Tulou atu moe kaunga fononga ‘i he tui he paenga ni kae ‘ataa keu lavelave atu. ‘Oku ou fakamalo atu ki he ta’okete Faifekau ko ‘eni (Ma’afu) he’ene kau mai ki he’etau fakalotofale’ia ni pea ‘oku fakamafana. Kimu’a pea u hoko atu ki ha hano lave’i ‘oe kaveinga ni ‘oku ou faka’amu keu tomu’a fakama’ala’ala ‘ae ngaahi fehu’i ni he ala tokoni ia ki hano fakalakalaka ‘ae kaveinga ni.
Koha ki’i fakakaukau Koe fo’i lea malie taha kiate au he mala’e ‘oe Tala’otua koe fo’i lea koe “ATTEMPT.” Ko ha’aku ki’i fakatonga ki ai koe “FEINGA PE” I he lea ni ‘oku ne fakamatala kakato ai kiate au “Kohai ‘ae ‘Otua pea Kohai au?” Koe fakakaukau ‘oe fa’unga ‘oe Lotu 1. Koe fakalangilangi (Fakamatala’i ai kohai ia ‘oku fai ki ai ‘ete lotu, eg; “…’Ae ‘Afiona koe ‘Otua taumama’o koe ngaluope he ope ...” ) 2. Vete (Fakamatala’i ai ko hai leva ‘oku ne fai atu e Lotu. Eg; “…Mau punou homau poko’i mata ni ki he efu he koe fakangatangata ki mautolu moe ‘uli ‘i ho’o ‘aoo…” pea toki hoko atu…3-4-5-6 pea toki ‘emeni. Ko ha taha kuo ne claim kuo ne ‘ilo faka’aufuli ‘ae mo’oni ‘oe Tohitapu ‘oku ne tokoni leva ia ki hano fakanenefu’i ‘oe mo’oni ko ia. He ‘oku te’eki tene lava ke tali ‘ae fehu’i “Kohai ‘ae ‘Otua pea Kohai au?” ‘Oku ho’ata mei he tokotaha ko ia ‘ae ngaahi mo’oni’i me’a ko ‘eni: 1. Tatapuni fale fakatala’otua 2. ‘Ikai tene toe tali ke si’i manava hake ‘ae Tohitapu ‘iate ia pe mo ’ene faka’uhinga ke fe’unga moe tukunga ‘oe kakai kotoa pe ‘ihe feitu’u kotoa pe pea ‘i he taimi kotoa pe, he na’e ‘ikai si’i hiki ‘ae tohi ni ke fakataumu’a ki ha fo’i kakai pe ‘e taha ‘ihe feitu’u pe ‘e taha. Kia te au koe lea Tala’otua pe Lotukalafi ko ha’atau feinga pe ke fakamatala’i ‘ae ‘Otua. ‘Oku ou tui koe fa’ahinga tala’otua pehee na’e ‘i he Laumalie ‘o Dr. Molitoni “Pea ka ‘iloange teu sioa ‘a Sisu tonu ‘o femataaki teu toki ‘ilo kano ‘ae loloa loloto ma’olunga ivi lahi he ‘Ofa hulu” Ko ha ki’i fehu’i 1.’E hoku tokoua Sitiveni! ‘Oku faingata’a’ia ‘ae kau muimui e kaveinga ni he ‘oku ‘ikai tuhu’i mahino mai ki he fale ni koe fee koaa ‘ae tu’unga ‘o Sisu (Christology) ‘oku ke fematematei mai ai hono taukave’i pea ke tu’u ma’u ai, kae objection ‘ae talangaa? Hange ko ‘eni: ‘uluaki ‘ai hono Divinity pea ‘e focus leva ‘ae talanga ai pea mo hono ngaahi fakafelave’i kotokotoa pe ‘e ala ma’u pea ka toki ‘osi ia pea toki hoko ki hono Humanity koe’uhi ke tatafe pea maau he tene fakakoloa ‘e ia ‘ae paenga ni. He kapau te tau fakatokanga’i ‘ae aafe holo ‘ae talanga ‘o ngali ‘oku mata vaivai e ‘ihi pea ngavaivai e ‘ihi koe tupu mei he ‘ikai objection e issue, he ‘oku tokanga mai e ta’okete koee ‘i hono Divinity kae fevalevalei atu e leka koee hono Humanity. ‘Oku mahino ‘aupito pe ‘ae ta’emala ke fakamavahevahe’i ‘a hono ongo tu’unga ko ia, ka koe feinga pe ha me’a ke Constructive Criticism ‘ae talanga ka ‘oku ‘ikai koe Destructive Criticism pea ‘oku ou tui ‘e tatafe fakatautehine leva ‘etau fe’inasi’aki. 2. Koe ‘eku fehu’i atu pe ki he fale ni pe koe fa’ahinga kalasi Tohitapu fe ‘oku fai mei ai ‘a ‘etau ngaahi ma’u’anga fakamatala? Ko ‘eku ‘uhingaa he ‘oku taimi lahi hono fa’a ngaue mai’aki ‘ae lea “Koe lau ‘eni ‘ae Tohitapu” pe koe “Sisu koee ‘oku ‘asi he Tohitapu” pe koe “Sisu ‘o Nasaleti” Kiate au matamata koe ngaahi Tohitapu ‘oku kehekehe hono lalahi. Tau fakataataa’aki ‘eni: Koe Tohitapu koee ‘oku fematematei atu ai ‘a Hunuhunu mo Lotopoha “koe kalasi iiki pe kidkid” ia ka koe “kalasi lalahi ‘ena ia Veni ‘oku ‘ia koe.” ‘Oku ou ‘uhinga heni ki he fakaleveleva ‘a hono tatapuni fale’i kotoa ‘e si’i tokoua ni (veni) ‘ae ngaahi faka’uhinga tohitapu kotoa ‘ae fale ni ‘oku ‘ikai hoa moe lau ‘ene fu’u Tohitapu kalasi lalahi (6XL). Na’a ‘oku ke ma’u ‘e koe tokoua ‘ae fu’u Original Script ‘oe Tohitapu pea mo hono Commentary totonu kae upload hake ke tau ‘inasi kotoa mei ai.
Ko ha ki’i usuusu 1.Na’e lolotonga fai ‘emau faikava tame’a pe he hall ‘i Vava’u ‘oku ui ko Nasaleti pea moe hu mai ‘ae fu’u konaa mo ‘ene peleti kale. Koe kamata kene ma’u ia moe toe hu hake moe tangata’eiki pe ‘oku si’i ‘atamai vaivai. Na’e tuai e kemo kuo tu’u hake ‘ae fu’u konaa ni ‘o ‘ave ‘ene me’akai ma’ae tangata’eiki pea ne toe ‘oange kotoa mo ‘ene toenga penipeni ki ai ‘a ia ko hono fakakatoa na’e fe’unga kotoa moe seniti ‘e 7. Pea puli atu ‘ae tangata’eiki ia kae pehee hake ‘ae palangi pisikoa ia he faikava ka ‘oku poto pe ia he’etau lea” Kau Tangataa! Kuo u lava he ‘aho ni keu sio kia SISU ‘i NASALETI NI” pea u talaange “he ‘oku ‘ikai teke fanonga koaa koe ‘i falelotu kia Patele hono toutou lau atu ‘a Sisu he Tohitapu?” Talamai ‘e ia “‘oku ‘i Vava’u ni pe ia misi.” “Ko ia ‘oku ne fai ki he si’i hifo ko ‘ene fai ia kiate au. Na’a ke sio ki he me’a ‘ae konaa na’e fai ‘ane nai ko Sisu mo’oni ia. ‘OOooo ta koe Sisu ‘eni ia ‘oku ‘i Nasaleti pe ia ‘i Vava’u kohu foki au ‘oku i heee pee masi’i tokoua pea mo ‘ema kata ‘oma hao ai pe he fo’i inu ko ia.
2.Na’e ‘i ai e motu’a pe ‘a mautolu mei Kolomotu’a na’e fai ‘ene po malanga fo’ou ‘I Tufuenga. Pea fiefia e hoa ‘one fakatau mai ‘ene fu’u Tohitapu fo’ou. Pea hanga ‘ehe motu’a malanga ‘o ‘ai e fo’i tu’aniu ‘o faka’ilonga’i’aki ‘a 2 Pita 1:4 he ko ia ‘ene veesi malanga. Ta koe na’e kilofi atu ia ‘e hono kaunga faikava ‘ae fo’i tu’aniu pea ne toho’i mai ‘e ia ‘o heu nifo’aki (hufanga he fakatapu) pea koe fee ‘ene fakaava hake ‘ene Tohitapu fo’ou he funga tu’unga kuo puli ‘ae fo’i tu’aniu ia pea kamata kene huke takai holo ‘ae tohi mo ‘ene pupuha’ia pea kaka hake ‘ae faifekau ‘o ‘oatu ‘ene Tohitapu ki ai. Kae kehe koe ‘osi ‘ae malanga pea foakiange ai pe ‘e he motu’a ‘ene Tohitapu fo’ou ma’ae faifekau pea ko ‘eni ‘ene lea “ Faifekau ma’u ‘e koe ‘ae Tohitapu ko ‘eni na’e kumi mai ‘ehe hoa, he ta koee ‘oku ‘ikai ‘asi ‘a 2 Pita ia ai.” Sio ki he malie seni ee!! Veni kataki pe ka ke toe vaka’i lelei ‘ae kalasi lalahi ko ‘ena na’a ‘oku ‘ikai ‘asi ai ‘a SISU KOE IMANUELA KOE OTUA ‘I HOTAU LOTOLOTONGA!!
Koha ki’i tokanga Kau tanagata moe kau fefine ‘oe paenga ni tau fe’inasi’aki he malohi taha moe fefeka taha kae fai’aki pe ‘ae loto lelei koe matu’aki fakakoloa ki he’etau mo’ui Fakalaumalie na’a hoko ‘ae paenga ni mo hono ngaahi taukave ke mole pea momoko ai hotau va Fakalaumalie ‘ae me’a mahu’inga taha he mo’ui ni he ko ‘etau ojective ke achieve hili ‘ae mo’ui ni. “Koe loto haohaoa koe ‘IMISI ‘o ’OU (Sisu). Ko hai pe ‘oku loto haohaoa he paenga ni koe ‘imisi ia ‘o Sisu he mo’ui ko ia.
Toki ‘osi ‘emau fakamalohi sino koe to’o noa pe foki he ‘oku kehe ‘ae kuonga mo hono ‘alunga pea kuo fai e lulunga masi’i mapuhoi ee. malo Rev. Semisi Kava (Koe pule le’ole’o ‘oe vahefonua ‘Aositelelia he fo’i uike pe ‘e ua nai mo ha ngaahi miniti si’i pe lolotonga ‘ae Konifelenisi. Koe ‘ai atu pe na’a fiema’u masi’i hunuhunu ki he talitali malanga ‘a pongipongi ee!!) |
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Koloti,
teke hiki koe 'o Ma'afu jr?........hunuhunu
'Oku 'iai e ngaahi MATANGI ia 'e TATAU AI PE, PE 'E TATAPUNIFALE, 'e KEI TUKUHIFO pe ia ki lalo 'e he MALOHI 'o e matangi ko ia. Pea ko e TAHA, 'oku 'IAI e ngaahi FALE ia 'e LELEI 'AUPITO hano FAKAAVAAVA he taimi 'oku TOO mai ai, he ka tatapuni, 'e MAUMAU LAHI IA pea 'ikai toe 'aonga hano konga 'ona, ngata pe he tafu'aki e afi mo e laku ki he TU'AKOLO (e.g. Kihena).Ko e TAHA foki, 'oku 'IAI e fa'ahinga fale ia, ko e Too mai ko ee 'a e Matangi malohi (e.g. Afaa Puhi -Hurricane etc.) pea 'e 'IKAI fiema'u ia ke TATAPUNI pe FKAVAAVA MATAPA, ka ko e TAA'I pe 'o e ngaahi POUTULIKI ke HOLO ki LALO pea 'e toki nofo malu ai e ki'i famili ko ia.Ko ia ko e FOUNGA, 'oku 'IKAI puel'imai ia 'e he MATANGI, ka 'oku 'iai e KAUNGA 'a e Matangi ki ha Founga ke ngaue'aki. Ka 'e FKTEFITO e konga lahi 'o e FOUNGA mei he TAUKEI 'a e Tangata pe Fefine ko ia, he VAA'IFONONGA 'O E MO'UI ko eni. Pea ko e me'a 'e TAHA, ke manatu'i, KUOPAU pe ke 'IAI e KAUNGA MAI 'a e me'angaue 'oku ALA MA'U he taimi ko ia FKTAHA mo e MALAVA ke ngaue'aki lelei'aki ('ilo mo poto hono ngaue'aki).
.... ko e fiepoto 'a e vale ko e fakafiko atu.
KUOU fai, ko e ma'u pe ia 'a'aku, he ko e course ko ia ia na'a mau fai.
.... ko e fiepoto 'a e vale ko e fakafiko atu.
Malo Semisi, tau mo e ngaue fktauange ke kei tokoni atu 'ae 'Eiki he feinga 'oku fai mo e famili , manatu'i kuo 'osi tokolahi 'ae kau Faifekau 'i Tonga., tau nofo ai leva heni.
Ko e Tui pe ena Ma'afu ke fakalanga'aki e kau Tui ki he Sisu kehe mei he Sisu 'o Nasaleti, 'alo 'oe 'Otua mo Misaiaa, Sisu 'o e Tohitapu Katoa ko eFolofola 'ae 'OTua.
Malie 'ae langa talanoa moe ta'omaki talanoa.
takamuli.
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Koha ki’i tokanga
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Toki ‘osi ‘emau fakamalohi sino koe to’o noa pe foki he ‘oku kehe ‘ae kuonga mo hono ‘alunga pea kuo fai e lulunga masi’i mapuhoi ee. |
malo Rev. Semisi Kava =========== Faifekau malo ee ngaue, ko e me'a lelei 'ena ia, fakamalohi sino...? Tokoua! 'Oku ou tui pe 'oku kei manatu'i ho'o mou tangata'eiki na'e nofo ange ki homau ki'i koloo ee...? Pea ko 'ene lotu kamata 'i he 'enau fktaha kulupu misinale...! pea ko e kupu'i lea 'i he 'ene lotu, na'a nE pehee?
"foaki ivi mai ki si'i kakai ni... kenau lotu pe mo pamu, kae sai ee misinale" koia ai tokoua hahaha... ko e me'a lelei ee lotu ia mo fkmlohi sino? mahalo ko e taha ia ee ngaahi akonaki 'a e Sisu Nasaleti? Ke 'ai ha'a tau tokanga makehe ki hotau sino... mahalo pe! Hangee ko e ngaahi fe-poupouaki 'oku tau fa'a fanongoaa? Lotu ke hulu, fakamalohi ke fefeka pea ngaue ke lahi faufaua...
mahalo! naa ko ha ATTEMPT fkFelehuhuni 'ena ia ee... moe 'ofa atu ki he to'ofohe he SUTTA oz 'oku fai...
Ko 'etau kau Rev le'ole'o? kuo nau hangee pe ha ngaahi fo'i 'umosi!
mapuho 'a tevolo.
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--- On Tue, 6/30/09, seni taniela <seni...@yahoo.com.au> wrote: . . . Ko ia ai 'oku mahu'inga e fokotu'u e tv ke fai ha sio ki he hisitolia 'o e kau Siu mo e kehekehe 'enau ngaahi view mo e view e ngaahi fonua kaungaa'api
****************************************************************************************** 'e toe malie ange seni 'a hono fakakakato e fiema'u ko ia ki he hisitolia 'o e kau siu mo e kehekehe 'enau view mo e view 'a e ngaahi fonua kaunga'api - he 'oku iku atu pe ia ki he kau e ngaahi kofu ia 'o e culture mo e religion 'o e fonua kaunga'api he kofu 'oku fakateunga'aki 'e he siu 'ene lotu siu - pea na'a mo e ngaahi tohi hisitolia ko ia 'o e fuakava motu'a, ko hono ngaahi talanoa 'ona, 'oku fakamohenga fakataha atu ia mo e ngaahi talanoa tupu'a 'o e ngaahi fonua kaunga'api - ko ia koaa jh? - ko e faka'ilonga fehu'i. |
--- On Tue, 6/30/09, seni taniela <seni...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:. . . Pea kimu'a pea hoko mai 'a Sisu - ko e fakakaukau e resurrection na'e makehe view e kau Siuu mei he toenga e maamanii. kehe mei he resurrection fakamaui 'a kakai Tonga kimu'a pea ha'u e lotu kalisitianee...
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mahino ko e toki fakakaukau kimui 'a e mo'ui hili 'a e mate (toetu'u) ia he kuonga kimui 'o e fuakava motu'a - he na'e fakamamafa'i 'e 'isileli ia 'a e mahu'inga 'o e mo'ui ni - pea nau tokangaekina pe 'e kinautolu 'a e kau mai 'a honau 'otua he mo'ui ni. ko e tapuaki 'o ha'a faitotonu mo e tautea 'o e kau faikovi na'e hoko ia he lolotonga 'o e mo'ui. pea fakafekau'aki ai 'a e mo'ui mo e mate ki he lolotonga 'a e kei mo'ui.
pea ko e taha 'o e fakakaukau 'o e toetu'u he tukunga ko ia, 'e mahu'ingamalie ia he taimi 'o e faingata'a'iaai 'a 'isileli - pea hange ko e tangilaulau 'a e ngaahi saame 'e ni'ihi, 'o 'enau 'i he takele 'o hetesi - ko e fakamatala ia 'o e mate - pea ko e ngaue mai 'a e 'otua 'o fakamo'ui kinautolu, 'o fakatau'ataina kinautolu mei he ngutu luo 'o mate - 'oku nofoloto ai 'a e taha e fakakaukau 'o e toetu'u - ko e kalanga atu pe mei seloo mo hetesi. |
Ongo Faifekau Uesilian
Mo kataki 'o puka ha'amo sea pea mo fakatou puna mai ki Fiji ni kia Toutai ke ma hanga 'o fakamaau 'i ho;omo me'a na kae tuku ho'omo oo 'o kee he 'api ko ena 'oku 'ikai koe 'api ena ke tau oo 'o kee ai mo fakatonutonu ai ko hai 'oku hala ko hai 'oku mo'oni.
Lufe
----- Original Message ----
From: Maafu Palu <maafu...@gmail.com>
To: Tasilisili-he-ngaluope <tasil...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:26:37 AM
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: Tohitapu fee!!!
Masi'i Misi Kava,
Malo 'aupito e puketu'u 'etau talanga 'i he me'a ni. 'Oku ke mea'i pe
'oku ou faka'apa'apa 'aupito ki ho'o ngaahi fakakaukau neongo 'oku
'ikai foki teu manavasi'i ai ke kehekehe meiate koe, he'eku tu'u ma'u
he Tohitapu.
'Oku ou fiefia 'i ho'o ongo tukuaki (accusations) 'oku fai mai kiate
au, he 'oku ou lau ia ko ha me'a tu'unga ki ai hano 'unuaki atu 'eku
mo'ui ki mua; 'a e: (1) Tatapuni fale fakateolosia ('oku ou sai'ia he
lea "lotukalafi" ko e faka-Tonga totonu ia 'a Dr Molitoni ki he
"Theology); (2) 'Ikai tali ke manavahake 'a e Tohitapu mo 'ene
faka'uhingame'a ke fe'unga mo e kakai kotoa pe 'i he feitu'u kotoa pe
'i he taimi kotoa pe. Ka te u 'atu pe ha tali ki ho'o ongo tukuaki,
pea mo ha ongo fale'i 'e 2, telia na'a taku ko ha 'ai'ainoa'ia mo ha
fakavavekovi 'a e ngali pehe 'eku mo'ui.
Ki ho'o tukuaki (1) 'oku ou pehe, 'oku taau ke tau fakatokanga'i, ko e
"fakaavaava fale" 'oku 'ikai ko ha me'a ia 'oku lelei he taimi kotoa
pe, pea 'i he feitu'u kotoa pe. He 'oku lelei ia he taimi 'ea lelei,
ka 'oka fekihiaki e ngaahi matangi saikolone, pea ta ko e fakaavaava
fale, ko e toki me'a fakatu'utamaki taha ia ke fai he taimi ko ia.
'Oku 'ikai foki lelei ia 'i he feitu'u kotoa pe, he matamata 'e lelei
'oka ko ha fale tu'umatatahi, ka 'okapau ko ha fale 'oku tu'u 'i ha
ve'e tofunanga pe laku'anga veve (tapu mo hou'eiki) pea tala'ehai 'e
ai ha 'uhinga lelei ke fakaavaava ai.
'A ia 'oku mo'oni e lau 'a Koheleti, 'oku ai pe e taimi mo hono me'a.
Ko e taimi ke fakaavaavafale mo e taimi ke tatapuni fale. Kapau leva
'oku ongo atu 'eku fakamatala 'oku ou tatapuni fale fakalotukalafi,
pea 'oku 'uhinga leva ia he 'oku ai e taimi pehe he'etau mo'ui. Ko e
ngaahi fu'u "saikolone fakaakonaki" ko eni 'oku kau ai 'a e "Sisu
Tonga", 'e 'ikai lava ke matu'uhekina 'oka fakaavaava fale. Ka 'e ai e
taimi 'e tolona atu ai e matangi pea fakaavaava leva e ngaahi matapa
ke ha'u ha 'ea ki fale. Kapau 'oku ke pehe ko e me'a lelei e
fakaavaava fale, koe'uhi ke hu mai ha 'ea, pea ke tokanga na'a ko ha
'ea kovi 'oku hu atu - he kuo lahi hono 'uli'i e 'ea fakalotukalafi 'i
onopooni.
Ki ho'o tukuaki (2), tokua 'oku 'ikai te u tali ke manava mai 'a e
Tohitapu mo 'ene faka'uhinga me'a ke 'aonga ki he kakai kotoa pe 'i he
feitu'u kotoa pe he taimi kotoa pe. 'Oku ou fiefia 'i ho'o fokotu'u
mai e mo'oni'ime'a ko e "Tohitapu" ko e "Tohi mo hono faka'uhinga". He
'oku fakamatala e ngaahi Kosipeli ki he pekia 'a Sisu mo 'ene toetu'u,
kae faka'uhinga'i mai 'i he ngaahi 'Ipiseli, 'e Paula, ta ko 'ene
pekia, koe'uhi ko 'etau ngaahi hia, ko 'ene toetu'u ke fakamo'oni kuo
lava hotau fakatonuhia (1 Kol 15:3-4; Lom 4:25). Talamai ange pe ko e
fe 'a e feitu'u mo ha taimi 'e ta'e'aonga ai 'a e faka'uhinga ko ena
'a e Tohitapu?
'Oku ou tui 'oku ke mea'i 'a 'eku ngaahi pepa kuo pulusi 'i he Pacific
Journal of Theology 'i he Theological Contextualization. Kapau te ke
lau lelei ia te ke 'ilo ai ko hoku palopalema mo e founga lolotonga 'o
e Contextualization 'i he Pasifiki 'a 'eni 'oku ne fakatupu 'a e "Sisu
Tonga", he 'oku ne to'o 'etau tokanga mo 'etau falala mei he Tohitapu
'o tuku ki he ngaahi Talatupu'a fakaono'aho. Mo'oni te tau kehekehe 'i
hono faka'uhinga'i 'o e Tohitapu, kae 'ai mu'a ke mahino te tau
tu'ufakataha 'akitautolu kau faifekau 'i hotau fatongia fakafaifekau
ko 'etau tutuu'i 'e Tohitapu he loto 'o e kakai (Himi 593).
Ka 'oku 'ikai te u fakaanga'i pe 'a e founga Contextualization
lolotonga pea ngata ai. 'Oku ou fokotu'u atu ha founga fo'ou (he'eku
ngaahi pepa he Pacific Journal), pea 'oku taau ke ke vakai ki ai na'a
'aonga kia koe - ko e Intra-Biblical Contextualization 'a e mefoti
'oku ou taukave'i ai. Ko e fehangahangai ia 'o e "Pot-plant
Transportation Method" 'a 'eni 'oku tu'u ai e "Sisu Tonga" (Vakai foki
ki he'eku DMin Dissertation 'i he Faith Lutheran Evangelical Seminary
- 2004). Ko e taumu'a ke fakafoki hotau kakai ke nau falala ki he
Tohitapu ko ee kuo tau tukupa 'i hotau lakanga fakafaifekau te tau
fafanga'aki e fanga sipi 'a e 'Otua 'oku fakafalala mai kiate
kitautolu.
(3) 'Oku 'ikai te u tui ki he "Absolute Knowlege" pe "Exhaustive
knowledge" 'e ha taha 'a e 'Otua mo e Tohitapu. He 'oku fakangatangata
kitautolu 'e hotau natula angahala. Fakamolemole kapau 'oku ongo atu
'eku fakamatala ko ha 'afungi 'o ngali kuo u ma'u 'a e kotoa.
Molekemama'o. Ka 'oku ai e me'a ia ko e "Adequate Knowledge". Ko e
'uhinga ia 'oku lava ai ke tau fetalanoa'aki mo fetohi'aki, he neongo
'e 'ikai ke haohaoa 'eku 'ilo ki ho'o 'uhinga (absolute) ka 'oku
fe'unga pe (adequate) ke lava ke ta fetu'utaki 'o mahino kia au pea u
tali ki ho'o tohi.
(4) Ko 'eku fale'i fakatokoua eni kia koe. Hiki ho'o fakakaukau mei he
lau 'oku ai ha me'a ko e "purely objective" ('opiesi haohaoa) 'i
he'etau talanoa. Kuo loa e hiki 'a e mala'e 'o e fakatotolo
fakasaienisi mo fakahisitolia mei he fakakaukau ko ia he'enau 'ilo ki
hono vaivai. Ko ho'o fakamatala kotoa 'oku "bias" - he ko e fakamatala
'a'au - tatau pe mo au. 'E 'ikai lava ke 'ai ha me'a ia ko e "non-bias
communication", he 'oku ha'i e fakakaukau kotoa pe ki he supiesi
(subject of communication) 'oku fakamatala. (Tukukehe 'a e
Postmodernism 'oku nau feinga ke to'o ka 'oku 'ikai foki lava!). Ka ko
e me'a mahu'inga, 'oku 'ikai ke ta'eliliu (non-negotiable) 'etau
ngaahi fakakaukau fakasupiesi (subjectivtivity) ki ha 'opiesi
(object). He 'oku lava pe ke liliu 'etau fakakaukau (We can be
transformed/changed). Na'e ai ha taimi na'e 'ikai teu tui ai kia Sisu,
ka kuo liliu eni 'eku mo'ui 'ou tui kia Sisu 'o Nasaleti ko hoku
mo'ui'anga ia. Ko e me'a mahu'inga 'i he talanoa pehe ni, ke tau taki
fakaha 'a e makafakinanga fakasupiesi 'o 'ene fakakaukau
(presuppositions). He ko e me'a ia 'oku ne pule'i 'etau fakakaukau ki
ha 'opiesi.
Ko au, 'oku ou tui au ki he mafai 'o e Tohitapu, ko e folofola ia 'a e
'Otua, ko e Tohi mo hono faka'uhinga, pea na'e manava'aki mai 'e he
'Otua 'a e Tohitapu 'o hiki 'e he kau fa'utohi 'i he fotunga tohi
kehekehe, ka 'oku 'aonga foki ki he faka'ilohala ki he akonaki ki he
fakatonutonu ki he ngaohia ke ma'oni'oni ke tu'ukakato 'a e tangata
faka'otua kuo 'osi sauni ki he ngaue lelei fulipe, 'i he feitu'u kotoa
pe, 'i he kuonga kotoa pe. Ko e 'uhinga ia 'oku hu'u pehe ai 'eku
ngaahi fakamatala 'oku ha atu 'i he fakamafolatohi ni.
Fakamolemole he fu'u loloa ka ko e feinga (attempt) pe ke mahino. Pea
ke tokanga'i atu aipe mu'a 'etau ki'i kau pakipaki 'i Dee Why/Manly he
kuo fuoloa 'a e 'ikai te u toe lava atu ki ai. Lahi pe e foo mo e
to'otama 'i 'api ni.
'ofa atu kia koe mo e famili,
Ma'afu
On Jun 27, 9:50 pm, Semisi Kava <semisi.k...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Tulou atu moe kaunga fononga ‘i he tui he paenga ni kae ‘ataa keu lavelave atu. ‘Oku ou fakamalo atu ki he ta’okete Faifekau ko ‘eni (Ma’afu) he’ene kau mai ki he’etau fakalotofale’ia ni pea ‘oku fakamafana. Kimu’a pea u hoko atu ki ha hano lave’i ‘oe kaveinga ni ‘oku ou faka’amu keu tomu’a fakama’ala’ala ‘ae ngaahi fehu’i ni he ala tokoni ia ki hano fakalakalaka ‘ae kaveinga ni.
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> Koha ki’i fakakaukau
> Koe fo’i lea malie taha kiate au he mala’e ‘oe Tala’otua koe fo’i lea koe “ATTEMPT.” Ko ha’aku ki’i fakatonga ki ai koe “FEINGA PE” I he lea ni ‘oku ne fakamatala kakato ai kiate au “Kohai ‘ae ‘Otua pea Kohai au?” Koe fakakaukau ‘oe fa’unga ‘oe Lotu 1. Koe fakalangilangi (Fakamatala’i ai kohai ia ‘oku fai ki ai ‘ete lotu, eg; “…’Ae ‘Afiona koe ‘Otua taumama’o koe ngaluope he ope ...” ) 2. Vete (Fakamatala’i ai ko hai leva ‘oku ne fai atu e Lotu. Eg; “…Mau punou homau poko’i mata ni ki he efu he koe fakangatangata ki mautolu moe ‘uli ‘i ho’o ‘aoo…” pea toki hoko atu…3-4-5-6 pea toki ‘emeni. Ko ha taha kuo ne claim kuo ne ‘ilo faka’aufuli ‘ae mo’oni ‘oe Tohitapu ‘oku ne tokoni leva ia ki hano fakanenefu’i ‘oe mo’oni ko ia. He ‘oku te’eki tene lava ke tali ‘ae fehu’i “Kohai ‘ae ‘Otua pea Kohai au?” ‘Oku ho’ata mei he tokotaha ko ia
> ‘ae ngaahi mo’oni’i me’a ko ‘eni: 1. Tatapuni fale fakatala’otua 2. ‘Ikai tene toe tali ke si’i manava hake ‘ae Tohitapu ‘iate ia pe mo ’ene faka’uhinga ke fe’unga moe tukunga ‘oe kakai kotoa pe ‘ihe feitu’u kotoa pe pea ‘i he taimi kotoa pe, he na’e ‘ikai si’i hiki ‘ae tohi ni ke fakataumu’a ki ha fo’i kakai pe ‘e taha ‘ihe feitu’u pe ‘e taha. Kia te au koe lea Tala’otua pe Lotukalafi ko ha’atau feinga pe ke fakamatala’i ‘ae ‘Otua. ‘Oku ou tui koe fa’ahinga tala’otua pehee na’e ‘i he Laumalie ‘o Dr. Molitoni “Pea ka ‘iloange teu sioa ‘a Sisu tonu ‘o femataaki teu toki ‘ilo kano ‘ae loloa loloto ma’olunga ivi lahi he ‘Ofa hulu”
> Ko ha ki’i fehu’i
> 1.’E hoku tokoua Sitiveni! ‘Oku faingata’a’ia ‘ae kau muimui e kaveinga ni he ‘oku ‘ikai tuhu’i mahino mai ki he fale ni koe fee koaa ‘ae tu’unga ‘o Sisu (Christology) ‘oku ke fematematei mai ai hono taukave’i pea ke tu’u ma’u ai, kae objection ‘ae talangaa? Hange ko ‘eni: ‘uluaki ‘ai hono Divinity pea ‘e focus leva ‘ae talanga ai pea mo hono ngaahi fakafelave’i kotokotoa pe ‘e ala ma’u pea ka toki ‘osi ia pea toki hoko ki hono Humanity koe’uhi ke tatafe pea maau he tene fakakoloa ‘e ia ‘ae paenga ni. He kapau te tau fakatokanga’i ‘ae aafe holo ‘ae talanga ‘o ngali ‘oku mata vaivai e ‘ihi pea ngavaivai e ‘ihi koe tupu mei he ‘ikai objection e issue, he ‘oku tokanga mai e ta’okete koee ‘i hono Divinity kae fevalevalei atu e leka koee hono Humanity. ‘Oku mahino ‘aupito pe ‘ae ta’emala ke fakamavahevahe’i ‘a hono ongo tu’unga ko ia, ka koe feinga pe ha me’a ke
> Constructive Criticism ‘ae talanga ka ‘oku ‘ikai koe Destructive Criticism pea ‘oku ou tui ‘e tatafe fakatautehine leva ‘etau fe’inasi’aki.
> 2. Koe ‘eku fehu’i atu pe ki he fale ni pe koe fa’ahinga kalasi Tohitapu fe ‘oku fai mei ai ‘a ‘etau ngaahi ma’u’anga fakamatala? Ko ‘eku ‘uhingaa he ‘oku taimi lahi hono fa’a ngaue mai’aki ‘ae lea “Koe lau ‘eni ‘ae Tohitapu” pe koe “Sisu koee ‘oku ‘asi he Tohitapu” pe koe “Sisu ‘o Nasaleti” Kiate au matamata koe ngaahi Tohitapu ‘oku kehekehe hono lalahi. Tau fakataataa’aki ‘eni: Koe Tohitapu koee ‘oku fematematei atu ai ‘a Hunuhunu mo Lotopoha “koe kalasi iiki pe kidkid” ia ka koe “kalasi lalahi ‘ena ia Veni ‘oku ‘ia koe.” ‘Oku ou ‘uhinga heni ki he fakaleveleva ‘a hono tatapuni fale’i kotoa ‘e si’i tokoua ni (veni) ‘ae ngaahi faka’uhinga tohitapu kotoa ‘ae fale ni ‘oku ‘ikai hoa moe lau ‘ene fu’u Tohitapu kalasi lalahi (6XL). Na’a ‘oku ke ma’u ‘e koe tokoua ‘ae fu’u Original Script ‘oe Tohitapu pea mo hono Commentary totonu kae upload
> hake ke tau ‘inasi kotoa mei ai.
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> Ko ha ki’i usuusu
> 1.Na’e lolotonga fai ‘emau faikava tame’a pe he hall ‘i Vava’u ‘oku ui ko Nasaleti pea moe hu mai ‘ae fu’u konaa mo ‘ene peleti kale. Koe kamata kene ma’u ia moe toe hu hake moe tangata’eiki pe ‘oku si’i ‘atamai vaivai. Na’e tuai e kemo kuo tu’u hake ‘ae fu’u konaa ni ‘o ‘ave ‘ene me’akai ma’ae tangata’eiki pea ne toe ‘oange kotoa mo ‘ene toenga penipeni ki ai ‘a ia ko hono fakakatoa na’e fe’unga kotoa moe seniti ‘e 7. Pea puli atu ‘ae tangata’eiki ia kae pehee hake ‘ae palangi pisikoa ia he faikava ka ‘oku poto pe ia he’etau lea” Kau Tangataa! Kuo u lava he ‘aho ni keu sio kia SISU ‘i NASALETI NI” pea u talaange “he ‘oku ‘ikai teke fanonga koaa koe ‘i falelotu kia Patele hono toutou lau atu ‘a Sisu he Tohitapu?” Talamai ‘e ia “‘oku ‘i Vava’u ni pe ia misi.” “Ko ia ‘oku ne fai ki he si’i hifo ko ‘ene fai ia kiate au. Na’a ke sio ki he me’a
> ‘ae konaa na’e fai ‘ane nai ko Sisu mo’oni ia. ‘OOooo ta koe Sisu ‘eni ia ‘oku ‘i Nasaleti pe ia ‘i Vava’u kohu foki au ‘oku i heee pee masi’i tokoua pea mo ‘ema kata ‘oma hao ai pe he fo’i inu ko ia.
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> 2.Na’e ‘i ai e motu’a pe ‘a mautolu mei Kolomotu’a na’e fai ‘ene po malanga fo’ou ‘I Tufuenga. Pea fiefia e hoa ‘one fakatau mai ‘ene fu’u Tohitapu fo’ou. Pea hanga ‘ehe motu’a malanga ‘o ‘ai e fo’i tu’aniu ‘o faka’ilonga’i’aki ‘a 2 Pita 1:4 he ko ia ‘ene veesi malanga. Ta koe na’e kilofi atu ia ‘e hono kaunga faikava ‘ae fo’i tu’aniu pea ne toho’i mai ‘e ia ‘o heu nifo’aki (hufanga he fakatapu) pea koe fee ‘ene fakaava hake ‘ene Tohitapu fo’ou he funga tu’unga kuo puli ‘ae fo’i tu’aniu ia pea kamata kene huke takai holo ‘ae tohi mo ‘ene pupuha’ia pea kaka hake ‘ae faifekau ‘o ‘oatu ‘ene Tohitapu ki ai. Kae kehe koe ‘osi ‘ae malanga pea foakiange ai pe ‘e he motu’a ‘ene Tohitapu fo’ou ma’ae faifekau pea ko ‘eni ‘ene lea “ Faifekau ma’u ‘e koe ‘ae Tohitapu ko ‘eni na’e kumi mai ‘ehe hoa, he ta koee ‘oku ‘ikai ‘asi ‘a 2
> Pita ia ai.” Sio ki he malie seni ee!! Veni kataki pe ka ke toe vaka’i lelei ‘ae kalasi lalahi ko ‘ena na’a ‘oku ‘ikai ‘asi ai ‘a SISU KOE IMANUELA KOE OTUA ‘I HOTAU LOTOLOTONGA!!
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> Koha ki’i tokanga
> Kau tanagata moe kau fefine ‘oe paenga ni tau fe’inasi’aki he malohi taha moe fefeka taha kae fai’aki pe ‘ae loto lelei koe matu’aki fakakoloa ki he’etau mo’ui Fakalaumalie na’a hoko ‘ae paenga ni mo hono ngaahi taukave ke mole pea momoko ai hotau va Fakalaumalie ‘ae me’a mahu’inga taha he mo’ui ni he ko ‘etau ojective ke achieve hili ‘ae mo’ui ni. “Koe loto haohaoa koe ‘IMISI ‘o ’OU (Sisu). Ko hai pe ‘oku loto haohaoa he paenga ni koe ‘imisi ia ‘o Sisu he mo’ui ko ia.
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> Toki ‘osi ‘emau fakamalohi sino koe to’o noa pe foki he ‘oku kehe ‘ae kuonga mo hono ‘alunga pea kuo fai e lulunga masi’i mapuhoi ee.
> malo
> Rev. Semisi Kava
> (Koe pule le’ole’o ‘oe vahefonua ‘Aositelelia he fo’i uike pe ‘e ua nai mo ha ngaahi miniti si’i pe lolotonga ‘ae Konifelenisi. Koe ‘ai atu pe na’a fiema’u masi’i hunuhunu ki he talitali malanga ‘a pongipongi ee!!)
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