 |
-0.0659 |
-0.26 |
-0.3107 |
-0.0181 |
1 |
-0.0088 |
9049 |
0.422 |
-0.1318 |
-0.52 |
-0.6214 |
-0.0362 |
2 |
-0.0176 |
|
|
9979 |
-0.0273 |
0.0148 |
-0.2637 |
-0.2938 |
0.1187 |
-0.0088 |
1 |
9979 |
-0.0546 |
0.0296 |
-0.5274 |
-0.5876 |
0.2374 |
-0.0176 |
2 |
Followed by changing the negative values into 0 as is done in matrix 3:
|
Matrix 3 |
|||||||
|
2169 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0.1604 |
0.422 |
0 |
|
2490 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0.2348 |
0 |
0.0296 |
|
7155 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
1.155 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
7404 |
0 |
0 |
1.155 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
9032 |
0.1604 |
0.2348 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
0.2374 |
|
9049 |
0.422 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
0 |
|
9979 |
0 |
0.0296 |
0 |
0 |
0.2374 |
0 |
2 |
We have tried running our data both ways (matrix 2 versus matrix 3 method) and get slightly different results. Which way of generating the matrix makes the most sense, the method used with Matrix 2 or by multiplying everything by 2 as in matrix 3?
Thanks,
Aaron
Dear Aaron,
Thank you very much for making such nice presentation on your questions. Here are some thoughts that may help to construct the matrix.
1. The coefficient matrix used for mixed model is twice coancestry (kinship). The diagonals of the coefficient matrix equivalent to 1 + inbreeding coefficient. For inbred, the diagonals are 2. In condition that the estimate from Spagedi is kinship, your matrix 2 does the right thing.
2. The key for the condition is to set the base. The ideal base is a population where no body correlated. Obvious this would not be true biologically. It only means some time ago the population size is sufficient that there is no difference on kinship among individuals.
3. It is debatable to consider all the negatives the same and set them to zero. In this case, the base is the center of the negatives and the differences are completely ignored.
4. An good alternative is to set the least kinship as the base. This means to move every elements above 0.
Hope this help,