Loma 10:8-10
sfaupula
Tulou atu mo taukei he tala'otua ka e male'i atu pe 'etau 'Ipiseli.
Ia Loma 10:2 ‘oku talamai ai ‘e Paula ko e palopalema ‘o e kakai Siu ko e ‘ikai ke fou ‘enau mamahi’i ‘a e ‘Otua ‘i he ‘ilo totonu. ‘A ia na’e ‘ikai ke nau mamahi’i ‘a e ‘Otua ‘o fou ‘i he ‘ilo ki he ma’oni’oni ‘a e ‘Otua ‘ia Kalaisi, ka nau feinga pe ke tu’u pe ha ma’oni’oni fakaekinautolu pe. Ko hono ola ‘o e feinga ko ia ko e ‘ikai te nau fakavaivai ai kinautolu ki he ma’oni’oni mei he ‘Otua.
Ko e palopalema koeni ‘o e kakai Siu na’e tupu ia mei he’enau ma’u hala ki he ‘uhinga totonu ‘o e folofola ‘a e ‘Otua ‘i he lao.
Ka pau te mou vakai kia Loma 9:33, ko e konga ia ne unu ‘e Paula meia ‘Aisea 28:16. Pea ko e me’a ‘oku mahino mei ai, ta ko e tui ki he tokotaha ‘e ‘ai ‘e Sihova ko e makatuliki ‘a e taumu’a ‘o e lao. Ko e makatuliki koeni ne hoko ia ko ha makatukia’anga ki he kakai Siu, he na’e ‘ikai ke nau tui ki ai. Ka ko e me’a ne nau fai ‘ekinautolu ko e pukepuke pe ‘a e mamahi’i lotu ‘oku fou ‘i he tauhi lao.
Ko ia, ko e faka’amu ‘a e ‘aposetolo ma’a hono kakai ke nau ma’u ‘a e ‘ilo ‘oku totonu ‘o fekau’aki mo e anga hono ma’u ‘a e ma’oni’oni ‘oku ‘ia Kalaisi. 'A ia ko ha ma’oni’oni ‘oku fou ‘i he tui.
Ko e tui ‘oku ‘ikai ke fakafalala ‘i ha ivi ‘o ha taha, ke pehe ‘e ‘alu hake ki he langi ke ‘ohifo ‘a Kalaisi, pe ko ‘ene ‘alu kifo ki lolofonua ke ‘ohake ‘a Kalaisi mei he pekia (vv.6-7).
Ko e tui ‘oku fakatefito ia ‘i he folofola tui ‘oku fanongongoa ‘e he kau ‘aposetolo (v.8). Pea 'i hono tali ‘aki ‘a e loto e folofola tui ko ia, pea ‘oku fakaha leva ‘e hoto ngutu ‘a ‘ete tui ‘aki ‘ete fakae’a ko Sisu ko e ‘Eiki.
Ko e tui-falala kia Sisu pea mo ‘ene ngaue ‘i he Kolosi ‘a e ma’oni’oni'anga 'o e tangata, he ko e lau ia ‘a e Tohi (v.11). “‘Ilonga pe ‘a ia ‘e tui kiate ia, ‘e ‘ikai fakamaa’i ia”.
Kiate kitautolu 'i 'onopooni, 'oku lea le'olahi mai 'a Paula kiate kitautolu ke tuku aa e mo'ui fakatauhi lao, ka tau piki atu ki he Kolosi faifkmo'ui 'o Kalaisi 'aki hotau ngaahi lou'ilima- loto.
Ko e taimi lahi 'oku tau fa'a fkkaukau pea mo mo'ui'aki e fa'ahinga to'onga 'oku fke'a ai 'etau falala ki he'etau ngaahi ngaue. Ko 'ene to pe ha taha ia he fili setuata pea fkmomoko ia 'o 'ikai toe mafana ia ke hokohoko atu 'ene po tangata ma'ae pule'anga he kuo ma'ulalo ia. Pea taimi lahi ka malanga'i 'oku 'ikai ko e me'a mahu'inga 'i he lotu e misinale lahi, ko e toe pe kete hao mai kita kitu'a ta'e lavea.
Hu'i atu mu'a hotau ngaahi kote fktauhi lao, ka e piki fkmamate ki he kolosi 'o Kalaisi.
Malo
Sam Pakofe
To: tasilisili <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 19 February, 2010 9:56:34 PM
Subject: [tasilisili] Loma 10:8-10
Hu'i atu mu'a hotau ngaahi kote fktauhi lao, ka e piki fkmamate ki he kolosi 'o Kalaisi.
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Veni , malo e talatalaifale pea moe kei ma'u ivi ke kinikini mai 'etau lesoni... kae tuku keu fakataupasi atu pe he talanoa malie kuo fai..
'Oku mahino 'aupito e mo'ulaloa 'ae Kau Sisu kihe Lao.. pea mahino 'aupito 'enau fakata'eta'ekuhaa kihe "kolosi".. pea koe talanoa mo'oni ia, he oku hoko pe ihe 'etau fononga faka'aho he lolotonga ni.
ka kuo sio kihe ongo me'a 'e ua 'oku ngaue ( fakatefito) ai e ongo me'a ni..
1 Koe Lao; Koe Fakalelei Faka-e-tangata kene pukepuke e molumalu faka-e- sino -ha-mai 'oe tangata moe fefine kihe " ma'uma'uluta " faka-sosaiete. ihe va 'oe Tangata moe tangata pe koe fefine moe fefine.
2 Koe Kolosi; Koe Fakelelei Faka-e-Loto [ Fakalaumalie ] kihe 'ulungaanga moe mo'ui 'ae Tangata moe Fefine, kihe Fakamolemole moe Fa'akataki..ihe va 'oe Tangata moe tangata ,fefine moe fefine pea " MOE 'OTUA foki ".
kuou sio, kapau 'e tauhi ke fakatou lelei 'ae Ongo " Kapasa ni ", pea kuou tui 'oku na fepoupou'aki kihe fononga.. tuku kehe kapau kuo fai ha fakamamafa ia ke " lao'ii" pe 'ete mo'ui , ka 'ikai kau ai e " 'ulungaanga - faka-e- kolosi "..
poupou atu kihe fakalanga mai 'e talanoa ni,,, he 'oku kaungatonu ia kihe fononga faka'aho..
malo;;
sami.
sfaupula
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From: sfaupula <sk...@optusnet.com.au>
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Sisitoutai Taufa
> 'e mo'oni ho'o lave kimu'a atu,,, ta potalanoa pe mo fakaongoongo na
> pusi'ii kita ua 'ehe kau matu'a ee..
>
> /koe mo'oni, he 'oku kau ai pe moe nofo faka-kolo, 'ae /me'a koe lau
> kolo", /ka hikimai ha taha 'o nofo mai kihoto Kolo, pea ka ki'i lea
> pea tala ke 'alu 'o lea he kolo pe koe feitu'u ne ha'u mei ai...
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> Ka 'oku fifili Veni, pe koe tupu 'e fa'ahinga-loto pehe ni mei he haa
> ? ka tau vakai atu koe kakai ko'eni koe kau ma'u lotu, koe kau
> fuakavenga he lotu, koe kau 'osikiavelenga he ngaue'ii e LOtu moe
> nau " ihe ve'e-'olita " kae fotu mai e mo'ui ia koe " tu'a-'olita
> //
> /ueeee, huanoa ka nau ka sio mai kianutolu kia kita eee.. mahalo tenau
> pehe mai nautolu ia,,,taki-taha lea pe he'ene me'a ee .../
> //
> 'etau nga'unu kihe me'a 'oku hoholi mai kiai 'ae 'Aposetolo ..
> faito'o kihe me'a ni...
> /malo.. sami/
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> *From:* sfaupula <sk...@optusnet.com.au>
> *To:* tasil...@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Sun, 21 February, 2010 5:22:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [tasilisili] Loma 10:8-10
>
> poupou atu fkongo pea ka fai ha lau ki he lao 'o e fonua 'oku mo'oni
> 'aupito ke tauhi ia. ko e lelevale 'o fklaka he limiti 'o e hala 'oku
> fkvalevale ia pea toe ta'e'ofa.
>
> ka 'okapau ko e lau ki hono tauhi e ngaahi lao ko ia koe'uhi 'e lava
> ai hota fklelei moe 'otua pea teu lea fktaha mo paula, ta ko 'ete
> fksi'isi'i ia 'a e kelesi 'a e 'otua (pph).
>
> ko e me'a 'oku malie fkongo he 'oku 'i ai e taimi lahi 'oku tau pehe
> ka tau ngaue malohi he siasi 'e iku ki he lelei e ngaahi me'a lahi. ka
> ko hono mo'oni ko 'etau ngaue malohi pe 'o to ki ha tu'unga ma'olunga
> ('a e tokolahi he siasi) pea 'oku tau fa'a polepole hotau ivi mo
> falala ki ai, kae ngalo e kelesi ia 'a e 'otua. fktataa'aki pe masi'i
> fkongo 'eku fa'afanongo he fa'a mahe'a e fa'ahinga fkkaukau koeni mei
> he tokolahi e kakai 'o e siasi: "ko kimautolu ne mau kamata'i e siasi
> koeni pe ko kimautolu ne mole lahi 'emau mo'ui 'i hono langahake siasi
> koeni, etc, etc... ko e ngaahi lea totu'a eni ko ee 'oku tala ai e
> feitu'u 'oku fkfalala ki ai 'etau mo'ui...
>
> malo...
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>
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> *From:* sfaupula <sk...@optusnet.com.au
> <mailto:sk...@optusnet.com.au>>
> *To:* tasilisili <tasil...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com>>
> *Sent:* Fri, 19 February, 2010 9:56:34 PM
> *Subject:* [tasilisili] Loma 10:8-10
>
> Hu'i atu mu'a hotau ngaahi kote fktauhi lao, ka e piki fkmamate ki
> he kolosi 'o Kalaisi.
>
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>
> Veni , malo e talatalaifale pea moe kei ma'u ivi ke kinikini mai
> 'etau lesoni... kae tuku keu fakataupasi atu pe he talanoa malie
> kuo fai..
>
>
>
> 'Oku mahino 'aupito e mo'ulaloa 'ae Kau Sisu kihe Lao.. pea mahino
> 'aupito 'enau fakata'eta'ekuhaa kihe "kolosi".. pea koe talanoa
> mo'oni ia, he oku hoko pe ihe 'etau fononga faka'aho he lolotonga ni.
>
>
>
> ka kuo sio kihe ongo me'a 'e ua 'oku ngaue ( fakatefito) ai e ongo
> me'a ni..
>
>
>
> molumalu faka-e- sino -ha-mai 'oe tangata moe fefine kihe /"
> ma'uma'uluta " faka-sosaiete. ihe va 'oe Tangata moe tangata pe
>
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> 2 /*Koe Kolosi;*/ Koe Fakelelei Faka-e-Loto [ Fakalaumalie ] kihe
> 'ulungaanga moe mo'ui 'ae Tangata moe Fefine, /kihe Fakamolemole
> moe Fa'akataki/../ihe va 'oe Tangata moe tangata ,fefine moe
> fefine pea " MOE 'OTUA foki "./
>
>
>
> kuou sio, kapau 'e tauhi ke fakatou lelei 'ae Ongo */" Kapasa ni/*
> ", pea kuou tui 'oku na fepoupou'aki kihe fononga.. tuku kehe
> kapau kuo fai ha fakamamafa ia ke " lao'ii" pe 'ete mo'ui , ka
>
>
>
> poupou atu kihe fakalanga mai 'e talanoa ni,,, he 'oku kaungatonu
> ia kihe fononga faka'aho..
>
>
>
> malo;;
>
>
>
> sami.
>
>
>
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Mao e fakatalanoa mai he me� mo�ni mo mahino,pea ko e vaivai�nga � e kau
lotu tokolahi,pea kapau he�kai ke tau fakatokanga� ke tau faka�hi�hi mei
ai te tau toe fakaholo atu pe � mo�a he me� na� tau fakaanga�.
Fa� �si foki � e ngaahi me� pehee � ha taha na� ne klamata� ha fa�hinga
ngaue pe ko e fokotu� ha Siasi pe ko e langa ha fa�hinga va�nga,pea tupu
kaukaua � tokolahi,pea oo mai � e kakai kehekehe � kau mai ki ai,ha� ai
e kakai lelei mo �nau ngaahi fakakaukau lelei ange ke faka�sili lelei
ange ai,� e Siasi pe va�nga ko ia,� ia na� �kai ma� ia � he founder,pea
tafoki hake leva � e tokolahi � e kakai � poupou� � e ngaahi fakakaukau
lelei ko ia ka nau situ� kinautolu mei he fakakaukau � e founder,ko �ne
�lo pe ko e kamata ia ke �si mai � e ngaahi me� ko e lau ngaue,kapau na�
kamata � e Siasi he �pi � e founder � tuli ke nau oo � kumi ha �pi ke
nau oo � fai ai �nau lotu,mo e � me� kehekhe pe � hoko ai � e maumau,pea
�ku �kai ko ha ki� maumau,he �ku a� pe ki he motu ai kita mo hato toto.
Ka �ku ou tui ko e vaivai�nga ko e �kai te te �lo� � kita na� kamata � e
Sias, na� me� ngaue�ki kita � he �iki ke kamata hono Siasi ka na� �kai
ko hoto Siasi,fa� pehe pe � kita ia ko hoto Siasi,pea �sili ai pe foki
ko e kakai ko e fa� fakahekeheke � ui �nautolu e Siasi ko hoto Siasi ,�
��sili ai pe �te tonounou,pea ko e ha� ko ee ha taha � tala mai � e me�
mo�ni,ke toe ��sili ai �te �ta,he�ne tokoni mai ke te �lo� hoto
fakapo�li,ko e Siasi ko e Siasi � Sisu,ta fakatou oomai pe � kau ki ai
ko e faikehekehe ko e mu�mu� � e taha kae muimui mai � e tahaa,� kau ki
hono Siasi,ko e �ho ko ee �tau �si � tuku pe Siasi ia ka tau puli kitautolu.
Na� � ai � e si� ongo matu� mo �na fanau na� nau kamata � e ki� Siasi
mo e lau ai pe ko hona Siasi ki he kau hu fo�u atu,pea kuo na fakatou
malolo e ongo matu� ka �ku kei lele pe e Siasi ia. malo mo e �fa atu
ongo tangata Sisi T.
sfaupula
From: Sam PakofeSent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:54 PMSubject: Re: [tasilisili] Loma 10:8-10
ueeee, huanoa ka nau ka sio mai kianutolu kia kita eee.. mahalo tenau pehe mai nautolu ia,,,taki-taha lea pe he'ene me'a ee ...
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Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Loma 10:8-10