Re: Mou'i faifakamaau'i/ Judging others..."

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Semisi Kava

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May 20, 2014, 10:18:32 PM5/20/14
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“Koe mo’ui faifakamaau e kakai kehe/ judging others…”

“’Oua te mou fakaanga na’a ang’i kimoutolu. He koe fakaanga ‘oku mou fakaanga’aki ko ia pe ‘e fakaanga’aki kimoutolu, pea koe fua ‘oku mou fua’aki ko ia pe ‘e fua’aki kimoutolu . Pea koeha ‘oku ke tokanga ai ki he malamala’i ’akau ‘oku ‘i he mata ‘o ho kainga, ka koe fu’u lalango na ‘oku ‘i ho mata ‘oku ‘ikai te ke ‘ilo ki ai? Pea te ke lea feefee ki ho kainga, ‘E tuku keu to’oa mai ‘ae malamala’i ’akau mei ho mata; ka taa koe fu’u lalango ‘ena ‘I he mata ‘o’ou? (Matiu 7:1-5)

“’E anga feefee ha’atau hola mei he mo’ui fai fakamaau’i ha mo’ui ‘a ha taha kehe/ judging others? Ko ha’ate nofo ke fakamaau’i ha to’onga mo’ui ‘a ha taha kehe ko kita pe ia ‘oku faingata’a’ia lahi taha ai. He ‘oku te tomu’a ma’u ‘e kita ‘ae angahala lahi: Koe kilikila/ fester…koe fehi’a…loto kovi…lolotonga ia ‘oku ‘ikai ‘ilo mai ‘e he taha ia ‘oku ke fakamaau’i ho’o ‘ita moe taaufehi’a kiate ia. ‘A ia leva ko hono toe fakalea ke mahinoange neongo koe taumu’a ia ho’o fakamaau’i ia ke ne mamahi ai mo uesia ai ‘ene mo’ui ka ‘oku ‘ikai hoko ia kiate ia he ‘oku ‘ikai te ne ‘ilo’i mai ‘e ia ka ko kita pe ia ‘oku te lavea ‘i he’ete tauhele. Koe taimi kotoa pe ‘oku ke fakakaukau ai ke faifakamaau ki ha taha pea ke manatu’i ‘oku ‘i ai e faingata’a lahi ia (sinful nature) ‘oku ke mo’ua ai. Kiate kitautolu ‘oku lolotonga mo’ua he ‘ulungaanga
pehee ‘i he nofo ‘ae sosaieti/ famili moe siasi ‘oku fiema’u ke fai ha ngaue kiate kita fakavavevave telia na’a keina mo ‘ohofia koe ‘e he ngaahi angahala ni pea te mo’u nofoa ai kae hoko fakafokifaa mai ‘ae ‘aho ‘oe ‘Eiki kuo te’eki fai ha fakatomala pe ke too ai ki ha tu’utamaki lahi.

‘Oku fu’u fiema’u lahi ‘ae nonofo melino lolotonga ‘etau kei ma’u faingamalie he mo’ui ni koe’uhii koe fuonounou pe ‘etau mo’ui. Te ke loto nai ke ke matee ‘oku ke mo’ui fiefia, pea na’a ke fakakakato ho ngaahi ‘aho he finangalo ‘oe ‘Eiki pe te ke mate ‘oku ke lolotonga mo’ua pe fihia he mo’ui fai fakamaau/ die angry, bitter and resentful? Koe lahiange ho’o mo’ui fai fakamaau koe faingofua ange ia ke ke toutou fakahoko ‘ae ngaahi angahala ‘oku hoko ‘i hono fai ‘oe mo’ui fakamaau. Te ke ongo’i ma’u pe ‘oku ‘ikai te ke mo’ui fiefia ka te ke loto puputu’u ma’u pe mo ‘ite’ita koe’uhii ko ho’o loto ke fai mo hoko ha faingata’a ki he mo’ui ‘oku ke loto taaufehi’a ki ai/ find yourself unhappy, angry and pessimistic much of the time.

Koe fehu’i leva: Ko ‘eni ia koaa ‘ae fa’ahinga mo’ui ‘oku ke loto ke mo’ui ai mo ngaue ai? Ko ‘eni ia koaa ‘ae fa’ahinga to’onga mo’ui ‘oku ke loto ke mate ai? Ki he Kalisitiane ‘oku ‘ikai koe hifonga ia ‘oe fanau ‘ae ‘Otua. ‘Oku ke ‘ilo ‘oku fuonounou pe ‘etau mo’ui pea ko ‘etau tolonga ‘oku taimi si’i pe pea tau mate leva? Te ke fakamoleki koaa ho’o ki’i taimi mo’ui ke taaufehi’a pe mo loto mamahi? Lolotonga ho’o mo’ui ke ke fiefia pe mo fai lelei pea ka hokosia hotau taimi pea tau utu ‘ae ngaue na’a tau fai ‘i he Pule’anga ta’engata ‘o ‘etau Tamai fakalangi. “Fai pe tangata fai pe, ‘oua ‘e fiu ngofua, ‘ofa ho kaungaa’api, si’ono laumalie hono ‘atamai, ‘oua ‘e faifaimalie he fe’aonga’aki he ‘oku taimi si’i pe pea ngata ai (Himi 427)…..’ofa ‘e ‘aonga atu pe ki he fononga’anga faka’aho….
Kavauhi


Tevita Langi

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May 20, 2014, 10:21:59 PM5/20/14
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Mãlõ Kavauhi....poupou moe 'amanaki lelei ki ha'a tau fai pehee-koe fkmãfana atu....

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May 20, 2014, 11:22:06 PM5/20/14
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Mahalo koe fakaanga 'oku tapu..'ikai lave ia ki he fakamaau.

Mahalo na'a koe palopalema fakalea pe ee..

Takamuli



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Mãlõ Kavauhi....poupou moe 'amanaki lelei ki ha'a tau fai pehee-koe fkmãfana atu....

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May 20, 2014, 11:35:08 PM5/20/14
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Takamuli, mo`oni `a Sione Mone mo Taua ... ”Ko e tama e `a e tangata kae tama e `a e tuofefine.. LOLZ
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Ka 'oku ngofua pe fakaanga malanga ia , mahalo na'a ko e tama ia 'a fefine , Faifekau ee...

'Oku 'iai e mahu'inga 'oe kehekehe 'ae lea he Tonga, " fakaanga "  'oku ha he Kosipeli 'i he Tohitapu Katoa Fakatonga, pea tau talanoa tautolu he fkmaau(judge, version NIV etc.. ), ko e kau liliu kotoa eni mei he motu'a'i lea ko aa ?

'Oku ou manako ange au hono ta'ofi e fakaanga, 'ae lea 'oku 'i he'etau Tohitapu Fakatonga.

Takamuli.




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Mahalo koe fakaanga 'oku tapu.'ikai lave ia ki he fakamaau.

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May 21, 2014, 3:07:54 AM5/21/14
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Takamuli, ko e fo`i lea malie ka `oku kehekehe hono faka`uhinga`i.
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Sami Pakofe

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May 21, 2014, 3:29:22 AM5/21/14
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Malo Faifekau , pea malo Kau Tangata  hono langa mai 'ae " fa'ahinga to'onga pe kupu'ii "Ulungaanga" ko'eni koe " Fakaanga" pe koe Faifakamaau "..

Kiate au, koe ongo me'a lelei 'aupito 'eni, kihe mo'ui 'o tatau pe ihe Famili, Sosaiete, Ngaue'anga, Pule'anga..

K ako hono 'ai koee ke kovi pea 'e kovi leva ia,, 'e mo'oni 'ae punake < na'e ngaahi pe ke lelei pae matamatasai, ka kovi pe ha me'a  koe ngaue 'ae kakai ..

koia, kapau koe lea , koia oku ne fakatupu 'ae Fakaanga ,,, 'e 

fefee 'etau lea koee, saiange e leonoa ne nofonoa , 'e ui nai 'eni koe fakaanga ?

kataki pe he fakaulu, he hange oku longolongo tevolo ee..

sami.

 

  

Sepesi H. Piukala

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May 21, 2014, 6:39:07 AM5/21/14
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Categorise 'etau tlnoa 'i tasilisili ni..'Oku ou fa'a pehe " ko e fksotoma 'oku kovi " oku ou fkanga'i nai kinautolu oku mo'ua  he  fksotoma ? Pea u pehe ,tenau 'alu kotoa ki heli, Ko e fkmaau nai eni ?

Tkmuli.

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Malo Faifekau , pea malo Kau Tangata  hono langa mai 'ae " fa'ahinga to'onga pe kupu'ii "Ulungaanga" ko'eni koe " Fakaanga" pe koe Faifakamaau "..

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May 21, 2014, 7:10:08 PM5/21/14
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Fefe ho'omou pehe ke tautea e si'i kau Fiafekau , 'oku 'ikai tautea 'e he Sutt, 'e Ui ia koe fakaanga, pe ko e fakamaau

Fefe lau 'a Siutasi ki he Hinalolo 'Alapasita..ka ne 'ave ia 'o fakatau 'o ma'u hono pa'anga foaki ma'ae masiva ne mei sai ange ia hono foa'i maumau'i(fklea pe 'a'aku), ko e fakanga nai ia pe ko e fakamaau.

Fefe taimi 'oku tau malanga ai, 'oku  fa'a fehulunaki nai e fakakaukau 'oe fakaanga, fakamaau moe valoki ? Fiema'u ke toe ki'i mahino ange 'ae taimi 'oku lea ki ai e Kosipeli 'i he 'uhinga pea ko e ha e fakaanga ? lalango 'oku 'i he mata , ko e ha e lalango ?

Takamuli.



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Categorise 'etau tlnoa 'i tasilisili ni..'Oku ou fa'a pehe " ko e fksotoma 'oku kovi " oku ou fkanga'i nai kinautolu oku mo'ua  he  fksotoma ? Pea u pehe ,tenau 'alu kotoa ki heli, Ko e fkmaau nai eni ?

Tkmuli.


Aisea Matangi

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May 22, 2014, 7:57:02 PM5/22/14
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Takamuli, malo 'a e talanoa. Malie'ia pe ho'omou felafoaki pea fakapuna kita 'e he mafana keu hu atu.
 Ko e lea fakamaau ko hono fakama'opo'opo ha me'a na'e 'ikai ke maau. Pea ko 'ene maau leva pea 'oku toki faitu'utu'uni leva 'a e tokotaha fakamaau pe 'oku tonu nai pe 'oku hala 'a e me'a 'oku fakamaau, 'o fakatatau ki he tui, lao, pe tu'utu'uni. Pe koeha pe ha fa'ahinga me'afua 'e fua'aki.
Ko e fakaanga leva, ko e tefito'i lea 'a e anga pea koe lea tanaki mei mu'a 'a e faka. Ko e 'uhinga leva 'o e anga ko e, founga, pe taimi 'e taha 'oku tau ngaue'aki ki ha me'atokoni 'oku kamata ke maumau'i 'e natula. Pea ko 'etau lea ki ai kuo kamata ke 'i ai hono anga 'o e me'a ko ia.
Ko ia 'e lava pe ke pehe ko e fakaanga ko hano faka'ulungaanga'i ha me'a na'e 'ikai halo anga pe ko hano founga pe 'uhinga nai. 'A ia ko hono 'ai 'e taha ko hono fakakakato nai. Ko e fakakaukau 'o e tokoni'i.
Ko e 'uhinga leva hono ua, ko ha me'a na'e lelei pe ia pe na'e 'ikai hano anga 'o'ona. Kae mahalo ko e fuofuoloa pe 'a hono tuku pea ngali he'ikai ketoe 'aonga pea pehe leva 'e he ni'ihi ia kuo 'i ai hono anga. Kuo lau kuo 'ikai ke toe 'aonga pe kuo mele 'a e me'a ko ia. Matamata ko e fehangahangai 'o e fakaanga 'a e anganoa.  Ko e talamai 'e Fataimelo. Ma'u a ha faka'osinga uike lelei......

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Fefe ho'omou pehe ke tautea e si'i kau Fiafekau , 'oku 'ikai tautea 'e he Sutt, 'e Ui ia koe fakaanga, pe ko e fakamaau

Fefe lau 'a Siutasi ki he Hinalolo 'Alapasita..ka ne 'ave ia 'o fakatau 'o ma'u hono pa'anga foaki ma'ae masiva ne mei sai ange ia hono foa'i maumau'i(fklea pe 'a'aku), ko e fakanga nai ia pe ko e fakamaau.

Fefe taimi 'oku tau malanga ai, 'oku  fa'a fehulunaki nai e fakakaukau 'oe fakaanga, fakamaau moe valoki ? Fiema'u ke toe ki'i mahino ange 'ae taimi 'oku lea ki ai e Kosipeli 'i he 'uhinga pea ko e ha e fakaanga ? lalango 'oku 'i he mata , ko e ha e lalango ?

Takamuli.



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Categorise 'etau tlnoa 'i tasilisili ni..'Oku ou fa'a pehe " ko e fksotoma 'oku kovi " oku ou fkanga'i nai kinautolu oku mo'ua  he  fksotoma ? Pea u pehe ,tenau 'alu kotoa ki heli, Ko e fkmaau nai eni ?

Tkmuli.

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May 22, 2014, 8:05:15 PM5/22/14
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Takamuli, malo 'a e talanoa. Malie'ia pe ho'omou felafoaki pea fakapuna kita 'e he mafana keu hu atu.
 Ko e lea fakamaau ko hono fakama'opo'opo ha me'a na'e 'ikai ke maau. Pea ko 'ene maau leva pea 'oku toki faitu'utu'uni leva 'a e tokotaha fakamaau pe 'oku tonu nai pe 'oku hala 'a e me'a 'oku fakamaau, 'o fakatatau ki he tui, lao, pe tu'utu'uni. Pe koeha pe ha fa'ahinga me'afua 'e fua'aki.
Ko e fakaanga leva, ko e tefito'i lea 'a e anga pea koe lea tanaki mei mu'a 'a e faka. Ko e 'uhinga leva 'o e anga ko e, founga, pe taimi 'e taha 'oku tau ngaue'aki ki ha me'atokoni 'oku kamata ke maumau'i 'e natula. Pea ko 'etau lea ki ai kuo kamata ke 'i ai hono anga 'o e me'a ko ia.
Ko ia 'e lava pe ke pehe ko e fakaanga ko hano faka'ulungaanga'i ha me'a na'e 'ikai halo anga pe ko hano founga pe 'uhinga nai. 'A ia ko hono 'ai 'e taha ko hono fakakakato nai. Ko e fakakaukau 'o e tokoni'i.
Ko e 'uhinga leva hono ua, ko ha me'a na'e lelei pe ia pe na'e 'ikai hano anga 'o'ona. Kae mahalo ko e fuofuoloa pe 'a hono tuku pea ngali he'ikai ketoe 'aonga pea pehe leva 'e he ni'ihi ia kuo 'i ai hono anga. Kuo lau kuo 'ikai ke toe 'aonga pe kuo mele 'a e me'a ko ia. Matamata ko e fehangahangai 'o e fakaanga 'a e anganoa.  Ko e talamai 'e Fataimelo. Ma'u a ha faka'osinga uike lelei......

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Fefe ho'omou pehe ke tautea e si'i kau Fiafekau , 'oku 'ikai tautea 'e he Sutt, 'e Ui ia koe fakaanga, pe ko e fakamaau

Fefe lau 'a Siutasi ki he Hinalolo 'Alapasita..ka ne 'ave ia 'o fakatau 'o ma'u hono pa'anga foaki ma'ae masiva ne mei sai ange ia hono foa'i maumau'i(fklea pe 'a'aku), ko e fakanga nai ia pe ko e fakamaau.

Fefe taimi 'oku tau malanga ai, 'oku  fa'a fehulunaki nai e fakakaukau 'oe fakaanga, fakamaau moe valoki ? Fiema'u ke toe ki'i mahino ange 'ae taimi 'oku lea ki ai e Kosipeli 'i he 'uhinga pea ko e ha e fakaanga ? lalango 'oku 'i he mata , ko e ha e lalango ?

Takamuli.



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Categorise 'etau tlnoa 'i tasilisili ni..'Oku ou fa'a pehe " ko e fksotoma 'oku kovi " oku ou fkanga'i nai kinautolu oku mo'ua  he  fksotoma ? Pea u pehe ,tenau 'alu kotoa ki heli, Ko e fkmaau nai eni ?

Tkmuli.

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May 22, 2014, 8:23:24 PM5/22/14
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Puke mai ange 'a Fataimelo 'o leta'i ..

'Aisea ,malo  e fakamaama ,pea mahalo 'oku kamata ke maama mai e 'uhinga ne 'ikai tatau ai 'a Toketa Molitoni mo e kau liliu lea kehe, 'i he'ene liliu e fo'i lea ko e Fakaanga (criticize), kae 'ai 'e he kau Palangi ia koe Judge(fakamaau).. taimi tatau 'oku faingofua 'eku tonounou he interpret 'ae Msisnale .

Kuo u tokanga'i e kakai kuo nau malanga'i eni 'aki e fefakamaau ka e li'aki e lea ia ne fokotu'u kihe'etau tohitapu..mahalo 'oku faingofua ange ke talanoa'i mo vete e 'uhinga 'oe fakamaau 'i he fakaanga.


'ofa atu

Takamuli.


 


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Ko e 'uhinga leva hono ua, ko ha me'a na'e lelei pe ia pe na'e 'ikai hano anga 'o'ona. Kae mahalo ko e fuofuoloa pe 'a hono tuku pea ngali he'ikai ketoe 'aonga pea pehe leva 'e he ni'ihi ia kuo 'i ai hono anga. Kuo lau kuo 'ikai ke toe 'aonga pe kuo mele 'a e me'a ko ia. Matamata ko e fehangahangai 'o e fakaanga 'a e anganoa.  Ko e talamai 'e Fataimelo. Ma'u a ha faka'osinga uike lelei......


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