`E ai na ha uesia?

[H. Viliami Vete]

1.Kapau `e `alu e fokotuutu`u `oku fai mo e fealelea`aki he Faingata`a ne hoko ke ta`ofi e Ako Nofo Ma`u e , Ko e ha nai ha me`a e uesia ai? 'Oku fiema`u ho`omou Lotu
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'Oku mahalo 'ikai ke tau fktokanga'i, ka ko e drugs is a huge problem in Tonga today! Pea ko e me'a ia 'e mate kee ai pee 'a 'Atele ia ko e 'ataa e fanau. Homohomo e control over the kids. Sai pee ako nofoma'u 'i Tonga he 'aho ni ke 'oua pee fu'u 'ataa e fanau he ko e 'atunga ee ... hoii ...

Ne 'ai ke fai 'emau tokoni ki Tonga High (scholarship), pea mau 'eke'eke atu ee mo ee, 'o mahino ai e ngaahi information fkofo. Problem or drugs & drinks, pea mo e ngaue 'a mobile phones 'o lava ai pee 'e he fanau ako 'o fai e ngaahi me'a ne 'ikai lava ia homau taimi. Fktaha pee mo e fktokanga'i 'oku fa'a lahi e scholarship ki he tamaiki pe ia 'oku 'ikai fiema'u ha tokoni ia ki ai.

'E toe maloloo pee fanau 'ikai toe huu ki Toloa kapau 'ikai ako nofoma'u.

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Malo Faifekau,
'Oku ou tui ko e faka'ofo'ofa taha ia ke feau e loto e kau taki mo e Siasi he ko nautolu, ka 'i he taimi tatau pe 'oku taau ke toe sio e fealelea'aki ki ha ngahi me'a,hange nai ko eni:

1.'Oku taau ke tautea pe kinautolu nenau fai e mamau mo e nof oke fakatupu kee he taimi kotoa pe he ongo 'api ako.
2. Kuo 'osi fai ' ehe Minista Ako 'ae Pule'anga 'ene tu'utu'uni he ta'u kuo hili ,ke 'oua na'a kau 'ae Kolisi Tonga ki he fe'auhi 'Akapulu, fiema'u ha a'usia 'o'enau ki'i malolo ko ia ,ke 'inasi ai e ngahi ako kehe 'o kau ai e Kolisi ko Tupo..
3. Ka ako 'alu kae kei fai pe 'Akapulu moe ngahi fe'auhi Sipoti, 'e tuku nai ai e kee ?
4. Ke tuku aa 'ae kau 'ae ongo 'api ako ni ki ha fe'auhi Sipoti Fakaako, ke vakai ange ia pe 'e fefe,ka e toki tapuni e ako nofo ma'u.
5. Kuo lava ke fakangaue'i e kakai totonu 'oku tui e Siasi 'o hange ko e fakahahanu 'ae Tangata'eiki Sekelitali, ko e Tiuta lahi 'i he Kolisi ko Tupou ko e lelei taha ia 'ae Siasi.
6. Ka ako 'alu ,'e kei tu'u pe he feitu'u tatau e apiako pea kei hingoa koe Kolisi ko Tupou ,?pe ko hono fakamovete mai kihengahi ako'anga 'oe Siasi moengahi ako'anga kehe ?

Faifekau , 'oku tau fekumi ki he lelei taha ma'ae teutangata 'ae Siasi moe Pule'anga,pea ka a'u ki he tapuni 'o e ako nofoma'u kuo 'osi vakili e ngahi me'a kotoa pe 'e kei taau ke 'oua ai na'a tapuni, kae 'oua na'a tapuni pea tau toki pehe, ko e haa ne 'ikai ketau fai ai ha me'a he taha 'o e ngahi fakafiepoto kuo fokotu'u atu he fakahoha'a ni ',o kau ki ai mo ha me'a kuo 'ilo 'e he taha ke tanaki hake ki ai.

Ne ongona pe 'ae kole lotu he palepale fakatu'amelie 'o Sau Faupula 'aneefiafi, pea 'okukei fai 'ae poupou atu ki he fakatalanoa kuo mou feia mei Tonga 'eiki na.

Takamuli.

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Tuku pe ke toki 'omai ha ngaahi  fakatalanoa 'oku ma'olunga mo lelei ange, kau toe 'oatu pe 'eni na'a tokoni pe ki he talanoa. Ke tau manatu'i pe 'oku 'ako 'alu pe 'a LHS mo TC. Ka ko kinaua 'eni 'oku na kei fai 'a e fuhu he taimi ni.

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[Daphne Taukolonga]

Faifekau

 

'Oku lahi atu fau 'a e ngaahi founga ke solova ai 'a e palopalema ni, ka ko honau olaa, 'e toki haa kotoa 'amui.

 

Koe mo'oni foki 'a e fehu'i 'oe  tepile ni, neongo koe ngaahi founga solova 'oe palopalema kotoa, 'o kau ai 'a e fakakaukau moe fifili pe'e lelei ange ke ako 'alu pee, ka 'oku 'iai 'a e ngaahi founga solova tene toe uesia 'e ia moe fokotu'utu'u 'a e fa'ahinga 'oku nau fu'u fiema'u lahi 'a e tokoni.

 

Koe fakataataa mahino taha pe 'eni.

 

1) Koe fanau 'ihe taimi 'oku nau ako nofoma'u ai, 'oku tokoni lahi 'aupito ia kihe ngaahi matu'a, tukuatu 'ae  fakahela ke fai atu kihe kau faiako moe kau ngaaue 'o e ako nofo ma'u, kae ki'i malooloo atu 'a e matu'a hono fakakina'i faka'ahoo, lol.

 

2) 'Oku 'iai 'a e fanau 'e tokoni lahi ange fau kapau tenau nofoma'u hangee ko hono ma'u ai 'enau 'attention-tokanga, pea malava ke tuki 'aki ma'u pe honau telinga 'a e ngaahi talanoa 'oe tohitapu, me'a kehe pe ia pe tenau mo'ui fakatohitapu, lol.

 

3) 'Oku hao atu ai 'a e me'akai moe ngaahi fakamole na'e mei fakahoko 'okapau na'e 'ikai tenau ako nofo ma'u, lol, tukuatu ke tauhi 'ehe apiako kinautolu he taimi 'oku nau nofo ma'u ai, koe 'nofo ia 'a kainga'.

 

4) 'E mafasia ange 'ae  ngaahi matu'a kapau tenau ako 'alu, kumi ha totongi pasi/loli/veeni kihe 'aho kotoa.

 

5) 'E si'isi'i ange ai 'a e taimi 'o e matu'a kihe ngaahi  houa lotu 'a e siasi he tenau feinga foki ke tokanga'i 'enau fanau 'ihe ngaahi houa na'e fa'a tokanga'i ai 'ihe ako nofo ma'u.

 

Faifekau, hangeehangee 'e lahi ange 'a e kavenga (burden) kihe ngaahi matu'a 'okapau he'ikai ke hokoatu pe 'a e ako nofo ma'u.

 

Ko 'eku taukapo, tau luelue fakataha mo 'etau faanau pea 'oku mahu'inga ketau fanongo tonu meiate kitautolu 'oku tau fiema'u lahi 'enau fale'i mo 'enau tokoni ke fakama'ama'a 'a e kavenga 'oku puputu'u ai hotau 'atamai moe loto moe laumalie 'i hono fifili'i pe'e anga fefee hono kouna'i kinautolu kenau tui aa 'oku faingata'a'ia 'aupito 'a e ngaahi matu'a 'i he taimi 'oku nau talangata'a ai.

 

ofa atu, pea malo hono fa'a tukumai 'a e ngaahi ongoongo mei Tonga.

 

daphne

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[david niu]

Malie 'aupito 'a e ngaahi fakatalanoa pea ma'olunga 'aupito moe ngaahi tokoni faka-fakakaukau ki he ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko pea 'oku hangee 'oku aata mai 'a e mahu'inga 'aupito pe ke kei tauhi pe 'a e ako nofoma'u 'o hange ko e ngaahi 'uhinga kuo 'omi 'e TV mo Daphnee pea hange ko ia kuo tuku mai 'e Takamuli. Ko e ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko he 'aho ni, 'e nifi ia he faingata'a 'e hoko 'oka tuku mai 'a e fanau ki tu'a 'o ako 'alu.

'Oku mahino pe 'a hono hilifaki mai ki he tepile 'a e fakakaukau ke tapuni 'a e ako nofoma'u. . .ka 'oku ou tui ko e lesoni faka'osi ia (last resort). 'Oku ou tui 'oku te'eki ke maha 'a e hofangahau 'a e siasi, vakai'i pe 'a e talafau he 'oku kei 'i ai pe ha ngaahi fakakaukau e kei manimo holo pe ai. Hange ko e me'a ne  lave ki ai 'a Takamuli - mahalo 'e ngali faingofua ange 'a hono fakakaukau'i 'a e toko 147 ko ena ne nau 'alu ki Tofoa, he 'e 'i ai e fanau tokolahi ia ai ko e 'alu pe ke kau he pue ka ko e fanga lami pe ia te nau 'aonga pe kinautolu 'i he kaha'u e fonua moe siasi, 'ikai lau ki ai moe ngaahi famili. . .ko e ki'i tokosi'i pe ai 'e fu'u fiema'u 'aupito ia ke fai ki ai ha tokoni. 

Tanaki atu pe moe fakakaukau ko eni - ko e tokoni ki he fanau ako 'e ngali faingofua pe . . . mahalo 'e lahi ange ha fiema'u tokoni ki he kau ngaue 'a e 'apiako (fakavahenga moe faka-fakakaukau).

moe hufia aipe 'etau ako nofoma'u ke 'oua na'a tapuni,

tniu.  

2013/7/25 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

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[Hough, Ana F CIV NAVFAC SW]

Fefe ke ako nofoma'u kotoa a 'ae kolisi. Tuku kihe matu'a ke nau volunteer, tuku e matu'a kenau ma'u taimi ma'ae fanau 'I 'api ako. Koe taha koe fanau mei tahi moe fanu fakafoki mei muli tenau talangofua ange 'I 'apiako nofoma'u. Koe ki'I sio atu pe mei tu'a mama'o. Lotu moe 'ofa lahi.

Ana

[hunuhunu]

Kuo laui ta'u e 'ikai ke ngaue 'a e discipline fakaakonofoma'u ia. 'Oange ha faingamalie 'o e matu'a Siasi fakakolo pea moe ngaahi kolo ke nau ki'i 'ahi'ahi discipline ange fanau. Ko e ngaahi 'apiako 'alu koe fuhu pe he fetaulaki pea 'osi. Ko e nanunga 'o e akonofoma'u ko hono palani 'a e 'ohofi po'ui, ma'u faingamalie ai e kakai lalahi ia ke nau fa'u fa'u 'o tohoaki'i e fanau ke oo fai me'a koia. Tokii mahino koe faiako pea moe faka'uli pasi, kakai lalahi 'ikai ko ha fanau ako na'a nau plan 'a e ngaahi me'a koia. Pea toki me'angaue'aki si'i fanau ako. Kapau na'a nau mohe pe kinautolu ki 'api ki he 'enau ngaahi matu'a, mahalo te nau sai pe. 

'Oku sai pe akonofoma'u ia, kae 'oua toe kau ai e kakai lalahi hono tohoaki'i si'i fanau ako..

2013/7/25 Saulisi Mafileo <saulisi...@yahoo.com>

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[tv]

Ko e fu'u mo'oni fau ho'o lau ko eni Daphne.

Tui au ko Tonga 'oku nau 'i he fononga he fo'i taimi 'oku lau 'e he kau muli "like a kid in a candy shop moment". 'Oku fu'u femou'ekina e kakai he ngaahi ta'au 'o e taimi pea hangee kuo si'i tauloofu'u atu e ngaahi fklakalaka .... ha fale lelei ange, ha me'alele lelei ange, ha mobile lelei ange, ha vala lelei ange, ha ngaue lelei ange .... 

Pea mahalo 'oku lahi e ma'u 'o pehee ko e lelei ange 'a e ngaahi 'uuni me'a ni pea ko e sai ai pe ia ki he famili. Ka 'oku 'ikai fa'a kainga e 'uuni fklaka ni mo e 'tauhi fanau lelei ange'

2013/7/26 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

[tv]

'Oku mo'oni 'a Daphne, 'oku lahi pee ngahai founga ia ke fai hano fklele 'o Toloa (pe 'Atele) ko e ako nofoma'u lelei. Pea kuo lahi e laaulea ki ai. Ka 'oku mo'oni e exclamation fk-'amelika ... are you kidding? fu'u fiema'u 'e Toloa ia ha'anau talekita sipoti

i) Ko e ako 'oku tautau ki he ongo lesoni mahu'inga pe 'e 2. 'A ia ko 'ene lelei pee hono langomi'aki e ongo lesoni ni e tamaiki he kei iiki (kindergaten - high school), pea ko 'ene 'amanaki lelei ia ki he kaha'u;

- Maths & Language

ii) Ko e lahi e fuhu he 'akapulu? Are you kidding me! Si'isi'i pee ngaahi polokalama 'akapulu ia ki he fanau. Ne tonu ke ala mai e Tonga Rugby Union 'o kau mai he ko hono fatongia totonu ha ngahi polokalama (pathways ..etc) ki he fanau (all age group)

Ka ko 'eku tokanga 'a 'aku mo e ako nofoma'u 'i Toloa ki hono teuteu'i e tamaiki koe 'uhi ko e ngaahi faingamalie 'i he ngaahi Private School 'i Tu'apule'anga 'oku nau fiema'u tamaiki 'akapulu. Mei he ngahai form 3 pe ki he ta'u lahi taha. Ka lisi e ngahai fonua 'oku 'i ai e ngaahi 'api ako (kolisi 'oku nau fiema'u kau 'akapulu 'e 'osi e 'aho ni)

'Oku 'ikai fiema'u ia ke 'alu kotoa e fu'u timi 'akapulu, ka 'o kapau 'e 'alu ha toko fiha mei he F3, F4 ...etc. ko e koloa pee basic English ke mahino hono ui e ngaahi fo'i moves 'i mala'ee. Ko 'eku ngaue na'e fai ko hono fksio e kau leka 'oku fe'unga e taleniti ki ha'ane sikolasipi 'akapulu pe ngaahi sipoti kehe pe 'o kau ai e kiliti

iii) Kiliti - ko e haa 'oku ngali li'aki ai e sipoti ni 'i Tonga? Tokaange ha ki'i tamasi'i teka lalahi pe taa lelei 'oku si'i fekau ke to'o huo pee ki 'uta he 'aho kotoa ee. Are you kidding me! Tukukehe ange ngaahi fonua kilikiti maheni (fkhela e lau ki Aussie he ko e Ashes ena 'oku tapale nautolu ai 'e Eng).

Kaume'a ko e sipoti ni 'i India 'oku fklilifu hono siini. Ko e IPL 'oku worth 2.9 billion, ko e bid ia 'a e ngaahi timi (franchise) ki he kau kiliti lelei taha 'i mamani 'o totongi ke nau va'inga Twenty/20. Tokaange ha ki'i leka kilikiti 'i 'atele ne mei sai ange ha'ane net he tolo ki he ngaahi me'alele

iv) Soccer - 'ikai foki ko hotau manako 'i Tonga. Ka 'oku 'ikai fiema'u ia ke tau manako ki ai. Fiema'u pee ke 'oua 'e li'aki ha ki'i tamasi'i taleniti, he kapau 'oku fai ha mo'ui he soka 'i Aussie & NZ pea fefee ai 'a Europe.

Ka koe lau pe eni ia ki he ngaahi sipoti maheni, 'oku te'eki fai ha lau ia ki he ngaahi sipoti 'Amelika (football & basketball), pea hangee ko e tenisi, tapulu mo e toenga .... Pea fefee ke fokotu'utu'u pe aa ha fe'auhi fuhu (boxing) 'a Toloa, 'Atele & Liahona ke nau 'ai'ai ma'a ai ... lol

[hunuhunu]

'Oku mahino 'aupito pe ia tv, 'a e holo 'a e tu'unga 'o e sipoti 'i Tonga tautautefito ki he ngaahi sipoti lahi kuo 'ikai toe fai ai he ngahi kolisi pea moe ngaahi kolo. 'Oku 'ikai foki ke 'iai ha kakai 'i he pule'anga tatau pe pea moe siasi na'e teu'i pe ako 'i muli ki he fakalele sipoti. Ko e kau faiako, ko e kau sipoti tutuku pe 'oku fakapinepine 'i hono kei tauhi 'o e 'akapulu. 'Oka pau na'e lava ha kau ngaue ia ke nau fai aa 'ekinautolu 'a e ngoue, kae tuku pe tamaiki ki he ako pea moe sipoti.

'Oku ou tui koe toko lahi ange fanau ako 'oku sipoti, ko e lelei ange ia ki he 'enau mo'ui, tautautefito ki he fa'ahinga discipline 'oku fai ki he kau sipoti, 'i hono faka'ulungaa'i, pea moe fakamalohisino'i 'a honau sino 'atamai moe mapuekpuke ai ho nau loto 'o focus he me'a ko e ako moe sipoti... koe anga pe sio...hunuhunu.

2013/7/26 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

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Hangee kiate au ko e major public relations 'a Toloa ia he lele atu ko eni. Tuku e toe 'ai ia ke feohi mo fklelei mo 'Atele. Mole taimi ia. Feinga'i e ngaahi polokalama ia 'a e kolisi ke hiki ki ha tu'unga ngali 'e fe'unga mo hono teuteu'i e tama ako ki he fiema'u 'o e taimi ni. Ko e kau taki e Siasi, Kolo, Fonua mo e fe fua 'oku 'omai ia mei he ngaahi 'Univesiti. 'A ia ko e me'a ke fai ko hono teuteu'i e tamasi'i ako ia ke hoko atu ki he levolo ko ia.

Ka 'ikai fou he fk'atamai pea koe founga ee 'oku fa'a lave ki ai 'a Daphne - Vocational.

Ko e F5 & F6 ia 'oku 'osi totonu ke nau fai 'enautolu e polokalama ki tu'a ki he ngaahi kolo mo e ngaahi Siasi. 'E tokoni lahi fau mo e kau Ako Tutuku 'oku 'i ai 'enau ngaahi ngaue fkpisinisi ki hono 'oange ha ngaahi taimi ki he tamaiki ako. 'Ikai ngata pee he tokoni ki he'enau presence in the community in a good light, ka 'oku tokoni ki he'enau ako.

Toki fai pee fkfeohi fk'apiako ha toki faingamalie .... ka 'oku mo'oni e lau 'a e kau muli - concentrate on what you do and do it well first.

Talaaatu e option ko eni: 

ko e average 'o e private schoolings (overseas) $40k - $60k (he ta'u). And if I have 2, 3 or 4 kids?

ka hiki e totongi ako 'a Toloa 'uhinga he 'oku lelei ange 'ene ngaahi polokalama. I don't think it'd be that much 9as overseas). I'd rather send my kids (as a Tongan) to Toloa ka e toki holidays mai pe ki muli ni, knowing the program in the school is very good. Pea 'ikai lava hano ako'i lelei in that cost!

Pea ko e me'a leva 'a e Kolisi Tutuku ko hono provide e bursary ki he fanau. That's how I'd raise the pay for the teachers so i can attract good teachers. Ko hono teuteu'i pee 'a e kole ki he Kolisi Tutuku - Kau Ako Tutuku, 'oku mou foaki e bursary 'a e leka kilikiti ko eni ko 'ene F5 pee, sai 'ene basic English & Maths pea 'e 'alu leva ia ki Woodhouse Grove (a Methodist Private School in UK ko e Director of Sport ko hoku kave), pe ko Newington in Aussie, 'osi alea'i 'e Takamuli & etc. Fktokanga'i 'oku 'ikai fiema'u ia ke lava 'ene sivi ... ko 'ema ako lea fkpalangi pee 'a maua, pea ko e lesoni fika ia 'oku vave pee 'ene pick up he 'oku poto hono fika'i e lau kai 'a e kilikiti ...etc

[tv]

Malo hunu. Ko e fo'i me'a mo'oni foki ena ia. Ne invest ko aa e AKo Tutuku 'a Toloa he tama musika? Kapau 'e toe invest ha tama ke 'alu ako ki he fklele sipoti? Ne meimei holo nai ai e vaakovi? ko e tali ko e hei'ilo ...

Fai mo lii mai ha'aku contract he'eku kei ma'ama'a ... he kuo maama mai e fk'ulia 'a e 'iate pea kuo kamata keu poto he uiui ee

2013/7/27 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

[Daphne Taukolonga]

Koe 'mate ma'a Tonga', 'oku 'ikai koe mate ma'a 'Atele. Koe 'Tonga mo'unga kihe loto' ka 'oku 'ikai koe Tonga mo'unga ki Toloa.

'Oku ou poupou lahi 'aupito, kapau 'e lava, 'oku totonu ke tamate'i 'aupito 'a e ongo kolisi ni, pea fakataha'i kinaua 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea.

Koe founga solova 'e taha, kapau he'ikai tamate'i 'a e ongo 'apiako 'o fakataha'i, pea 'oua 'e toe 'ai ke faiako ha taha 'i Toloa na'e ako 'i Toloa, pea 'oua na'a toe faiako ha taha 'i 'Atele na'e ako 'i 'Atele.

 

'Oku ou tui, 'oku totonu ke tuku pe 'a e akonaki fakalotu moe malanga'i 'o e kosipeli kihe kau faifekau 'oe ongo kolisi (tautefito ki Toloa) kae tokanga taha pe 'a e kau faiako kihe 'learning' 'a e fanau, he'ilo na'a lava kenau mature (matu'otu'a) 'i ha'anau matuku atu hili 'enau lava'i 'a e kolisi pea lava ai ke tuku 'a e tau sino he koe taha ia 'a e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku fakautuutu ai'a e domestic violence koe 'ikai lava ke tuku 'a e tau sino he 'oku kei immature pe 'a e tokolahi he'enau matuku meihe ako.

 

'Oku ou lolotonga hanu vavale ni kia Takamuli, Sikei, Tahifisi, Sifa Hingano, Hunu, Kolo, moe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa mo 'Atele, 'aki 'eni. 

 

Na'aku fifili foki, pe na'e hu'u mei fee 'a e fakakaukau, pe fifili 'a e Sekelitali Lahi 'oe siasi Uesiliana, Dr Tevita Havea, kuo tukuange mai kihe public arena 'o pehe ni, mahalo pe nai 'e lelei ange ke tapuni 'a e ongo 'apiako fakatoloua pea 'merge' (fakataha'i kinaua), 'o laine taha atu moe taukapo 'a Sefita Hao'uli. 

 

Koe 'uhinga 'eku hanu vavale 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o e ongo kolisi ni, he na'e totonu foki kenau fakamatala'i 'a e 'traditions' pe 'norms' pe natula tukufakaholo fakakolisi 'a e ongo 'api ako ni talu mei tuai, hangee koe fefakavahavaha'a'aki fakakolisi. 

 

Ko 'eku tui 'oku fakatefito 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea mo Sefita Hao'uli meihe 'ena 'experiences' 'ihe taimi na'a na kei ako ai, pea mo ha toe fakafuofua pe kuo na ma'u 'o felave'i moe 'vanu' pe 'ulungaanga fakamala'ia 'oku paasi meihe to'uako kihe to'uako 'ihe ongo kolisi ni, pea kuo lomeekina ai 'a e fonua kotoa. 

 

Koe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, koe natula tukufakaholo mai pe ia talu meihe fokotu'u 'o e ongo 'apiako, pea na'e ako'i pea fihia pe uesia 'a e tokolahi 'oku huu kihe ongo kolisi ni. 

 

'Oku pau pe koe founder/s 'oe ongo 'apiako ni 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Mohenoa Puloka ne kamata mei ai 'a e fesiosiofaki, pea paasi mai leva 'a e fakamala'ia ni meihe kuongo kihe kuonga 'oe ongo 'apiako ni.

 

'Oku nau ako 'a e fakavahavaha'a kihe apiako fili (enermy) honau 'apiako 'ihe taimi 'oku nau 'i 'api ako ai, ka 'oku fakafou pe paasi 'ihe tamaiki ako, pea 'e kanoni 'aki kapau koe kau faiako na'a nau ako hake pe mo kinautolu 'ihe 'apiako 'oku nau faiako ai (taha 'oe ongo kolisi).  

 

Na'aku talanoa moe tokotaha 'aneafi na'e faiako 'ihe taha 'o e ongo 'apiako ko 'eni (Toloa mo 'Atele), ka na'e ako pe ia 'ihe kolisi kehe 'i Tonga 'o 'ikai koha taha 'oe ongo kolisi ni.  Ko 'ene fakamatala 'eni kiate au.

 

'Oku 'osi lava pe 'a e fatongia ia 'o e ngaahi matu'a, pea nau tukuange mai 'enau fanau kihe ongo 'apiako ni 'aki 'enau 'amanaki koe oomai 'enau fanau 'o ako for knowledge,pea moe 'ulungaanga fakafonua moha ngaahi lelei 'oku anga maheni 'aki 'e ma'u mei faleako. 

 

Ko hono pangoo, he koe too atu koee 'a e fanga ki'i tamaiki toki kamata 'ihe kolisi, 'oku hanga leva 'ehe tamaiki lalahi ia 'o fa'o mo ako'i kinautolu kihe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, pea 'oku fai 'aki hono ako'i kinautolu 'ehe tamaiki lalahi 'a e 'ulungaanga fakaaoao.  Pea 'oku tupu ai pe 'a e ki'i tamasi'i 'o kai faka'aho 'a e me'akai fakamala'ia ni 'i hono paasi hifo meihe fanau lalahi. Koe fo'i angahala faingata'a ange fau ke to'o, he 'oku 'ikai ke mahino kihe matu'a tokolahi kae tautefito kia kinautolu na'e 'ikai ke ako 'ihe ngaahi 'api ako ko ia. 

 

It is a cycle, a poverty cycle! tradition norms/customs nurtured in Toloa & 'Atele from generation to generation! It is real!   

 

'Oku mo'oni leva ai 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea, koe founga pe 'eni 'e 'break' ai 'a e 'cycle' tukufakaholo ni, ko hono holoki kae toe fokotu'utu'u fo'ou. 

 

Sai pe ketau talanoa mahino, mou fakatokanga'i 'a e fo'i 'cycle' ko 'eni 'oku hoko totonu ia 'i Tasilisili ni, pea 'oku tau hikimai mei Tonga moe fo'i 'cycle' ni kihe ngaahi fonua muli 'oku tau 'iai. 

 

He 'oku toe pehee mai 'ehe kau kolisi tutuku 'o 'Atele 'oku lelei hake 'a e kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa, pe koha toe kolisi tutuku 'oha fa'ahinga 'apiako pee 'i Tonga?  He 'oku toe pehe mai 'ehe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa 'oku toe 'iai ha kau kolisi tutuku 'e lelei hake 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa 'iha tapa pe 'i mamani?

 

Ko hono fakalea 'e taha, 'oku kehe 'a e 'loyalty' meihe 'im-maturity', pea 'oku totonu ke 'ai ke mahino, 'oku 'ikai koe mateaki 'apiako ia, 'oku ui ia koe im-maturity.  Koe 'uhinga ia 'a e feke'ike'i mo hono tukufakaholo fakatamaiki ako mo fakakolisi 'a e angahala fakafonua mo fakamala'ia ni koe fakavahavaha'a, 'o matuku atu 'a e tamaiki ako meihe ta'u kihe ta'u mo 'enau 'ave ai pe 'a e fo'i cycle ko 'eni 'o tuku 'i honau ngaahi lotofale, pea hoko ai pe mo 'enau paasi ki honau ngaahi famili fo'ou, pea koe mo'oni 'aupito 'a e taukapo 'a Sefita Haouli mo Dr Tevita Havea, kapau he'ikai ke 'break' pe motuhi 'a e totolo 'a e angahala fakamala'ia ni 'oku tafunaki 'i loto 'ihe ongo 'apiako ni, 'e iku ma'u pe kihe tau taamate. 

 

Ko hono fakalea 'e taha, talu pe 'enau nofo mai mei Toloa mo Atele 'oku 'ikai pe ke 'asi mai ha tupulaki fakafeohi (brainwash),lol. 

 

'Oku tau fiema'u ke teui'i ha fanau kenau tupu 'o matu'otu'a, mo malava ke tuku 'enau tau sino he koe faka'ilonga ia 'o e tukufakaholo ma'u lalo ange fau. Ta ne'ine'i ke masiva pehee 'a Tonga he neongo 'a e 'osi 'a e ako 'a e tokolahi meihe ongo kolisi ni, ka 'oku tau fakatauange ke tukuaa 'a e 'immature', lol (tokolahi but not all).

 

daphne

 

2013/7/25 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

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Koe 'mate ma'a Tonga', 'oku 'ikai koe mate ma'a 'Atele. Koe 'Tonga mo'unga kihe loto' ka 'oku 'ikai koe Tonga mo'unga ki Toloa.

'Oku ou poupou lahi 'aupito, kapau 'e lava, 'oku totonu ke tamate'i 'aupito 'a e ongo kolisi ni, pea fakataha'i kinaua 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea.

Koe founga solova 'e taha, kapau he'ikai tamate'i 'a e ongo 'apiako 'o fakataha'i, pea 'oua 'e toe 'ai ke faiako ha taha 'i Toloa na'e ako 'i Toloa, pea 'oua na'a toe faiako ha taha 'i 'Atele na'e ako 'i 'Atele.

 

'Oku ou tui, 'oku totonu ke tuku pe 'a e akonaki fakalotu moe malanga'i 'o e kosipeli kihe kau faifekau 'oe ongo kolisi (tautefito ki Toloa) kae tokanga taha pe 'a e kau faiako kihe 'learning' 'a e fanau, he'ilo na'a lava kenau mature (matu'otu'a) 'i ha'anau matuku atu hili 'enau lava'i 'a e kolisi pea lava ai ke tuku 'a e tau sino he koe taha ia 'a e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku fakautuutu ai'a e domestic violence koe 'ikai lava ke tuku 'a e tau sino he 'oku kei immature pe 'a e tokolahi he'enau matuku meihe ako.

 

'Oku ou lolotonga hanu vavale ni kia Takamuli, Sikei, Tahifisi, Sifa Hingano, Hunu, Kolo, moe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa mo 'Atele, 'aki 'eni. 

 

Na'aku fifili foki, pe na'e hu'u mei fee 'a e fakakaukau, pe fifili 'a e Sekelitali Lahi 'oe siasi Uesiliana, Dr Tevita Havea, kuo tukuange mai kihe public arena 'o pehe ni, mahalo pe nai 'e lelei ange ke tapuni 'a e ongo 'apiako fakatoloua pea 'merge' (fakataha'i kinaua), 'o laine taha atu moe taukapo 'a Sefita Hao'uli. 

 

Koe 'uhinga 'eku hanu vavale 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o e ongo kolisi ni, he na'e totonu foki kenau fakamatala'i 'a e 'traditions' pe 'norms' pe natula tukufakaholo fakakolisi 'a e ongo 'api ako ni talu mei tuai, hangee koe fefakavahavaha'a'aki fakakolisi. 

 

Ko 'eku tui 'oku fakatefito 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea mo Sefita Hao'uli meihe 'ena 'experiences' 'ihe taimi na'a na kei ako ai, pea mo ha toe fakafuofua pe kuo na ma'u 'o felave'i moe 'vanu' pe 'ulungaanga fakamala'ia 'oku paasi meihe to'uako kihe to'uako 'ihe ongo kolisi ni, pea kuo lomeekina ai 'a e fonua kotoa. 

 

Koe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, koe natula tukufakaholo mai pe ia talu meihe fokotu'u 'o e ongo 'apiako, pea na'e ako'i pea fihia pe uesia 'a e tokolahi 'oku huu kihe ongo kolisi ni. 

 

'Oku pau pe koe founder/s 'oe ongo 'apiako ni 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Mohenoa Puloka ne kamata mei ai 'a e fesiosiofaki, pea paasi mai leva 'a e fakamala'ia ni meihe kuongo kihe kuonga 'oe ongo 'apiako ni.

 

'Oku nau ako 'a e fakavahavaha'a kihe apiako fili (enermy) honau 'apiako 'ihe taimi 'oku nau 'i 'api ako ai, ka 'oku fakafou pe paasi 'ihe tamaiki ako, pea 'e kanoni 'aki kapau koe kau faiako na'a nau ako hake pe mo kinautolu 'ihe 'apiako 'oku nau faiako ai (taha 'oe ongo kolisi).  

 

Na'aku talanoa moe tokotaha 'aneafi na'e faiako 'ihe taha 'o e ongo 'apiako ko 'eni (Toloa mo 'Atele), ka na'e ako pe ia 'ihe kolisi kehe 'i Tonga 'o 'ikai koha taha 'oe ongo kolisi ni.  Ko 'ene fakamatala 'eni kiate au.

 

'Oku 'osi lava pe 'a e fatongia ia 'o e ngaahi matu'a, pea nau tukuange mai 'enau fanau kihe ongo 'apiako ni 'aki 'enau 'amanaki koe oomai 'enau fanau 'o ako for knowledge,pea moe 'ulungaanga fakafonua moha ngaahi lelei 'oku anga maheni 'aki 'e ma'u mei faleako. 

 

Ko hono pangoo, he koe too atu koee 'a e fanga ki'i tamaiki toki kamata 'ihe kolisi, 'oku hanga leva 'ehe tamaiki lalahi ia 'o fa'o mo ako'i kinautolu kihe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, pea 'oku fai 'aki hono ako'i kinautolu 'ehe tamaiki lalahi 'a e 'ulungaanga fakaaoao.  Pea 'oku tupu ai pe 'a e ki'i tamasi'i 'o kai faka'aho 'a e me'akai fakamala'ia ni 'i hono paasi hifo meihe fanau lalahi. Koe fo'i angahala faingata'a ange fau ke to'o, he 'oku 'ikai ke mahino kihe matu'a tokolahi kae tautefito kia kinautolu na'e 'ikai ke ako 'ihe ngaahi 'api ako ko ia. 

 

It is a cycle, a poverty cycle! tradition norms/customs nurtured in Toloa & 'Atele from generation to generation! It is real!   

 

'Oku mo'oni leva ai 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea, koe founga pe 'eni 'e 'break' ai 'a e 'cycle' tukufakaholo ni, ko hono holoki kae toe fokotu'utu'u fo'ou. 

 

Sai pe ketau talanoa mahino, mou fakatokanga'i 'a e fo'i 'cycle' ko 'eni 'oku hoko totonu ia 'i Tasilisili ni, pea 'oku tau hikimai mei Tonga moe fo'i 'cycle' ni kihe ngaahi fonua muli 'oku tau 'iai. 

 

He 'oku toe pehee mai 'ehe kau kolisi tutuku 'o 'Atele 'oku lelei hake 'a e kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa, pe koha toe kolisi tutuku 'oha fa'ahinga 'apiako pee 'i Tonga?  He 'oku toe pehe mai 'ehe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa 'oku toe 'iai ha kau kolisi tutuku 'e lelei hake 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa 'iha tapa pe 'i mamani?

 

Ko hono fakalea 'e taha, 'oku kehe 'a e 'loyalty' meihe 'im-maturity', pea 'oku totonu ke 'ai ke mahino, 'oku 'ikai koe mateaki 'apiako ia, 'oku ui ia koe im-maturity.  Koe 'uhinga ia 'a e feke'ike'i mo hono tukufakaholo fakatamaiki ako mo fakakolisi 'a e angahala fakafonua mo fakamala'ia ni koe fakavahavaha'a, 'o matuku atu 'a e tamaiki ako meihe ta'u kihe ta'u mo 'enau 'ave ai pe 'a e fo'i cycle ko 'eni 'o tuku 'i honau ngaahi lotofale, pea hoko ai pe mo 'enau paasi ki honau ngaahi famili fo'ou, pea koe mo'oni 'aupito 'a e taukapo 'a Sefita Haouli mo Dr Tevita Havea, kapau he'ikai ke 'break' pe motuhi 'a e totolo 'a e angahala fakamala'ia ni 'oku tafunaki 'i loto 'ihe ongo 'apiako ni, 'e iku ma'u pe kihe tau taamate. 

 

Ko hono fakalea 'e taha, talu pe 'enau nofo mai mei Toloa mo Atele 'oku 'ikai pe ke 'asi mai ha tupulaki fakafeohi (brainwash),lol. 

 

'Oku tau fiema'u ke teui'i ha fanau kenau tupu 'o matu'otu'a, mo malava ke tuku 'enau tau sino he koe faka'ilonga ia 'o e tukufakaholo ma'u lalo ange fau. Ta ne'ine'i ke masiva pehee 'a Tonga he neongo 'a e 'osi 'a e ako 'a e tokolahi meihe ongo kolisi ni, ka 'oku tau fakatauange ke tukuaa 'a e 'immature', lol (tokolahi but not all).

 

 

'ofa atu

 

Taukolonga-Fakatoumata'u.

[Daphne Taukolonga]

Hangehangee ia he taimi ni meihe tuliki 'oku fai mei ai 'a e taukapo ke tapuni 'osi 'a e ongo kolisi ni, koe 'ata pe huoelo pe 'eni ia 'o e maumau fakapolitika na'e hoko 'ihe 2006, na'e toitoi ai 'a e fakavahavaha'a fakasiasi. 'Oku kamata ke mahino ange ta koe angahala fakafonua 'eni, pea 'oku kamata pe meihe ngaahi 'apiako mo honau tupu'anga, 'e tuhu kotoa pe ia kihe ongo matu'a 'a e ongo 'apiako, 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Mohenoa.

 

'Oku need -fiema'u 'e Tonga 'a e radical change 'o hangee ko hano 'merge' 'a e ongo 'apiako ni, he'e fakalelei'i ai pe moe tafa'aki kehekehe 'oe nofo 'a Tonga, fakasosiale, faka'ekonomika, fakasiasi, fakafamili, fakakulupu, fakalaumalie, fakasino, etc. 

 

daphne

[talikitai fatu]

Kapau te tau tamate'i 'a e ongo 'apiako ko 'eni, 'Oku tau toe fakakaukau nai ki he taimi faingata'a mo e ngaahi kakava na'e fatu'aki 'a e ongo 'apiako ni? Tau toe ki'i sio tu'o ua mu'a ki he me'a ko ia, na'a nifi e, ko e fokotu'u 'e he kau poto kae nafa e ko e fakakaukau 'a e kau fakapoto.

2013/7/27 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

[hunuhunu]

TV, KO KOE 'OKU 'IKAI KE TOE FIEMA'U CONTRACT IA, 'AI KE NAU 'OHOVALE PE KUO KE TU'U ATU KOE... KOAU 'ENI FAIMAI HA FEKAU, 'OKU FAKAONGOONGO ATU 'A TV....KO 'ENE 'OSI 'ANA IA....HUNUHUNU

2013/7/26 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

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Ko e Sekelitali Seniale na'a na 'I Polata'ane fakataha pe, ka 'oku kei va'inga pe 'a Tv he'etau talanoa hhh... Ko e laumalie fie ngaue pehe 'oku tau faka'amu ke fei mo fakaafe'i..

Takamuli. 

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Malie 'aupito 'a e ngaahi fakatalanoa pea ma'olunga 'aupito moe ngaahi tokoni faka-fakakaukau ki he ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko pea 'oku hangee 'oku aata mai 'a e mahu'inga 'aupito pe ke kei tauhi pe 'a e ako nofoma'u 'o hange ko e ngaahi 'uhinga kuo 'omi 'e TV mo Daphnee pea hange ko ia kuo tuku mai 'e Takamuli. Ko e ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko he 'aho ni, 'e nifi ia he faingata'a 'e hoko 'oka tuku mai 'a e fanau ki tu'a 'o ako 'alu.

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Hangee kiate au he lau 'i 'olunga kuo ongo ange fanau ki he kau faiako 'i he 'enau matu'a totonu...kapau 'oku pehee pea 'oku tonu ke vakai'i....koe ongo 'api ako nofoma'u 'oku ua pe.......'a ia 'oku palopalema....ko 'Atele mo Toloa...ko PIULA MO Liahona 'oku na ako mofoma'u mo kinaua ka 'oku 'ikai ke tatau ae fakalilifu moe ongo ako ko eee...koe ngaahi ako leva 'oku 'ikai ako nofo ma'u 'oku nau tokolahi ange.... kuo te'eki ai ketau fanongo ha ako 'alu kuo nau fahi ha 'api nofo'anga...pe koha kolisi 'e taha....pea nau ke hokohoko ...'oku ou faka'amu ke vakai'i e tu'u'anga e ongo kolisi....tapuni...pea 'ikai pea lilu e hingoa moe moto...pea ka 'ikai ki'i feinga'i mai ke ofiofi mai ki kolo...kae tuku a e nofo vao moe anga'i kaivao.....malo

 
 

[spa...@optusnet.com.au]

Malo e fakatalanoa 'oku hange kiate au koe lau koee 'i 'olunga 'oku ne talamai kuo fanongo ange fanau ia ki he  kau faiako 'i he 'enau matu'a....'oku si'i ha'a ku tui 'oku mo'oni fau 'ae lau ko ia...tu ki'i vakai ki he tu'unga 'oe ngaahi 'api ako 'i Tonga..koe 'apiako nofoma'u 'e 4 'i TOnga....Toloa...'Atele...Liahona( toe ako 'alu) mo Piula.....pehee ki Kuini Salote.(toe ako 'alu)....koe toenga e ngaahi ako'anga 'oku nau ako 'alu....Tonga High...Tupou High...'Apifo'ou....St Andrew...Ocean of Light...'Atenisi....pea mohatoe ako kehe 'oku 'ikai keu lave ki ai.... ...ngaahi ako nofo ko eee...'ikai ke fakalilifu honau va...hangee ko e ongo ako ko ee..'Atele mo Toloa........koe ngaahi ako koeee 'oku fetohotohi 'enau fanau e lava he sivi moe maak ma'olunga....koe fanau ia 'oku nofo 'i 'api moe matu'a....ko ia 'oku ou tui 'oku lelei ke ki'i tapuni e ako nofo...he 'oku lahi fakalilifu pea toe fakama...'ae me'a 'oku tau mamata ki ai....mei he ongo kolisi....'oku mahu'inga ke toe foki ki 'api e fanau...kae malava ke fai ai 'ae ngaahi bond(parents & children)...'a ia 'oku fiema'u ia 'e he fanau 'i he ngaahi levolo kehekehe 'enau mo'ui....'o fakatatau ki honau ta'u......'e malava leva ke fakatokosi'i e kau faiako pea 'e lava ke screen lelei 'ae kau faiako taau moe faiako ki he fanau....koe matuku koee ae akonofoma'u...'e hao ai 'ae tokolahi ne meimei uesia 'i he ako nofoma'u....pea nau malava ke nau tupu lelei leva....malo

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Malie 'aupito 'a e ngaahi fakatalanoa pea ma'olunga 'aupito moe ngaahi tokoni faka-fakakaukau ki he ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko pea 'oku hangee 'oku aata mai 'a e mahu'inga 'aupito pe ke kei tauhi pe 'a e ako nofoma'u 'o hange ko e ngaahi 'uhinga kuo 'omi 'e TV mo Daphnee pea hange ko ia kuo tuku mai 'e Takamuli. Ko e ngaahi faingata'a kuo hoko he 'aho ni, 'e nifi ia he faingata'a 'e hoko 'oka tuku mai 'a e fanau ki tu'a 'o ako 'alu.

'Oku mahino pe 'a hono hilifaki mai ki he tepile 'a e fakakaukau ke tapuni 'a e ako nofoma'u. . .ka 'oku ou tui ko e lesoni faka'osi ia (last resort). 'Oku ou tui 'oku te'eki ke maha 'a e hofangahau 'a e siasi, vakai'i pe 'a e talafau he 'oku kei 'i ai pe ha ngaahi fakakaukau e kei manimo holo pe ai. Hange ko e me'a ne  lave ki ai 'a Takamuli - mahalo 'e ngali faingofua ange 'a hono fakakaukau'i 'a e toko 147 ko ena ne nau 'alu ki Tofoa, he 'e 'i ai e fanau tokolahi ia ai ko e 'alu pe ke kau he pue ka ko e fanga lami pe ia te nau 'aonga pe kinautolu 'i he kaha'u e fonua moe siasi, 'ikai lau ki ai moe ngaahi famili. . .ko e ki'i tokosi'i pe ai 'e fu'u fiema'u 'aupito ia ke fai ki ai ha tokoni. 

Tanaki atu pe moe fakakaukau ko eni - ko e tokoni ki he fanau ako 'e ngali faingofua pe . . . mahalo 'e lahi ange ha fiema'u tokoni ki he kau ngaue 'a e 'apiako (fakavahenga moe faka-fakakaukau).

moe hufia aipe 'etau ako nofoma'u ke 'oua na'a tapuni,

tniu.  

2013/7/25 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoocom.au>

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Lau 'ae ki'i motu'a 'i he 'emau mama kava...koe ki'i me'a ma'ama'a eni ia 'oku 'ikai ke totonu ke fai ai ha longoa'a...koe ki'i liliu  si'i pe ia...pea koe 'ikai ia ke toe ke ongo kolisi...koe liliu pe hingoa mei he Kolisi ko TUpou ki he Kolisi Molitoni...he 'oku 'ikai ke ai ha maka fakamanatu ia 'o Tupou 'i Toloa...pea liliu 'a e Kolisi Tonga ia ke Kolisi ko Tupou he koe maa'imoa ia 'a Tupou 'uluaki.....pea ko 'ene lava 'ana ia...... 

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Re: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita Hao'uli

Hangehangee ia he taimi ni meihe tuliki 'oku fai mei ai 'a e taukapo ke tapuni 'osi 'a e ongo kolisi ni, koe 'ata pe huoelo pe 'eni ia 'o e maumau fakapolitika na'e hoko 'ihe 2006, na'e toitoi ai 'a e fakavahavaha'a fakasiasi. 'Oku kamata ke mahino ange ta koe angahala fakafonua 'eni, pea 'oku kamata pe meihe ngaahi 'apiako mo honau tupu'anga, 'e tuhu kotoa pe ia kihe ongo matu'a 'a e ongo 'apiako, 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Mohenoa.

 

'Oku need -fiema'u 'e Tonga 'a e radical change 'o hangee ko hano 'merge' 'a e ongo 'apiako ni, he'e fakalelei'i ai pe moe tafa'aki kehekehe 'oe nofo 'a Tonga, fakasosiale, faka'ekonomika, fakasiasi, fakafamili, fakakulupu, fakalaumalie, fakasino, etc. 

 

daphne

 

 

From: Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita Hao'uli

Koe 'mate ma'a Tonga', 'oku 'ikai koe mate ma'a 'Atele. Koe 'Tonga mo'unga kihe loto' ka 'oku 'ikai koe Tonga mo'unga ki Toloa.

'Oku ou poupou lahi 'aupito, kapau 'e lava, 'oku totonu ke tamate'i 'aupito 'a e ongo kolisi ni, pea fakataha'i kinaua 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea.

Koe founga solova 'e taha, kapau he'ikai tamate'i 'a e ongo 'apiako 'o fakataha'i, pea 'oua 'e toe 'ai ke faiako ha taha 'i Toloa na'e ako 'i Toloa, pea 'oua na'a toe faiako ha taha 'i 'Atele na'e ako 'i 'Atele.

 

'Oku ou tui, 'oku totonu ke tuku pe 'a e akonaki fakalotu moe malanga'i 'o e kosipeli kihe kau faifekau 'oe ongo kolisi (tautefito ki Toloa) kae tokanga taha pe 'a e kau faiako kihe 'learning' 'a e fanau, he'ilo na'a lava kenau mature (matu'otu'a) 'i ha'anau matuku atu hili 'enau lava'i 'a e kolisi pea lava ai ke tuku 'a e tau sino he koe taha ia 'a e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku fakautuutu ai'a e domestic violence koe 'ikai lava ke tuku 'a e tau sino he 'oku kei immature pe 'a e tokolahi he'enau matuku meihe ako.

 

'Oku ou lolotonga hanu vavale ni kia Takamuli, Sikei, Tahifisi, Sifa Hingano, Hunu, Kolo, moe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa mo 'Atele, 'aki 'eni. 

 

Na'aku fifili foki, pe na'e hu'u mei fee 'a e fakakaukau, pe fifili 'a e Sekelitali Lahi 'oe siasi Uesiliana, Dr Tevita Havea, kuo tukuange mai kihe public arena 'o pehe ni, mahalo pe nai 'e lelei ange ke tapuni 'a e ongo 'apiako fakatoloua pea 'merge' (fakataha'i kinaua), 'o laine taha atu moe taukapo 'a Sefita Hao'uli. 

 

Koe 'uhinga 'eku hanu vavale 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o e ongo kolisi ni, he na'e totonu foki kenau fakamatala'i 'a e 'traditions' pe 'norms' pe natula tukufakaholo fakakolisi 'a e ongo 'api ako ni talu mei tuai, hangee koe fefakavahavaha'a'aki fakakolisi. 

 

Ko 'eku tui 'oku fakatefito 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea mo Sefita Hao'uli meihe 'ena 'experiences' 'ihe taimi na'a na kei ako ai, pea mo ha toe fakafuofua pe kuo na ma'u 'o felave'i moe 'vanu' pe 'ulungaanga fakamala'ia 'oku paasi meihe to'uako kihe to'uako 'ihe ongo kolisi ni, pea kuo lomeekina ai 'a e fonua kotoa. 

 

Koe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, koe natula tukufakaholo mai pe ia talu meihe fokotu'u 'o e ongo 'apiako, pea na'e ako'i pea fihia pe uesia 'a e tokolahi 'oku huu kihe ongo kolisi ni. 

 

'Oku pau pe koe founder/s 'oe ongo 'apiako ni 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Mohenoa Puloka ne kamata mei ai 'a e fesiosiofaki, pea paasi mai leva 'a e fakamala'ia ni meihe kuongo kihe kuonga 'oe ongo 'apiako ni.

 

'Oku nau ako 'a e fakavahavaha'a kihe apiako fili (enermy) honau 'apiako 'ihe taimi 'oku nau 'i 'api ako ai, ka 'oku fakafou pe paasi 'ihe tamaiki ako, pea 'e kanoni 'aki kapau koe kau faiako na'a nau ako hake pe mo kinautolu 'ihe 'apiako 'oku nau faiako ai (taha 'oe ongo kolisi).  

 

Na'aku talanoa moe tokotaha 'aneafi na'e faiako 'ihe taha 'o e ongo 'apiako ko 'eni (Toloa mo 'Atele), ka na'e ako pe ia 'ihe kolisi kehe 'i Tonga 'o 'ikai koha taha 'oe ongo kolisi ni.  Ko 'ene fakamatala 'eni kiate au.

 

'Oku 'osi lava pe 'a e fatongia ia 'o e ngaahi matu'a, pea nau tukuange mai 'enau fanau kihe ongo 'apiako ni 'aki 'enau 'amanaki koe oomai 'enau fanau 'o ako for knowledge,pea moe 'ulungaanga fakafonua moha ngaahi lelei 'oku anga maheni 'aki 'e ma'u mei faleako. 

 

Ko hono pangoo, he koe too atu koee 'a e fanga ki'i tamaiki toki kamata 'ihe kolisi, 'oku hanga leva 'ehe tamaiki lalahi ia 'o fa'o mo ako'i kinautolu kihe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, pea 'oku fai 'aki hono ako'i kinautolu 'ehe tamaiki lalahi 'a e 'ulungaanga fakaaoao.  Pea 'oku tupu ai pe 'a e ki'i tamasi'i 'o kai faka'aho 'a e me'akai fakamala'ia ni 'i hono paasi hifo meihe fanau lalahi Koe fo'i angahala faingata'a ange fau ke to'o, he 'oku 'ikai ke mahino kihe matu'a tokolahi kae tautefito kia kinautolu na'e 'ikai ke ako 'ihe ngaahi 'api ako ko ia. 

[tv]

Takamuli, 'oku mo'oni foki 'a hunu ia - ko hono 'aii pe ke fai mo te tu'u atu .... ka 'oku te manavasi'i na'a te tu'u atu pea hangee ko e ngaahi fo'i tu'u pehee atu 'a e kautama (talamai 'e he kau Sia'atoutai), pea pehee mai e Palesiteni/Sekelitali ... malo e oo ako tamasi'i, ka ke toe 'alu pee 'o fai e feinga he 'oku 'ikai ko ha gaue eni ho'o motherman ke mau 'ohovale pee kuo ke tu'u mai ...hahhh

Ko e anga pe foki eni ia 'etau ngaahi lau, ka 'oku tau 'amanaki lelei 'aupito ki he Pule Ako fo'ou kuo ui he fehikitaki. Pea ka 'ikai ha toe felave, pea 'oku ou fokotu'u atu SUTT .... mou 'ai ha mahu'inga ki Toloa pea tu'uaki fktau. 'Uluaki pee, he'ikai toe fai ha totongi lisi (mo ha toe laaulea ai), pea me'a 'e taha ... sio hifo ki he mo'ua e Siasi na'a tokoni e seniti ko ia (neongo ko e ki'i tola pee 'e teau tupu si'i 'e ma'u ai ..lol). Ko e taapuni ia ko e dead assets pea ko e talanoa loloa hano toe feinga'i ke fkmo'ui ....

Ko e Mamonga ena ia 'oku tuu mo e lau mo nau tu'umalie ke nau fktau. Ko e Mosilemi 'oku nau 'umisi atu ki ha 'apiako. Siaina 'oku tu'u moe lau. Pea ko e kau taha lotu ne nau fktau 'a Pulela'aa 'oku kei lahi 'enau tola. Sio ange aa ki he lelei fkseniti 'o e fu'u 'apiako ki hano taa e mo'ua e Siasi.

Kou manatu ki he'eku kole 'akapulu 'a Tonga he 2008. Ko e me'a pee neu kole ko e mafai ki hano fokotu'utu'u, 'ikai ha toe me'a. All I want was the total authority to run the darn thing. Pea ko e miliona 'e 3 - 5 ne fokotu'u ki he project ko ia. Ka na'e kau mo 'Atele he talanoa'i pe 'e lava 'o tukumai mo ia. Ne ilifia 'a Sione Taumoepeau mo 'ene Poate 'o tu'u pikinima 'o tuli au, pea maafana e Ako Tutuku 'Atele ki he fkkaukau ka e 'ita ko e Sevele he me'anoa'ia, pea talu ai pee ....

Ko e tu'u he taimi ni ko 'etau tasilisili pee ke ma'u 'etau oli mo te fiefia ai pee he taa koaa ko hotau ngaahi vaa'ihala 'oku 'a e tama kehe ia. 'Oku 'ikai foki ha'aku peni 'uli'uli 'e taha pea ko 'eku tui Faka Tohitapu (mo fk-ha'apai), 'oku 'ikai fu'u fiema'u e $ ia ki he fokotu'u pe fklele ngaue ... fiema'u e tui malohi (ki he tokotaha 'oku ne foaki mo to'o e siini, poto & ivi), pea mo e fiemalie he kai hamu ke 'oua 'e pule'i kita 'e $. Ko 'ete fie hiki pee pea pelupelu hoto motu'i sote, taki mo e fanau pea muimui he fetu'u mei hahake ....hhahah

Talamonuu ki he wk-end mo hono ngaahi ma'unga kelesi

2013/7/27 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

[tv]

'Oua Daphne 'e pehe'ii ... tu'uaki fakatau. Lelei ki he taha kotoa

2013/7/27 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

--
"Pea u fie fai 'alaa, He sipinga na'a ke taa" -

[Maafu Palu]

Kau tangata mo e kau fefine,

Na'a sai ange ke 'omai e ongo ako 'o fakataha'i ki he'etau ako'anga 'oku tuifio ai 'a tangata mo fefine, ke nau sio atu ai he kau fefine, 'o ngalo ai e fe'ite'itani, kae tupulekina 'e fe'ofa'aki ai.

Ko e me'a ki hano toe fakataha'i pe 'o e ongo ako ni, 'o toe nofo fakatangata pe, 'e toe lahi aipe kau fakaleitii tangata he Fonua ni.

Si'oto'ofa he maka ni 'ene fakafale mai.

2013/7/28 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

--

Rev Dr Ma'afu'otu'itonga Palu

College Registrar

Senior Lecturer in Biblical Studies and Biblical Languages

Sia'atoutai Theological College, Nafualu, TONGA.

"Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to
Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")

[hunuhunu]

MA'AFU:

MAHALO 'OKU SAI ANGE KENAU FAKALEITII 'O TAU KAPEKAPE, KAE 'OUA 'E FUHU MO TAUFANA...LOL 

2013/7/27 Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>

[Sailosi Alofi]

'Oku ou tui ko e faingamalie 'eni ke tau kole ange kia Sikei ke ne 'omi ange 'a e ngaahi a'usia ki he ongo me'a ni 'e ua .1Ko e ke fakakolisi 2.Ko e uesia 'e hoko ka fakataha'i 'a e ongo 'apiako ni.

Na'e kau foki 'a e taimi 'o Sikei he taimi na'e fa'a vakovi ai 'a e ongo ako.Ko e fehu'i kia Sikei ko e ha e me'a na'a mou fa'a ke ai?Ko e faka'osi pe sikei ko e ha ha uesia 'i hono fakataha'i 'a e Labour mo e Takimamata.Kapau 'e lava 'e sikei 'o 'omai 'a e ngaahi fakatupunga pea te tau lava 'o 'ilo 'a e ngaahi solova'anga ,pea pehe foki ke ne 'omi mo e ngaahi uesia.Ko ia ko e taimi ni 'oku ou kole ke tau 'oange kia Sikei ke ne vahevahe mai 'ene a'usia.Malo Sikei,pea 'oleva e fehu'i kae tuku kene 'omai ke 'osi pea toki fai e ngaahi fehu'i.ka 'oku ke fie fehu'i pea hiki pe ho nima ki 'olunga.

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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:54:44 -0700
From: saulisi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] `E ai na ha uesia?
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

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[Maafu Palu]

Ioooo Hunu,

'Oku sai pe foki e fakaleitii he 'oku 'ikai ko ha angahala 'iate ia pe. Toe sai pe mo e Tekevakavaka, he ko hoto vakavaka pe 'e maumau ai. 

Ko e me'a pe eni he 'e toe lahi aipe faka-Nu'usila ia he Fonua ni.

Si'oto'ofa

2013/7/28 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

[Vanisi Takeifanga]

Sikei,

 

Pehe 'e Sailosi ia 'e 'ikai teke ma'u ee,..koho'o folau takai hoko pea ke tautea'i ai ko e fu'u puha ika momoa. Sailosi ko Sikei ko e tama na'e 'ikai 'ita ia ha me'a...koe me'a pe na'e fa'a 'ita ai koe 'ikai 'alu 'a e kau fekau ke a'u 'ene tohi..ha.ha .ta tu'u lele pe na'a ma'u taua he Kolisi mu'a eee. 'Ofa atu. 

 

Vanisi 

From: Sailosi Alofi <sailos...@hotmail.com>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [tasilisili] `E ai na ha uesia?

'Oku ou tui ko e faingamalie 'eni ke tau kole ange kia Sikei ke ne 'omi ange 'a e ngaahi a'usia ki he ongo me'a ni 'e ua .1Ko e ke fakakolisi 2.Ko e uesia 'e hoko ka fakataha'i 'a e ongo 'apiako ni.

Na'e kau foki 'a e taimi 'o Sikei he taimi na'e fa'a vakovi ai 'a e ongo ako.Ko e fehu'i kia Sikei ko e ha e me'a na'a mou fa'a ke ai?Ko e faka'osi pe sikei ko e ha ha uesia 'i hono fakataha'i 'a e Labour mo e Takimamata.Kapau 'e lava 'e sikei 'o 'omai 'a e ngaahi fakatupunga pea te tau lava 'o 'ilo 'a e ngaahi solova'anga ,pea pehe foki ke ne 'omi mo e ngaahi uesia.Ko ia ko e taimi ni 'oku ou kole ke tau 'oange kia Sikei ke ne vahevahe mai 'ene a'usia.Malo Sikei,pea 'oleva e fehu'i kae tuku kene 'omai ke 'osi pea toki fai e ngaahi fehu'i.ka 'oku ke fie fehu'i pea hiki pe ho nima ki 'olunga.

Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:54:44 -0700
From: saulisi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] `E ai na ha uesia?
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Tuku pe ke toki 'omai ha ngaahi  fakatalanoa 'oku ma'olunga mo lelei ange, kau toe 'oatu pe 'eni na'a tokoni pe ki he talanoa. Ke tau manatu'i pe 'oku 'ako 'alu pe 'a LHS mo TC. Ka ko kinaua 'eni 'oku na kei fai 'a e fuhu he taimi ni.

sikei

[Daphne Taukolonga]

TV

 

'Oku ke fakatonutonu foki keke toki 'alu pe 'o ngaue 'ihe ngaahi 'apiako, kapau na'ake fie 'alu 'o tokoni'i 'a e to'utupu kuo nau 'osi nofo meihe ako, 'oku nau tokolahi atu fau 'ihe 'elia Nuku'alofa-Kolomotu'a-Fasi-Ngele'ia-Ma'ofanga,'e lava 'ehe ngaahi polokalama teke fakalele 'o tokoni'i kinautolu pea mahino ngofua ange ai ki Tonga 'a e kaveinga 'oku ke taukapo'i.  Ko Heneli Vete moe kalapu Huolanga 'a Kolomotu'a na'a nau mei fakalea mai pe kia koe, pea mau tau tokolahi hano feinga'i keke lava atu ki Tonga 'o 'settle' lelei 'i Kolomotu'a, kae lava ke faitokonia 'a e to'utupu. 'Oku tokolahi ange fau 'ae to'utupu, tautefito kihe 'elia Nuku'alofa 'oku nau 'need' 'a e tokoni teke fakahoko ma'a Tonga. All are possible, all are possibilities!

 

daphne

 

From: tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>
To: Tasilisili-he-ngaluope <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] `E ai na ha uesia?

Takamuli, 'oku mo'oni foki 'a hunu ia - ko hono 'aii pe ke fai mo te tu'u atu .... ka 'oku te manavasi'i na'a te tu'u atu pea hangee ko e ngaahi fo'i tu'u pehee atu 'a e kautama (talamai 'e he kau Sia'atoutai), pea pehee mai e Palesiteni/Sekelitali ... malo e oo ako tamasi'i, ka ke toe 'alu pee 'o fai e feinga he 'oku 'ikai ko ha gaue eni ho'o motherman ke mau 'ohovale pee kuo ke tu'u mai ...hahhh

Ko e anga pe foki eni ia 'etau ngaahi lau, ka 'oku tau 'amanaki lelei 'aupito ki he Pule Ako fo'ou kuo ui he fehikitaki. Pea ka 'ikai ha toe felave, pea 'oku ou fokotu'u atu SUTT .... mou 'ai ha mahu'inga ki Toloa pea tu'uaki fktau. 'Uluaki pee, he'ikai toe fai ha totongi lisi (mo ha toe laaulea ai), pea me'a 'e taha ... sio hifo ki he mo'ua e Siasi na'a tokoni e seniti ko ia (neongo ko e ki'i tola pee 'e teau tupu si'i 'e ma'u ai ..lol). Ko e taapuni ia ko e dead assets pea ko e talanoa loloa hano toe feinga'i ke fkmo'ui ....

Ko e Mamonga ena ia 'oku tuu mo e lau mo nau tu'umalie ke nau fktau. Ko e Mosilemi 'oku nau 'umisi atu ki ha 'apiako. Siaina 'oku tu'u moe lau. Pea ko e kau taha lotu ne nau fktau 'a Pulela'aa 'oku kei lahi 'enau tola. Sio ange aa ki he lelei fkseniti 'o e fu'u 'apiako ki hano taa e mo'ua e Siasi.

Kou manatu ki he'eku kole 'akapulu 'a Tonga he 2008. Ko e me'a pee neu kole ko e mafai ki hano fokotu'utu'u, 'ikai ha toe me'a. All I want was the total authority to run the darn thing. Pea ko e miliona 'e 3 - 5 ne fokotu'u ki he project ko ia. Ka na'e kau mo 'Atele he talanoa'i pe 'e lava 'o tukumai mo ia. Ne ilifia 'a Sione Taumoepeau mo 'ene Poate 'o tu'u pikinima 'o tuli au, pea maafana e Ako Tutuku 'Atele ki he fkkaukau ka e 'ita ko e Sevele he me'anoa'ia, pea talu ai pee ....

Ko e tu'u he taimi ni ko 'etau tasilisili pee ke ma'u 'etau oli mo te fiefia ai pee he taa koaa ko hotau ngaahi vaa'ihala 'oku 'a e tama kehe ia. 'Oku 'ikai foki ha'aku peni 'uli'uli 'e taha pea ko 'eku tui Faka Tohitapu (mo fk-ha'apai), 'oku 'ikai fu'u fiema'u e $ ia ki he fokotu'u pe fklele ngaue ... fiema'u e tui malohi (ki he tokotaha 'oku ne foaki mo to'o e siini, poto & ivi), pea mo e fiemalie he kai hamu ke 'oua 'e pule'i kita 'e $. Ko 'ete fie hiki pee pea pelupelu hoto motu'i sote, taki mo e fanau pea muimui he fetu'u mei hahake ....hhahah

Talamonuu ki he wk-end mo hono ngaahi ma'unga kelesi

2013/7/27 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

Ko e Sekelitali Seniale na'a na 'I Polata'ane fakataha pe, ka 'oku kei va'inga pe 'a Tv he'etau talanoa hhh... Ko e laumalie fie ngaue pehe 'oku tau faka'amu ke fei mo fakaafe'i..

Takamuli. 

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"Tasilisili-he-ngaluope" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>

Cc:

Sent:

Fri, 26 Jul 2013 22:04:04 -0700

Subject:

Re: [tasilisili] `E ai na ha uesia?

TV, KO KOE 'OKU 'IKAI KE TOE FIEMA'U CONTRACT IA, 'AI KE NAU 'OHOVALE PE KUO KE TU'U ATU KOE... KOAU 'ENI FAIMAI HA FEKAU, 'OKU FAKAONGOONGO ATU 'A TV....KO 'ENE 'OSI 'ANA IA....HUNUHUNU

[Daphne Taukolonga]

T Fatu

 

'Oku ke pehee 'e tafoki hake pe 'a Dr Tevita Havea 'o fokotu'u noa'ia? 'oku mahu'inga ange keke feinga ke 'ilo pe koe ha 'a 'ene ngaahi 'uhinga kihe 'ene taukapo, mahalo 'oku ne 'ilo 'e ia ha fakamatala 'oku 'ikai teke 'ilo 'e koe, pea koe mahu'inga ia 'o e 'dialogue' (taalanga) ko 'eni 'oku fakahoko 'i Tasilisili ni ko 'etau nofo 'o 'speculate' (fifili'i) 'a e 'atamai 'oe kau poto 'o Tonga 'ihe lolotonga. 

 

Koe 'uhinga ia 'a e tau (war) 'a e ngaahi fonua 'ihe Middle East 'o a'u kihe 'aho ni, he 'oku nau kei nofo 'ihe kuohili, 'ikai tenau ma'u 'a e sio 'a e christianity, ko 'etau feinga kihe possibilities (faingamalie)'i hono improving ourselves, from one stage to another, koe mo'ui fakama'oni'oni'i ia 'oku lau ki ai 'a e kosipeli?

 

Kapau na'e lava 'etau fanga kui 'o lea mai mei fa'itoka tenau talamai ke tuku 'etau nofo 'ihe kuohili katau feinga ketau nofo 'ihe lolotonga (here and now) he kuo pau ma'u pe ke 'alu moe taimi.   

 

daphne 

[tino tahitu'a]

I HONO AKO'I IKAI KE MAHINO E FOLOFOLA OKU LAVA PE KE TE 'ILO E TALANOA E FA'AHINGA OKU 'IKAI KE NAU ILO E 'OTUA.

[Saulisi Mafileo]

Malo faifekau, malo tau mo e ngaue mei he hopo'anga 'o e la'aa. Talu e kakalo 'a Sailosi he taimi koee, 'oku kei kakalo pe ia a'u mai ki he taimi ni. Faingata'a ia ke puke masi'i ni ia. vhk.   Losi, talu pe 'eta tokanga ki he lautohi fakasapate mei he 'eta kei iiki pea 'oku kei fai pe ia a'u mai ki he taimi ni. 'Ikai fai ha lave'i ia 'a e me'a 'oku ke tokanga ki ai. Na'a mau mo'ua mautolu mo Senituli Koloi he malanga 'i he Hauhau 'o Taufa'ahau  he taimi ko ia. hahahah
Hala mo ha 'ilo ia ki he Labour mo e TVB  he 'oku lolotonga fai 'eku hikohiko veve 'a'au ia he potu kehe.  Ngali 'oku 'iai ha mou ki'i va fakaHp, mo ho fanga tokoua ko ia? hahhaha.
Pea tuku'i fakalelei atu 'a e fo'i umelei he 'aisi he 'e vave pe ha a'u atu. Pea toki tali fakalelei atu ho'o fehu'i he 'eta va ofi. hahahah 'Ofa atu ki he famili.

sikei

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From: Vanisi Takeifanga <vanisita...@yahoo.com>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 3:13 PM

[hunuhunu]

LOL,,

MA'AFU, KUO TAU 'OSI TU'U KITAUTOLU HE TETEPU 'O E FO'I TA'AU KOIA. Kuo lava 'eni ke tau ngaue vaofi ange moe ngaahi siasi pehee, pea kuo fai 'a e contract moe kinautolu he koni. 'Oku tonu ke tau mateuteu he ko 'ena kuo nau 'i fanga 'o fakatu'uta mai.. Mahalo 'e kau lelei hono fakataha'i e ongo 'apiako ke mateuteu fakaeloto atu kiai ho tau kaha'u...lol...ko e anga pe sio...hnuhunu

2013/7/27 Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>

[hunuhunu]

tv, ne mau toki faikava heni moe matapule tonga 'oku faaiako ta'e totongi pe 'i Toloa he foomu 7. Na'ane ki'i kole ange pe ki he pule ke 'oange pe mu'a ha'ane ki'i allowance ke 'ai'aki ha'ane ki'i fiema'u he kuo pahia hono mali he fua mai mei NZ 'ene ngaahi fiema'u. Pehee atu 'e he pule ako, ' Ko e ha, kuo ke fiu koe he kai ta'etotongi mo nofo ta'e totongi heni kuo ke toe 'ai allowance ai" Pehe atu e matapule, he koe 'ai ki he nofo ta'e totongi moe kai ta'e totongi, he 'oku totongi e manioke sio'ata ha feitu'u, koe puaka pe mo Toloa 'oku kai e me'a ta'e totongi... Sai koe tv he 'e ma'u pe ho'o allowance 'au....

2013/7/27 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

[Penisimani Mone]

Kataki pe Hunuhunu, pe ko e "contract" fe eni, pea 'i he "koni" fe?...ko e anga pe tulituli hake...

 

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

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[Kalolo Fihaki]

Malo Ma’afu ‘a e fakakoloa ,

 

Malie tama ‘etau me’a …kovi aa ‘a e faka-Nu’usila ia ‘oku  ma ’opo’opo pe ongo siasi (SUTT/Metotisi Tonga) heni,  kae sai aa ‘a e Faka Tonga mo e holo ‘a e tokolahi ‘o e siasi ‘o hiki ki he ngaahi fungavaha kehee.

 

‘ofa atu mo e lotu

 K Fihaki  

[Sione Folaumoetu'i]

Uniformity or  Unity?..I guess it's not a good idea.  Ko e tamate'i loua?   Kae fokotu'u ako fo'ou? Aaaaaahhhhh!  Pe tamate'i(close) e taha kae fakamo'ui e taha?  Taaaaammmaaaani! Ko e fakalelei ko hona ngaohi ke na lelei pea fai ma'u pe 'oua na'a vaivai.  

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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:49:25 +1300
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita Hao'uli
From: peni...@gmail.com
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

[hunuhunu]

Fakapulia, malo 'etau lava, na'e sign e palesiteni moe pisope Brown ki he contract ki he fengaue'aki he vaa 'o e metotisi moe sutt he konifelenisi, pea 'oku fai 'a e ngaue moe talangofua kakato kiai he na'e lava mai 'a e sekelitali 'o fakahoko 'a e 'alea pau koia ki he sutt he vahenga San Francisco 'i he me'afaka'eiki 'o e setuata lahi malooloo. Pea kuo mahino 'a e tukunga te mau 'iai pea moe visone koia kuo fai 'e he Pisope mo tangat'eiki palesiteni. Tonu keke 'ilo masi'i Fakapulia he na'e 'i he koni..

2013/7/29 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

[hunuhunu]

lol, hhh 

kalolo, ko e holo 'a e tohi kakai 'i Tonga koe hiki atu 'a e kakai ia ki NZ he koe me'a ia 'oku tupu 'afa'afa ai ho mou ngaahi siasi....lol koe anga pe sio...hunuhunu

2013/7/29 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo...@mpia.govt.nz>

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Fefe lau 'a Mohenoa ki hemaumau 'ae fanau ako Kolisi ko Tupou ? na'a 'oku kau ia he me'a 'oku holo ai e Siasi 'i Tonga,

Fo'i 'ai lelei ia ketau 'ilo e FakaNZ, moe FakaOz, moe FakaUSA, 'i he Siasi.


kaui talanoa pe.

takamuli.

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lol, hhh 

kalolo, ko e holo 'a e tohi kakai 'i Tonga koe hiki atu 'a e kakai ia ki NZ he koe me'a ia 'oku tupu 'afa'afa ai ho mou ngaahi siasi....lol koe anga pe sio...hunuhunu

2013/7/29 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo...@mpia.govt.nz>

Malo Ma’afu ‘a e fakakoloa ,

 

Malie tama ‘etau me’a …kovi aa ‘a e faka-Nu’usila ia ‘oku  ma ’opo’opo pe ongo siasi (SUTT/Metotisi Tonga) heni,  kae sai aa ‘a e Faka Tonga mo e holo ‘a e tokolahi ‘o e siasi ‘o hiki ki he ngaahi fungavaha kehee.

 

‘ofa atu mo e lotu

 K Fihaki  

 

From: tasilisili@googlegroupscom [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maafu Palu
Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2013 1:21 p.m.
To: tasilisili
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita Hao'uli

 

Ioooo Hunu,

 

'Oku sai pe foki e fakaleitii he 'oku 'ikai ko ha angahala 'iate ia pe. Toe sai pe mo e Tekevakavaka, he ko hoto vakavaka pe 'e maumau ai. 

 

Ko e me'a pe eni he 'e toe lahi aipe faka-Nu'usila ia he Fonua ni.

 

Si'oto'ofa

 

 

2013/7/28 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

MA'AFU:

MAHALO 'OKU SAI ANGE KENAU FAKALEITII 'O TAU KAPEKAPE, KAE 'OUA 'E FUHU MO TAUFANA...LOL 

2013/7/27 Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>

Kau tangata mo e kau fefine,

 

Na'a sai ange ke 'omai e ongo ako 'o fakataha'i ki he'etau ako'anga 'oku tuifio ai 'a tangata mo fefine, ke nau sio atu ai he kau fefine, 'o ngalo ai e fe'ite'itani, kae tupulekina 'e fe'ofa'aki ai.

 

Ko e me'a ki hano toe fakataha'i pe 'o e ongo ako ni, 'o toe nofo fakatangata pe, 'e toe lahi aipe kau fakaleitii tangata he Fonua ni.

 

Si'oto'ofa he maka ni 'ene fakafale mai.

 

2013/7/28 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

'Oua Daphne 'e pehe'ii ... tu'uaki fakatau Lelei ki he taha kotoa

 

2013/7/27 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

Hangehangee ia he taimi ni meihe tuliki 'oku fai mei ai 'a e taukapo ke tapuni 'osi 'a e ongo kolisi ni, koe 'ata pe huoelo pe 'eni ia 'o e maumau fakapolitika na'e hoko 'ihe 2006, na'e toitoi ai 'a e fakavahavaha'a fakasiasi. 'Oku kamata ke mahino ange ta koe angahala fakafonua 'eni, pea 'oku kamata pe meihe ngaahi 'apiako mo honau tupu'anga, 'e tuhu kotoa pe ia kihe ongo matu'a 'a e ongo 'apiako, 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Mohenoa.

 

'Oku need -fiema'u 'e Tonga 'a e radical change 'o hangee ko hano 'merge' 'a e ongo 'apiako ni, he'e fakalelei'i ai pe moe tafa'aki kehekehe 'oe nofo 'a Tonga, fakasosiale, faka'ekonomika, fakasiasi, fakafamili, fakakulupu, fakalaumalie, fakasino, etc. 

 

daphne

 

 

From: Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>
To: "tasil...@googlegroups.com" <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013 11:57 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita Hao'uli

Koe 'mate ma'a Tonga', 'oku 'ikai koe mate ma'a 'Atele. Koe 'Tonga mo'unga kihe loto' ka 'oku 'ikai koe Tonga mo'unga ki Toloa.

'Oku ou poupou lahi 'aupito, kapau 'e lava, 'oku totonu ke tamate'i 'aupito 'a e ongo kolisi ni, pea fakataha'i kinaua 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea.

Koe founga solova 'e taha, kapau he'ikai tamate'i 'a e ongo 'apiako 'o fakataha'i, pea 'oua 'e toe 'ai ke faiako ha taha 'i Toloa na'e ako 'i Toloa, pea 'oua na'a toe faiako ha taha 'i 'Atele na'e ako 'i 'Atele.

 

'Oku ou tui, 'oku totonu ke tuku pe 'a e akonaki fakalotu moe malanga'i 'o e kosipeli kihe kau faifekau 'oe ongo kolisi (tautefito ki Toloa) kae tokanga taha pe 'a e kau faiako kihe 'learning' 'a e fanau, he'ilo na'a lava kenau mature (matu'otu'a) 'i ha'anau matuku atu hili 'enau lava'i 'a e kolisi pea lava ai ke tuku 'a e tau sino he koe taha ia 'a e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku fakautuutu ai'a e domestic violence koe 'ikai lava ke tuku 'a e tau sino he 'oku kei immature pe 'a e tokolahi he'enau matuku meihe ako.

 

'Oku ou lolotonga hanu vavale ni kia Takamuli, Sikei, Tahifisi, Sifa Hingano, Hunu, Kolo, moe kau kolisi tutuku 'o Toloa mo 'Atele, 'aki 'eni. 

 

Na'aku fifili foki, pe na'e hu'u mei fee 'a e fakakaukau, pe fifili 'a e Sekelitali Lahi 'oe siasi Uesiliana, Dr Tevita Havea, kuo tukuange mai kihe public arena 'o pehe ni, mahalo pe nai 'e lelei ange ke tapuni 'a e ongo 'apiako fakatoloua pea 'merge' (fakataha'i kinaua), 'o laine taha atu moe taukapo 'a Sefita Hao'uli. 

 

Koe 'uhinga 'eku hanu vavale 'ihe kau kolisi tutuku 'o e ongo kolisi ni, he na'e totonu foki kenau fakamatala'i 'a e 'traditions' pe 'norms' pe natula tukufakaholo fakakolisi 'a e ongo 'api ako ni talu mei tuai, hangee koe fefakavahavaha'a'aki fakakolisi. 

 

Ko 'eku tui 'oku fakatefito 'a e taukapo 'a Dr Tevita Havea mo Sefita Hao'uli meihe 'ena 'experiences' 'ihe taimi na'a na kei ako ai, pea mo ha toe fakafuofua pe kuo na ma'u 'o felave'i moe 'vanu' pe 'ulungaanga fakamala'ia 'oku paasi meihe to'uako kihe to'uako 'ihe ongo kolisi ni, pea kuo lomeekina ai 'a e fonua kotoa. 

 

Koe taaufehi'a faka'apiako, koe natula tukufakaholo mai pe ia talu meihe fokotu'u 'o e ongo 'apiako, pea na'e ako'i pea fihia pe uesia 'a e tokolahi 'oku huu kihe ongo kolisi ni. 

 

'Oku pau pe koe founder/s 'oe ongo 'apiako ni 'o hangee koe taukapo 'a Dr Mohenoa Puloka ne kamata mei ai 'a e fesiosiofaki, pea paasi mai leva 'a e fakamala'ia ni meihe kuongo kihe kuonga 'oe ongo 'apiako ni.

 

'Oku nau ako 'a e fakavahavaha'a kihe apiako fili (enermy) honau 'apiako 'ihe taimi 'oku nau 'i 'api ako ai, ka 'oku fakafou pe paasi 'ihe tamaiki ako, pea 'e kanoni 'aki kapau koe kau faiako na'a nau ako hake pe mo kinautolu 'ihe 'apiako 'oku nau faiako ai (taha 'oe ongo kolisi)  

 

Na'aku talanoa moe tokotaha 'aneafi na'e faiako 'ihe taha 'o e ongo 'apiako ko 'eni (Toloa mo 'Atele), ka na'e ako pe ia 'ihe kolisi kehe 'i Tonga 'o 'ikai koha taha 'oe ongo kolisi ni.  Ko 'ene fakamatala 'eni kiate au.

[hunuhunu]

Takamuli:

Ko Mohenoa 'eni ia 'oku lolotonga feinga'i hono peacemaker heni ke mo'ui lelei he kuo overload.. Kae tuku atu pe ki he kolisi tutuku kenau fakalelei'i e ngaahi me'a 'oku hoko 'i Tonga...lol

2013/7/29 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

[Daphne Taukolonga]

Hunu

 

Koe ha 'a e felave'i 'a e peacemaker 'a Mohenoa mo 'ene fakamatala 'ihe public arena.  'Oku 'iai 'a e ngaahi fakamatala faka-personal 'oku totonu ketau faka'apa'apa'i pea tuku pe 'ae information ko ia ke personal.

2013/7/29 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

2013/7/29 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo...@mpia.govt.nz>

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2013/7/29 <sep...@optusnet.com.au>

2013/7/29 Kalolo Fihaki <Kalolo...@mpia.govt.nz>

 

2013/7/27 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

'Oku ou tui, 'oku totonu ke tuku pe 'a e akonaki fakalotu moe malanga'i 'o e kosipeli kihe kau faifekau 'oe ongo kolisi (tautefito ki Toloa) kae tokanga taha pe 'a e kau faiako kihe 'learning' 'a e fanau, he'ilo na'a lava kenau mature (matu'otu'a) 'i ha'anau matuku atu hili 'enau lava'i 'a e kolisi pea lava ai ke tuku 'a e tau sino he koe taha ia 'a e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku fakautuutu ai'a e domestic violence koe 'ikai lava ke tuku 'a e tau sino he 'oku kei immature pe 'a e tokolahi he'enau matuku meihe ako.

'Oku mahino pe 'a hono hilifaki mai ki he tepile 'a e fakakaukau ke tapuni 'a e ako nofoma'u. . .ka 'oku ou tui ko e lesoni faka'osi ia (last resort). 'Oku ou tui 'oku te'eki ke maha 'a e hofangahau 'a e siasi, vakai'i pe 'a e talafau he 'oku kei 'i ai pe ha ngaahi fakakaukau e kei manimo holo pe ai. Hange ko e me'a ne  lave ki ai 'a Takamuli - mahalo 'e ngali faingofua ange 'a hono fakakaukau'i 'a e toko 147 ko ena ne nau 'alu ki Tofoa, he 'e 'i ai e fanau tokolahi ia ai ko e 'alu pe ke kau he pue ka ko e fanga lami pe ia te nau 'aonga pe kinautolu 'i he kaha'u e fonua moe siasi, 'ikai lau ki ai moe ngaahi famili. . .ko e ki'i tokosi'i pe ai 'e fu'u fiema'u 'aupito ia ke fai ki ai ha tokoni. 

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Daphne, 

'Oku ki'i soki, soki e pacemaker 'a Dr. he fu'u lahi e fuhu...lol

2013/7/29 Daphne Taukolonga <sioelina...@yahoo.com.au>

[Penisimani Mone]

Malo Hunuhunu, 'asinga aii he neu kei tauhi paa au...hehehe... pea 'i ai pe foki ngaahi me'a ni'ihi ko ha'a ma'olunga pe 'oku 'ilo ki ai...ka 'i ai ha'o tatau he contract ni pea underthetable mai keu laulau aipe 'i vao ni...tau manatu'ofa ki si''i Setuata Lahi Malolo e Vahe Fonua (rip), mo salute ki he Setuata Lahi fo'ouu...mo e 'ofa aipe. 

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

Fakapulia, malo 'etau lava, na'e sign e palesiteni moe pisope Brown ki he contract ki he fengaue'aki he vaa 'o e metotisi moe sutt he konifelenisi, pea 'oku fai 'a e ngaue mo talangofua kakato kiai he na'e lava mai 'a e sekelitali 'o fakahoko 'a e 'alea pau koia ki he sutt he vahenga San Francisco 'i he me'afaka'eiki 'o e setuata lahi malooloo. Pea kuo mahino 'a e tukunga te mau 'iai pea moe visone koia kuo fai 'e he Pisope mo tangat'eiki palesiteni. Tonu keke 'ilo masi'i Fakapulia he na'e 'i he koni..

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[tv]

Hunu...malie ee. He'ikai ha to'a 'e lava 'o koto atu pee koe ngaue fresh air mo free manioke;

'Uluaki, ko hai te ne ta'ofi 'a e 'ai'ainoa'ia he 'e faai atu pe kuo lele mai e fie kai kiki pea ka te heka kita ki Ha'apai 'o kumi 'ota he'ikai ta'ofi ia e ha taha he taumaiaa 'oku te ngaue totongi ....hangee pe koe matapule ko ena, kapau ko homou faikava ena he ngaahi uike mai pe ko eni, 'oku kei lele atu e ako ia ka e ha'u ia 'o inukava 'i 'Amelika.

'Oku 'ikai ko e totongi/contract, ka ko e mahu'inga'ia e Siasi he ngaue, pea mo mahu'inga'ia e tama ngaue he'ene ngaue, ko e haa hono founga. Ko e haa ha me'a ke fk'asili lelei ai 'etau ngaue.

[tv]

Toaatu ... news malie! Fakapulia, mahalo ko e me'a 'oku kei puli ai 'a Faifekau Sifa Hingano .... ngalingali 'oku ne 'ilo ha me'a. Ka e sai ko Hunu eni 'oku 'i heni tonu. Ka e kumi atu 'a Rev Hingano ke tau fk'eke ia mei he tafa'aki 'e tahaa

Taa ko ee 'e 'i ai e aleapau mo e UMC, 'o fengaue'aki moe Con Cali-Nevada - 'oku 'ikai nai ko e 'uhinga eni 'a e SUTA (Siasi Uesiliana Tonga 'Amelika?).

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

[ikunam...@yahoo.com]

Ko e natula fo'ou 'o e reaffirm e contract 'a e FWCT-UMC CalNev, 'a e va'a koia ko e "Fakaongongo ki he Komiti ki Muli"

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[hunuhunu]

'Oua teke fu'u hoha'a koe tv, he mahalo koe feinga kumi kiki e matapule he kuo fiu ia he kai ika 'i Toloa...

'Oku mau kei faikava pe moe matapule toki foki he Pulelulu...

2013/7/30 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

[hunuhunu]

Sai ai leva he ko Lou 'ena kuo a'u mai ki 'apini, kene tuku kakato mai ai leva e me'a 'oku tokanga kiai 'a fakapulia....

2013/7/30 ikunam...@yahoo.com <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

[Lousiale Uasike]

hhhhh ka ko e toe ha Hunuhunu. Ko e fakamo'oni pe koia 'a SH he aleapau, pea tau fanongo leva he fo'i ta'au tanaki mai kihe fatongia fakatauhisipi 'o e SUTT ki si'ono kakai he 'otumuli, ko e fehikitaki, "Fakaongoongo ki he Komiti ki Muli" (lol). 'Ikai fie hoko atu e nofo he Metotisi Muli pea kalokalo ke hu ki he Vahefonua SUTT (lol). Ko e tukunga ia 'e a'u kiai 'a e fo'i contract (lol) Ko ha hu mai meihe UMC mo ha hu atu meihe Vahefonua SUTT 'o fakamui'ifonua hifo aipe ki he "Fakaongoongo ki he Komiti ki Muli". Mahalo ko e fo'i "Middle Way" ia ne totonu ke fai ai e kamata he ngaahi ta'u, kimu'a 'aupito, mole mamahi mo e 'ita he ta'u middle way, lava lelei mo e ngaue faito'o mo e fakalelei 'oku lave kiai e contract. Mahalo na'e mei foki ai e tokolahi, pea ko e ni'ihi te'eki lava 'o faito'o, nonovena pe he middle way (tauhi 'a e komiti ki muli, not the conference lol) ha toe ngaahi ta ki he tu ko 'enau toe foki katoa (lol). Mahalo, ne mei 'ikai 'i ai ha Vahefonua (lol) Ka kuo tu'u e Vahefonua SUTT ia (lol), hangehange, 'e toe lahi aipe fatongia faito'o lavea 'a e Middle Way (komiti ki muli lol), mei he hu mai mei Metotisi Muli mo e hu atu mei he Vahefonua SUTT (lol). Ka ko e lavelavea ke faito'o! (lol) Malo Hunu e ngaue mei he fale talavai hhhhh. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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[Penisimani Mone]

Malo Hunuhunu, Lou mo tv....Sifa, 'oku 'i ai ha'o copy 'o e contract ke tau lavelave ai?...pe ko ha'o fie tanaki mai 'i ha'o vakai ki he contract ko enii?...mahino pe 'oku 'ikai ko ha fakataha Kuata eni ia ee...lol..ka ko e anga pe 'etau  pehee...

2013/7/31 Lousiale Uasike <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

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[hunuhunu]

Fakapulia:

Ko e fakamatala kakato 'o e contract 'a e Konifelenisi pea moe Cal-Nevada umc 'oku 'i he peesi 75, 76, 77 'o e miniti 'o e konifelenisi kakato 'o e 2013. kumi hake 'a Sifa Hingano he na'e kau he kau signers..

4. Aleapau Femahino’aki ‘a e Konifelenisi mo e Konifelenisi California-Nevada (UMC)

The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga

The California-Nevada Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church

Introductory statement about our shared commitment in ministry

We begin in deep thanksgiving that God has made us members of the same body in Christ, reaching across

cultures and seas. It is a blessing to join together in faithfulness to Jesus' call in Matthew 28:18-19: “All authority

in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations..."

It is out of this shared commitment to Making Disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world

that we embark on an intentional partnership of the California-Nevada Annual Conference of the United

Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga. We step out together following John Wesley’s

unique vision: truly the “World is our Parish.”

We enter into these agreements with one another to define our commitment and to provide a basis of

accountability as partners in ministry. Our mutual goal in this partnership is to work together to cultivate a more

intentional and effective mission with and for the Tongan Community within the bounds of the California-

Nevada Conference and with the mission of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

Key values undergirding this agreement

 Commitment to making Disciples of Jesus Christ for the Transformation of the world

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 Respect for and an appreciation of the unique ways both Methodist Churches are called to be in

ministry with and for the Tongan community

 Commitment to clear, transparent, and open communication

 That our partnership will be surrounded in prayer

Key agreements

Mission efforts from the California-Nevada Conference directed to Tonga

Mission project and team coordination

All mission projects in Tonga will be organized as Volunteers in Mission projects and will use United

Methodist Volunteers in Mission (UMVIM) guidelines for work. This includes a formal invitation from the church

in Tonga for the project after mutual agreement has been made about the details of the mission project.

Mission Teams from the California-Nevada will have a trained UMVIM leader as a part of the team who will

work in coordination with the Director of the Volunteers in Mission program of the California-Nevada Annual

Conference and the Head of the appropriate Free Wesleyan Church Department in Tonga.

Mission site identification

Mission sites may be identified through a variety of pathways, including:

1. Tongans living in the United States with deep ties to communities and families in Tonga,

2. Sites nominated by United Methodist Churches who feel called to serve in Tonga because of special gifts,

skills, and commitments to our partnership with Tonga, with the approval of the General Secretary of the

Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga, and

3. Sites designated by the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

Special fund raising efforts in California-Nevada for work in Tonga

1. Conference initiated fund raising: Projects in Tonga, for which there will be made a conference wide appeal

for funds, shall be reviewed and approved annually by the Conference Committee on Mission Service. Such

projects will be identified by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga in conversation with the Bishop and the

Tongan Mission UMVIM Coordinator.

2. Tongan United Methodist Congregation initiated fund raising: Projects in Tonga, for which funds will be

raised by the Tongan Community of the California-Nevada Annual Conference, shall be reviewed and

approved annually by an appropriate group designated by the Bishop and in consultation with the Heads of

Departments Meeting of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

Both parties to this agreement recognise that neither the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga nor the California-

Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church is in a position to control requests for funds which emanate

from families in Tonga (whether Free Wesleyan or not) and/or responses to such requests by family members

who belong to United Methodist Churches within the California-Nevada Conference.

Supervision of Tongan United Methodist Churches

The role of the District Superintendent

The District Superintendent functions as an extension of the superintending role of the bishop within the

annual conference. His/her role is to exercise oversight and support of the Church in its mission of making

disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world.

If there are issues or concerns about the health, wellbeing, or effectiveness of a Tongan Ministry in a United

Methodist Church which come to the attention of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga these concerns should be

raised with the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga who will then consult directly with the

appropriate United Methodist District Superintendent.

Likewise, if there are issues or concerns about the health, wellbeing or effectiveness of a California-Nevada

Conference mission in Tonga which come to the attention of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga these concerns

should be raised with the Conference Superintendent for Mission Collaboration who will consult directly with

the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga. Together a strategy will be developed to fully

understand the situation and respond.

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The role of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga within boundaries of the California-Nevada Annual Conference

The primary roles of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga within the bounds of the California-Nevada

Conference are to supervise Free Wesleyan Tongan churches and to support collegial relationships with United

Methodist churches and the conference leadership.

This agreement recognizes that the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga takes seriously its pastoral and

supervisory responsibilities for Free Wesleyan churches within the bounds of the California-Nevada Annual

Conference. Conference leadership welcomes the gifts and insights of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga.

Whenever possible these gifts and insights will be utilized to assist California-Nevada Conference leadership in

playing its part in the shared ministry of making Disciples for the Transformation of the world.

If concerns arise about a lack of collegiality by a Free Wesleyan Pastor or Leader and it is reported to a

United Methodist District Superintendent the Bishop will initiate a conversation with the General Secretary of

the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference

When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada

Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga they will be encouraged to affiliate with the

United Methodist Church.

The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United

Methodist Church and form a new church. Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United

Methodist Church the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. Should reconciliation not be

achieved, the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to

recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a

church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga

whenever there is a plan to establish a new Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-

Nevada Conference.

Communications

In order to maintain effective communication between the California-Nevada Conference of the United

Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga, clear communication channels will be designated

and maintained particularly in the areas of mission project development, local church supervision, and overall

mission partnership collaboration.

________________________________________________ ___________________

The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Date

________________________________________________ ___________________

The California-Nevada Annual Conference Date

The United Methodist Church

Kau fakamo’oni (‘i he Sapate 30 Siune 2013):

Ma’a e Konifelenisi Siasi Uesiliana Tau’ataina ‘o Tonga: Palesiteni, Sekelitali Lahi, Sekelitali Fetu’utaki

Ma’a e Konifelenisi California-Nevada UMC: Pisope, Siosifa Hingano

2013/7/30 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

[hunuhunu]

fakapulia:

mahalo ko e tepile hala 'eni 'oku tau fetakai ai...lol....Ko e tepile 'eni ia 'o e felafoaki he me'a 'a Toloa mo 'atele. . lol

[Lousiale Uasike]

Ta ko ena! Malo Hunu

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Sent: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 10:44:10 PM

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

 Fakapulia, ko eni 'oku hili hake he tepile ko ee , ka e 'ataa atu e tepile 'ae fanau..

Ko e Kovinanite 'oku sai ange ia he aleapau.. ko e aleapau he ngahi me'a fakalotu 'oku tauhi 'aki ia e lao, ko e Kovinanite ia 'oku tauhi 'aki ia e Kelesi. Ka ne ko ha Kovinanite eni  , fuoloa e 'asi mai 'a Sh, ka ko e 'ai Contract ..kuo pau ke hunuki ki he konisitutone, pea 'ai hano ngahi kupukupu'i  lao ke tauhi mahalo ko ia 'oku fuoloa ai 'ene puli.

'Oku lahi 'ae movete heni, movete 'a Pulela'a, movete moe Parish, pea 'oku ou tui 'e tanaki 'e he Sutt hangatonu mei Tonga e ngahi movete ko eni,,'oku a'u ia ki he tu'unga 'oku 'ikai kenau toe fie kau fakataha atu he Vahefonua, ka 'oku nau loto ke takitaha 'ai pe 'ene kau , mahalo 'e 'ovataimi ai 'a Tau'atevalu ia moe Poate ki Muli he ngahi movete ko enii...

'Oku sai e ngahi Movete pehe ni ki he palupalu moe Konisenti feinga pa'anga...maumau pe komautolu ko nei 'oku hiki ki he ngahi fai'angalotu palangi 'oku 'ikai fai ha palupalu ia ai .

takamuli

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Malo Hunuhunu, Lou mo tv....Sifa, 'oku 'i ai ha'o copy 'o e contract ke tau lavelave ai?...pe ko ha'o fie tanaki mai 'i ha'o vakai ki he contract ko enii?..mahino pe 'oku 'ikai ko ha fakataha Kuata eni ia ee...lol..ka ko e anga pe 'etau  pehee...

2013/7/31 Lousiale Uasike <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

hhhhh ka ko e toe ha Hunuhunu. Ko e fakamo'oni pe koia 'a SH he aleapau, pea tau fanongo leva he fo'i ta'au tanaki mai kihe fatongia fakatauhisipi 'o e SUTT ki si'ono kakai he 'otumuli, ko e fehikitaki, "Fakaongoongo ki he Komiti ki Muli" (lol). 'Ikai fie hoko atu e nofo he Metotisi Muli pea kalokalo ke hu ki he Vahefonua SUTT (lol). Ko e tukunga ia 'e a'u kiai 'a e fo'i contract (lol) Ko ha hu mai meihe UMC mo ha hu atu meihe Vahefonua SUTT 'o fakamui'ifonua hifo aipe ki he "Fakaongoongo ki he Komiti ki Muli".

Mahalo ko e fo'i "Middle Way" ia ne totonu ke fai ai e kamata he ngaahi ta'u, kimu'a 'aupito, mole mamahi mo e 'ita he ta'u middle way, lava lelei mo e ngaue faito'o mo e fakalelei 'oku lave kiai e contract. Mahalo na'e mei foki ai e tokolahi, pea ko e ni'ihi te'eki lava 'o faito'o, nonovena pe he middle way (tauhi 'a e komiti ki muli, not the conference lol) ha toe ngaahi ta ki he tu ko 'enau toe foki katoa (lol) Mahalo, ne mei 'ikai 'i ai ha Vahefonua (lol)

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Ko ena kuo u 'osi hili hake ki he tepile 'e taha..

malo.

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2013/7/30 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

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[hunuhunu]

MALO

TAKAMULI HONO HILI HOLO E KOLOA KI HE NGAAHI LAULAU TOTONU..

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

'Oku ou tui ko e taimi totonu pe eni ki he Sutt ke tokolahi hono kakai mei muli, he 'oku 'ikai mama'o ai moe ngahi tokoni fakapa'anga ma'a Tonga, ka e tautefito ki he Siasi.

Fa'a lahi pe sio kovi ki he tami 'oku mau fakamatala ai 'ae tokoni fakapa'anga 'oku 'oatu mei he ngahi Vahefonua Sutt, ka ko e feinga pe ia ke fakamtala'i 'ae pau ke'ave ivi ki he feitu'u 'oku tui ki ai.

Ko faingata'a 'i Pulela'a 'oku 'ikai ko e nunua' ia 'oe Vahefonua ki Tonga, ka ko e nunu'a ia 'oe ta'etokanga mo e 'iaki ke fanongo lelei mahalo..

 'Oku ou fakamanatu atu pe 'oku kei tu'u e ngahi Siasi 'i Muli hange ko e UCA, ngahi Meto kemou huu ki ai 'o ka 'oku fu'u lahi e faingata'a he mafai 'oku mou ma'uu..

Ko e fengaue'aki ia moe ngahi Siasi 'i Muli 'oku lahi ange hono konga fakaKovinanite, ko e kelesi pe.

takamuli




 

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2013/7/31 Lousiale Uasike <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

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[david niu]

hunuhunu, mahu'inga ange ke mou fokotu'u ha 'peacemaker' 'a e mataapule ke ena kae toki foki. . .ko e tu'u pe laa moe poupou.  

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

[david niu]

Hunuhunu 'e sai pe ke toe hili atu he tepile ni moe ki'i me'a ko ena na'a fie laulau ai taha:

http://www.nzkanivapacific.co.nz/2013/07/tupou-college-and-tonga-college-problems-require-re-culturation/#.UfUu9VNQJVg.facebook

tniu.

[Maafu Palu]

Hunu,

Kataki o 'atu ha fo'i makahunu ki he peacemaker 'o e tangata'eiki ke 'oua 'e toe maha, hhhh. Malo si'ene kei mo'ui, mo 'ene kei kataki 'emau talauhu'i ki ai, ka 'oku maau 'aupito e kau pisope he'ene tataki e ako 'a e kau faifekau.

Na'e lau pe foki ko e faka-Sotoma he 'aho ko ee, ka ko eni ia kuo tali ia 'i Nu'usila, ko ia, tau tuku aa e faka-Sotoma, he kuo 'ikai ha toe kakai pehee ia 'i mamani, ka tau 'ai e faka-Nu'usila, 'oku ofi mai.

Sio pe au ki he toka lingolingo 'a e melino he tuifio 'a tangata mo fafine he Tonga High mo e Tupou High. Tuku aa e ako tangata mo e fuhu, kae 'ai 'o fakafafine atu, ke toe 'alu atu 'enau fakakaukau ki ha me'akehe mei he tautaatangata.

Si'oto'ofa

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

[Penisimani Mone]

Ueeeh!...pehee 'e au ko e konga pe eni 'o e "merge"...lol..ko e underthetable mahalo pe eni ia ee...ka 'oku tau talitali pe foki kia Takamuli 'oku taukei ange he fokotu'utu'u paengaa, pe 'oku worth eni ke 'ai hano tepile fo'ou pe 'ikai..

Ka 'oku 'ikai ke fu'u mahino kiate au e ngaahi konga ko eni 'o e contract:

 The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference

When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga: 

1) they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.

2) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new church. 

 Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United

Methodist Church:

1) the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. 

Should reconciliation not be achieved,

1) the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

2) The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga whenever there is a plan to establish a new Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-Nevada Conference. 

Communications:

In order to maintain effective communication between the California-Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga, clear communication channels will be designated and maintained particularly in the areas of mission project development, local church supervision, and overall

mission partnership collaboration.

..mou kataki pe he ta'emahino ni...ka 'oku very very interesting eni..

[david niu]

Malo Fakapulia ka 'oku hangee kiate au ko e draft pe eni ia ee tukukehe kapau ko e final draft ena ia ne sign ai 'a Sh. . .

tniu

 

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Faka'ataa pe Fakapulia ki he ngahi Siasi 'i Muli neongo ko e talanoa ko California-Nevada pe kuo ha ai e aleapau ko eni.. fefe nai 'a NZ  mo OZ ni pe kuo fanongo taha ha me'a tatau mo enii..

Ko ena ne 'osi hili hake pe..ka kuo toe hili atu mo eni ki ai..

Takamuli.

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Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga We step out together following John Wesley’s

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Malo TNiu...lol...'e faifai pea te tau "merge" he draft kae longo pe 'a Sifa mo e fo'i palapoaa ee...

[Ikani Tolu]

Kau Tasilisili

Kuou kii fakatokanga'i hifo he FB a Talia'uli Liava'a mei Frisco kuo sii malolo e faifekau malolo ko Lea'asi Tupou. Fakamolemole mu'a o fakapapau'i mai ange pe oku mo'oni koe si'i faifekau ni ko si'ete tamai pea oku fai e 'ofa lahi ki he tangata'eiki ni.

Ne mau ngaue fakataha mo Lea'asi i Eua he 80 tupu pea koe tangata lelei mo'oni mo fotungofua.

'Ofa atu

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Lufe,

Ko e tu'u he taimini kuo mahino 'e fakaha'ele si'i tangata'eiki Faifekau Malooloo ki Tonga he Tusite kaha'u. 'E lava pe hano ki'i 'apoo 'i Frisco he Sapate pea toki fakakakato ki Tonga he Tu'apulelulu kaha'u.

2013/7/30 Ikani Tolu <ikani...@yahoo.com>

[hunuhunu]

takamuli:

Ko e tokoni lahi 'aupito 'enau ala mai 'o to'o atu e ngaahi feinga pa'anga mei Tonga. Ko e ngaahi feinga pa'anga kotoa pe 'e fou ki he Meto, pea toki fakatatafe holo ki he toenga 'o e ngaahi siasi. Koia, ka ai ha feinga pa'anga mei Tonga, mou kataki 'o fetu'utaki kia Sifa Hingano he kuo 'osi 'iai e kato pa'anga....hunuhunu

[Sitiveni Faupula]

Malo Fkpulia e ma'u ongoongo pea 'oku ou pehe ko 'etau kei palopalema'ia ko e toe fkkau atu mo e ongo kupu koeni:

 Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United

Methodist Church:

1) the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. 

Should reconciliation not be achieved,

1) the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

2) The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga whenever there is a plan to establish a new Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-Nevada Conference. 

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi

[tv]

Ka 'oku 'ikai ke fu'u mahino kiate au e ngaahi konga ko eni 'o e contract:

 The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference

When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga: 

1) they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.

2) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new church. 

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Fakapulia, tatau ho'o fu'u very interesting 'a koe, mo 'eku fie'ilo 'a'aku. Kataki teu fkmahamahalo ka e toki 'oatu 'e Hunu & Lou mo ha'a tautonu e totonu. 'O tau tali ai pe kia SH mo e ma'opo'opo taupotu taha.

1. Kapau 'e toe 'ita ha ki'i kau Tonga 'o 'ai ke fokotu'u SUTT ha feitu'u 'oku te'eki 'i ai ha SUTT, (pe ofiofi atu ai ha SUTT), pea 'e fekau ke nau laka pee 'o malumalu ki he Siasi Metotisi ofi atu he feitu'u ko ia ('o ka 'oku kei mo'ui e Metotisi ko ia ... he 'oku lahilahi vaivai pee Meto palangi he ngaahi 'aho ni, pea lahi lahi mo e kau fk-NZ foki).

2. Tuku aa Koni SUTT hono fkhoohooloto mai e kau fie fokotu'u SUTT 'i he Vahenga Cali-Nevada 'a ha kau Meto. Kapau ko e fie fokotu'u SUTT pe ia 'a ha kau Siasi kehe lelei pe ia, pe ko ha fokotu'u SUTT 'i ha Vahenga Koni kehe (hangee ko e California- Pacific), 'oku 'ataa pe ia mei he aleapau ko eni ... 'ofa 'oku tokoni atu Fakapulia

[Sepesi H.Piukala]

Na'a lahi hunu..

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From: hunuhunu
Sent: ‎31/‎07/‎2013 14:03
To: Tasilisili-he-ngaluope
Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Aleapau Sutt moe ngahi Siasi Muli.

> Ka 'oku 'ikai ke fu'u mahino kiate au e ngaahi konga ko eni 'o e contract:
>

>  *The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the
> California-Nevada Annual Conference*

> When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of
> the California-Nevada Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan
> Church of Tonga:
> 1) they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.
> 2) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of
> United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new
> church.
>

> * Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United*
> *Methodist Church:*

> 1) the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada
> Conference to
> encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist
> Church.
>

> *Should reconciliation not be achieved,*

> 1) the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will

> decide whether or not to recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga
> Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free
> Wesleyan Church of Tonga.
>
> 2) The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the

> Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga whenever there is a plan to establish a new
> Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-Nevada
> Conference.
>

> *Communications:*

> In order to maintain effective communication between the California-Nevada

> Conference of the United Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of

> Tonga, clear communication channels will be designated and maintained
> particularly in the areas of mission project development, local church
> supervision, and overall
> mission partnership collaboration.
>
> ..mou kataki pe he ta'emahino ni...ka 'oku very very interesting eni..
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM, hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> fakapulia:
>> mahalo ko e tepile hala 'eni 'oku tau fetakai ai...lol....Ko e tepile
>> 'eni ia 'o e felafoaki he me'a 'a Toloa mo 'atele. . lol
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM, hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fakapulia:
>>> Ko e fakamatala kakato 'o e contract 'a e Konifelenisi pea moe
>>> Cal-Nevada umc 'oku 'i he peesi 75, 76, 77 'o e miniti 'o e konifelenisi
>>> kakato 'o e 2013. kumi hake 'a Sifa Hingano he na'e kau he kau signers..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Aleapau Femahino’aki ‘a e Konifelenisi mo e Konifelenisi
>>> California-Nevada (UMC)

>>> The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga

>>> The California-Nevada Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church
>>> Introductory statement about our shared commitment in ministry
>>> We begin in deep thanksgiving that God has made us members of the same
>>> body in Christ, reaching across
>>> cultures and seas. It is a blessing to join together in faithfulness to
>>> Jesus' call in Matthew 28:18-19: “All authority
>>> in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make
>>> disciples of all nations..."
>>> It is out of this shared commitment to Making Disciples of Jesus Christ
>>> for the transformation of the world
>>> that we embark on an intentional partnership of the California-Nevada
>>> Annual Conference of the United
>>> Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga We step out
>>> together following John Wesley’s
>>> unique vision: truly the “World is our Parish.”
>>> We enter into these agreements with one another to define our commitment
>>> and to provide a basis of
>>> accountability as partners in ministry. Our mutual goal in this
>>> partnership is to work together to cultivate a more
>>> intentional and effective mission with and for the Tongan Community
>>> within the bounds of the California-

>>> Nevada Conference and with the mission of the Free Wesleyan Church of

>>> 3. Sites designated by the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church

>>> of Tonga.
>>> Special fund raising efforts in California-Nevada for work in Tonga
>>> 1. Conference initiated fund raising: Projects in Tonga, for which there
>>> will be made a conference wide appeal
>>> for funds, shall be reviewed and approved annually by the Conference
>>> Committee on Mission Service. Such
>>> projects will be identified by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga in
>>> conversation with the Bishop and the
>>> Tongan Mission UMVIM Coordinator.
>>> 2. Tongan United Methodist Congregation initiated fund raising: Projects
>>> in Tonga, for which funds will be
>>> raised by the Tongan Community of the California-Nevada Annual
>>> Conference, shall be reviewed and
>>> approved annually by an appropriate group designated by the Bishop and
>>> in consultation with the Heads of
>>> Departments Meeting of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

>>> Both parties to this agreement recognise that neither the Free Wesleyan

>>> Church of Tonga nor the California-
>>> Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church is in a position to
>>> control requests for funds which emanate
>>> from families in Tonga (whether Free Wesleyan or not) and/or responses
>>> to such requests by family members
>>> who belong to United Methodist Churches within the California-Nevada
>>> Conference.
>>> Supervision of Tongan United Methodist Churches
>>> The role of the District Superintendent
>>> The District Superintendent functions as an extension of the
>>> superintending role of the bishop within the
>>> annual conference. His/her role is to exercise oversight and support of
>>> the Church in its mission of making
>>> disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world.
>>> If there are issues or concerns about the health, wellbeing, or
>>> effectiveness of a Tongan Ministry in a United

>>> Methodist Church which come to the attention of the Free Wesleyan Church

>>> of Tonga these concerns should be

>>> raised with the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga

>>> who will then consult directly with the
>>> appropriate United Methodist District Superintendent.
>>> Likewise, if there are issues or concerns about the health, wellbeing or
>>> effectiveness of a California-Nevada

>>> Conference mission in Tonga which come to the attention of the Free

>>> Wesleyan Church of Tonga these concerns
>>> should be raised with the Conference Superintendent for Mission
>>> Collaboration who will consult directly with
>>> the General Secretary of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga. Together a
>>> strategy will be developed to fully
>>> understand the situation and respond.
>>> K o n i f e l e n i s i 9 0 ( 2 0 1 3 ) | 77
>>>  The role of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga within boundaries of the
>>> California-Nevada Annual Conference
>>> The primary roles of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga within the bounds
>>> of the California-Nevada
>>>  Conference are to supervise Free Wesleyan Tongan churches and to
>>> support collegial relationships with United
>>> Methodist churches and the conference leadership.
>>> This agreement recognizes that the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga takes
>>> seriously its pastoral and
>>> supervisory responsibilities for Free Wesleyan churches within the
>>> bounds of the California-Nevada Annual

>>> Conference. Conference leadership welcomes the gifts and insights of the

>>> Free Wesleyan church of Tonga.
>>> Whenever possible these gifts and insights will be utilized to assist
>>> California-Nevada Conference leadership in
>>> playing its part in the shared ministry of making Disciples for the
>>> Transformation of the world.
>>> If concerns arise about a lack of collegiality by a Free Wesleyan Pastor
>>> or Leader and it is reported to a
>>> United Methodist District Superintendent the Bishop will initiate a

>>> conversation with the General Secretary of
>>> the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

>>> The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the
>>> California-Nevada Annual Conference
>>> When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of
>>> the California-Nevada

>>> Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga they

>>> will be encouraged to affiliate with the
>>> United Methodist Church.

>>> The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United
>>> Methodists to leave the United

>>> Methodist Church and form a new church. Should a group of Tongan United
>>> Methodists leave the United

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Hange eni kuo si'i 'ilo'i lelei 'e he kau papalangi e natula e Tonga...koe 'ita pe pea mahino e fokotu'u siasi ia ee...kae mahalo 'oku sai ange pe 'ita mo fokotu'u siasi he 'ita mo fuhu???..hei'ilo...

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[david niu]

Mahalo ko hotau anga fakatonga pe. . .'oku tau lolotonga valau eni he, faanau ko e 'ita pe 'o fuhu, ko e kakai lalahi ia ko e 'ita pe 'o kamata'aki e taukape a fafine, kau aipe moe matu'a tangata 'e ni'ihi, hoko atu ki he fuhu (toki pukepuke pe 'e he kau polisi) faka'osi'aki pe 'a e fokotu'usiasi. 'Oku tau tukuaki'i e fuhu 'a e fanau, kapau te tau siosio lelei pe, kuo hoko e fuhu moe 'ita pe 'o fokotu'u siasi ko e kakano 'o e Tonga. Kataki pe kapau 'oku hala ko e sio fakafaama kumala pe.

lotu moe hufia,

tniu.

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

Sorry Hunuhunu , ma'a lahi e fo'i 'ai ko iaa..sio ia 'a Mailefihi/Siu'ilikutapu  he toutou folau atu ki USA   ee..

takamuli

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Ko 'eku sio loloa ki he aleapau na, hange 'oku teke'i hake ha matapa-teke ne fuoloa hono tapuni talu hono faka'ataa ke vahefonua 'ae kakai Tonga Sutt ki Tonga.

Talu hono fokotu'u e Sutt ,'oku te'eki ketau fanongo ha Fai'angalotu Palangi 'oku Sutt,ka 'oku tau lotu mo hufia na'a faifai 'o a'u atu e Misiona 'ae Sutt 'o ma'u ai ha Fai'angalotu Palangi..

Kapau ko e taumu'a ke Tonga pe , pea 'oku 'ikai ha feitu'u 'e toutai ai 'ae Sutt ka ko e ngahi Fai'angalotu Tonga pe ko ee 'oku UCA, Mo Metotisi, kau ai mo kinautolu 'oku kei 'aukau mai mei Tonga..

Kuo u tui au ki he mo'ui 'ae Sutt, he 'oku fai hifo kinautolu e ngahi Siasi ko eni 'oku 'ataa ai e fakasotoma ke hange ko ee ka teilo ai e fie ako kia Sisu Kalaisi ia,pehe ki he mafai 'oe Tohitapu,, kuo nau tafoki nautolu 'o siofi e ngahi Cultures mo e ngahi Fatihs he ko e fiema'u vivili ia mei he Human right, he 'aho ni.


Takamuli

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> Ko ena ne 'osi hili hake pe.ka kuo toe hili atu mo eni ki ai..

>
> Takamuli.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
> Cc:
>
> Sent:
> Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:03:19 +1300
> Subject:
> Re: [tasilisili] Merge - Fakataha'i - 'Atele & Toloa - Dr T Havea - Sefita
> Hao'uli
>
>
>

> Ueeeh!..pehee 'e au ko e konga pe eni 'o e "merge"...lol..ko e

>>> 2 Tongan United Methodist Congregation initiated fund raising: Projects

[sep...@optusnet.com.au]

 Ne toki foki atu e fanau Kolisi ko Tupou,ne talitali pe 'e he Sutt mo fokotu'utu'u 'e tokoni ke fai ma'ae kau folau.. 'oku nau pehe ko e me'a ia nenau fokotu'u ai e Sutt, ke omai e kakai 'ae Sutt ,'oku 'iai pe Siasi heni ke ne talitali kinautolu..

Fiefia lahi au he me'a kuo ke talanoa ki ai, he teu talanoa 'aki ia, pea 'oku ou tui ko 'ene tokofakapepa eni ha me'a 'o kau ai e tokoni ki Tonga 'ae ngahi Siasi 'oe kau Tonga he Sutt,ke fou mai ha Konifelenisi Muli.

takamuli.

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takamuli:

Ko e tokoni lahi 'aupito 'enau ala mai 'o to'o atu e ngaahi feinga pa'anga mei Tonga. Ko e ngaahi feinga pa'anga kotoa pe 'e fou ki he Meto, pea toki fakatatafe holo ki he toenga 'o e ngaahi siasi. Koia, ka ai ha feinga pa'anga mei Tonga, mou kataki 'o fetu'utaki kia Sifa Hingano he kuo 'osi 'iai e kato pa'anga....hunuhunu

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM, <sep...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Faka'ataa pe Fakapulia ki he ngahi Siasi 'i Muli neongo ko e talanoa ko California-Nevada pe kuo ha ai e aleapau ko eni.. fefe nai 'a NZ  mo OZ ni pe kuo fanongo taha ha me'a tatau mo enii..

Ko ena ne 'osi hili hake pe..ka kuo toe hili atu mo eni ki ai..

Takamuli.

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Ueeeh!..pehee 'e au ko e konga pe eni 'o e "merge"...lol..ko e underthetable mahalo pe eni ia ee...ka 'oku tau talitali pe foki kia Takamuli 'oku taukei ange he fokotu'utu'u paengaa, pe 'oku worth eni ke 'ai hano tepile fo'ou pe 'ikai..

Ka 'oku 'ikai ke fu'u mahino kiate au e ngaahi konga ko eni 'o e contract:

 The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference

When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga: 

1) they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.

2) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new church. 

 Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United

Methodist Church:

1) the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. 

Should reconciliation not be achieved,

1) the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

2) The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga whenever there is a plan to establish a new Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-Nevada Conference. 

Communications:

In order to maintain effective communication between the California-Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga, clear communication channels will be designated and maintained particularly in the areas of mission project development, local church supervision, and overall

mission partnership collaboration.

..mou kataki pe he ta'emahino ni...ka 'oku very very interesting eni..

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM, hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:

fakapulia:

mahalo ko e tepile hala 'eni 'oku tau fetakai ai...lol....Ko e tepile 'eni ia 'o e felafoaki he me'a 'a Toloa mo 'atele. . lol

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM, hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Fakapulia:

Ko e fakamatala kakato 'o e contract 'a e Konifelenisi pea moe Cal-Nevada umc 'oku 'i he peesi 75, 76, 77 'o e miniti 'o e konifelenisi kakato 'o e 2013 kumi hake 'a Sifa Hingano he na'e kau he kau signers..

2013/7/30 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

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[Aisea Matangi]

Vakai'i atu na'a koha fu'u kau tama pe mo ena mei he feitu'u tatau 'oku nau 'ita 'o fokotu'u siasi. 'A ia ko e fuhu mo e fokotu'u siasi ko e fanautama ia 'a e 'ita 'o 'ikai lava ke tuku. Vakai na'a kuo taimi ke fakalele ha kalasi ako'i 'o e fanau ke poto he 'ita.

From: "spa...@optusnet.com.au" <spa...@optusnet.com.au>
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Hange eni kuo si'i 'ilo'i lelei 'e he kau papalangi e natula e Tonga....koe 'ita pe pea mahino e fokotu'u siasi ia ee...kae mahalo 'oku sai ange pe 'ita mo fokotu'u siasi he 'ita mo fuhu???..hei'ilo...

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io eee...malo spalu ngali sai ange 'ita mo fokotu'u siasi ia he 'ita mo fuhu...

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[Lousiale Uasike]

hhhhh Hunu pe ko Toloa/ 'Atele pe ko e SUTT/ Metotisi Muli - koloa 'oku fai ha nga'unu ki he Healing and Reconciliation Mission 'a e SUTT - he high school level mo e local church level hhhh

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Sent: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 10:52:30 PM

fakapulia: mahalo ko e tepile hala 'eni 'oku tau fetakai ai...lol....Ko e tepile 'eni ia 'o e felafoaki he me'a 'a Toloa mo 'atele. . lol

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:44 PM, hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Fakapulia: Ko e fakamatala kakato 'o e contract 'a e Konifelenisi pea moe Cal-Nevada umc 'oku 'i he peesi 75, 76, 77 'o e miniti 'o e konifelenisi kakato 'o e 2013. kumi hake 'a Sifa Hingano he na'e kau he kau signers..

4. Aleapau Femahino’aki ‘a e Konifelenisi mo e Konifelenisi California-Nevada (UMC) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga The California-Nevada Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church Introductory statement about our shared commitment in ministry We begin in deep thanksgiving that God has made us members of the same body in Christ, reaching across cultures and seas. It is a blessing to join together in faithfulness to Jesus' call in Matthew 28:18-19: “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations..." It is out of this shared commitment to Making Disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world that we embark on an intentional partnership of the California-Nevada Annual Conference of the United

Methodist Church and the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga. We step out together following John Wesley’s

United Methodist District Superintendent the Bishop will initiate a conversation with the General Secretary of

the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada

Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.

The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new church. Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United Methodist Church the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. Should reconciliation not be

achieved, the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to

recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga

2013/7/30 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

2013/7/31 Lousiale Uasike <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

2013/7/30 ikunam...@yahoo.com <ikunam...@yahoo.com>

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[Sepesi H.Piukala]

Hhh Stan ,lau 'a Ikalahi..sai e fofo'anga ia 'Oku fuhu pe pea 'ikai mavahe 'o fokotu'u Kalapu hhh...fefe ke tatau pe fuhu mo e 'ita 'o 'oua 'e fokotu'u Siasi..

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Hange eni kuo si'i 'ilo'i lelei 'e he kau papalangi e natula e Tonga...koe 'ita pe pea mahino e fokotu'u siasi ia ee...kae mahalo 'oku sai ange pe 'ita mo fokotu'u siasi he 'ita mo fuhu???..hei'ilo...

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Re: [tasilisili] Aleapau Sutt moe ngahi Siasi Muli.

Malo Fkpulia e ma'u ongoongo pea 'oku ou pehe ko 'etau kei palopalema'ia ko e toe fkkau atu mo e ongo kupu koeni:

 Should a group of Tongan United Methodists leave the United

Methodist Church:

1) the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will work with the California-Nevada Conference to

encourage reconciliation between that group and the United Methodist Church. 

Should reconciliation not be achieved,

1) the Overseas Missions Board of the Free Wesleyan church of Tonga will decide whether or not to recommend to the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga Standing Committee that the group be recognized as a church of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga.

2) The Bishop of the California-Nevada Conference will be consulted by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga whenever there is a plan to establish a new Free Wesleyan Church within the boundaries of the California-Nevada Conference. 

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi

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[Sepesi H.Piukala]

Kuo lahi mai ihe kau palangi ia ae  mavahe mei honau ngahi Siasi o takitaha fokotu'u atu pe ngahi kulupu,ikai ko ha toe Siasi ia,k koha famili pe ia 'o ako Tohitapu mo lotu hufia pea matuku..to e ma'a ange ia ...

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From: david niu
Sent: ‎31/‎07/‎2013 14:30
To: tasilisili

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Aleapau Sutt moe ngahi Siasi Muli.

Mahalo ko hotau anga fakatonga pe. . .'oku tau lolotonga valau eni he, faanau ko e 'ita pe 'o fuhu, ko e kakai lalahi ia ko e 'ita pe 'o kamata'aki e taukape a fafine, kau aipe moe matu'a tangata 'e ni'ihi, hoko atu ki he fuhu (toki pukepuke pe 'e he kau polisi) faka'osi'aki pe 'a e fokotu'usiasi. 'Oku tau tukuaki'i e fuhu 'a e fanau, kapau te tau siosio lelei pe, kuo hoko e fuhu moe 'ita pe 'o fokotu'u siasi ko e kakano 'o e Tonga. Kataki pe kapau 'oku hala ko e sio fakafaama kumala pe.

lotu moe hufia,

tniu.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:19 PM, <spa...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hange eni kuo si'i 'ilo'i lelei 'e he kau papalangi e natula e Tonga...koe 'ita pe pea mahino e fokotu'u siasi ia ee...kae mahalo 'oku sai ange pe 'ita mo fokotu'u siasi he 'ita mo fuhu???..hei'ilo...

[Lousiale Uasike]

Ko hano fakanounou he mahino kiate au 'a e fakamalanga ne fai 'e he Sekelitali Lahi - 'oku mahino 'a e 'ataa e Vahefonua SUTT ia he contract ko 'eni. Ko e fakaato 'eni 'a e fengaue'aki ki he kau Tonga pe ko ia 'oku 'i he malumalu 'o e UMC. Ke tomu'a fengaue'aki e ongo Konifelenisi ki ha kau mamahi he Tongan UMC kuo nau lotomamahi 'o ki'i fakamalumalu fakataimi he lalo 'akau 'i tu'a. Fai 'a e ngaue fakalelei mo e faito'o mo'oe kau mamahi ki he tu'unga te nau fiemalie, pea nau nofo pe he UMC (lol). Pea ka fai atu e ngaue faito'o mo fakalelei 'oku 'ikai ha felave, pea hange ko e tu'unga kehe leva ia 'e a'u ki ai, ki he tuku atu aa e fa'ahinga ko ia ke nau tau'ataina ki he feitu'u ke nau a'u ki ai - pea kapau te nau fili ki he Vahefonua, ko ha'anautolu ia fili. Pea ka nau ka fili ke tau'ataina pe, ko ha'anautolu pe ia tau'ataina (lol). 

Sai pe foki 'a e lotomamahi ia he Vahefonua SUTT, ko e tafoki hake pe ki he Tau'ataina, pea 'ikai toe 'ai contract ia pe toe 'ai ke fakahela ki Tonga (lol)

hoto 'ofa 'i Toloa/ 'Atele mo e SUTT/ Metotisi Muli

[Lousiale Uasike]

Ko hano fakanounou he mahino kiate au 'a e fakamalanga ne fai 'e he Sekelitali Lahi - 'oku mahino 'a e 'ataa e Vahefonua SUTT ia he contract ko 'eni. Ko e fakaato 'eni ia 'a e fengaue'aki ki he kau Tonga pe ko ia 'oku 'i he malumalu 'o e UMC. Ke tomu'a fengaue'aki e ongo Konifelenisi ki ha kau mamahi he Tongan UMC kuo nau lotomamahi 'o ki'i fakamalumalu fakataimi he lalo 'akau 'i tu'a. Fengaue'aki ai e ongo Konifelenisi he ngaue fakalelei mo e faito'o mo'oe kau mamahi ki he tu'unga te nau fiemalie, pea nau nofo pe he UMC (lol). Pea ka fai atu e ngaue faito'o mo fakalelei 'oku 'ikai ha felave, pea hange ko e tu'unga kehe leva ia 'e a'u ki ai, ki he tuku atu aa e fa'ahinga ko ia ke nau tau'ataina ki he feitu'u ke nau a'u ki ai - pea kapau te nau fili ki he Vahefonua, ko ha'anautolu ia fili. Pea ka nau ka fili ke tau'ataina pe, ko ha'anautolu pe ia tau'ataina (lol). 

Kae hange 'a e contract ia ko 'eni ko ha taha 'o e ngaahi cycle. Ko e hu mai pe mei he UMC 'o fai e process of healing and reconciliation he Vahefonua. Pea fai atu e fononga he Vahefonua 'o toe fakamata mai 'a e hangatamaki (lol), pea toketu hake 'o toe vilo atu ki he UMC, pe ko ha hoko atu ki he Tau'ataina, 'o talu aipe 'a e nofoma'u ai. (lol)

[Sitiveni Faupula]

Toni, ko e 'ita mo fuhu ko 'etau me'a fkmamani ia. Ka ko 'etau si'i lotu ni ke tau 'ita pe ka e fekataki'aki pea mo fefkmolemole'aki. Neongo 'oku faingata'a e me'a ni ka 'oku malava pe 'ia Sisu Kalaisi. Ka ko hono mo'oni foki Toni, ko kitautolu ni ko e takanga pe 'a tongiaki.

Tapuaki 'ia Kalaisi

[Sitiveni Faupula]

Vakai ange aa Takamuli mo Sami ki hono lava 'e he kau kk ia 'a e me'a 'oku tonu ke ha sino atu he mo'ui 'a e siasi - 'a e tokoni 'ofa mo e fuhu pe ka e iku fefkmolemole'aki mo kei nofo pe 'i loto. hhhhhh. Malie lahi ia!!!

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Sepesi H.Piukala <sep...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Hhh Stan ,lau 'a Ikalahi..sai e fofo'anga ia 'Oku fuhu pe pea 'ikai mavahe 'o fokotu'u Kalapu hhh...fefe ke tatau pe fuhu mo e 'ita 'o 'oua 'e fokotu'u Siasi..

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Sent: 31/07/2013 14:19

[hingano pakileata]

Tv
Poupou atu ki he feinga gaue na pea oua teke lotosii koe he ko e tama faiako pe ena ia ne ako I toloa...kapau koha taha ne ako I ha kolisi kehe kuopau ke pay ia o fktatau kiheene fiema'u .....

On 31/07/2013 12:37 PM, "david niu" <niut...@gmail.com> wrote:

hunuhunu, mahu'inga ange ke mou fokotu'u ha 'peacemaker' 'a e mataapule ke ena kae toki foki. . .ko e tu'u pe laa moe poupou.  

2013/7/30 hunuhunu <hunu...@gmail.com>

'Oua teke fu'u hoha'a koe tv, he mahalo koe feinga kumi kiki e matapule he kuo fiu ia he kai ika 'i Toloa...

'Oku mau kei faikava pe moe matapule toki foki he Pulelulu...

2013/7/30 tv <ti.va...@gmail.com>

Hunu...malie ee. He'ikai ha to'a 'e lava 'o koto atu pee koe ngaue fresh air mo free manioke;

'Uluaki, ko hai te ne ta'ofi 'a e 'ai'ainoa'ia he 'e faai atu pe kuo lele mai e fie kai kiki pea ka te heka kita ki Ha'apai 'o kumi 'ota he'ikai ta'ofi ia e ha taha he taumaiaa 'oku te ngaue totongi ....hangee pe koe matapule ko ena, kapau ko homou faikava ena he ngaahi uike mai pe ko eni, 'oku kei lele atu e ako ia ka e ha'u ia 'o inukava 'i 'Amelika.

'Oku 'ikai ko e totongi/contract, ka ko e mahu'inga'ia e Siasi he ngaue, pea mo mahu'inga'ia e tama ngaue he'ene ngaue, ko e haa hono founga. Ko e haa ha me'a ke fk'asili lelei ai 'etau ngaue.

On Monday, July 29, 2013, hunuhunu wrote:

tv, ne mau toki faikava heni moe matapule tonga 'oku faaiako ta'e totongi pe 'i Toloa he foomu 7. Na'ane ki'i kole ange pe ki he pule ke 'oange pe mu'a ha'ane ki'i allowance ke 'ai'aki ha'ane ki'i fiema'u he kuo pahia hono mali he fua mai mei NZ 'ene ngaahi fiema'u. Pehee atu 'e he pule ako, ' Ko e ha, kuo ke fiu koe he kai ta'etotongi mo nofo ta'e totongi heni kuo ke toe 'ai allowance ai" Pehe atu e matapule, he koe 'ai ki he nofo ta'e totongi moe kai ta'e totongi, he 'oku totongi e manioke sio'ata ha feitu'u, koe puaka pe mo Toloa 'oku kai e me'a ta'e totongi... Sai koe tv he 'e ma'u pe ho'o allowance 'au....

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[Ikani Fakasiieiki]

vakai'i lelei pe, pe ko e aleapau pe ko e toe fakafoki mai pe talite mo e pule fk-kolonia...'o 'ikai fktaha 'a e ongo fa'ahi 'o fatu ka ko e fatu 'e he fa'ahi e taha ke fkmo'oni mai ai e fa'ahi e taha...

[Aisea Matangi]

Ko 'ene asi he miniti 'a e koni, ko e 'ave ke alea'i ai pea fai ai e fakamo'oni, pe na'e 'osi fakamo'oni 'a e ongo fa'ahi ia pea toki ave pe ia ki he koni ke sitapa'i. Ko e me'a foki ia 'oku talaatu ai kemou 'a'a he fakataha Fakapulia mo Ma'afu he ko ena e mole fua atu pe fo'i me'a ia 'o hao.

[Penisimani Mone]

Kataki pe Ma'afu, ne 'i ai ha'amou lau ki he contract ko enii he Konii, pea mo hono olaa?

2013/8/1 Aisea Matangi <aisea....@xtra.co.nz>

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[Penisimani Mone]

Tau kei talitali pe foki 'Ikani ki ha comment 'a e co-signer...kae mahalo na'a tokoni eni:

 The establishment of new Free Wesleyan Churches within the California-Nevada Annual Conference

When members of the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga move into the area of the California-Nevada Conference that is not served by the Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga: 

1) they will be encouraged to affiliate with the United Methodist Church.

(isn't this the present mutual practice in good faith bet. the parties? why bother to contract further of it in written document?is it more binding in written contract form?...etc)  

2) The Free Wesleyan Church of Tonga will not encourage any group of United Methodists to leave the United Methodist Church and form a new church.

(what does "encourage" mean in here? any defnitions? has FWCT ever "encouraged" any? of whose prerogatives to leave UMC, of the FWCT or of the members themselves? isn't freedom of religion an inalienable right of every member? is this clause based on fear and suspicion but not in love and faith? can we guarantee that this clause can hold back leaving members in either UMC or FWCT? does this clause likewise encourages UMC to take good care of Tongan  FWCT members? what does this clause emphasize, the instituion or the Church? is this a new kind of institutionalized enslaving of the church members? am I so suspicious and lack of faith in this?...etc).

...mou kataki pe he ta'emahino ni...ka ko e anga pe laulau hifo...kae toki hoko atu..

2013/8/1 Ikani Fakasiieiki <ika...@hotmail.com>

vakai'i lelei pe, pe ko e aleapau pe ko e toe fakafoki mai pe talite mo e pule fk-kolonia...'o 'ikai fktaha 'a e ongo fa'ahi 'o fatu ka ko e fatu 'e he fa'ahi e taha ke fkmo'oni mai ai e fa'ahi e taha...

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[ikunam...@yahoo.com]

ka ko e toe ha 'Ikani, he 'oku mahino lelei pe meihe wordings 'a e tukunga 'o e fiema'u hhhhh kapau 'e tokoni e contract ni kiha founga 'o ha fengaue'aki vaofi e UMC mo e Vahefonua SUTT USA/Hawaii hhhhh mahalo 'e tokoni ange ia

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Subject: RE: [tasilisili] Aleapau Sutt moe ngahi Siasi Muli.

vakai'i lelei pe, pe ko e aleapau pe ko e toe fakafoki mai pe talite mo e pule fk-kolonia...'o 'ikai fktaha 'a e ongo fa'ahi 'o fatu ka ko e fatu 'e he fa'ahi e taha ke fkmo'oni mai ai e fa'ahi e taha...

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[Tuifua, Talanoa]

Lufe,

 

Koia, ‘oku fai hono ‘apo ‘i he SUTT Penieli ‘i EPA he poo Sapate pea si’i fakafolau ki Tonga…..

 

Kindly,

Miss Noa

FUMC – Palo Alto

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ikani Tolu
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:39 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Ko e mo'oni kuo si'i pekia 'ae Faifekau Malolo ko Lea'asi Tupou?

 

 

Kau Tasilisili

 

Kuou kii fakatokanga'i hifo he FB a Talia'uli Liava'a mei Frisco kuo sii malolo e faifekau malolo ko Lea'asi Tupou. Fakamolemole mu'a o fakapapau'i mai ange pe oku mo'oni koe si'i faifekau ni ko si'ete tamai pea oku fai e 'ofa lahi ki he tangata'eiki ni.

 

Ne mau ngaue fakataha mo Lea'asi i Eua he 80 tupu pea koe tangata lelei mo'oni mo fotungofua.

 

'Ofa atu

Lufe

 

 

 

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[Ikani Fakasiieiki]

ko e anga pe e fifili...ka ko e aleapau ko e me'a ke tauhi lelei 'o 'oua 'e maumau'i...pea ko hono tauhi lelei oku 'iai pe hono ola lelei mo fkkoloa pea ko e taimi e maumau'i ai pea oku iai pe hono nunu'a. 

oku ou tui ko e me'a lelei 'a e fetalanoa'aki oku fai mo e kautaha 'a e ongo koni ke kei fkhoko 'a e fekau lahi... 

[Maafu Palu]

Hehe Fakapulia,

Ne ke 'ifee koaa koe he'etau Koni, 'oku ke toe 'eke mai ee. 'Oku ou 'amanaki ko e contract ko eni, 'e kei lava aipe ke tokoni'i ho'o feinga ako 'oku teu atu ki ai 'i Sepitema.

Na'e 'osi tali pe 'a e contract ia pea fakamo'oni ki ai 'a e kau Paipa he 'aho na'e fakanofo ai e kau faifekau hoko 'a e Siasi - he Sapate fakakonifelenisi.

'I hono alea'i 'o e contract, he Koni Kakato, ne tu'u hake 'a Samate mo e Setuata Lahi 'o US, 'a Vaha, 'o taukave'i ke toe tukumai ha taimi ke nau o ai 'o talatalanoa ke mahino ki hotau fa'ahinga 'a e me'a 'oku fai ki ai e aleapau kae toki fakamo'oni.

Ka na'a ku ongo'i ne loto e kau Paipa Siasi ia ke fei mo fakamo'oni'i e aleapau he kuo hela mai 'a Sifa mo 'ene Pisope Lahi mei US. Ko ia, ne u ongo'i ne ta'efiemalie 'aupito pe 'a Samate mo 'ene Setu ki he aleapau, ka ne 'osi tali ia 'e he Koni.

Ko au, ne u fakakaukau, pea ko e ha leva hano 'aonga 'o e fakamo'oni aleapau pehe ni, kapau 'oku ta'efiemalie 'a e kakai 'o e Siasi 'oku tau 'amanaki ke fakahuu ki he loto aleapau. Ko ia, 'oku ou 'amanaki 'oku ngaue lahi atu pe 'a Sifa Hingano hena mo e kau Piso pe fakamahino, 'a e ngaahi me'a 'oku fai ai 'a e ta'afefiemalie'aki.

Ka mau lotu atu pe mei heni, mo teu ke toe fai ha fakalelei he Koni kaha'u. Ko e konga lahi 'o e ngaue 'ae  Koni e ta'u ni, ko e fakataha 'a e Palesiteni moe  Sekelitali mo e kau Mapakipaki'i Siasi mei muli, ke fai ha femahino'aki ki he tukunga 'oku faka'amu atu ki ai 'a e Siasi mei Tonga ni.

Pea 'oku ou ongo'i 'e hokohoko atu aipe 'a e me'a ni he ngaahi Koni kaha'u.

Si'oto'ofa

2013/8/1 Penisimani Mone <peni...@gmail.com>

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Sia'atoutai Theological College, Nafualu, TONGA.

"Let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking to
Jesus" - Anonymous 1st Century Preacher (aka "Hebrews")

[Penisimani Mone]

Malo 'aupito Ma'afu, ka ko e tepile 'iloo pe neu fa'a ma'u atuu..lol..pea 'oku tau kei lotua aipe 'a e leleitahaa ma'a e Siasii, pea na'a ko ha visone eni kuo pa mai...  

2013/8/1 Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>

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[Lousiale Uasike]

Malo Ma'afu 'a e kinikini mai e ni'ihi 'o e fetalanoa'aki mo e talanga he fiema'u koia ne fakahu atu meihe UMC. 'Oku hange fakamalanga ia ne fai meihe kau fakafofonga Vahefonua US/ Hawaii, 'oku ai hanau mafai he levolo 'o e fetalanoa'aki Fakavaha'a Konifelenisi. Ko e levolo 'oku fai ai e ngata, ko e Vahefonua, pea ko e me'a ia ke nau tokanga nautolu kiai. Ko 'enau foki lelei mai, 'o tokanga kihe ngaahi me'a 'oku nau kaunga kiai. Ko e faito'o e kakai 'oku 'i he Vahefonua! Ko e ngaahi ha fale 'o e Vahefonua, ke ai si'ano ki'i tofi'a 'i memeni hhhhh. Feinga'i ke malu (fakalao), malohi (fakapa'anga), kaukaua (ma'opo'opo e kakai, feongoongoi e kau faifekau mo ngaue fakataha!), lelei faka-administration, mo e ngaue lahi faka'uli'ulia ia ke nau tokanga kiai. Tuku e alea fakaKonifelenisi ia ke fai 'e he Komiti Konifelenisi mo e levolo 'o e kau taki. He kuo 'osi fakamahino 'e he Sekelitali, ke nau ma'u ha fiemalie, he 'oku 'ikai kaunga e contract kiate kinautolu. Fakapulia, welcome kihe Vahefonua hhhhh. Ko e hu'u mai ki GTU? pe ko Claremont? See you hhh

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[Lousiale Uasike]

Hehe Fakapulia, - - -'Oku ou 'amanaki ko e contract ko eni, 'e kei lava aipe ke tokoni'i ho'o feinga ako 'oku teu atu ki ai 'i Sepitema.
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Fakapulia, ko e SUTT Penieli, 'oku ai 'a Samiu, 'e 'ataa ia 'i Sanuali hano fakakakato 'e Samiu 'ene fehikitaki ki he Vahenga LA, pea 'i he fehikitaki, 'oku 'asi ai, fiema'u ha taha mo e fai 'o e ako hhh. Ngali lelei ha'o connect mai ki Penieli (kaingalotu) mo hono faifekau 'uma'a foki 'a e 'ofisi 'o e Pule hhh, 'o ka ko ho'o fou mai ki GTU/ PSR hhh Pe kuo 'osi maau ha networking ia mei he 'ofisi 'o e fehikitaki hhh Sai 'a Penieli 'oku ai hono 'api nofo'anga hhh pea ke toki 'aka pasikala aipe ki he ngaahi kalasi hhh.

Ko e SUTT Penieli, 'oku lolotonga fai 'enau langa honau falelotu 'a ia ne si'i mofia honau falelotu motu'a. Ngali ke tu'unga lelei mo malu fakalao 'a Penieli 'o ka 'osi 'enau langa (property), toe pe 'eni ke nau fakaakeake he tu'unga fakapa'anga mei he 'osi 'enau langa, ki ha tu'unga ke nau lava apply ai ha faifekau mei Tonga. Mahino e tukunga 'o e SUTT Tapanekale he application 'a e Faifekau Tokoni Vahefonua ne ui he 2008. Talu mei ai, mo e 'ikai follow up 'e he Vahefonua 'a e me'a 'oku tukungamataki, ke fai ha ngaue ki ai, kapau 'oku ala lava 'o fai ha ngaue ki ai.

Ka 'e sai ho'o hu mai Fakapulia, kapau ko e hu'u mai ki Berkeley, ke ala 'ahi'ahi'i e tu'unga 'o Penieli he 'osi 'enau langa, ha 'osi ha ta'u 'e 2, fe'unga mo ha taimi ke ke apply OPT ai, ki ha trial 'i Penieli 'o e employment application ma'a ha faifekau mei Tonga. He na'a ke 'osi Faifekau Pule koe 'i Niua hhh

malo e teu katoanga.

[Lousiale Uasike]