I suppose there's no way to continue to support older versions while using the newer api?
When I wrote 'scene users' above, I mainly meant you :-)
Virtually every review in magazines etc mentions the outdated UI. As I
said, I lose an awful lot of stars on Play Store for the UI too.
I will be focused on look and feel. Don't know what you mean by adding
functions
(groups etc).
This isn't a feature request thread :-)
There was supposed to be offline editing already this November, but
the people implementing keep pushing the date back.
Thanks for keeping us abreast of what is coming and why.
My opinion fwiw.
I upgraded from Froyo to GB mainly so I could use Tasker App Factory and it was well worth the effort. I haven’t upgraded to ICS / beyond because I’ve heard on the forums about some buggy features of Tasker on those OS’s. I don’t foresee upgrading for awhile after the new Tasker version because I’m not eager to rework programs that are now working.
But I don’t by any means feel left down. We have a great working program for GB, and it would be letting down the folks with the newer OS’s to not give them a program with the same reliability which also takes advantages of the newest capabilities available. Pent’s got to keep up, or else he’s behind (one of my more profound thoughts today....).
On Nov 25, 2012 5:27 PM, "electricpete" <electr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks for keeping us abreast of what is coming and why.
>
> My opinion fwiw.
>
> I upgraded from Froyo to GB mainly so I could use Tasker App Factory and it was well worth the effort. I haven’t upgraded to ICS / beyond because I’ve heard on the forums about some buggy features of Tasker on those OS’s. I don’t foresee upgrading for awhile after the new Tasker version because I’m not eager to rework programs that are now working.
>
> But I don’t by any means feel left down. We have a great working program for GB, and it would be letting down the folks with the newer OS’s to not give them a program with the same reliability which also takes advantages of the newest capabilities available. Pent’s got to keep up, or else he’s behind (one of my more profound thoughts today....).
My exact situation as well.... could not have said it better..... :)
My exact situation as well.... could not have said it better..... :)
Decision time again.
The 3 most pressing major issues currently are:
- scenes are not good enough to be used for app creation
- Tasker UI is dated
- many parts of Tasker are using deprecated APIs which will be
removed by Google at some point
I've decided that the most important issues are the last two.
I apologise sincerely to scene users for repeatedly saying I would be
working on scenes soon, and then changing my mind.
The last 2 issues are closely related, they both require updating to
modern
APIs and I have to decide which minimum Android version I'm going to
support The minimal version has to be at least 3.0 because that's
when the Holo UI was introduced. I went for 4.0 because around 70% of
Tasker users are currently at that level and ICS introduced a large
amount of major APIs.
To sum: it's going to take me at least 2 months during which there'll
be no
updates, and when I've finished, around 30% of users will only be
receiving bug fix
updates.
Most of those 30% of users will have received many major updates since
they first bought Tasker, so I don't feel I'm letting them down
hugely.
On the plus side, Tasker will match better to the OS, be smaller and
more efficient,
future proof (for a while) and able to take advantage of recent APIs
which were too complex to add while having to maintain compatibility
back to Donut (1.6).
That's all after the current beta of course.
Pent
I would like to ask for a new feature.If it is at all possible to do it.And if Pent can find the time.What I would really like to have, is a "macro recording" feature. Something very similar to what exists in MSExcel that records all clicks and actions done on a spreadsheet and presents a macro to replicate everything.I would use this capability to "record" a series of menu open and button click actions, that I can then translate into a Taker task, adding any condition or if / else that I need.I.E.: record and transform into a task the very long "menu -> settings -> else -> USB settings -> connect -> (insert USB) -> connect -> OK" list of clicks that I need to do on my SGS2 non rooted Android 4.0.3 every time I want to use the SD card as a mass storage device, being seen by my PC with a drive letter (E: / F:) assigned.Thanks.PS: In case anybody has already found a solution for this, please post it !
> Good news, having spent some time with the new APIs it may be possible
> to produce a holo feel while maintaining compatibility (at least back
> to 2.0+)
Good news??? That's GREAT news..!!!
You must have got wind of the Gingerbread Union we were forming...
:-)
It appears to me that a overwhelming number of posters on this group are pre-ICS. You can probably come up with several different reasons for this but I just thought it noteworthy ........ :)
Rich...
I agree with the priorities. I've been meaning to make a car dock, but after spending about half an hour playing with scenes, it was pretty clear to me that web view is the way to go for UIs.
That doesn't happen.
BTW Pent, did you see that Tasker was featured on The App Clinic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqRGSxOtlo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
While I abhor the current number picker, it's totally understandable. Do whatever you need to do to put out the product you're happy with.
>
> I tried SlidingMenu for projects. Nice, but doesn't allow things to be
> dragged
> around while the menu is showing unfortunately, so project refiling
> would have
> to be via long-click-and-select, which is a step backwards I think.
In my opinion ( for what that is worth....) I think a long click and select would be better on the small screens (I do not own a tablet). I find the drag and drop to be cumbersome because you can only drag so far then if you wait for the scroll it will usually que up and get difficult .. and my thumb is sometimes blocking where the drop will be. So a long press and paste would be more accurate as well... with 'flick to scroll' I think it would be faster when moving many places.. just My humble opinion...
Rich....
Forgot to mention it would do away with all the false moves.. :)
I myself would vote to keep drag and drop. I've never had any
issues with it since setting drag area to left-most side. However, I am
on a tablet and therefore don't experience the problems you have.
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I would be very disappointed to see you go, Cptnodegard. You have helped me with many Tasker projects that I struggled with on my own.
Tasker was also featured on Android Design in Action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF8uvG2Onuw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I have to admit the part about learning curve there, most of the people I suggest to use Tasker will usually said it's not so easy to use. Most of them will ask for step by step instructions from me.
But I'm not really sure the problem is in UI also. Maybe it's just lack of tutorial in the beginning or something.
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why should I type Action's name instead of couple of taps on category->Action button?!