On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:42PM +0200, Raúl Salinas Monteagudo wrote:
> 2012/6/9 Lluís Batlle i Rossell <vi...@viric.name
> > Why couldn't the package simply coflict with moreutils?
> With all due respect, I find that a very poor reason to make such packages
> Because of the fact that taskspooler has been used by so few people in the
> world, it might be the high time to rename it to something different, while
> you keep your shell aliases or symlink "/usr/bin/ts" pointing to the new
I think it's up to the distributions to solve those kind of things. There is
openssl ts page, and there will be more ts, no? Distributions should have
solutions to those situations, as to the situation where people want multiple
gcc, multiple glibc, or even "substituters" that take the names of the programs
they substitute, like 'vim', 'elvis' or 'nvi' for 'vi'. So I don't think I've to
rename anything, because for me this problem is quite artificial and located
only around a very particular FOSS point: debian.
And doing some poor research using the web search, I think moreutils ts appeared
only one year before task spooler, in the shape of a 30 lines perl script in a
package with several short-name such tools. And I think one of the reasons
'moreutils' may appear more broadly used to some particular GNU/Linux users can
be because the moreutils author was already a debian contributor. :)
For example, moreutils got into the gentoo tree only two years ago. And of
course, nixpkgs got task spooler sooner than moreutils. ;) We even still don't
have moreutils now.
I know of the name clash since years ago, but as it took me already some time to
decide and publish the name 'ts', even back then I decided not to rename the task
During these years I've seen some even funny 'ts'; last year or so, someone
" and published there a 'google-api' kind of "to-do list
on the cloud" managed by CLI using a command named 'ts'. Unfortunatelly I think
it's not there anymore; I can't find it even in the wayback machine.
So, in short, I totally welcome the effort of Alexander in pushing so hard the
debian wall. I've been following a bit the BFS, and it looks really hard. Thank
Please note that I've nothing against moreutils; I think every developer should
be able to publish whatever he wants, with the names he wants, and that the name
should not be any problem for distributions.
(Raúl, if you were a debian packager, maybe you could package some 30-line
scripts too. Choose good names, it could be *real estate*! :)