[taskjuggler-users] timesheet vs freeze

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Rene Vergara

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Jan 2, 2012, 8:41:27 PM1/2/12
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Hello. I have been using TJ2 so far and I am trying out TJ3 for a
small personal project.
I'd like to track actual progress versus the plan, so I followed the
manual in using --freeze to obtain the two files. I found that the
yourproject-header.tji file works, but the yourproject-bookings file
is created with a .tjp extension, not a .tji

I manually changed the extension to .tji and tried to run TJ3 on the
file with the includes and I get an error saying that there is an
unexpected 'project' token:

Error: Unexpected token 'project' found. Expecting one of :eof

I've tried placing the include statement in different places on the
main project file and I still get the same error.

Should I just use timesheets?

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Chris Schlaeger

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Jan 5, 2012, 2:57:25 PM1/5/12
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Rene Vergara <rene.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. I have been using TJ2 so far and I am trying out TJ3 for a
> small personal project.
> I'd like to track actual progress versus the plan, so I followed the
> manual in using --freeze to obtain the two files. I found that the
> yourproject-header.tji file works, but the yourproject-bookings file
> is created with a .tjp extension, not a .tji

I can't see how the -booking file could end up with a .tjp extension.
Can you please provide an example project and the exact command line
you use to run tj3?

Thanks,
Chris

Rene Vergara

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Jan 5, 2012, 7:03:24 PM1/5/12
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I downloaded the template file located at:
http://www.taskjuggler.org/tj3/examples/ProjectTemplate/template.tjp

I run TJ3 on this file, without altering it:
tj3 --freeze template.tjp

This produces a template-bookings.tjp file.

When I made my original post, I was trying to get acquainted with the
new version, playing with the template to test out the tracking. I couldn't
get it to work but I kept working on my project for planning purposes.
Today, I tried the --freeze on my project file and it worked with no
issues and the imports also worked. Maybe it's something about the
template?

About timesheets, do they provide a way to enter the bookings? I very
interested in the status reporting in the timesheets.

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Chris Schlaeger

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Jan 7, 2012, 3:14:37 PM1/7/12
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Rene Vergara <rene.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I downloaded the template file located at:
> http://www.taskjuggler.org/tj3/examples/ProjectTemplate/template.tjp
>
> I run TJ3 on this file, without altering it:
> tj3 --freeze template.tjp
>
> This produces a template-bookings.tjp file.

Ok, found it. There was an error ("no trackingscenario defined") but
tj3 did not abort properly. I've fixed that now. If you want to use
--freeze, you need to tell TJ which scenario should be used for
tracking the actual progress.

I've fixed tj3 now to properly abort on this condition.

> About timesheets, do they provide a way to enter the bookings? I very
> interested in the status reporting in the timesheets.

No, they only provide a summary of the completed work, but not a
breakdown of the actual working intervals. However, you can use the
data in the timesheets to quickly adjust the bookings generated with
--freeze to match reality. But this is still a manual process as it
requires intelligent decisions from the project manager.

Chris

Rene Vergara

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Jan 7, 2012, 4:25:09 PM1/7/12
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Thanks!

Is there a way to report with 'status' in bookings, like in a
timesheet?

Chris Schlaeger

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Jan 9, 2012, 2:02:50 PM1/9/12
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On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Rene Vergara <rene.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Is there a way to report with 'status' in bookings, like in a
> timesheet?

No, status reporting has nothing to do with bookings. But you can use
journalentry to report status without using the timesheet syntax.

Chris

Rene Vergara

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Feb 23, 2012, 12:23:51 PM2/23/12
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I have been using timesheets and I like how they work. I see in the
example in the manual that there's a way for the timesheet to request
a task be added. Is there a way to request a task removed?

- Rene

Chris Schlaeger

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Feb 26, 2012, 5:59:33 AM2/26/12
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Rene Vergara <rene.a....@gmail.com> wrote:
> a task be added. Is there a way to request a task removed?

Not directly. But setting the remaining 'effort' or 'duration' to 0
should tell the project manager to either close or completely remove
the task.

Chris

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