Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

[Maafu Palu]

Kau tangata,

Ko e ki'i pepa ena 'oku mau tufa he fonua ni ki hotau kakai ke nau lava 'o tali'aki ki he 'ohomai 'a e Mamonga.

Ko e me'a mahu'inga ke fakamatala'i, 'oku vaofi 'etau tui mo e Mamonga, 'i he 'i ai 'a e TOKO TOLU KEHEKEHE 'i he 'Otua, ka ko e TAHA'I'OTUA 'o 'ikai ko e TOLU'I'OTUA.

Kuo fuoloa fau 'etau feinga ke fakamatala'i 'a e Tolu-Taha'i 'Otua 'o fakamamafa'i 'ene Taha, ka tau li'aki 'a e Toko Tolu. 'Oku fu'u e'a mei he Tohitapu ia 'a e Toko Tolu (eg Papitaiso 'o Sisu, Lotu 'a Sisu he Kolosi, Sio 'a Sitiveni ki he 'Alo he To'omata'u 'o e Tamai, mo e Haamai 'a e 'Otua mo e Lami 'i he Taloni 'o e 'Otua 'ia Fakahaa).

Ko e misiteli 'a 'enau TAHA pe 'a e TOKO TOLU KEHEKEHE ko eni.

'Ofa ke tokoni atu.

Si'oto'ofaatu

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Rev Dr Ma'afu'otu'itonga Palu

College Registrar

Senior Lecturer in Biblical Studies and Biblical Languages

Sia'atoutai Theological College, Nafualu, TONGA.

"Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to
Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")

[tino tahitu'a]

malo e tokoni Ma'afu --- On Mon, 5/20/13, Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Malo Maafu .

Sai ko eni 'oku kei ma'u pe ee.. hange ko e lau 'a Kavauhi 'oku faingata'a ke toutou ala e kau malanga ki he tolu taha,,,ka ko e me'a lelei ke 'oua na'a tuku ai hono hinoi'i e Siasi 'aki e fakaofiofi 'oku nau ma'u fekau'aki moe tokateline na.

'ofa atu.

 

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 'Oku 'iai 'ae asiasi takai holo ki he fakamamafa 'ae kakai 'oku 'ikai kenau tui ki he mali fakasotoma he ngahi Siasi Kalisitiane, tenau fai ha fu'u nga'unu lahi 'i he'enau feinga ke kainga 'ae founga 'o'enau fakaha loto 'i honau ngahi lotofale. Ku o mahino 'ae UCA 'oku 'iai 'a Kulupu ACC mo e ngahi Matakali 'oku nau tui tatau ai ki hono hala ke fai pehe 'i he Siasi.

'Oku haa mai leva mei he Anglican 'ae faka'amu ke ngaue fakataha 'i he founga fakaha loto 'ae ACC, pea ko e ngahi Kulupu 'evangelioo 'oku longomo'ui 'aupito he ngahi feitu'u kehe mei loto Sene(ACC Greets EFAC).

Neu fanongo he letio ki he pehe 'e Rudd mei he fa'ahi Leipa ,kuomafuli 'ene fakakaukau, ki he same sex,ka 'oku 'ikai taau ia ke fakamalohi'i 'e he Lao e kau faifekau mo ha kenau fakahoko ha ngahi Mali fakasotoma, 'o kapau 'oku 'ikai kenau loto ki aii..

toki hoko atu.

takamuli

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Ne u lau hifo he peesi 'e taha 'ae ongoongo ne fai mai 'ehe tangata'eiki sekelitali seniale 'a e Uesilana Tau'atainga 'o Tonga , Tkh, 'o pehe ai...Ne toki ma'u hake 'oku fai pe mali fakasiaina ia he ngahi 'Ofisi 'oe 'Amipasitoa Siaina 'i Tonga, pea kuo/'e liliu e lao ke fai pe mali he 'ofisi fakamaau'anga,'oku 'ikai toe hange ko ia kimu'a, ke toki fakakakato e Mali 'e he Siasi pea lau ia kuo Fakapule'anga 'ae mali ko ia,'o fakalao(fakatonutonu mai pe).

'Oku fakamafana ange 'a'ene pehe , tetau 'ofa ki he founga mali ne fakahoko 'e he Siasi...


takamuli

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[hingano pakileata]

Takamuli

Poupou atu he ka lele hotau kii fonua he founga koiaa mhlo ko e lahi ange ia e palopalema tautefito ki he mea fklaumalie..

[ikunam...@yahoo.com]

Malo Ma'afu pea 'oku mahu'inga foki 'a e ngaahi koloa koia ke fakahu ki he ngaahi komiti (siaatoutai, ako, ongo potungaue, konfelenisi) ke fakapapau'i hono ako'aki, tauhi mo tokoni'i'aki e kainga Uesiliana ki he'enau fakamo'oni ki honau 'Otua ko e Tamai, ko e 'Alo, ko e Laumalie.

Pea ke fakakau 'e he Potungaue Ako 'a e Siasi he'enau ngaahi lesoni Tohitapu ki ha polokalama lau akonaki (tokateline) 'a e Uesiliana.

'Ikai ngata ai, vakai'i foki mo e ngaahi akonaki tokoni mo'oe mo'ui mo e nofo hotau kainga he fakalakalaka 'o e mo'ui foki. Lahilahi e akonaki kiha fakama'ama'a e ngaahi 'ai me'anoa'ia fakakavenga 'a e siasi, kae ngaue atu kiha faka'aonga'i e ngaahi $$ talasiti ke tokoni'i honau kau memipa faingata'a'ia kihe ako'i e fanau. Kae tepuu 'a hono tokoni'i he ako fakalakalaka hotau kainga Uesiliana 'oku tokotoko fakapikopiko 'ikai fai ha ngaue tokoni ki he ngaahi famili pe ngaue ke fakasi'isi'i ha'anau masiva, mafasia, mo faingata'a'ia.

Kae mahalo ko ha 'uluaki ako fakalakalaka ke kamata 'i he Sia ha founga ngaue ke fetongi 'aki 'a e kolekole mola e hhh Ki'i olioli pe smile 'a Fakapulia kae tauhi pe kihe tu'unga 'oku kakato ai 'a e tolu taha.

Malo e ngaue lahi.
Lou

[Tevita Finau]

Malo Dr e tokoni. Hounga 'aupito. 'Ofa atu, tfinau

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Ne u toki fakapapau'i e news mei he letio 96.5fm he ho'ata ni, ta ko e taki malolo 'oe Leipa pea 'oku kei 'i he part Leipa, kuo liliu 'ene fakakaukau ki he same sex , 'o 'ikai kei tui tatau ia moe Palemia Sulia Kilaati, pehe ki he taki 'oe fa'ahi fakaanga, ka kuo ne pehe 'e ia " 'oku poupou ki he same sex kae operate kehekehe pee.. kuo u tui pe 'oku ne 'uhinga eni ki he Siasi moe Pule'anga.

Ko e fa'ahinga malele holo ko eni 'a Rudd,  'oku puhi holo ia 'e he matangi fakapolitikale ko e fie taki he Leipa,pea moe teuteu ki he fili Palemia he ta'u ni, ..mahalo 'oku sai pe aa 'a Sulia ia mo 'ene nofo ta'emali mo si'ono Hoa hufanga he fakatapu, 'ia Rudd.

takamuli

 

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 'Oku 'iai 'ae asiasi takai holo ki he fakamamafa 'ae kakai 'oku 'ikai kenau tui ki he mali fakasotoma he ngahi Siasi Kalisitiane, tenau fai ha fu'u nga'unu lahi 'i he'enau feinga ke kainga 'ae founga 'o'enau fakaha loto 'i honau ngahi lotofale. Ku o mahino 'ae UCA 'oku 'iai 'a Kulupu ACC mo e ngahi Matakali 'oku nau tui tatau ai ki hono hala ke fai pehe 'i he Siasi.

'Oku haa mai leva mei he Anglican 'ae faka'amu ke ngaue fakataha 'i he founga fakaha loto 'ae ACC, pea ko e ngahi Kulupu 'evangelioo 'oku longomo'ui 'aupito he ngahi feitu'u kehe mei loto Sene(ACC Greets EFAC)

Neu fanongo he letio ki he pehe 'e Rudd mei he fa'ahi Leipa ,kuomafuli 'ene fakakaukau, ki he same sex,ka 'oku 'ikai taau ia ke fakamalohi'i 'e he Lao e kau faifekau mo ha kenau fakahoko ha ngahi Mali fakasotoma, 'o kapau 'oku 'ikai kenau loto ki aii..

toki hoko atu.

takamuli

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[Finau Kaufusi]

malo mu'a e okooko mei he niuvakai mo hono fakataulama mai e ng nanunga 'o e fu'u mamani fakamanavahe ni  mo 'ene ng tafihu mo faliunga, ka he'ikai te tau ala ta'ofi 'a e ng sunami 'oku taku mo longomo'ui he kuonga ni (koe mo'oni  moe totonu faka e tangata)he ko hono ng fua e mo keikeinanga koe koto fakahe moe fakatau ki mala, Malo pe koe MAAMA 'O E FOLOFOLA koe pili e tauhala ke fai ai taupiki pea mo lusia ai pe ki TAULANGA!!!hahhah,,ka koe mo'oni kuo to 'a Kevin Rudd he usuusu pe mo hono friend 'o tui ia ki ai, ka ko mamani eni , koe 'ananga ia e fanga ngata fekai mo laione fekai atuuuu,,tu'u ke matu'u 'o 'oua ngaue, hange ha makatu'u 'i tahi,,,,,kau atu pe tui au,,,

2013/5/21 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

[Sitiveni]

Malo 'aupito Ma'afu. Kau Tasilisili, 'oku kei toe nai ha ngaahi tohi
'e 5 'a Ma'afu ki he Tolutaha'i'otua 'i heni 'o kapau 'oku ke fiema'u
'oku pa'anga 'e $15AU. Email hangatonu hake ka Ma'afu ke ne 'oatu 'a e
bank details kau toki mail atu 'e au 'a e tohi.

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi
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>  Tolu Tahai Otua Tali ki he Mamonga.pdf
> 104KViewDownload

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

He 'Uke ha Tuluta..malo 'e laumalie tau mo hono nahunahu'i 'o e ngahi tuluta'i laumalie 'oku anuanu ai e vahenga Campsie..

Malo e talanoa malie, ma'u pe ha'atau ngahi ongoongo 'i Kolo na pea fakalofa mai ki 'Uta ni.


takamuli
 

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[Finau Kaufusi]

Takamuli,malo mu'a , ka ko Nasaleti mo Petelihema tuku'uta, koe lelei ia moe tapuaki ne tafe mei ai, koe fanongo talanoa atu pe ki he kau Paionia,,ahhahah,,,'uke ha tuluta.

2013/5/21 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

 Mahalo 'oku lolotonga tofanga e feitu'u kotoa he nonofo 'ikai mali, pea mahalo ko e fe'au'auhi ia na'a hoko atu ki Tonga.. ko e mali fakamaau'anga pea mo fakasiaina.

Ki Tonga , pea mo ha Tonga 'oku hee 'i he Kolope, 'oku taau ke ne mea'i lelei 'e ia 'e lelei 'of nofo mali, 'oku kau ai 'ae Siasi hono katoanga'i..kuo mea'i 'e he tokotaha kotoa hono lelei...

takamuli

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[Maafu Palu]

Veni,

Kataki mu'a kapau 'e lava 'o lii mai e 'uu tohi na ki Tonga ni pe
'ange ki ha taha ke ne to'oto'omai, he na'e toki taa mai e Pule
Bookshop 'anenai 'o 'eke pe 'oku kei toe e 'uu tohi ke 'ange ke
fakatau.

Mahalo Veni, 'e pau ange ia 'oku mahino mai e fiema'u, he 'e feinga pe
foki 'etau kau Tasilisili 'atautolu ke ma'u ta'etotongi e tohi na,
hhhh. 'Oku lahi mahalo hono fiema'u e tohi na ia 'e he kau Mamonga 'i
Tonga ni, hhh.

Si'oto'ofaatu

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[hingano pakileata]

Masii veni ha oku fuu mamafa pehee ai hhhh

[Sitiveni]

Koeni teu feinga ke 'oatu 'a pongipongi 'ia Makeleta hoa 'o Uike.
Ngano, ko 'ene 'alu ko ee ke toe si'i 'pehe 'a e tohi pea 'oku ki'i
hiki hake leva 'aki ha peseti e 10. Hhhhh. Ko hono tonu 'ona ke $45,
he 'oku sai e kakano 'o e tohi, pea mou 'ofa mai aa Ngano 'o 'ai mo
ki'i fktau ha me'a 'oku mamafa he ko e ngaahi me'a ia 'oku sai.
Hhhhhhhh... Fkpulia, 'oku kei fai pe feinga ki he ink 'o e photocopier
he neu pehe 'e au ko ha printer ka ta ko ee ko e misini ena ia 'oku
lahi. Hhhhh. Koeni 'oku fai pe hono vakai'i holo mo Takamuli.

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi
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On May 21, 6:24 pm, Maafu Palu <maafu.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Veni,
>
> Kataki mu'a kapau 'e lava 'o lii mai e 'uu tohi na ki Tonga ni pe
> 'ange ki ha taha ke ne to'oto'omai, he na'e toki taa mai e Pule
> Bookshop 'anenai 'o 'eke pe 'oku kei toe e 'uu tohi ke 'ange ke
> fakatau.
>
> Mahalo Veni, 'e pau ange ia 'oku mahino mai e fiema'u, he 'e feinga pe
> foki 'etau kau Tasilisili 'atautolu ke ma'u ta'etotongi e tohi na,
> hhhh. 'Oku lahi mahalo hono fiema'u e tohi na ia 'e he kau Mamonga 'i
> Tonga ni, hhh.
>
> Si'oto'ofaatu
>

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[hingano pakileata]

Veni

Poupou atu 'ai ai foki oku mau afford pe e $2.00 dollar hhhh. Veni kau e ngaahi kakano ia e tohi a Maafu he malie atu pea loloto pea oku  tau fkmlo pe ki he dr. heene fai e ngaue lahi koeni. Veni oku ou manatu au ki hoo tala e kakano e tohi ene sai he faa tuuaki e kau fktau meleni I maketi e ...meleni fktau lelei pea kakano foki, pehee atu e tama fktau talo ia "he oku I ai koaa ha meleni ia e tae kakano hhh"...ko e fie hua atu pe mo e umisi ki he koloa na Veni...

Ko e website 'a e Tasilisili ko e http://groups.google.com/group/tasilisili

[Maafu Palu]

Veni,

Malo ia ke u toki 'alu 'o 'ave ki he Bookshop.

Ngano, ko 'etau meleni 'i Sia'atoutai ni, 'oku mui pe ia ka 'oku
kalapu'i fakakolo pe hono seniti ko 'etau 'ofa pe he ki'i ngaue 'oku
fai.

Laulau pe 'e koe Tohitapu ne u 'atu heni, ko e tohi pe ia 'e tokoni
taha kiate koe, mo lotua mai aipe ngaue ko eni.

Si'oto'ofaatu

[Fatai Slender]

Ma'afu mo Veni,
 
'Oku toe 'a e tohi 'e 4 'iate au. Manatu'i Veni na'a ke 'omai e 'u tohi keu fakatau atu 'i Mascot pea na'a ku totongi atu pe 'e au 'a e 'u tohi peau tauhi pe ia 'e au 'o ngaue'aki ki he'eku ng. me'a'ofa birthday, mo e Xmas. Pea 'oku toe ai 'a e tohi 'e 4 ka 'oka 'oku fiema'u ia 'e ha taha 'i Aust. teu hiki ia 'e au 'o ki'i $ pe 'e 100 koe'uhi he 'oku 'ikai toe ma'u ia he taimi ni hhhhhhh tukukehe kapau 'e toe reprint pea 'e toki hifo leva 'o $50 pe. Pea 'oku kei toe pe mo e Halakinikini ki he vete 'o e
Tohitapu. Ka 'oku $150 ia heheheheh. Pea ma'u pe heni mo e Voice of Tongan Women mo e Kaunanga pehe pe ki he ng. tohi 'a e Puleako Maloloo. Siupeli Taliai. 
 
'Ofa atu
 

> Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 06:06:50 +1300
> Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua
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[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Ta ko e laipeli mo'oni ena ia... ha me'a 'oku toe holo ai mahu'inga ? hhh

'ofa atu.

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[Sitiveni]

Hhhhhh, Ngano neu fanongo au he me'a pehe pe 'i Vava'u he fuofua 'asi
ko ee 'a e seedless meleni 'i Tonga. Na'e toki pehe mai 'emau ki'i
motu'a 'amautolu ko 'Ioane ki he kakai, ko e meleni fk'ofo'ofa hono
kakano he 'oku 'ikai ke tengaa (hhf) 'o hange ko ia 'oku tau maheni mo
ia... Hhhhhhh.

On May 21, 10:20 pm, hingano pakileata <pakileatahing...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Veni
>
> Poupou atu 'ai ai foki oku mau afford pe e $2.00 dollar hhhh. Veni kau e
> ngaahi kakano ia e tohi a Maafu he malie atu pea loloto pea oku  tau fkmlo
> pe ki he dr. heene fai e ngaue lahi koeni. Veni oku ou manatu au ki hoo
> tala e kakano e tohi ene sai he faa tuuaki e kau fktau meleni I maketi e
> ...meleni fktau lelei pea kakano foki, pehee atu e tama fktau talo ia "he
> oku I ai koaa ha meleni ia e tae kakano hhh"...ko e fie hua atu pe mo e
> umisi ki he koloa na Veni...

[Sepesi H.Piukala]

Ko e 'ai e Tohi,pea vete mai e ha taha malanga ia o mahu'ingamalie ,tupu ai ha vatamaki he ngahi Siasi Fkkolo mo enau kau Faifekau hhh

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Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

[Penisimani Mone]

..hahaha!...poupou atu pe ki he tengaless meleni 'a e Loloo, Veni...malo ia, kolekole atu pe hena kia Sepesi mo Taaitoo na'a ma'u mai, ka ko e photocopier Samsung...ko e fakakoloa lahi ia ke print'aki e naunau ke tufa pe, kae toki vakai mai e naunau 'a Ma'afuu ki heni keu print mo ia 'ou toki fakatau ma'ama'a atu ai...malo e ngaue!...

2013/5/22 Sitiveni <skf...@gmail.com>

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fakapulia

[Sitiveni]

Hhhhhhh, 'Apelu, tauhi atu pe hena e ngaahi tohi koena ia he kuo ke
'osi totongi ia 'e koe. Hange ka au kuo out of print loua e
Halakinikini mo e Tolutaha pea ko e taimi ia 'oku hikihake ai hona
mahu'inga... Hhhhhh.

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi

On May 22, 7:23 am, Fatai Slender <fataislen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ma'afu mo Veni,
>
> 'Oku toe 'a e tohi 'e 4 'iate au. Manatu'i Veni na'a ke 'omai e 'u tohi keu fakatau atu 'i Mascot pea na'a ku totongi atu pe 'e au 'a e 'u tohi peau tauhi pe ia 'e au 'o ngaue'aki ki he'eku ng. me'a'ofa birthday, mo e Xmas. Pea 'oku toe ai 'a e tohi 'e 4 ka 'oka 'oku fiema'u ia 'e ha taha 'i Aust. teu hiki ia 'e au 'o ki'i $ pe 'e 100 koe'uhi he 'oku 'ikai toe ma'u ia he taimi ni hhhhhhh tukukehe kapau 'e toe reprint pea 'e toki hifo leva 'o $50 pe. Pea 'oku kei toe pe mo e Halakinikini ki he vete 'o e
> Tohitapu. Ka 'oku $150 ia heheheheh. Pea ma'u pe heni mo e Voice of Tongan Women mo e Kaunanga pehe pe ki he ng. tohi 'a e Puleako Maloloo. Siupeli Taliai.
>
> 'Ofa atu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 06:06:50 +1300
> > Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

> > From: maafu.p...@gmail.com

> > To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Veni,
>
> > Malo ia ke u toki 'alu 'o 'ave ki he Bookshop.
>
> > Ngano, ko 'etau meleni 'i Sia'atoutai ni, 'oku mui pe ia ka 'oku
> > kalapu'i fakakolo pe hono seniti ko 'etau 'ofa pe he ki'i ngaue 'oku
> > fai.
>
> > Laulau pe 'e koe Tohitapu ne u 'atu heni, ko e tohi pe ia 'e tokoni
> > taha kiate koe, mo lotua mai aipe ngaue ko eni.
>
> > Si'oto'ofaatu
>

> > On 5/22/13, hingano pakileata <pakileatahing...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Veni
>
> > > Poupou atu 'ai ai foki oku mau afford pe e $2.00 dollar hhhh. Veni kau e
> > > ngaahi kakano ia e tohi a Maafu he malie atu pea loloto pea oku tau fkmlo
> > > pe ki he dr. heene fai e ngaue lahi koeni. Veni oku ou manatu au ki hoo
> > > tala e kakano e tohi ene sai he faa tuuaki e kau fktau meleni I maketi e
> > > ...meleni fktau lelei pea kakano foki, pehee atu e tama fktau talo ia "he
> > > oku I ai koaa ha meleni ia e tae kakano hhh"...ko e fie hua atu pe mo e
> > > umisi ki he koloa na Veni...

> > >> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

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> > College Registrar
> > Senior Lecturer in Biblical Studies and Biblical Languages
> > Sia'atoutai Theological College, Nafualu, TONGA.
>
> > "Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to
> > Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")
>
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[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

hhh... tuku ke toki fakasiosio na 'iai ha motu'i misini.. ne fakafo'ou foki e me'a ngaue 'ae kautaha pea ne lahi ai e kau ma'u printer mo e toner..ka 'o kapau 'e 'iai ha toe fakafou mai ..mani ko e Samsung ia mahalo 'e ma'u ia ki he 'ofisi 'o e Palemia hhh

takamuli

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Subject:

Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

..hahaha!...poupou atu pe ki he tengaless meleni 'a e Loloo, Veni...malo ia, kolekole atu pe hena kia Sepesi mo Taaitoo na'a ma'u mai, ka ko e photocopier Samsung...ko e fakakoloa lahi ia ke print'aki e naunau ke tufa pe, kae toki vakai mai e naunau 'a Ma'afuu ki heni keu print mo ia 'ou toki fakatau ma'ama'a atu ai...malo e ngaue!...

2013/5/22 Sitiveni <skf...@gmail.com>

Hhhhhh, Ngano neu fanongo au he me'a pehe pe 'i Vava'u he fuofua 'asi
ko ee 'a e seedless meleni 'i Tonga. Na'e toki pehe mai 'emau ki'i
motu'a 'amautolu ko 'Ioane ki he kakai, ko e meleni fk'ofo'ofa hono
kakano he 'oku 'ikai ke tengaa (hhf) 'o hange ko ia 'oku tau maheni mo
ia... Hhhhhhh.

On May 21, 10:20 pm, hingano pakileata <pakileatahing..@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Veni
>
> Poupou atu 'ai ai foki oku mau afford pe e $2.00 dollar hhhh. Veni kau e
> ngaahi kakano ia e tohi a Maafu he malie atu pea loloto pea oku  tau fkmlo
> pe ki he dr. heene fai e ngaue lahi koeni. Veni oku ou manatu au ki hoo
> tala e kakano e tohi ene sai he faa tuuaki e kau fktau meleni I maketi e
> ...meleni fktau lelei pea kakano foki, pehee atu e tama fktau talo ia "he

> oku I ai koaa ha meleni ia e tae kakano hhh"..ko e fie hua atu pe mo e

> > > > tasilisili-unsubscribe@googlegroupscom

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

'Oku 'iai 'ae fiema'u Family Ministries Worker 'i homau Fai'angalotu, houa 'e 10 he Uike.. ko e houa foki 'e 2-5 finance ia 'e he ngahi famili 'eo Siasi , pea ko e hpua 'e 5 'oku mie he Synod ia he'enau approve ke 'iai ha taha pehe..

Moutolu 'oku tui tatau mo e ACC(Hinga e UCA, he'enau faka'ataa e nonofo fakasotoma ke faifekau, mo poupou ki hono feinga ke fakapaasi e nonofo fakasotoma he Siasi moe Pule'anga )), pea mo'ene kaveinga nague he UCA....mou fetu'utaki hake ki he Faifekau(Rev) Ian Weeks : ma...@belrose.unitingchurch.org.au

Ko e Rev Ian Weeks foki ko e Sea ia 'eo ACC 'o NSW..

Malo.

Takamuli

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

[hingano pakileata]

Hhhhhhh veni teu mte kt he meleni a vavau...poupou atu aipe ki he tuuaki e ngaahi mata'ikoloa na. Pea amusia e tangata tu'uaki ia e iai ene ngaahi tipi aana...talamonuu atu veni. Pea ko fkpulia ia oku osi felea ia hhhhh alu aiii

[Jione Havea]

'A ia ko e meleni Vava'u mo e Moli pito (navel) 'a Griffith ko e 'otai ma'a atu ia!

[Maafu Palu]

Veni,

Mau o atu ki Makave he Pekia 'oku 'omai ai e meleni enga, fakakaukau
au ko e fainaa vava'u, taa kuo 'osi faai atu a Vv ia mei he tengaless
ki he meleni enga.

'Oku ou tui ko e ngaahi tapuaki eni 'o e too 'a e 'ofa 'i Makave,
ueehh 'i 'Utui.

Si'oto'ofaatu

On 5/22/13, Jione Havea <jha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 'A ia ko e meleni Vava'u mo e Moli pito (navel) 'a Griffith ko e 'otai ma'a
> atu ia!
>

> --
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Ma'afu, ko hono polopolo'i ena 'a e kolosi 'o e meleni & faina., 'a ia 'oku 'ikai ke fu'u engeenga hange ha faina pe kulokula hange ko e meleni, ka 'oku  'i he vaha'a 'o e enga mo e kula, 'a ia ko e lanu Melo ia.......he he he

From: Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

Veni,

Mau o atu ki Makave he Pekia 'oku 'omai ai e meleni enga, fakakaukau
au ko e fainaa vava'u, taa kuo 'osi faai atu a Vv ia mei he tengaless
ki he meleni enga.

'Oku ou tui ko e ngaahi tapuaki eni 'o e too 'a e 'ofa 'i Makave,

ueehh 'i 'Utui..

Si'oto'ofaatu

On 5/22/13, Jione Havea <jha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 'A ia ko e meleni Vava'u mo e Moli pito (navel) 'a Griffith ko e 'otai ma'a
> atu ia!
>
> --
> --
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> tasil...@googlegroups.com
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College Registrar
Senior Lecturer in Biblical Studies and Biblical Languages
Sia'atoutai Theological College, Nafualu, TONGA.

"Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to
Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")

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[hingano pakileata]

Hhhhhhhhhhjh siuhu malie vv e fakafitaa mereni hhh. Maafu oku hoko maupe foki a vv ia ko e hakenga ia o e ngaahi akau fua kolosi ee. Koma atu kau lele o fai eku huo...

[Sitiveni]

Hhhhhhh,,, Ma'afu talaange ka Soni ke uta mai e meleni Makave na 'o to
hena he Sia na'a tokoni atu ka Fkpulia mo e fanau ki he ngaahi feinga
pa'anga 'a e kolisi,,, hhhhhh.

Nonga 'a e 'Eiki

On May 22, 11:39 am, Maafu Palu <maafu.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Veni,
>
> Mau o atu ki Makave he Pekia 'oku 'omai ai e meleni enga, fakakaukau
> au ko e fainaa vava'u, taa kuo 'osi faai atu a Vv ia mei he tengaless
> ki he meleni enga.
>
> 'Oku ou tui ko e ngaahi tapuaki eni 'o e too 'a e 'ofa 'i Makave,
> ueehh 'i 'Utui.
>
> Si'oto'ofaatu
>
> On 5/22/13, Jione Havea <jha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > 'A ia ko e meleni Vava'u mo e Moli pito (navel) 'a Griffith ko e 'otai ma'a
> > atu ia!
>
> > --
> > --
> > Ko e tu'asila ke 'ave ki ai ha'o tasilisili ko e
> > tasil...@googlegroups.com
> > Ke to'o ho tu'asila mei he memipa he Tasilisili, email ki he
> > tasilisili-...@googlegroups.com

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[Maafu Palu]

Hehehe Veni,

'Oku ou fa'a fakakaukau au ko e meleni mui 'oku fa'a 'omai heni mei
Loto'api meia Fakapulia mo e kau ma'u mafai, ta ko eni kuo 'osi a'u
mai pe ia ki heni hhhh

Si'oto'ofaatu

> Ko e website 'a e Tasilisili ko e http://groups.google.com/group/tasilisili

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[Sitiveni]

Hhhhhhh,,, Ngano ko e hake kotoa ange pe foki ha me'a fo'ou ki Tonga
'e tomu'a 'ahi'ahi'i pe foki 'i Tonga'eiki pea toki paasi ai ki motu.
Talamai he ki'i motu'a vaheloto ko Kiteau ne ngoue ki Hahake 'a e
folelei 'a e tengaless hono to he kelekele Hahake. Hhhhhhh... 'Oua
teke hoha'a Ngano he koena 'e ngali afe e Sia 'o invest he meleni enga
mei Makave. Hhhhhhhh.

Nonga 'a e 'Eiki


On May 22, 11:49 am, hingano pakileata <pakileatahing...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hhhhhhhhhhjh siuhu malie vv e fakafitaa mereni hhh. Maafu oku hoko maupe
> foki a vv ia ko e hakenga ia o e ngaahi akau fua kolosi ee. Koma atu kau
> lele o fai eku huo...

> > > For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

[Sione M. Veituna]

A piece of our history for those of you who are interested!

Today May 22, is a special day in the history of Tongan Methodism.

According to Elizabeth Wood-Ellem, "ON May 22 the Wesleyan Mission in Tonga ceased to exist and its members joined the reunited Free Wesleyan Church" (QST, p.114). Apparently the date she is referring to is May 22 of 1924. This particular date of course had marked the genesis of a new Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga (The Methhodist Church in Tonga).

NB: the new reunited FWC was the official reunion between the Old Free Wesleyan Church or old SUTT of 1885(often known as Free Church) and Wesleyan Mission in Tonga of 1826 (also known in and after 1885 as Uesiliana Fakaongo)to form the current Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga or SUTT)

Oku ikai ko ha hala faingofua naé fou mai ai á e Lotu Uesiliana í Tonga (Tongan Methodism) mei áneafi, pea neongo oku lau ko onopooni eni; kae talaéhai óku manifi ai e  ngaahi faingataá oku tau fenapasi mo ia he áho ni. Oku tau fakafetaí he tauhi ófa mo e tataki á e Mafimafi he taú ko eni e 89 kuo tau folau mai ai, ko e fehuí - Ko ha átaua é fai ke toe ásili lelei ai á étau ngaue he taú koeni é mei hivangofulu (22 May 2014) etau fononga mai ko e Siasi?

malo mo e ofa,
Maánanga

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From: Jione Havea <jha...@gmail.com>
To: Tasilisili <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:35 PM

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

'A ia ko e meleni Vava'u mo e Moli pito (navel) 'a Griffith ko e 'otai ma'a atu ia!

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Tltl malo e Koloa ko ia ketau fakafeta'i ai...

'ofa atu.

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Sent:

Tue, 21 May 2013 19:33:23 -0700 (PDT)

Subject:

[tasilisili] Today in the History of Tongan Methodism (22 Me 1924)

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

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To:

<tasil...@googlegroups.com>

Cc:

Sent:

Tue, 21 May 2013 14:36:04 +1000

Subject:

Re: [tasilisili] Mei he Niuvakai

He 'Uke ha Tuluta..malo 'e laumalie tau mo hono nahunahu'i 'o e ngahi tuluta'i laumalie 'oku anuanu ai e vahenga Campsie..

Malo e talanoa malie, ma'u pe ha'atau ngahi ongoongo 'i Kolo na pea fakalofa mai ki 'Uta ni.


takamuli
 

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Re: [tasilisili] Mei he Niuvakai

malo mu'a e okooko mei he niuvakai mo hono fakataulama mai e ng nanunga 'o e fu'u mamani fakamanavahe ni  mo 'ene ng tafihu mo faliunga, ka he'ikai te tau ala ta'ofi 'a e ng sunami 'oku taku mo longomo'ui he kuonga ni (koe mo'oni  moe totonu faka e tangata)he ko hono ng fua e mo keikeinanga koe koto fakahe moe fakatau ki mala, Malo pe koe MAAMA 'O E FOLOFOLA koe pili e tauhala ke fai ai taupiki pea mo lusia ai pe ki TAULANGA!!!hahhah,,ka koe mo'oni kuo to 'a Kevin Rudd he usuusu pe mo hono friend 'o tui ia ki ai, ka ko mamani eni , koe 'ananga ia e fanga ngata fekai mo laione fekai atuuuu,,tu'u ke matu'u 'o 'oua ngaue, hange ha makatu'u 'i tahi,,,,,kau atu pe tui au,,,

2013/5/21 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

Ne u toki fakapapau'i e news mei he letio 96.5fm he ho'ata ni, ta ko e taki malolo 'oe Leipa pea 'oku kei 'i he part Leipa, kuo liliu 'ene fakakaukau ki he same sex , 'o 'ikai kei tui tatau ia moe Palemia Sulia Kilaati, pehe ki he taki 'oe fa'ahi fakaanga, ka kuo ne pehe 'e ia " 'oku poupou ki he same sex kae operate kehekehe pee.. kuo u tui pe 'oku ne 'uhinga eni ki he Siasi moe Pule'anga.

Ko e fa'ahinga malele holo ko eni 'a Rudd,  'oku puhi holo ia 'e he matangi fakapolitikale ko e fie taki he Leipa,pea moe teuteu ki he fili Palemia he ta'u ni, ..mahalo 'oku sai pe aa 'a Sulia ia mo 'ene nofo ta'emali mo si'ono Hoa hufanga he fakatapu, 'ia Rudd.

takamuli

 

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Cc:

Sent:

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Subject:

[tasilisili] Mei he Niuvakai

 'Oku 'iai 'ae asiasi takai holo ki he fakamamafa 'ae kakai 'oku 'ikai kenau tui ki he mali fakasotoma he ngahi Siasi Kalisitiane, tenau fai ha fu'u nga'unu lahi 'i he'enau feinga ke kainga 'ae founga 'o'enau fakaha loto 'i honau ngahi lotofale. Ku o mahino 'ae UCA 'oku 'iai 'a Kulupu ACC mo e ngahi Matakali 'oku nau tui tatau ai ki hono hala ke fai pehe 'i he Siasi.

'Oku haa mai leva mei he Anglican 'ae faka'amu ke ngaue fakataha 'i he founga fakaha loto 'ae ACC, pea ko e ngahi Kulupu 'evangelioo 'oku longomo'ui 'aupito he ngahi feitu'u kehe mei loto Sene(ACC Greets EFAC)

Neu fanongo he letio ki he pehe 'e Rudd mei he fa'ahi Leipa ,kuomafuli 'ene fakakaukau, ki he same sex,ka 'oku 'ikai taau ia ke fakamalohi'i 'e he Lao e kau faifekau mo ha kenau fakahoko ha ngahi Mali fakasotoma, 'o kapau 'oku 'ikai kenau loto ki aii..

toki hoko atu.

takamuli

[Penisimani Mone]

...hehehe!...ne 'osi 'omi mei Niu Sila e kalasi meleni 'e taha 'o 'ahi'ahi 'i vao ni, ka na'e ki'i li'aki ta'efana ia 'e he kau ngauee, pea ki'i taunga loloa ia 'o hangee ko e pulu kaukauu, 'o te peluki pe ongo mui'i melenii 'o fetaulaki kae 'ikai pe ke mafahi ia, pea ka tukuange ai, ke tokanga pe 'a e kau ofi aii na'a punakaki atu 'o tau ha taha...hahaha!...'aaalu ai pulu keukeu...'ai mo 'aa mai tfinau 'oua e fu'u lolongo...kau lele ai ki he malanga Puleluluu na'a tuku.

2013/5/22 Sitiveni <skf...@gmail.com>

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fakapulia

[Semisi Kava]

Malo Sione e fakamanatu mai 'ae malohinga 'oe lolotonga koe ta fihi 'ae kuo hili....koe ha'aku 'ahi'ahi ki he fehu'i na'a ke tuku mai....Koe me'a te ne faka'a'asili 'ae fononga'anga 'oe vaka 'oe Siasi he lolotonga koe 'ene toe fakapapau'iange pe 'oku muimui'i lelei 'e he'ene palani ngaue 'ae "Mission Statement" 'ae Siasi pe 'ikai? He 'e tala mei ai 'ae "ofi moe mama'o" ki he tefito'i ngaue 'ae siasi koe "ngaohi laumalie" ma'ae Pule'anga 'oe 'Otua. Pea he'ikai te tau ala hola mei he ola he 'oku malava ke tala ia mei he ola 'oe tohi kakai...pea moe tu'unga lolotonga 'oe ngaahi siasi fakakolo he 'aho ni.....malo talanoa Sione

 

Kavauhi

From: Sione M. Veituna <svei...@yahoo.com>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:33 PM

Subject: [tasilisili] Today in the History of Tongan Methodism (22 Me 1924)

A piece of our history for those of you who are interested!

Today May 22, is a special day in the history of Tongan Methodism.

According to Elizabeth Wood-Ellem, "ON May 22 the Wesleyan Mission in Tonga ceased to exist and its members joined the reunited Free Wesleyan Church" (QST, p.114). Apparently the date she is referring to is May 22 of 1924. This particular date of course had marked the genesis of a new Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga (The Methhodist Church in Tonga).

NB: the new reunited FWC was the official reunion between the Old Free Wesleyan Church or old SUTT of 1885(often known as Free Church) and Wesleyan Mission in Tonga of 1826 (also known in and after 1885 as Uesiliana Fakaongo)to form the current Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga or SUTT)

Oku ikai ko ha hala faingofua naé fou mai ai á e Lotu Uesiliana í Tonga (Tongan Methodism) mei áneafi, pea neongo oku lau ko onopooni eni; kae talaéhai óku manifi ai e  ngaahi faingataá oku tau fenapasi mo ia he áho ni. Oku tau fakafetaí he tauhi ófa mo e tataki á e Mafimafi he taú ko eni e 89 kuo tau folau mai ai, ko e fehuí - Ko ha átaua é fai ke toe ásili lelei ai á étau ngaue he taú koeni é mei hivangofulu (22 May 2014) etau fononga mai ko e Siasi?

malo mo e ofa,
Maánanga

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Kavauhi,

Naé ai á e lea malie naé fai é he faiongoongo Katolika (investigative Catholic journalist) heéne observe á e hisitolia pe tukuáu mai á e Lotu Uesiliana (Methodism) naá ne fakamaópoópo ai ó ne pehee, "to be true to Wesley is not to follow Methodism blindly but to be, like Wesley, opened up to the leadership of the Holy Spirit."

Ka kiate au, I take this observation to mean that Wesley was not only a man of One Book (homo unius libri); but he was also a leader (a faifekau) who listened carefully and followed closely the leadership of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Trinity.

É lava pe mei hena ke tau siofi ai pe oku i fe hotau vaka he áho ni. Kai kehe mou toki hokoí atu hena kau afe o vakai e kau folau koeni pe ko e ha sií meá oku nau tokanga mai ki ai

ofa atu ai pe mo e lotu
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[Sione M. Veituna]

Malo Lotopoha,fefe hake á Sau Faupula ki he uike ni? lol

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malo e ngaue faifekau pea malie lahi e langlanga talanoa kuo fai. ko e
fifili totonu ena kuo ke fai pea felave'itonu mo e ngaahi maafihunga
fklotu, fke tauhi mo pule'i 'oe siasi pe a pehe foki ki he toe
felave'i mo e ngaahi fuakava ngaue 'a e tangata mo e fefine ngaue he
fungavaka 'o e siasi, tautefito ki he sutt foki.

'ofa atu mo e lotu
lotopoha

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> A piece of our history for those of you who are interested!
> Today May 22, is a special day in the history of Tongan Methodism
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[Penisimani Mone]

Mahalo ko e taha e maka taufatunga motu'a 'o e Trinity ko e Gk "perichoresis", Latin "circumincessio", Eng "mutual interpenetration", pea kuo te'eki keu 'ilo hano fakatonga lelei mei a Ma'afu, Mohenoa, Nasili, Jione, etc., ' 'etau kau tu'umu'a 'i he lotukalafii Tongaa, 'a ia ko e fakakaukau nai 'o e malava 'e ha taha 'o e toko tolu 'i he 'Otua pe tahaa ke ne hu atu ki he ongo toko ua ko ee 'o nau 'i ai fakataha pe 'i he ngaue 'a e tokotaha ko iaa, pea malava ke hu mai kiate ia 'a e toko ua ko ee 'i he 'Otua pe tahaa 'o nau 'i ai fakataha pe 'i ha'ana ngaue, ka nau kei takitaha tauhi pe 'enau takitaha divine awareness kehekehe (against monotheism & modalism),'o 'ikai te nau mix ai ke form another new God, pe divide ai ke nau tokotolu kehekehe he 'Otua kehekehe 'e toko tolu (against tritheisim).

e.g. Gen 1:1-3 Na'e fakatupu 'e he 'Otuaa [Tamai Mafimafi] 'a mamani. Ko fee leva ai 'a e 'Aloo mo e Laumalie Ma'oni'onii? Na'a nau perichoresis kotoa pe ai, pea 'oku 'ikai ha tui pehe ni 'a e monotheism, modalism, pe tritheism ka ko e Trinity pe nai.

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Kau Faifekau ;;;;;;;; vakai na'a hanga 'ehe tohi na ia o fakamavae'ii
au moe fe'ofo'ofani kuou "FEOHI" AI mohoku kaunga inukava meihe
fungavaka koee.........

Fefee ke 'ai pe koe tohi ke fai kiai ha lautohi, pea ka 'iai ha 'aho
kuou hiki atu kita kihe Funga vaka koia, pea 'oua na'a hoko ia koha
me'a ketau Fesitu'aki ai koe 'uhi koe " TOLU TAHA'I 'OTUA " ,,,,,,

He kuou tui au 'oku ikai mahu'inga e 3 , 1 , 'otua ia ihe 'eku FEOHI
mo Fe'inasi'aki fiefia mohoku kaunga Lotu koee, oku mau fengauea'ki
pea oku ou faka'apa'apa kihe me'a oku nau omai pea oku nau
faka'apa'apa kihe me'a oku mau 'oatu ............. Pea kohono ola oku
Ha pea maama mai ihe FEOHI 'AE FOFO'ANGA 'O SENEE ,,

Kau faifekau, mou kataki pe kapau koe afungi 'eni ia 'a'aku, ka oku
ikai keu lau Siasi au ia,,,,,,,,,, Kuou fai tatau 'eku Feohi he ngaahi
Siasi moe Feoihi kuou fai i Fofo'anga.....

"teu puke ma'u 'eku Ipu 'oe fuakava, 'koe lau pe ua koe taha ..

malo..

sami.

[Sifa Hingano]

Tokanga atu au Fakapulia kihe kalasi kehekehe 'e tolu 'oe meleni 'oku 'asi 'i Tonga na,ka 'oku nau kei meleni pe,  ko'ene ngali fihi pe 'ana koe ngaue 'ae meleni meihe Sia ka koe meleni.

Sifa Higano,
Pastor, Genesis UMC

[hingano pakileata]

Mlo laumlie a Maananga, ko e afe noa pe he malieia mai homou felafoaki he histolia mlie koeni...mhlo oku totonu ke ave mea ni ki he fktaha a e koni...fuu lhi e lg fale hhhhhh ofa atu..

[hingano pakileata]

Hhhhhhh Veni gali lele sia he pisinisi meleni e poupou....hhhh ko hoo lea ka likuola he nae lea mai ka koe hhhhh vakai atu ki hihifo....vakai fklelei fkpulia e faahinga meleni koena he oku ou tui ko e ohofia ia ehe kulokula....hhhh.. mlo e fkkoloa malie

[Maafu Palu]

Malo Sami,

Pea 'oku ou fiefia ho'o lea mai, 'o 'ikai te u lau ko ha 'afungi ia. Ko e mo'oni 'a ho'o tokanga.

'Oku te'eki ke tuku e feohi ia mo e kau Pisope Mamonga he Fofo'anga heni, pea 'oku a'u pe ki he talamai 'e he Pisope Fofo'anga 'e taha kiate au, 'oku fa'a sio he'eku Polokalama TV heni he Tolu-Taha'i 'Otua pea 'oku ne malie'ia 'aupito ai.

Ne a'u pe ki he taa mai 'a e toko taha mei he Mamonga kiate au, 'o talamai 'ene fiefia 'a'ana 'i he mahino kiate ia 'a 'eku fa'a fakamatala 'a e Tolu Taha'i 'Otua he TV he'ene kehekehe mo 'enau tui he Mamonga, pea neongo 'oku 'ita 'aupito e tokolahi honau kaingalotu ai, ka 'oku mahino kiate ia, ko e tu'utu'uni ke tukuange 'ene Tui Mamonga, 'oku 'a'ana pe ia ke fai.

'Oku pau pe ke fai e fatongia ni Sami, 'i he 'ofa ki he kau Mamonga kotoa pe. He'ikai te tau fakamatala pe mo'oni (Tolu-Taha'i 'Otua) kae 'ikai te tau lea ai ki he loi (Tolu'i 'Otua [Mamonga], Taha'i 'Otua [Fakamo'oni Sihova]). Ko e fatongia ni, ke fakamahino 'a e Mo'oni 'oku tau tu'u ai, 'o fai 'i he laumalie 'ofa lahi ki he kakai kotoa pe, 'o 'ikai ko e laumalie 'o e taaufehi'a.

Ko e me'a 'a e tangata mo e fefine taki taha, 'i he tataki ia 'e he Laumalie 'o e 'Otua, ke ne fili pe te ne tukuange 'ene Mamonga mo 'ene Fakamo'oni Sihova.

Ka 'okapau kuo fekau 'e he 'Otua ke 'oua na'a toe ai ha 'Otua kehe 'o ua'aki Ia (Ekisoto 20:3), pea taa 'oku 'ikai ko ha Tolu'i 'Otua ia (Mamonga). Pea kapau kuo fekau 'e Sisu ke papitaiso 'ene kau ako 'i he huafa 'o e Tamai, mo e 'Alo mo e Laumalie Ma'oni'oni (Matiu 28:18-20), pea taa 'oku ai ha Toko Tolu 'oku 'afifio 'i he Taha'i 'Otua, 'o 'ikai ko e Taha'i Sihova pea ngata ai (Fakamo'oni Sihova].

Si'oto'ofaaatu

[tv]

Malo Sami pea koe fokotu'u mahu'inga ena kuo ke 'omai.

Kiate au koe me'a mahu'inga ke te kamata ai he talanoa moe fungavaka 'o e Mamonga, tautefito ki he fa'ahinga a'usia 'a e tokolahi he kainga Mamonga, koe kamata he exclusivecy of Jesus!

Koe tolu-taha'i-'otua ia, kapau 'oku fihi pee mo ta'emahino kia kitautolu tokolahi, pea fefee ai ha'ata kamata talanoa'i e trinity moe fangatokoua ko ia.

Talaange pe 'e koe ki ho kaungaa LDS oku tau tatau pe he pehee 'oku nau mahino'i pea tau mahino'i e fo'i tokaateline ko eni, ka 'oku hala'ataa ke mahino ia. Koe fehu'i mahalo ke 'oange - 'oku fe'unga 'anoa nai pe 'a e me'a na'e fai 'e Sisu he kolosi? Pea kapau 'oku toe ki'i sio fk'ilongaua pe toe pehee mai ... tanaki atu mo e haa moe haa.... pea ke talaange ke mo inukava pee aa pea 'ai ha'amo takeaway pea lava ia poo ko ia. (pea ke totongi mo manatu'i ke ke lotu).

Talamonuu ai pe

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[Lousiale Uasike]

Malo Ma'afu pehe kia Sami 'a e tokangaekina e tauhia 'o hotau kakai. 'Oku ou mahu'inga ke oo fakataha 'a e akonaki totonu 'aonga ki honau laumalie (mo'ui ta'engata) mo e ngaahi ngaue tokoni'i e kakai 'i he mo'ui ko 'eni mei he ngaahi fatongia fakasiasi fakamafasia. Ko e ha e tokoni 'a e Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua ki he mafasia mo e masiva 'a e ngaahi famili Uesiliana? ngaue popula? palopalema fakafamili? cycle of violence 'a Toloa? prostitution and women on street? teenage pregnancy? unjustices? etc. etc. 

He neongo 'a e akonaki 'oku hala 'a e tui 'a e Mamonga, ka 'oku kei kivoi pe 'a hono kau taki hono ako'aki 'enau siasi mo'oni pea toe tokaki foki ki hono kau muimui ke nau fakamo'oni pehe, ki he siasi mo'oni. Kae toe tepuu, ko e fakama'ama'a 'e he siasi 'enau ngaahi mafasia'anga he nofo ko 'eni, pea toe fai mo e fakalakalaka ma'ae kaha'u honau ngaahi famili he ako 'enau fanau. - - - Ko e mahu'inga ia kiate au Ma'afu, ke tanaki ki ho'o polokalama TV, 'a e 'ave 'a e ngaahi tokoni 'oku ke fai ke authorize 'e he ngaahi Komiti Pule (+ Komiti Ako) pea ke fakakau ki he silapa ako 'a e ngaahi ako'anga, ke akonekina 'aki 'a e fanau.

'Oku ho'ata mei he ngaahi nounou fakapa'anga 'oku mo'ua ai 'a e kau faifekau mo e ngaahi kaingalotu ne hoko ai, 'a e vivili e masiva 'a e kakai (fakataha pe 'a e faifekau mo e kakai). Ko e ha e me'a 'oku fai ai e masiva? Ko e ha e ma'u'anga pa'anga 'a e ngaahi famili Uesiliana he ta'u? Ko e ngaahi famili Uesiliana 'e fiha 'oku ma'u'api tukuhau, 'e ala fai hano ngaue'i? Ko e ha e me'a 'oku 'alu lahi ki ai e ma'u'anga pa'anga 'a e ki'i famili Uesiliana he ta'u? Ko e ha e tu'unga fakaako mo e levolo fakaako 'o e ngaahi famili Uesiliana? 

Mahino 'a e ma'u ia he Tohi Kakai, pea hange 'oku ngali fai 'a e hoha'a pe ia he tokolahi (tupu pe holo) 'o e SUTT fakalukufua, kae 'ikai fai hano 'analaiso 'a e ngaahi fakamatala kehe 'o e ngaahi famili Uesiliana, ke ala fakaofiofi 'a e tukunga totonu (sosiale, 'ekonomika etc.) 'a e ngaahi famili. Ko ha ngaahi fakamatala pehe, 'e lava ke fai ha fakafuofua ki he ha hono kei 'aonga 'a e polokalama lolotonga (Tokateline Akonaki mo 'ene ngaahi toto'onga lotu) 'oku fai 'e he Siasi mo 'ene ngaahi Potungaue ki he tauhia 'aki 'a kinautolu 'oku kei oli'ia ke lotu Uesiliana?

Malo e ngaue.

Lou.

[Lousiale Uasike]

Malo Veituna 'a e tafutafu mai ha ngaahi oli 'o e Lotu Uesiliana Tonga 'e ala tokoni ki he ngaahi polokalama fakaSUTT kuo ngali nga'unu atu 'i ha 'uhinga fakafepaki'i 'o e Mamonga mo 'enau visone mo e misiona ma'ae kakai Tonga ki he ta'u 'e fiha ka hoko.

Te u ki'i siosio atu he "leadership of the Holy Spirit" mo e tu'unga 'o e Siasi he fatongia leadership 'a e kau taki mo e kau faifekau. Akonaki maheni 'o e "ma'u pe ha malohi 'o ka hifo 'a e Laumalie Ma'oni'oni", 'o e "Laumalie ko e Taukapo, 'o ne fai 'a e tataki ki he ngaahi mo'oni hono kotoa pe", ma'u ko ia 'a e Laumalie, "hoko ko e kau fakamo'oni . . . ki he ngata'anga 'o mamani." 'Oku ma'u malohi 'a e ngaahi famili Uesiliana he ngaahi polokalama fakaSiasi 'oku tauhi? 'Oku tokoni ha'anau malohi fakalaumalie ki ha'anau malohi he ngaahi me'a 'i tu'a 'o e mo'ui mo e nofo? (sosiale, 'ekonomika, famili, ako etc.) 'Oku nau malohi ke fakamo'oni he mo'ui mo e ngaue? fakamo'oni fiefia? vekeveke? longomo'ui? fevahevahe'aki? fe'inasi'aki? fakamo'oni he ngaahi kavei koula 'o e mo'ui mo e nofo 'a e Tonga? 'Oku nau malohi ke nofoma'u ki he mo'oni 'oku tataki kinautolu ki ai 'e he Taukapo? malohi ke nofoma'u ki he tokateline fakaSUTT hahaha.

Ko e 'aliaki pe.

Lou.

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[hingano pakileata]

Tv

Kau atu ki ai mo ena alu sio faiva no inu coke hhh

Poupou atu Sami ki he feohi pea kapau oku fainga malie e toua mamonga pea vahevahe atu ki ai.....ofa atu

[Kalolo Fihaki]

Faifekau Toketa Ma'afu,

Kau fakataha he fakamalo atu he kaveinga mahu'inga kuo ke vetevete mai, pea kuo a'u mai ki Nu'usila ni 'a e mafola mai 'a e ngaahi fakamatala 'o e Tolutaha'I 'Otua ho'o fa'a fakahoko he Televisone mo e ki'i pepa kuo tufa mai, pea kuo mau lave ai he koloa mahu'inga ni.

Ko e fifili 'oku fai Faifekau Toketa Ma'afu koeha kuo 'alu aipe 'a e 'aho mo e tupu tokolahi ange 'a e siasi mamonga ia 'oku "tau pehe" kuo nau hala fakatohitapu, faka'uhinga, fakatokateline Tolu'i 'Otua kae holo 'a e tokolahi ia 'o e SUTT 'oku "tau pehe" 'oku mo'oni, 'oku fakatohitapu ange mo tonu ange 'etau tui ki he Tulo Taha'I 'Otua?

Ngali mo'oni 'a e fahua 'a e motu'a Hihifo "Toki hala aipe ka koho mou siasi eni 'e 'osi mai "

'ofa atu.
K Fihaki (Fuakava Ta'engata 'o Kenani)

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Malie tama e fo'i 'ai ko iaa.. Meleni NZ, Sia'atoutai mo e Vv... tolu ni ko e meleni pe..

Hange fehu'i 'a Fakapulia,ko ha'atau pehe , What is NOrth , in North ? hhh

 takamuli

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[Lousiale Uasike]

meleni fe'unga ki he faikakai smiles 'a fakapulia. 'ikai toe mole suka pe fiema'u fakalanu he 'e fakamelie pe mo fakalanu 'e ne lanu kehekehe 'o e meleni na. hhhhh Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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 Meleni 'a NZ engeenga ia , Meleni 'a Sia'atoutai pepenu ia, Meleni 'a Vv tengaless ia... kei meleni pe ee

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[Aisea Matangi]

Malo e felafoaki pea malo mo hono mateaki'i homau ngaahi fatongia fakafaifekau, ke fakataulama'i 'a e siasi, koe'uhi ko ha sunami 'oku tu'unuku mai. Pea ke fakatalatala kapau kuo fai ha mo'utamakia ha fakatamaki.

 

Kalolo, 'ikai teu tui au ko e holo 'a e kakai SUTT ki he ngaahi siasi ko e me'a fakatokateline. Kou tui au ko e hola he kuo lahilahi e fehangahangai e me'a 'oku malanga'i mo e me'a 'oku fai. 'Oku tau poto tautolu hono malanga'i e me'a kae hange 'oku poto 'a e kautama ia ko e hono fai e me'a ko ia.

 

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[Saikolone Taufa]

Aisea, ‘ikai keu ‘ilo pe koe ha  ne nofonofo ai ‘ae kau kk ia ‘oe senituli ‘uluaki pea nau fa’u e fo’i tokateline fakapiko ko’eni kehaa, ‘ikai kenau fakataha atu pe ‘o ‘ai ha’anau kumete pea ta moha tame’a pea inuinu ai pe pea matuku ki ‘api ‘o takitaha fai ha me’a ‘oku ‘aonga.. koe ‘atunga ee kuo tau mo’uhangaa tautolu he feinga ke mahinoo kae ‘osi e kau inukava ia he matuku.

 

Matamata koe Tolu-taha’i ‘Otua koe taha pe ia he’etau ngaahi feinga he havala ke ‘iai ha mahino mai ‘oe ‘Otua ‘oku tau lotu kiai, hange pe koe ngaahi imisi, fakakaukau, model moe ha fua e ngaahi me’a ‘oku tau ala ngaue’aki ke fakafetaulaki’i ‘etau mahino moe ‘Otuaa. Ka kohono fakama’opo’opo ‘a ‘ene lelei moe kovi, ‘aonga mo  ‘ikai ‘aonga, tonu pea moe hala ‘oe ngaahi imisi pe model faka’otua ‘oku tau ngaue ‘aki ‘e makatu’unga kotoa pe he olaa ‘o ‘etau fakafotunga’i ia he mo’ui ‘ae kakai he ko’eni moe kaha’u.

 

Matamata mei he ngaahi me’a ‘oku tau vakai, fanongo mo ‘ilo’i he taimi ni, ‘oku ngali ‘aonga, lelei, tonu ange ‘ae model’i ‘Otua ‘ae Mamonga ee, he ‘oku nau tupu kaukaua ange fakalaumalie, fakasino, fakapa’anga pea tupu kaukau fakamemipa foki.. koe toe pe ‘eni ‘ae maama kaha’u pe ko hai ‘e tupu aiii..pea kapau oku ‘ikai pau pe ‘oku ‘iai koaa ha toe maama kaha’u ka ko’eni pe, pea ta he toki me’a fakamamahi mo’oni eee. Moe ‘ofa moe lotu. Lone

 

 

[tv]

Mo'oni e lau ia ko ena 'Aisea Matangi- 'ikai koe 'uhinga fktokateline 'oku hiki ai e tokolahi ki ha fungavaka kehe.

Kapau 'e fai 'etau homework 'o 'eke kia kinautolu kuo hiki ki ha fungavaka kehe 'e mahalo 'e holomu atu e fa'ahinga Sapate fkmanatu ko eni 'o parking ka e 'ai ha Sapate fkmamafa e tauhi pa'anga lelei pe langa fale lotu fk fe'unga pe , pe Sapate fk fe'unga pe lukuluku moe fo'i manioke oku ma'u, etc.

Ko e ngaahi fehu'i 'a Lou ke tali 'e he siasi kapau 'oku tokanga ki he holo hono kau memipa!

Ko e taimi 'oku ou fa'a 'ita ai he LDS ko e ha'u 'enau kau missionary 'o 'ai ke papi mo siasi kimautolu ko eni 'oku 'osi 'i ai pe homau siasi pea 'ikai ifi tapaka, inu olokaholo, coffe, pe coke....fa'a mei tuki 'e au e ongo faifekau LDS 'oku fa'a afe mai 'o 'ai ke mau talanoa fklotu.

Ka koe LDS oku ou pehee koe lelei taha ia 'i he fokotu'utu'u fkngauee pea mo 'aonga ki he mo'ui. Teuteu lelei mo ma'a (mo namu lelei, hufanga atu), poto he fksosiale, pea fu'u  ma'olunga 'e nau tokoanga'i mo fk'ai'ai e famili lelei. Sometimes that's commendable and much more Christ-like.

Talamonuu ai pe

[Aisea Matangi]

Lone, koe me'a ia kou 'uhinga ki ai. Kuo tau toe ta'emahino pe tautolu he'etau feinga ke mahino 'a e fu'u me'a 'oku mahino ngofua pe ia.

 

Oku tau lau pe mei he tohitapu fakataha mo 'etau ngaahi a'usia 'o mahino ko hotau 'Otua ko hono uho ko e 'Ofa. Ko hono finangalo kia kitautolu ke tau fakaha ki mamani 'a e 'ofa ko ia, 'i he lea (malanga'i) mo e ngaue.

 

Ko ia kou pehe tuku 'a e fakafekiki fakatokateline ia, pea tuku e 'ai ia tonu e kae hala e. Hangehange kia au kuo tau kaukaua 'a e SUTT ia he malanga'i 'o e 'ofa. Kaukaua 'a e Mamonga ia he fakasino 'a e 'ofa ko ia. Fefe ke 'oua 'e tamate'i 'a e taha  kae 'ai pe ia 'o fakataha'i he ko 'ene toki kakato ia 'a e fekau na'e tala ke fai. Pea ka pehe pea 'ai pe 'o ui ko e, "Siasi Uesiliana 'o e Kau Ma'oni'oni 'o e Lolotonga." ... ko e fifili faka KK pe foki .......Hi hi hi hi lele ke vave

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[Saikolone Taufa]

‘Aia ‘Aisea ‘e fakanounou leva ia koe SUKML, meimei sikalamu eee ‘ouaa kake lele atu keta lele, toki tu’u pe ki ha falekalapu ee.. moe ‘ofa moe lotu. Lone

 

[tv]

Ongo tangata, 'oua pee na'a tau fksi'isi'i 'a Sisu mo e kolosi.

'Aisea, ko ho'o lau ki he 'ofa 'oku malie he koe tohi 'ae tama ko Rob Bell koe kaungaa ako hoku hoa - Love Wins, 'oku/pea na'e felaauaki ai e ngaahi Siasi fkkalisitiane. 

Toki vakai hake ki he google e Love Wins pea moe fetakai ko ia

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[Aisea Matangi]

Toe tu'u mai pe he ko Peni Fukofuka eni 'e tokoni mai katau toki kaunga lele fakataha ke ifo.........malie

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[Sami Pakofe]

Malo Kau Faifekau pehe kihe kau Tasilisili , e Talanoa malie pea moe
Ngaahi Fakamaama, Hange koia koe talanoa 'a Dr Palu, kuou fiefia iho'o
mou tali mai 'eku valelau, pea mou kataki pe he koe misni ve'e3 pe
'eni ikai makupusi 'ae v8..

Pea ko'ene pehee leva, heikai teu lava ke fakatataua 'ae IVI moe Mafai
oku mou ma'u ke fakamatala'i 'ae 3Taha'i 'Otua,, Na'aku 'osi 'ave kihe
Tasilisili ihe 2003 'eku faka'uhinga moe mahino kiate au 'ae 3Taha'i
'Otua, pea ne kehe atu ia moe ngaahi Faka'uhinga moe ngaahi Fakatataa,
koe 'uhi neu nofo he taimi lahi peau vakai, oku Tonu 'e Mamonga.....
Fakatatau kihe talanoa 'ae Tohitapu..

'Uluaki 'aki 'eni,,,,, kapau leva kuo 'iai ha me'a koe "TAMAI moe FOHA
( 'ALO ) pea oku mahino mai koe me'a ia 'e 2, heikai toe lava ha taha
'i mamani 'o talamai oku ikai kehekehe, ka koe 'uhi koe 'iai 'ae
Laumalie Ma'oni'oni pea koia 'ae me'a neu nofo ai 'o fifili'i..

Heikai teu alamalava ke tala oku hala 'enauTokateline,,

ka koe 'uhi , tetau nofo koaa ke MO'UI FAKATOKATELINE , kae ikai ketau
nga'unu kihe NOFO FE'OFO'OFANI moe FEOHI MELIE ihe Nofo 'a Kainga ,
fakafamili, fakalotu, fakakolo, fakafonua fakaako fakangaue,
fakainukava, fakakaungame'a mo Fakakehekehe etc..

Oku ikai ha toe me'a kehe teu fiefia au ia ai, ka "koe Hoko mai 'a
Sisu ( koe 'alo tofupe ia 'e taha 'oe 'Otua koe Tamai ke PEKIA pea
TOETU'U , ke fakamolemole 'ekuangahala, kae lava ke 'iai
ha'akuFakatu'a melie atu kihe kaha'u moe mo'ui fo'ou ..

Koia pe oku nofo ma'u ai 'eku " Feohi" mohoku kaunga inukava, neongo
'emau tauhi mo mateaki kihe Ngaahi Tokateline moe Ngaahi Fungavaka
Kehekehe... Koe ' Kolosi mo'ene A'u mai kiate au" ihe IVI 'oe
Fakamolemole Angahala, pea mo'eku tali pe ta'e tali, ka koe me'a
mahu'inga taha pe ia kihe 'eku mo'ui,,,,,,,, he koe me'a ia oku
Fungani hake kiate au, 'a'eku Nofo fe'ofo'ofani pea mohoku "
kehekehe", 'o tau maiaa teu ala malava ke vakaili 'ae me'a oku ta'e
taea 'e hoku 'atamai,,, Ka koe Nofo ihe ' Feohi " moe Fe'ofo'ofani 'o
takitaha tauhi 'ene "" Fakatu'amelie kihe Mo'ui Kaha'u ", koia pe pea
toe faingofua...ka oku malava pe ketau tau ilo'ii lelei ia ihe fononga
'oku tau fai au i taimi ni...

Koe malava koee ke fakafa'uu taha ha "TUI" oku mafalo ihe ngaahi
Tokateline, pea koe tokime'a faingata'a, ka kohono Fakafa'uu taha ha
TUI ihe tokateline kehekehe, ka oku "UHo 'aki e Fe'ofo'ofani, pea oku
ikai 'iiai ha kehekehe, ka koe fiefia pe moe fe'ofo'ofani..

malo e tokoni moe fakamaama oku fai mai...

sami.

[Lasinga Piutau]

Oku mahu'inga pe kihe kau laukonga fakalongolongo  ke mou to'o fakafuofua pe 'ae ngaahi felafoaki ni, faifai ku   fata atu 'eha taha ia 'ae fu'u 'otu me'a ni 'o li ha'aki mai meihe funga tu'unga he Sapate 'oe tolu taha'i 'Otua kae hanga 'eha vaivai 'o tupangi hifo koe mei mo'unga. hhhhh, 'Ofa atu kihe teu 'oe Sapate 'oe Taha tolu., ,moe ngaahi siasi 'oku nau Sapate ako he uike ni, ofa moe hufia Likuola. --- On Thu, 23/5/13, Aisea Matangi <aisea....@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

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[hingano pakileata]

Ko ene mahino a hono fkmatalai pe malangai o e tolu tahai otua okapau e ikai ke mahinoi.pea iheene tae mahino kia kita a e tolu tahai otua pea koene tonu ia e foi tokateline koeni..he kapau e mahino kia kita pea ta ko e otua ia oku ikai koha otua ia oha misiteli .ka koha mea pe ia kuo te osi ilo.pea ko hono kii lahi mo hono katokatoa oku hagee pe ia haate ilo ki hono gaohi e ngoue meleni a fkpulia hhhhh. Ka kiha Otua oku tau lotu ki ai mo tui ko e misiteli ia pea ta oku tonu ketau talanoa pe ki ai o ikai lava ke mahinoi fkleveleva foki....hhhhh ko e fkkohukohu atu pe kihe ngaahi foi malaga fefeka koena kuo osi hono fau eeee likuola eee..

[Kitione Tuitupou]

Mo'oni e lau ia ko ena 'Aisea Matangi- 'ikai koe 'uhinga fktokateline 'oku hiki ai e tokolahi ki ha fungavaka kehe. Kapau 'e fai 'etau homework 'o 'eke kia kinautolu kuo hiki ki ha fungavaka kehe 'e mahalo 'e holomu atu e fa'ahinga Sapate fkmanatu ko eni 'o parking ka e 'ai ha Sapate fkmamafa e tauhi pa'anga lelei pe langa fale lotu fk fe'unga pe , pe Sapate fk fe'unga pe lukuluku moe fo'i manioke oku ma'u, etc.

-------------------------------------- Manatu ki he talanoa 'a e motu'a he'emau faikava, fakamalo lahi ki hotau siasi hono vete e ngaahi tokateline he ngaahi pakipaki. Ko hono pango he 'oku fu'u lele mu'a 'etau 'ilo kae fu'u fakatoupikoi hono fakahasino. Pea ne fai ai e ki'i talanoa ko eni. Ne si'i ketu atu e fine'eiki uitou ko e kaunga'api 'o e faifekau hotau siasi, ko e kole ha taha ke vau 'ene fo'i niu lolo'i 'ene haka. Ui hake, 'oku 'ikai tali mai 'e taha ia he 'oku lolotonga tatangulu e faifekau ia he na'e 'ahoia ia he pakipaki. 'Ai ai mo e mokomoko 'a e fu'u fale fungavaka na'e langa 'e he siasi fakakolo pea 'ikai ongona si'i le'o 'o e uitou. Situ'a mai e uitou mo e lue lalo atu 'a e ongo faifekau Mamonga 'o 'eke ki he uitou pe ko e ha ha me'a te na ala tokoni ai. Ko 'ene mahino pe fiema'u 'a e uitou, kuo tuiaekemo 'ena manga atu 'o si'i vau e niu 'a e uitou, tolo mo 'ene haka 'o moho, tafi, huo mo hiko e veve. Fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he uitou ke nau kaihaka pea toe fai 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga ia mo 'enau lotu. Talaange 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga te na toe afe mai pe 'a uhu ka toe fiema'u ha tokoni. Ko e 'osi pe tokoni 'o e 'aho 'e taha mo e fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga e uitou ki he'enau lotu he Sapate pea iku ai pe ki he papi. Ka na'e 'ikai ngata heni hono tokangaekina e fiema'u 'a e uitou ka na'e hokohoko atu ai pe. Vakai na'a kuo tau fu'u fakapalataha ki hono haihaiane'i e tokateline kae fusimo'omo ha'a tau fakahasino 'a e 'ofa 'a e 'Otua ki hotau kaunga'api!!

[Lousiale Uasike]

EXACTLY!

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[hingano pakileata]

Ko e fekau foki ia, ketau ofa pea fkhaa e ofa koiaa ihe'ete ngaue'i. He toki me'a faingataa mooni....

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[Penisimani Mone]

Malo Ma'afu e ma'u ha'atau fakatonga lelei ki he perichoresis, 'a ia ko e "fefiohi/fenofo'aki" 'a e 'afifio 'i he taha'i'Otuaa.

Mahalo ko e maka taufatunga motu'a hono ua 'o e tui ni ko e "appropriation", faka'amu pe na'a ma'u ha'atau toe fakatonga ki ai, 'a ia neongo 'enau kau kotoa ha'anau maa'imoa; fakatupu, foaki lao, huhu'i, pekia, fakamo'ui, ako'i, taukapo'i, etc...ka 'oku appropriate pe 'a e fo'i ngaue takitaha ki ha tokotaha pe 'iate kinautolu, neongo 'oku nau fefiohi kotoa aipe 'i ai talu mei 'itaniti..

e.g. Neongo 'enau fefiohi kotoa he fakatupuu, ka 'oku appropriate pe ia ki he Tamaii...neongo 'enau fefiohi kotoa he foaki laoo, ka 'oku appropriate pe ia ki he Tamaii, neongo ai 'enau fefiohi kotoa  ministry/pekiaa, ka 'oku appropriate pe ia ki he 'Aloo, neongo 'enau fefiohi kotoa he tataki/ako'i e siasii, ka 'oku appropriate pe ia ki he Laumalie Ma'oni'onii, etc.

'Oku 'ikai ha tui pehe ni 'a e monotheism (Lotu Siuu, Islam, Bahai'i, JW, etc), pe modalism (one God revealed in three different modes..e.g.Sabellianism) pe poly/tritheism (toko tolu ko e tolu kehekehe aipe)...

Ko e lesoni ki he Sapate...Jn 16:13 Ka ‘oka hoko mai ‘a e Toko Taha ko ia, ‘a e Laumālie ‘o e Mo‘oni, te ne tataki kimoutolu ki he mo‘oni, hono kotoa; he tala‘ehai te ne lea ‘iate ia pē; ka ‘ilonga ha me‘a te ne fanongo ki ai, te ne lea‘aki: pea te ne fakahā kiate kimoutolu ‘a e ngaahi me‘a ‘oku tu‘unuku mai. 14 Ko au pē te ne fakalāngilangi‘i ‘e he toko taha ko ia: he te ne to‘o mei he me‘a ‘a‘ata, ‘o ne fakahaa‘ia kiate kimoutolu. 15 Ko e me‘a kotoa pē ‘oku ‘a e tamai ‘oku ‘a‘aku ia: ko hono ‘uhinga ia na‘a ku pehē ai, te ne to‘o mei he me‘a ‘a‘ata ‘o fakahā kiate kimoutolu

Ko e ministry nai eni 'a e 'Aloo, ka ko fe ai 'a e Tamaii mo e Laumaliee?...'oku nau fefiohi (perichoresis) aipe heni 'a e Tamai, 'Alo mo e Laumalie, ka 'oku appropriate pe e folofola ko enii ki he 'Aloo. ...Again.. 'Oku lolotonga tataki/lea'aki/fakahaa/etc 'e Laumalie 'a e Siasii he 'aho ni, ko fee leva ai e Tamaii mo e 'Aloo?...'oku nau fefiohi aipe talu mei mu'a.., ka 'oku appropriate pe eni he lolotongaa kia Laumaliee Ma'oni'oni...ko ia 'oku kei malava ai 'e he Trinity ke toko tolu 'i he awareness/relationship in one God pe,  without dividing them into three Gods

Mahalo ko hono 'uhinga ia 'oku 'ikai malava ai 'e he ngaahi lotu monotheistic 'o tali 'a Sisu ke 'Otua mo'oni, pea 'e lotu fakamuna 'a Sisu ia ki he Tamaii 'i he modalism, pea faingata'a ki he tritheism ia ke faka'uhinga'i e "fefiohii" mo e appropriation pea nau divide 'enautolu e 'Otuaa ke 'Otua kehekehe 'e tokotolu... pea mahalo ko e taha ia 'uhinga 'oku te lotu Uesiliana (Holy Trinity) aipe kita...

...ka ko e anga pe vakai...

2013/5/22 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

Mahalo ko e taha e maka taufatunga motu'a 'o e Trinity ko e Gk "perichoresis", Latin "circumincessio", Eng "mutual interpenetration", pea kuo te'eki keu 'ilo hano fakatonga lelei mei a Ma'afu, Mohenoa, Nasili, Jione, etc., ' 'etau kau tu'umu'a 'i he lotukalafii Tongaa, 'a ia ko e fakakaukau nai 'o e malava 'e ha taha 'o e toko tolu 'i he 'Otua pe tahaa ke ne hu atu ki he ongo toko ua ko ee 'o nau 'i ai fakataha pe 'i he ngaue 'a e tokotaha ko iaa, pea malava ke hu mai kiate ia 'a e toko ua ko ee 'i he 'Otua pe tahaa 'o nau 'i ai fakataha pe 'i ha'ana ngaue, ka nau kei takitaha tauhi pe 'enau takitaha divine awareness kehekehe (against monotheism & modalism),'o 'ikai te nau mix ai ke form another new God, pe divide ai ke nau tokotolu kehekehe he 'Otua kehekehe 'e toko tolu (against tritheisim).

e.g. Gen 1:1-3 Na'e fakatupu 'e he 'Otuaa [Tamai Mafimafi] 'a mamani. Ko fee leva ai 'a e 'Aloo mo e Laumalie Ma'oni'onii? Na'a nau perichoresis kotoa pe ai, pea 'oku 'ikai ha tui pehe ni 'a e monotheism, modalism, pe tritheism ka ko e Trinity pe nai.

2013/5/22 Sitiveni <skf...@gmail.com>

Hhhhhhh, 'Apelu, tauhi atu pe hena e ngaahi tohi koena ia he kuo ke
'osi totongi ia 'e koe. Hange ka au kuo out of print loua e
Halakinikini mo e Tolutaha pea ko e taimi ia 'oku hikihake ai hona

mahu'inga... Hhhhhh.

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi

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> Tohitapu. Ka 'oku $150 ia heheheheh. Pea ma'u pe heni mo e Voice of Tongan Women mo e Kaunanga pehe pe ki he ng. tohi 'a e Puleako Maloloo. Siupeli Taliai.
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> > Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

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> > To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
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> > Veni,
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> > Malo ia ke u toki 'alu 'o 'ave ki he Bookshop.
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> > Ngano, ko 'etau meleni 'i Sia'atoutai ni, 'oku mui pe ia ka 'oku
> > kalapu'i fakakolo pe hono seniti ko 'etau 'ofa pe he ki'i ngaue 'oku
> > fai.
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> > taha kiate koe, mo lotua mai aipe ngaue ko eni.
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> > Si'oto'ofaatu
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> > >> > >> Sio 'a Sitiveni ki he 'Alo he To'omata'u 'o e Tamai, mo e Haamai 'a

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Kiate au ko e ongo mea kehekehe pe a hono talanoai e tokateline mo hono ngauei pe ko e moui aki...kohono moui aki ko e me'a fkfo'ituitui pe ia. Neongo ete tonounou ke tulituli fua atu ki he maolunga mo e loloto o e tokateline ka oku ikai ko ha me'afua ia kete fua aki etonu mo e tae totonu...ko e fkkohu holo pe...

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[Penisimani Mone]

Te manatu ai kita ki si'i Faifekau ko Lata-i-faingata'a Tau'ataina...ka lue ke huo ha'ane ma'ala 'i 'uta, ka ne fou atu ha 'api 'o ha taha 'oku huo mai, pea afe aipe ia ke na huo 'ene ma'alaa kae toki vakai ha 'aho 'ene ma'alaa 'a'ana. Faifai pea 'ilo 'e he kakaii, pea ka nau vakai kuo 'alu atu e faifekauu ki 'uta, pea nau toi na'a afe ange 'a Lata 'o huo ai kae kei li'aki pe 'ene ma'alaa 'ana...pea neongo e fakalongolongo 'a 'ene fanauu...te faka'apa'apa aipe kia Saluni, Timote, etc...he 'oku kei lea e ngauee..
 

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Peni, ko e mo'oni ho'o lau. Taimi ia kei ma'u ta'ovala pe kau tangata'eiki faifekau he lue ki tokanga pea ha'amo mo e huo lafalafa 'o la'ila'iva'e ki 'uta. Founga ia 'oku faingofua ai e afe, pea 'ilongofua ai e kaungafononga. Fu'u vave foki hotau 'aho, 'oku heka me'a lele pe 'o fai ai e haehaeane, pea ko e hu'u ko e hu'u ia ki kolo. Pea ka fai ha afe, 'oku 'ikai ko e taumu'a ia ke tokoni, ka ko e kole ha tokoni..........Hange 'oku tau poto 'aupito tautolu he kole tokoni, ka tau potongata'a he tokoni. Malie kau Sia tuku a e hu ta'ovala holo.................Mou ma'u ha faka'osinga uike lelei

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Te manatu ai kita ki si'i Faifekau ko Lata-i-faingata'a Tau'ataina...ka lue ke huo ha'ane ma'ala 'i 'uta, ka ne fou atu ha 'api 'o ha taha 'oku huo mai, pea afe aipe ia ke na huo 'ene ma'alaa kae toki vakai ha 'aho 'ene ma'alaa 'a'ana. Faifai pea 'ilo 'e he kakaii, pea ka nau vakai kuo 'alu atu e faifekauu ki 'uta, pea nau toi na'a afe ange 'a Lata 'o huo ai kae kei li'aki pe 'ene ma'alaa 'ana...pea neongo e fakalongolongo 'a 'ene fanauu...te faka'apa'apa aipe kia Saluni, Timote, etc...he 'oku kei lea e ngauee.. 

2013/5/24 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

Kiate au ko e ongo mea kehekehe pe a hono talanoai e tokateline mo hono ngauei pe ko e moui aki...kohono moui aki ko e me'a fkfo'ituitui pe ia. Neongo ete tonounou ke tulituli fua atu ki he maolunga mo e loloto o e tokateline ka oku ikai ko ha me'afua ia kete fua aki etonu mo e tae totonu...ko e fkkohu holo pe...

On 24/05/2013 6:02 AM, "Kitione Tuitupou" <ktui...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mo'oni e lau ia ko ena 'Aisea Matangi- 'ikai koe 'uhinga fktokateline 'oku hiki ai e tokolahi ki ha fungavaka kehe. Kapau 'e fai 'etau homework 'o 'eke kia kinautolu kuo hiki ki ha fungavaka kehe 'e mahalo 'e holomu atu e fa'ahinga Sapate fkmanatu ko eni 'o parking ka e 'ai ha Sapate fkmamafa e tauhi pa'anga lelei pe langa fale lotu fk fe'unga pe , pe Sapate fk fe'unga pe lukuluku moe fo'i manioke oku ma'u, etc.

--------------------------------------Manatu ki he talanoa 'a e motu'a he'emau faikava, fakamalo lahi ki hotau siasi hono vete e ngaahi tokateline he ngaahi pakipaki. Ko hono pango he 'oku fu'u lele mu'a 'etau 'ilo kae fu'u fakatoupikoi hono fakahasino. Pea ne fai ai e ki'i talanoa ko eni. Ne si'i ketu atu e fine'eiki uitou ko e kaunga'api 'o e faifekau hotau siasi, ko e kole ha taha ke vau 'ene fo'i niu lolo'i 'ene haka. Ui hake, 'oku 'ikai tali mai 'e taha ia he 'oku lolotonga tatangulu e faifekau ia he na'e 'ahoia ia he pakipaki. 'Ai ai mo e mokomoko 'a e fu'u fale fungavaka na'e langa 'e he siasi fakakolo pea 'ikai ongona si'i le'o 'o e uitou. Situ'a mai e uitou mo e lue lalo atu 'a e ongo faifekau Mamonga 'o 'eke ki he uitou pe ko e ha ha me'a te na ala tokoni ai. Ko 'ene mahino pe fiema'u 'a e uitou, kuo tuiaekemo 'ena manga atu 'o si'i vau e niu 'a e uitou, tolo mo 'ene haka 'o moho, tafi, huo mo hiko e veve. Fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he uitou ke nau kaihaka pea toe fai 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga ia mo 'enau lotu. Talaange 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga te na toe afe mai pe 'a uhu ka toe fiema'u ha tokoni. Ko e 'osi pe tokoni 'o e 'aho 'e taha mo e fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga e uitou ki he'enau lotu he Sapate pea iku ai pe ki he papi. Ka na'e 'ikai ngata heni hono tokangaekina e fiema'u 'a e uitou ka na'e hokohoko atu ai pe.Vakai na'a kuo tau fu'u fakapalataha ki hono haihaiane'i e tokateline kae fusimo'omo ha'a tau fakahasino 'a e 'ofa 'a e 'Otua ki hotau kaunga'api!!

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.Aisea mo Hingano, 'oku holo 'aupito mai eni ke toe fai e toe huu ta'ovalaa he ngaahi kalapuu...Manatu ki si'i Maiauu (rip) he Koni 1997 'i Vava'u. Na'e fai 'enau kalapu mo e kau Hangoo 'i Sau Faupula, pea oo atu ha kau ta'ovala 'o fakapaheke ai, 'ai ai e inu lalahii mo e 'ahoiaa...faifai pea nau hola he po hokoo ki he Hall 'o e siasi Neiafuu, kae kei 'asi atu pe kau ta'ovalaa ki ai...si'i pehee pe Faifekauu...'Ofa mai aa sia'atoutai 'o tali aa 'a Sisu Kalaisi!...ko ia ai ongo tangata...'oku holo aipe...kae malo pe 'ofa 'a e kakai....

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Sea, kau ena he fo'i teolosia malie kuo 'iloa mai mei he Sia kimui ni 'aupito pe ia. Ko e 'osi mai pe tama kuo poto 'aupito ia he kole moe ta'efie 'alu ki 'uta. Ko e fakasiosio pe ha ki'i faingamalie kae fai mai ai ha folau ki muli ni. 'Osi atu e matu'a na'a nau fai lelei'i 'etau ngaue .. hahahaha .. kae hei'ilo ..

 

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Peni, ko e mo'oni ho'o lau. Taimi ia kei ma'u ta'ovala pe kau tangata'eiki faifekau he lue ki tokanga pea ha'amo mo e huo lafalafa 'o la'ila'iva'e ki 'uta. Founga ia 'oku faingofua ai e afe, pea 'ilongofua ai e kaungafononga. Fu'u vave foki hotau 'aho, 'oku heka me'a lele pe 'o fai ai e haehaeane, pea ko e hu'u ko e hu'u ia ki kolo. Pea ka fai ha afe, 'oku 'ikai ko e taumu'a ia ke tokoni, ka ko e kole ha tokoni..........Hange 'oku tau poto 'aupito tautolu he kole tokoni, ka tau potongata'a he tokoni. Malie kau Sia tuku a e hu ta'ovala holo.................Mou ma'u ha faka'osinga uike lelei

From: Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>
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Te manatu ai kita ki si'i Faifekau ko Lata-i-faingata'a Tau'ataina...ka lue ke huo ha'ane ma'ala 'i 'uta, ka ne fou atu ha 'api 'o ha taha 'oku huo mai, pea afe aipe ia ke na huo 'ene ma'alaa kae toki vakai ha 'aho 'ene ma'alaa 'a'ana. Faifai pea 'ilo 'e he kakaii, pea ka nau vakai kuo 'alu atu e faifekauu ki 'uta, pea nau toi na'a afe ange 'a Lata 'o huo ai kae kei li'aki pe 'ene ma'alaa 'ana...pea neongo e fakalongolongo 'a 'ene fanauu...te faka'apa'apa aipe kia Saluni, Timote, etc...he 'oku kei lea e ngauee..  

2013/5/24 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

Kiate au ko e ongo mea kehekehe pe a hono talanoai e tokateline mo hono ngauei pe ko e moui aki...kohono moui aki ko e me'a fkfo'ituitui pe ia. Neongo ete tonounou ke tulituli fua atu ki he maolunga mo e loloto o e tokateline ka oku ikai ko ha me'afua ia kete fua aki etonu mo e tae totonu...ko e fkkohu holo pe...

On 24/05/2013 6:02 AM, "Kitione Tuitupou" <ktui...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mo'oni e lau ia ko ena 'Aisea Matangi- 'ikai koe 'uhinga fktokateline 'oku hiki ai e tokolahi ki ha fungavaka kehe. Kapau 'e fai 'etau homework 'o 'eke kia kinautolu kuo hiki ki ha fungavaka kehe 'e mahalo 'e holomu atu e fa'ahinga Sapate fkmanatu ko eni 'o parking ka e 'ai ha Sapate fkmamafa e tauhi pa'anga lelei pe langa fale lotu fk fe'unga pe , pe Sapate fk fe'unga pe lukuluku moe fo'i manioke oku ma'u, etc.

-------------------------------------- Manatu ki he talanoa 'a e motu'a he'emau faikava, fakamalo lahi ki hotau siasi hono vete e ngaahi tokateline he ngaahi pakipaki. Ko hono pango he 'oku fu'u lele mu'a 'etau 'ilo kae fu'u fakatoupikoi hono fakahasino. Pea ne fai ai e ki'i talanoa ko eni. Ne si'i ketu atu e fine'eiki uitou ko e kaunga'api 'o e faifekau hotau siasi, ko e kole ha taha ke vau 'ene fo'i niu lolo'i 'ene haka. Ui hake, 'oku 'ikai tali mai 'e taha ia he 'oku lolotonga tatangulu e faifekau ia he na'e 'ahoia ia he pakipaki. 'Ai ai mo e mokomoko 'a e fu'u fale fungavaka na'e langa 'e he siasi fakakolo pea 'ikai ongona si'i le'o 'o e uitou. Situ'a mai e uitou mo e lue lalo atu 'a e ongo faifekau Mamonga 'o 'eke ki he uitou pe ko e ha ha me'a te na ala tokoni ai. Ko 'ene mahino pe fiema'u 'a e uitou, kuo tuiaekemo 'ena manga atu 'o si'i vau e niu 'a e uitou, tolo mo 'ene haka 'o moho, tafi, huo mo hiko e veve. Fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he uitou ke nau kaihaka pea toe fai 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga ia mo 'enau lotu. Talaange 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga te na toe afe mai pe 'a uhu ka toe fiema'u ha tokoni. Ko e 'osi pe tokoni 'o e 'aho 'e taha mo e fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga e uitou ki he'enau lotu he Sapate pea iku ai pe ki he papi. Ka na'e 'ikai ngata heni hono tokangaekina e fiema'u 'a e uitou ka na'e hokohoko atu ai pe. Vakai na'a kuo tau fu'u fakapalataha ki hono haihaiane'i e tokateline kae fusimo'omo ha'a tau fakahasino 'a e 'ofa 'a e 'Otua ki hotau kaunga'api!!

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Malo ena ia kapau kuo holo, he koe fiema'u pe ia ke fakaholoholo pe. Oua 'e fu'u tuku 'aupito he'e mole ai hotau lanu 'otautolu. Ka e ki'i fakafuofua pe. Ko homau taimi mo  Dr Ma'afu, oua hu ta'ovala ka ko e ta'ovala iiki pe, pea ka vahe mai ke lotu fai he vave taha mo teu lele pe na'a tuki ha taha. Ka kou fanongo, ko e taimi ni 'ai ai e ta'ovala lalahi mo e ngaahi fu'u kafa, pea ka toe vahe atu ki ha Sia ke lotu 'ai ai 'ene loloa moe putuputu 'a e lea Tonga, ka e kanoni'aki 'a e ta'emahino......pea toe paheke ia ko e motu'a fanifo 'ata...............Kamata mai ia he taimi 'o Hingano mo e kau kolisi mui  ko ia..................... he he moe 'ofa atu

 

 

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.Aisea mo Hingano, 'oku holo 'aupito mai eni ke toe fai e toe huu ta'ovalaa he ngaahi kalapuu...Manatu ki si'i Maiauu (rip) he Koni 1997 'i Vava'u. Na'e fai 'enau kalapu mo e kau Hangoo 'i Sau Faupula, pea oo atu ha kau ta'ovala 'o fakapaheke ai, 'ai ai e inu lalahii mo e 'ahoiaa...faifai pea nau hola he po hokoo ki he Hall 'o e siasi Neiafuu, kae kei 'asi atu pe kau ta'ovalaa ki ai...si'i pehee pe Faifekauu...'Ofa mai aa sia'atoutai 'o tali aa 'a Sisu Kalaisi!...ko ia ai ongo tangata...'oku holo aipe...kae malo pe 'ofa 'a e kakai....

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On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Lasinga Piutau <lasing...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oku mahu'inga pe kihe kau laukonga fakalongolongo  ke mou to'o fakafuofua pe 'ae ngaahi felafoaki ni, faifai ku   fata atu 'eha taha ia 'ae fu'u 'otu me'a ni 'o li ha'aki mai meihe funga tu'unga he Sapate 'oe tolu taha'i 'Otua kae hanga 'eha vaivai 'o tupangi hifo koe mei mo'unga. hhhhh, 'Ofa atu kihe teu 'oe Sapate 'oe Taha tolu., ,moe ngaahi siasi 'oku nau Sapate ako he uike ni, ofa moe hufia Likuola.
> --- On Thu, 23/5/13, Aisea Matangi <aisea....@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> From: Aisea Matangi <aisea....@xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua
> To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
> Received: Thursday, 23 May, 2013, 4:14 AM
>
> Lone, koe me'a ia kou 'uhinga ki ai. Kuo tau toe ta'emahino pe tautolu he'etau feinga ke mahino 'a e fu'u me'a 'oku mahino ngofua pe ia.
>  
> Oku tau lau pe mei he tohitapu fakataha mo 'etau ngaahi a'usia 'o mahino ko hotau 'Otua ko hono uho ko e 'Ofa. Ko hono finangalo kia kitautolu ke tau fakaha ki mamani 'a e 'ofa ko ia, 'i he lea (malanga'i) mo e ngaue.
>  
> Ko ia kou pehe tuku 'a e fakafekiki fakatokateline ia, pea tuku e 'ai ia tonu e kae hala e. Hangehange kia au kuo tau kaukaua 'a e SUTT ia he malanga'i 'o e 'ofa. Kaukaua 'a e Mamonga ia he fakasino 'a e 'ofa ko ia. Fefe ke 'oua 'e tamate'i 'a e taha  kae 'ai pe ia 'o fakataha'i he ko 'ene toki kakato ia 'a e fekau na'e tala ke fai. Pea ka pehe pea 'ai pe 'o ui ko e, "Siasi Uesiliana 'o e Kau Ma'oni'oni 'o e Lolotonga." ... ko e fifili faka KK pe foki .......Hi hi hi hi lele ke vave
> From: Saikolone Taufa <taufach...@xtra.co.nz>
> To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua
>
> Aisea, ‘ikai keu ‘ilo pe koe ha  ne nofonofo ai ‘ae kau kk ia ‘oe senituli ‘uluaki pea nau fa’u e fo
>

[hingano pakileata]

Hhhhh Aisea ko e mooni hoo talanoa ka ko e 'atunga ai pe ia siemau omi o alu pe he hala ne mou sii hela hono tanu ke holoitounga ai e kau muiaki hhhh. Alu atu au o inukava puke au e fkpulia mo maafu keu taovala hhhh pea talamai ko e ngaahi kaungaapi ko hotau ngaahi va'a tokua hihihihi....ko e taha pe ia e tokateline o e tolu tahai Otua ki he kau teu malanga he sapate...hee ti langi eee

[Sepesi H.Piukala]

Na'a ko ha taleniti ta'ovala ia,..ka e ta'ofi..hhh

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From: Taniela Moala
Sent: ‎24/‎05/‎2013 12:17 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

Sea, kau ena he fo'i teolosia malie kuo 'iloa mai mei he Sia kimui ni 'aupito pe ia. Ko e 'osi mai pe tama kuo poto 'aupito ia he kole moe ta'efie 'alu ki 'uta. Ko e fakasiosio pe ha ki'i faingamalie kae fai mai ai ha folau ki muli ni. 'Osi atu e matu'a na'a nau fai lelei'i 'etau ngaue .. hahahaha .. kae hei'ilo ..

 

Ma'ukakala

From: Aisea Matangi <aisea....@xtra.co.nz>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

Peni, ko e mo'oni ho'o lau. Taimi ia kei ma'u ta'ovala pe kau tangata'eiki faifekau he lue ki tokanga pea ha'amo mo e huo lafalafa 'o la'ila'iva'e ki 'uta. Founga ia 'oku faingofua ai e afe, pea 'ilongofua ai e kaungafononga. Fu'u vave foki hotau 'aho, 'oku heka me'a lele pe 'o fai ai e haehaeane, pea ko e hu'u ko e hu'u ia ki kolo. Pea ka fai ha afe, 'oku 'ikai ko e taumu'a ia ke tokoni, ka ko e kole ha tokoni..........Hange 'oku tau poto 'aupito tautolu he kole tokoni, ka tau potongata'a he tokoni. Malie kau Sia tuku a e hu ta'ovala holo.................Mou ma'u ha faka'osinga uike lelei

From: Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua

Te manatu ai kita ki si'i Faifekau ko Lata-i-faingata'a Tau'ataina...ka lue ke huo ha'ane ma'ala 'i 'uta, ka ne fou atu ha 'api 'o ha taha 'oku huo mai, pea afe aipe ia ke na huo 'ene ma'alaa kae toki vakai ha 'aho 'ene ma'alaa 'a'ana. Faifai pea 'ilo 'e he kakaii, pea ka nau vakai kuo 'alu atu e faifekauu ki 'uta, pea nau toi na'a afe ange 'a Lata 'o huo ai kae kei li'aki pe 'ene ma'alaa 'ana...pea neongo e fakalongolongo 'a 'ene fanauu...te faka'apa'apa aipe kia Saluni, Timote, etc...he 'oku kei lea e ngauee..  

2013/5/24 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

Kiate au ko e ongo mea kehekehe pe a hono talanoai e tokateline mo hono ngauei pe ko e moui aki...kohono moui aki ko e me'a fkfo'ituitui pe ia. Neongo ete tonounou ke tulituli fua atu ki he maolunga mo e loloto o e tokateline ka oku ikai ko ha me'afua ia kete fua aki etonu mo e tae totonu...ko e fkkohu holo pe...

On 24/05/2013 6:02 AM, "Kitione Tuitupou" <ktui...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mo'oni e lau ia ko ena 'Aisea Matangi- 'ikai koe 'uhinga fktokateline 'oku hiki ai e tokolahi ki ha fungavaka kehe. Kapau 'e fai 'etau homework 'o 'eke kia kinautolu kuo hiki ki ha fungavaka kehe 'e mahalo 'e holomu atu e fa'ahinga Sapate fkmanatu ko eni 'o parking ka e 'ai ha Sapate fkmamafa e tauhi pa'anga lelei pe langa fale lotu fk fe'unga pe , pe Sapate fk fe'unga pe lukuluku moe fo'i manioke oku ma'u, etc. -------------------------------------- Manatu ki he talanoa 'a e motu'a he'emau faikava, fakamalo lahi ki hotau siasi hono vete e ngaahi tokateline he ngaahi pakipaki. Ko hono pango he 'oku fu'u lele mu'a 'etau 'ilo kae fu'u fakatoupikoi hono fakahasino. Pea ne fai ai e ki'i talanoa ko eni. Ne si'i ketu atu e fine'eiki uitou ko e kaunga'api 'o e faifekau hotau siasi, ko e kole ha taha ke vau 'ene fo'i niu lolo'i 'ene haka. Ui hake, 'oku 'ikai tali mai 'e taha ia he 'oku lolotonga tatangulu e faifekau ia he na'e 'ahoia ia he pakipaki. 'Ai ai mo e mokomoko 'a e fu'u fale fungavaka na'e langa 'e he siasi fakakolo pea 'ikai ongona si'i le'o 'o e uitou. Situ'a mai e uitou mo e lue lalo atu 'a e ongo faifekau Mamonga 'o 'eke ki he uitou pe ko e ha ha me'a te na ala tokoni ai. Ko 'ene mahino pe fiema'u 'a e uitou, kuo tuiaekemo 'ena manga atu 'o si'i vau e niu 'a e uitou, tolo mo 'ene haka 'o moho, tafi, huo mo hiko e veve. Fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he uitou ke nau kaihaka pea toe fai 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga ia mo 'enau lotu. Talaange 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga te na toe afe mai pe 'a uhu ka toe fiema'u ha tokoni. Ko e 'osi pe tokoni 'o e 'aho 'e taha mo e fakaafe'i ai pe 'e he ongo faifekau Mamonga e uitou ki he'enau lotu he Sapate pea iku ai pe ki he papi. Ka na'e 'ikai ngata heni hono tokangaekina e fiema'u 'a e uitou ka na'e hokohoko atu ai pe. Vakai na'a kuo tau fu'u fakapalataha ki hono haihaiane'i e tokateline kae fusimo'omo ha'a tau fakahasino 'a e 'ofa 'a e 'Otua ki hotau kaunga'api!!

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[kolo]

Malie lahi ongo tangata e fepotalanoa'aki 'ihe kaveinga malie ko
eni.Na'a ku tupu hake au 'ihe Siasi na'e tala ia 'oku ua 'ae 'Otua ia
ai 'ihe fakapesona 'oe 'Otua,tolu 'ae LDS pea tolu taha'i 'Otua
kimoutolu.Neongo na'a mau tokosi'i fau ka na'e malie pea mafola 'o
'iloa 'i mamani.Koe taha 'o 'enau ngaahi 'apiako lalahi 'i 'Amelika
'oku tu'u 'i Pasatina.Na'a mau lau 'oku pesona 'ae Tamai moe 'Alo kae
ivi ngaue 'ae Laumalie.(Kalolo na'a ke mei ului mai.....
heheheeeee).Na'e ala mai moe kau 'akiolo lalahi 'o mamani 'o fakasio
kihe tupu'anga 'oe ngaahi fakakaukau ko 'eni pea 'oku 'alu pe 'o
fakama'u kihe fakama'opo'opo 'oe tolu taha'i 'Otua pe TRIAD.Na'e ngaue
'aki he'e kau 'Isipite koe ohi mei he kau taula 'a Nimilote 'i hono
taimi mo hono pule'anga 'i Shinnar lolotonga 'oku kei laumalie lelei
pe 'a Noa.Na'a nau fakama'opo'opo kihe TOLU TAHA'I 'OTUA he ko ia 'ae
fakakaukau motu'a taha kihe 'ilo moe fakaofiofi 'oku fai.Neongo 'oku
kehekehe pe 'e tau fakamatala'i mo faka'ulungaanga'i 'oe 'Otua he taki
taha a'usia.

Mo kataki koe 'ohonoa atu pe 'ihe malie 'oe talanoa...

Malo moe 'ofa,
Kolo.

On 22 Mei, 21:14, Aisea Matangi <aisea.mata...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> Lone, koe me'a ia kou 'uhinga ki ai. Kuo tau toe ta'emahino pe tautolu he'etau feinga ke mahino 'a e fu'u me'a 'oku mahino ngofua pe ia.
>
> Oku tau lau pe mei he tohitapu fakataha mo 'etau ngaahi a'usia 'o mahino ko hotau 'Otua ko hono uho ko e 'Ofa. Ko hono finangalo kia kitautolu ke tau fakaha ki mamani 'a e 'ofa ko ia, 'i he lea (malanga'i) mo e ngaue.
>
> Ko ia kou pehe tuku 'a e fakafekiki fakatokateline ia, pea tuku e 'ai ia tonu e kae hala e. Hangehange kia au kuo tau kaukaua 'a e SUTT ia he malanga'i 'o e 'ofa. Kaukaua 'a e Mamonga ia he fakasino 'a e 'ofa ko ia. Fefe ke 'oua 'e tamate'i 'a e taha  kae 'ai pe ia 'o fakataha'i he ko 'ene toki kakato ia 'a e fekau na'e tala ke fai. Pea ka pehe pea 'ai pe 'o ui ko e, "Siasi Uesiliana 'o e Kau Ma'oni'oni 'o e Lolotonga." ... ko e fifili faka KK pe foki .......Hi hi hi hi lele ke vave
>

> From: Saikolone Taufa <taufachchno...@xtra.co.nz>
> To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: Tolu-Taha'i-'Otua
>
> Aisea, ‘ikai keu ‘ilo pe koe ha  ne nofonofo ai ‘ae kau kk ia ‘oe senituli ‘uluaki pea nau fa’u e fo’i tokateline fakapiko ko’eni kehaa, ‘ikai kenau fakataha atu pe ‘o ‘ai ha’anau kumete pea ta moha tame’a pea inuinu ai pe pea matuku ki ‘api ‘o takitaha fai ha me’a ‘oku ‘aonga.. koe ‘atunga ee kuo tau mo’uhangaa tautolu he feinga ke mahinoo kae ‘osi e kau inukava ia he matuku.
>
> Matamata koe Tolu-taha’i ‘Otua koe taha pe ia he’etau ngaahi feinga he havala ke ‘iai ha mahino mai ‘oe ‘Otua ‘oku tau lotu kiai, hange pe koe ngaahi imisi, fakakaukau, model moe ha fua e ngaahi me’a ‘oku tau ala ngaue’aki ke fakafetaulaki’i ‘etau mahino moe ‘Otuaa. Ka kohono fakama’opo’opo ‘a ‘ene lelei moe kovi, ‘aonga mo  ‘ikai ‘aonga, tonu pea moe hala ‘oe ngaahi imisi pe model faka’otua ‘oku tau ngaue ‘aki ‘e makatu’unga kotoa pe he olaa ‘o ‘etau fakafotunga’i ia he mo’ui ‘ae kakai he ko’eni moe kaha’u.
>
> Matamata mei he ngaahi me’a ‘oku tau vakai, fanongo mo ‘ilo’i he taimi ni, ‘oku ngali ‘aonga, lelei, tonu ange ‘ae model’i ‘Otua ‘ae Mamonga ee, he ‘oku nau tupu kaukaua ange fakalaumalie, fakasino, fakapa’anga pea tupu kaukau fakamemipa foki.. koe toe pe ‘eni ‘ae maama kaha’u pe ko hai ‘e tupu aiii..pea kapau oku ‘ikai pau pe ‘oku ‘iai koaa ha toe maama kaha’u ka ko’eni pe, pea ta he toki me’a fakamamahi mo’oni eee. Moe ‘ofa moe lotu. Lone
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[tv]

Malo Fakapulia e laku mai e me'a 'aonga. Ka u lelenoa ai pee ... he 'oku ou sio hifo ki he naunau 'a Ma'afu 'oku pau ke kamata e talanoa ia mei he absolute total authority of the Bible (pea ko 'eku fokotu'u ia ke kamata e talanoa mo e ngaahi other faith 'i he exclusiveness of Jesus). Ka 'oku mahino foki kapau ko e ni'ihi eee 'iate kitautolu 'oku 'ikai ke tau tali e total authority of the Bible (manatu ki he tasilisili mo Lotopoha?), pea 'oku faingata'a leva ke make sense e naunau 'a Ma'afu, He hangee ko 'etau talanoa ki he kainga Mamonga - 'oku 'i ai foki mo 'enau tohi ia 'a nautolu 'e taha (pe 2 nai ..etc). Tatau mo e kainga Muslim ...etc.

So in a philosophical argument, trinity touches the nerve of Christianity because its our concept of God.

Ko e pehee ko ee 'e he 'Otua - he loves; what was he loving before creation, when he says 'he speaks', who was he speaking to before creation? Only in christianity love precede life! ko e lotu ko ee a Sisu ke tau taha hangee ko e taha 'a ia mo e Tamai - there is a 'love' to make reference to ...etc

Talamonu ai pe

2013/5/23 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

[Sami Pakofe]

Koe misiteli ‘o e Tolu-Taha’i-‘Otua‘i he lau pe Ua koe Taha

‘I he tohitapu ‘oku ua pe ‘a e fekau fekau’aki moe ‘ofa (love). Koe taha ‘oku motu'a pea taha ‘oku ki’i fo’ou ange. Koe taha ‘oku ‘ikai fu’u fiemau ha me’a pea taha ‘oku fiema’u hoto kotoa ke fakakakato.

Koe uluaki koe ‘ofa ki ho kaunga’api hange pe ko ho’o ‘ofa ia KOE “Love your neighbor as yourself” (Lev 19:18; Mt 19:19) –(pe ko hono toe liliu e taha ko ho’o me’a ko ‘eku me’a / ko ‘etau me’a). ‘Oku anga pehe ni he lau ‘a e kau KK kapau ‘oku ‘i he tepile ‘a e fo’i VB e 10 koe 5‘a ‘au pea 5 ‘a ‘aku. Tau vahe tatau pe ka ‘oku ‘ikai koe tangi ke tatau. (tuku kehe ‘a e kalasi ia ‘oku inu vave haha…)

Koe fekau hono ua ke mou fe’ofa’aki ‘o hange pe ko ‘eku ‘ofa’i kimoutolu “Love one another as I have loved you” (Jn 13:34; 15:12). ‘I la u ‘a e kau KK kapau koe foi VB e 10 he tepile – inu kotoa atu a ia e koe keke ongo’i pea tali mai leva ‘a Pili ia ‘oua hau pe ketau femolimoli pe ka tau ‘inasi.

‘I he ongo fekau ko ‘eni ‘oku hanga ai ‘e he natula ‘e lau pe UA koe TAHA ‘o veteki ‘a e natula ‘oe Tolu-Taha’i-‘Otua. ‘I he ‘ofa ‘ae Tamai ‘i hono ‘Alo na’a ne foaki (self-emptying) ai hono kotoa ma’ana 10 ‘ae‘Alo kae 0 ia. Tatau pe ia pea moe ‘ofa‘a e ‘Alo he Tamai ‘o ne foaki (self-emptying) ai hono kotoa ‘i he kolosi ma’a‘ae Tamai 10 ‘ae Tamai kae 0 e ‘Alo.

‘I he taimi tatau ‘oe fefoaki’aki ‘a e Tamai moe ‘Alo ‘oku ‘ikai ke hoko ia ke 10 e taha ka e 0 e taha. Ka ‘i he funga ‘oe foki pea moe tali e foaki oku ne fakafonu ai pe ‘a e Tamai moe ‘Alo he taimi tatau (this reciprocal self-emptying of the Father and of the Son does not lead to emptiness but to fullness). Foaki atu e 10 ‘a e Tamai pea i he taimi tatau ‘oku fakafonu ‘aki ia ‘a e 10 mei hono ‘Alo. Pea ‘i he fe’ofa’aki ko ‘eni mo e fefoaki’aki ‘a e Tamai moe ‘Alo ‘oku ha sino ia ‘i he ngaue ‘a e Laumalie Ma’oni’oni.

Ko e natula ‘o e Tolu-Taha’i-‘Otua koe komunio ‘oe ‘ofa (communion/community of Love) pe koe kulupu ‘i honau natula KK pe ‘oe kulupu kuo nau lau ‘ai ‘e kinautolu ‘a e 1+1=1 pea ‘i he feveitokai’aki moe foaki li’oa (self-emptying) ‘i feohi’anga kuo hoko pe ai ‘a e 2 ia koe 1 hahaha…

 

mou kataki kae vakai atu 'ena ke faingofua pe na'a faingata'a kae ikai toe lotu ha taha,,,,,,,,,,,,, koe sio 'ena meihe nataula 'oe FEOHI ...

sami

 

2013/5/24 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

[hingano pakileata]

Sami oku ou pehee e au ko e ofa ki he kaungaapi oku tatau tofu pe ia mo e feofaaki..aia ko e fekau pe e taha ikai ke ua hhh kae heilo..

[Sami Pakofe]

Hingano,,,,,,,,,,(1)  kii sio atu kiho kaunga'api ... siofi ia, ke hange koha'o sio kiho 'ata he sio'ata......(2) to'o mai ho kaunga'api , 'o 'ai 'ia KOE ...teke kei Hingano pe,ka oku ke malava ke "siofia " KOE ihe 'ata ho kaunga'api, pea ke toe malava pe ke 'omai e'ata ho kaunga'api 'o 'ai ia Koe , kake kei Hingano pe....

 

 fakamanamanatu talanoa 'a Jisu, koho'o fai pe kiha taha oku si'ii tokua koho'o fai ia kia te Iaa......., Na'aku ihe fale popula, na'aku I falemahaki ,,,, hili koia ne 'ikai ke 'iai........... ka koe "OFA' oku nemalva ke faka-kainga'ii hotau ngaahi kupu ihe fotunga , 'ulungaanga pea ope atu kihe me'a oku ikai malava...........

 

Hingano,,, koe usuusu pe 'eni ia,,, koe teu 'oe 'aho tapu 'a Pongipongi na,,,

 

moe ofa,,

 

sami.

 

 

2013/5/25 hingano pakileata <pakileat...@gmail.com>

[hingano pakileata]

Sami

Ktki e fuoloa puli..poupou atu ki he vahevahe..paloplema pe ko hoo toe ai sioata hhhh he oku palaku pehee a kaungaapi hhhhh...