2 Kolinito 4:3-6 "Faka’a ā€˜a hoku loto fkpo’uli ni ā€˜Eiki Sisu keu lava 'o mamata ki ho langilangi"

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Sitiveni Faupula

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2 Kolinito 4:3-6 "Faka’a ā€˜a hoku loto fkpo’uli ni ā€˜Eiki Sisu keu lava 'o mamata ki ho langilangi"

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'Oku taku mo fa’a fkmatala'i hotau kuonga ni ko e kuonga 'o e maama (enlightenment), he kuo ā€˜ikai ke kei ā€˜i ai ha me’a ā€˜e ta’e malava ā€˜e he fa’ahinga ā€˜o e tangata ā€˜o ā€˜ilo’i pea mo lava’i ā€˜aki ā€˜a hono poto fakae’atamai (reason). Tokua kuo maama ko aa hotau kuonga ni, pea ā€˜oku ā€˜i he nima pe ā€˜o e fa’ahinga ā€˜o e tangata ā€˜a e kii ki he maama ā€˜o fou ā€˜i he poto (reason) fketangata.

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ā€˜I he ā€˜Ipiseli ā€˜o e Sapate koeni ā€˜oku fakamatala ai ā€˜a Paula ki he maama’anga ā€˜o e fa’ahinga ā€˜o e tangata pea ā€˜oku ā€˜ikai ko e poto ā€˜o e tangata pe ko ha toe me'a ā€˜oku makatu’unga ai ā€˜a ā€˜ene maama, ka ko e Kosipeli pe ā€˜o Kalaisi Sisu (v.6). Kia Paul ā€˜oku kei ā€˜i he fkpo’uli pe ā€˜a kinautolu ā€˜oku ā€˜ikai tui kia Kalaisi Sisu, ke ko kinautolu ko ia ā€˜oku pulonga kiate kinautolu ā€˜a e kosipeli, ko kinautolu ia ā€˜oku fktau ki mala ā€˜enau mo’ui. Kuo fkkuiĀ ā€˜e he ā€˜otua ā€˜o e tu’u koeni ā€˜a e ā€˜atamai ā€˜o e kau ta’etui, koe’uhi ke ā€˜oua na’a hulu’ia ā€˜e he ulo mei he Kosipeli ā€˜o e langilangi ā€˜o Kalaisi, ā€˜a ia ko e ā€˜imisi ā€˜o e ā€˜Otua.

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ā€˜Oku ki’i fa’a lahi pe ā€˜a hono fa’a fkpipihi mai e fa’ahinga fkkaukau ā€˜o e enlightenment ā€˜i hotau faleni ā€˜i he fkkaukau tokua na’e ā€˜osi maama pe hotau ki’i fonua ā€˜o kitautolu, ā€˜a Tonga, kimu’a pea toki a’u atu ā€˜a e Kosipeli ki Tonga mo e kau misinale. ā€˜Oku fehalaaki ā€˜aupito ā€˜a e fa’ahinga fkkaukau ia koeni pea mo e ā€˜Ipiseli ā€˜o e uike ni, he ko e tu’unga ne ā€˜i ai ā€˜a Tonga kimu’a pea toki a’u atu e Kosipeli ā€˜o Kalaisi mo e kau misinale ā€˜o malanga’i pea tui ki ai ā€˜etau fanga kui ko e koto fkpo’uli ā€˜o ā€˜ikai ke hulu’ia ā€˜e he ulo mei he Kosipeli ā€˜o e langilangi ā€˜o Kalaisi ā€˜enau mo’ui.

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Ka ā€˜ikai ke tui e fa’ahinga ā€˜o e tangata ki he Kosipeli ā€˜o Kalaisi Sisu, ko e koto launoa ha’a tau feinga ke tau ā€˜a ā€˜o ā€˜ilo ā€˜a e langilangi ā€˜o Kalaisi Sisu. Ne mahino ā€˜aupito ā€˜a e me’a koeni kia Paula, he ko e ā€˜uhinga ia ā€˜a e pehe ā€˜e Paula na’a nau ma’u pe ā€˜a e lakanga ko ee ā€˜i he ā€˜ofa tu’unga’a pe ā€˜a e ā€˜Otua (v.1). Na’e mole ke mama’o ha ma’u ā€˜e Paula mo e kau ā€˜aposetolo ha maama ā€˜iate kinautolu pe, ngata pe ā€˜i he fai meesi ā€˜ata’ataa pe ā€˜a e ā€˜Otua, ā€˜o fekau atu kinautolu ki he Senitaile (kau ai ā€˜a Tonga ā€˜i he a’u ki ai ā€˜a e kau misinale mo e Kosipeli) ke fk’a honau mata, ke nau tafoki mei he po’uli ki he maama, pea mei he pule’ia ā€˜e Setane ki he ā€˜Otua, ke nau ma’u ā€˜a e fkmolemole angahala, pea mo ha tofi’a ā€˜i he lotolotonga ā€˜o e kakai kuo fakahaohaoa ā€˜i he’enau tui pikitai kia Sisu Kalaisi (Ng. 26:17-18).

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Malo pe ā€˜a e ngaahi me’a kotoa ā€˜oku tau fai, ka ā€˜oka ā€˜ikai ke tau tui ki he Kosipeli ā€˜o Sisu Kalaisi, ta ko e koto fkpo’uli pe ā€˜etau mo’ui. Ta ā€˜oku kei fkkui pe kitautolu ā€˜e Setane 'o tatau aipe pe ko e fanau kitautolu ā€˜a ā€œenlightenmentā€.
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Fkfeta'i 'Eiki Sisu 'a ho'o ui ha kakai kenau malanga'i 'a ho'o Folofola ke fk'a mo fkmaama ai 'a homau ngaahi loto mo 'atamai fkpo'uli ni.

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Tapuaki ā€˜ia Kalaisi

Tevita Finau

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Malo 'aupito Veni. Ma'a lahi. tfinau

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Malo Veni, tapuaki 'aupito 'a e folofola 'oku ke vahevahe mai. Malo mo
e kosipeli ke maamangia 'etau ngaahi kui he ka ne 'ikai 'oku nau kei
lele foo atu pe i koulo. Hehehe. Si'oto'ofaatu.

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> *2 Kolinito 4:3-6* *"Faka’a ā€˜a hoku loto fkpo’uli ni ā€˜Eiki Sisu keu lava 'o
> mamata ki ho langilangi"*

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Maloo Veni .

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hhh...ko e mo'oni ee.

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> Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Malo Veni, tapuaki 'aupito 'a e folofola 'oku ke vahevahe mai. Malo mo
> e kosipeli ke maamangia 'etau ngaahi kui he ka ne 'ikai 'oku nau kei
> lele foo atu pe i koulo. Hehehe. Si'oto'ofaatu.
>
> On 2/14/12, Sitiveni Faupula <skf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > *2 Kolinito 4:3-6* *"Faka’a ā€˜a hoku loto fkpo’uli ni ā€˜Eiki Sisu keu
> lava 'o
> > mamata ki ho langilangi"*

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> "Love endures all things" Saul of Tarsus d. AD 64.
>

Vilimo Fakalolo

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feunga pe ia ke fakanonga aki au oku oufokoutua pe i Tonga ka oku ou
lolotonga i muli ni pea oku iai e hoha'a kihe ki'i matangi na'e to i
he Otufelenite aneafi & anepo fakatatau kihe ongoongo kuo ma'u mei he
fanau........ Vilimo

tv

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Fakafeta'i e fakamanatu Sitiveni. Ka e fai mu'a ha langalanga tasilisili atu he 'ipiseli 'o e uike ni.

'Oku ou sio hifo ki he pehee 'e Paula 'oku 'i ai nai ha ivi-kehe ('otua 'o e tu'u ko eni) 'oku ne fakakuihi kitautolu mei he kosipeli 'o Kalaisi. Ko e ngaue 'a e tangata misinale ko Walter Wink (The Powers that Be: A theology for a new millenium), 'oku ne lave ai kihe 'invisable power' we have to deal with 'i he'etau feinga ke fakatokolahi 'a e Pule'anga.

Pea tu'unga ai e fifili; kapau 'oku ta'emamohe ngaue 'a e "... 'otua 'o e tu'u ko eni... ", ki hono poloka e kosipeli, ko e haa 'a kitaua ke fai?

Sitiveni Faupula

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Malo Tevita e fklanga talanoa pea ko e me'a 'aonga foki eni 'oku ke lave ki ai. Teu langalanga atu pe he veesi 4 'i he konga koeniĀ -"'akinautolu kuo mo'oni ai e me'a, Kuo fkkui 'e he 'otua 'o e tu'u ko eni 'a e 'atamai 'o e kau ta'etui."
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Ko e 'fkkui' 'oku toe lava pe ke 'uhinga "fkfefeka". 'A ia, ko ha fa'ahinga fkkui eni te tau ala pehe ko ha loto 'oku fkfefeka ki hono hulu'ia 'e he ulo mei he Kosipeli. 'A ia kapau leva 'oku fkfefeka 'a e loto kuo fkkui 'e Setane ki he hulu'ia 'e he ulo mei he Kosipeli, pea ta ko e 'Otua pe ia te ne lava 'o fai ha me'a ki he fa'ahinga fkkui 'a Setane.
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Kaekehe, ko e taha e ngaahi me'a 'oku fai ki ai ha fklaulauloto 'o makatu'unga 'i he fklanga talanoa koeni ko 'eku falala ki he fu'u mafai 'o e 'Otua, he kuo neĀ palomesi 'iaĀ 'Isikeli 36:26 - "Te u 'atu foki kiate kimoutolu ha loto fo'ou, pea te u tuku ha laumalie fo'ou ke huluni 'iate kimoutolu, pea te u to'o 'a e loto maka mei homou kakano, pea te u 'atu kiate kimoutolu ha loto kakano." 'Oku ou tui-falala 'e lava 'eĀ he 'Otua keĀ liliu ha loto kuo fkfefeka 'eĀ Setane.
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'Oku ou tui ko e fa'ahinga falala ia 'oku talaloto 'aki 'e Paula mo kinautolu na'e ui 'e he 'Otua ke malanga'i 'a e kovinanite fo'ouĀ 'oku fou 'ia Kalaisi, heĀ na'e 'ikai te nau fo'i (2 Kol.Ā 4:1) pea na'a nau matu'aki falala ki he makehe atu 'a e mafai 'o e 'Otua, 'o 'ikai ko ha me'a meiate kinautoluĀ (2 Kol 4:7). Na'e 'ikai ke nau lau ha'a nau mafai, ngata pe 'i he'enau tali angavaivai ko e ngaahi hina kelekele (mafahifahi ngofua) pe kinautolu kuo fa'o ai 'a e koloa 'oku 'o Kalaisi Sisu ke fai 'aki honau fatongia ke malanga'i mo fkha 'i he'enau ngaahi mo'ui (ftt.Ā 2 Kol. 4:7-18) 'a e ongoongolelei 'o Sisu Kalaisi.
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'Oku ou tui ko e me'a mahu'inga 'aupito e falala ki he 'Otua mo hono mafai neongo 'a hono faingata'a kiate kitautolu 'i he ngaue he lotu ma'oni'oni 'a e 'Eiki. 'Ikai 'oku tau fa'a falala ki he'etau ngaahi founga (methods) pe ko hotau ivi (our effort) 'i he taimi 'oku tau vakai ai 'oku 'ikai ola mo faingataĀ e ngaue kuo ui kitautolu ki ai 'e he 'Otua? 'Oku taau mo kitautolu ke tau falala ki he fu'u ivi 'o e 'Otua, heĀ neongoĀ 'a honoĀ fetekeekinaĀ kitautolu, 'oku 'ikai ke tau 'efitu'ua: neongo 'oku fkpalalauatu'u kitautolu, ka 'oku 'ikai hee 'aupito: neongo 'oku tulia kitautolu, ka 'oku 'ikai li'ekina ki he fili: neongo 'a hono te'ia kitautolu, ka 'oku 'ikai fkmate" (2 Kol. 4:8-9).
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Teu ki'i koma he, he ko e fklanga talanoa pe 'i he 'Eiki.
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Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi
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2012/2/15 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
Fakafeta'i e fakamanatu Sitiveni. Ka e fai mu'a ha langalanga tasilisili atu he 'ipiseli 'o e uike ni.

'Oku ou sio hifo ki he pehee 'e Paula 'oku 'i ai nai ha ivi-kehe ('otua 'o e tu'u ko eni) 'oku ne fakakuihi kitautolu mei he kosipeli 'o Kalaisi. Ko e ngaue 'a e tangata misinale ko Walter Wink (The Powers that Be: A theology for a new millenium), 'oku ne lave ai kihe 'invisable power' we have to deal with 'i he'etau feinga ke fakatokolahi 'a e Pule'anga.

Pea tu'unga ai e fifili; kapau 'oku ta'emamohe ngaue 'a e "... 'otua 'o e tu'u ko eni... ", ki hono poloka e kosipeli, ko e haa 'a kitaua ke fai?

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Malo Veni e kei tu'u mei he tafuu, kau pe he fiefia hono laulau ho'omou ngaahi tokonii, mo kei tulituli hake..
mo e 'ofa aipee

2012/2/15 Sitiveni Faupula <skf...@gmail.com>



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