Re: "Tepile 'oe fe'inasi'aki fakauike..moe ngaahi lesoni fakasapate"....Koe Same 45:10-17

[Semisi Kava]

Tulou atu moe paenga 'eiki ni kau hifo atu pe 'i toumu'a ke fakahoko atu e ki'i fafasi 'a hiahiapo ni. Ko e ki'i fakamohe huo ni 'oku 'ikai ko ha tepile fo'ou ia ki he paenga ni. Ko hono toe faka'ilonga'i atu pe 'ae tu'unga fale motu'a...moe kau mu'aki he tepile ni (tulou atu) na'a tekana mai ha melenga ma'ae kau matalafo fakalaumalie ko ha matekitaki ia ke toki fakaola mei ai ha ngaahi maama fakalaumalie (malanga/ fai lotu etc) 'i he tapa pe 'oe fiema'u tokoni. Mou kataki fakamolemole kae fakakoloa mai ho'o mou ngaahi 'oa he ngaahi lesoni fakasapate. 'E tuku faka'aho atu pe 'ae ngaahi lesoni....Tusite ko Senesi pea hokohoko atu pehee ai pe.... "'Oku lahi/ motu'u 'ae ta'u ka 'oku tokosi'i e kau tu'usi..kole 'ae 'Eiki 'oe ta'u ke toe fakatoko lahi mai 'ene kau ngaue....pea koe taha 'eni ai...malo


Same 45:10-17

10 Fanongo mai, ngaʻatā, ʻo vakai; ʻIo, ke ke fokotuʻu telinga mai, Pea ke ngalo ʻiate koe ho kakai, ʻIo, mo e ʻapi ʻo hoʻo tamai; 11 Kae manako ʻa e tuʻi ʻi ho hoihoifua: He ko ho ʻeiki ia; pea te ke hu kiate ia. 12 Pea naʻa mo e taʻahine Taia te ne haʻu mo e meaʻofa; ʻIo, ko e kakai koloaʻia taha te nau ngaūe ke momole ho fofonga. 13 Ko e koto langilangi ʻa e ʻofefine ʻo e tuʻi, ʻo fai ki loto, He lalanga hono kofu ʻaki ʻa e koula filo. ʻE fola ha fala faka ʻingo ʻingo ʻi hono ʻave ki he ʻafio: 14 Ko e kau taʻahine ʻoku muimui atu ko hono takanga, Ko e ʻomi ai pe ki he ʻafiona. 15 ʻE taki atu kinautolu mo e fuʻu fiefia mo e mavava: Te nau hu ki he palasi ʻo e ʻafiona. 16 ʻE fetongi hoʻo ngaahi tamai ʻe ho ngaahi foha, Te ke fakanofo kinautolu ko e houʻeiki ʻi he ngaahi feituʻu kotoa. 17 Kau ʻai ke manatua ho huafa ʻi he toʻutangata mo e toʻutangata: Ko ia ai ʻe tuku ho kololia e he ngaahi faʻahinga,
ʻo lauikuonga pea taʻengata.

Malo e talano mai...mau teuteu atu pe ki he fa'o mo fanongo

Kavauhi

[Semisi Kava]

"...ka faingamalie pea mou ki'i lave'i mai 'etau lesoni ni...malo

Senesi 24:34-38, 42-49, 58-67



34 Pea ne pehe, Ko e tamaioʻeiki au 35 ʻa Epalahame. Pea kuo fakamonuʻia ʻaupito ʻe Sihova aʻeku ʻeiki; pea kuo ne hoko ʻo lahi: pea kuo ne foaki kiate ia ha fanga sipi, mo ha fanga pulu, mo ha siliva mo ha koula, mo ha kau tamaioʻeiki mo ha kau kaunanga, mo ha fanga 36 kameli mo ha fanga asi. Pea ko Sela, ko e uaifi ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki, naʻa ne fanauʻi ha foha ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki ka kuo ne motuʻa, pea ko ia kuo ne tuku ki 37 ai ʻene meʻa kotoa. Pea naʻe fakafuakava au ʻe heʻeku ʻeiki, ʻo pehe, ʻE ʻikai te ke kumi uaifi mai ki hoku foha mei he kau fefine ʻo haʻa Kenani, ʻa ia ʻoku ou nofo ʻi honau 38 fonua; ka te ke ʻalu ki he ʻapi oʻeku tamai, pea ki hoku kainga, pea te ke kumi mei ai ha uaifi ki hoku foha....


42-49


Pea u aʻu mai he ʻaho ni ki he vai; pea u pehe, ʻE Sihova, ko e ʻOtua ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki ko Epalahame; kapau ko hoʻo fakamonuʻia moʻoni ʻa e fononga ʻoku 43 ou fai: ko eni, lolotonga ʻeku tuʻu ʻi he funga vai; pea ka haʻu ha finemui ke ʻutu vai, pea u pehe kiate ia, ʻE, tuku mai ke u inu ha huʻa vai mei ho siā; pea ka pehe mai ʻe ia, 44 inu pe koe, pea te u ʻutu ki hoʻo fanga kameli foki: ʻofa ko e fefine ia kuo tuʻutuʻuni ʻe Sihova ki he foha ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki. Pea kuo teʻeki ke 45 ʻosi ʻeku lea ʻi hoku loto, mo e ʻiloange ʻoku hu mai ʻa Lepeka, ʻoku hili ʻene siā ʻi hono uma; pea ne ʻalu hifo ki he vai ʻo ʻutu; pea u pehe kiate ia, Mai haku inu, ʻine 46 koā. Pea ne fakatoʻotoʻo, ʻo tuku hifo ʻene siā mei hono uma, mo ne pehe, inu pe, pea te u fakainu foki hoʻo fanga kameli: pea u inu pea naʻa ne fakainu foki ʻa e fanga 47 kameli. Pea u fehu ʻi kiate ia ʻo u pehe, Ko e ʻofefine ʻo hai koe? Pea pehe ʻe
ia, Ko e ʻofefine ʻo Petueli, ko e foha ia ʻo Nehoa, ʻa ia ne fanauʻi kiate ia ʻe Milika: pea u ʻai ʻa e mama ki hono ihu, mo e 48 ongo lelu ki hono nima. Pea u punou ʻo hu kia Sihova, ʻo u fakamalo kia Sihova ko e ʻOtua ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki ko Epalahame, ʻa ia kuo ne taki au ʻi he hala totonu ke kumi ʻa e ʻofefine ʻo e tokoua ‘o ʻeku ʻeiki 49 maʻa hono foha. Pea ko eni, kapau ʻoku mou pehe ke fai ʻa e ʻofa mo e moʻoni ki heʻeku ʻeiki, tala mai: pea ka ʻikai, pea tala mai; kau afe ki he toʻomataʻu, pe ki he toʻohema.



58-67


Pea na pehe, ʻOua ke ma ui ʻa e taʻahine, ʻo 58 fehuʻi pe ko e ha hono loto. Pea na ui mai ʻa Lepeka, pea na pehe kiate ia, Te ke ʻalu mo e tangata ni? Pea ne pehe, Te u ʻalu. 59 Pea nau toki tukuange honau tuofefine ko Lepeka, mo hono fefine tauhi, pea mo e tamaioʻeiki ʻa 60 Epalahame mo hono kakai. Pea nau tapuakiʻi ʻa Lepeka, mo nau pehe ki ai, Ngaʻatā, ko siʻomau tuofefine, ʻofa keke hoko koe ngaahi mano laui afe; pea ke maʻu ʻe ho hako ʻa e ngaahi matanikolo ʻo e kakai ʻoku fehiʻa kiate kinautolu. 61 Pea tutuʻu ʻa Lepeka mo hono kau fefine, pea nau heka kameli ʻo muimui ki he tangata; pea ʻave ʻe he tamaioʻeiki ʻa Lepeka, ʻo ne fononga. 62 Pea ta naʻe haʻu ʻa Aisake mei heʻene ʻalu ki Pealehailoʻai; he naʻa ne nofo ʻi he feituʻu ko Tonga. 63 Pea ʻalu ʻa Aisake ke fai ʻene lotu ʻi he ngoueʻi heʻene efiafi hifo: pea ne tāngaki hake ʻo ne vakai, ta ʻoku 64 haʻu ha fononga kameli. Pea tāngaki hake foki
ʻa Lepeka, ʻo ne ʻilo ʻa Aisake; pea ne hopo ki lalo 65 mei he kameli. Pea ne pehe ki he tamaioʻeiki, Ko hai ʻa e tangata ko ena ʻoku laka mai ʻi he ngoue ke fakafetaulaki mai kiate kitautolu? Pea pehe ʻe he tamaioʻeiki, Ko ʻeku ʻeiki ia. Pea toʻo ʻe he fefine hono pulou, ʻo ʻai. 66 Pea fakamatala ʻe he tamaioʻeiki kia Aisake ʻa e ngaahi meʻa kotoa pe 67 kuo ne fai. Pea ʻave ʻe Aisake ʻa e fefine ki he teniti oʻene faʻe ko Sela; pea ne hanga ʻo maʻu ʻa Lepeka mono uaifi: pea ne ʻofa ki ai: pea ko ʻene toki fiemalie ē ʻa Aisake talu ʻa e fai ‘o ʻene faʻe.




Kavauhi

[Maafu Palu]

'Oku ai e lau he Saame 37 o pehe, tekaki kia Sihova ho ngaahi 'alunga pea te ne fakaai e ngaahi holi a ho loto. Na'a ko e talanoa eni 'oku kau he sio kiai a e fa'u saame.
Shalom

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[Semisi Kava]

Loma 7:15-25

15 He talaʻehai ʻoku ou ʻilo ʻa e meʻa ʻoku ou ngaūe ki ai: he ʻoku ʻikai ko e meʻa ʻoku ou fie fai ʻa ia ʻoku ou fai; ka ko e meʻa ʻoku ou fehiʻa ki ai, 16 ko ia ʻoku ou fai. Pea kapau ko e meʻa ʻoku ʻikai te u fie fai ʻa ia ʻoku ou fai, ta ʻoku ou fakamoʻoni ai ki 17 he Lao ʻoku lelei ia. Pea ʻi he tuʻu ko ia, talaʻehai ʻoku kei ko kita ia ʻoku ngaūe ki he meʻa ko ia, ka ko 18 Angahala ʻoku fale ʻiate au. Seuke, kuo u ʻilo, ko e meʻa kiate au, ʻa ia ko e pehe ki hoku kakano, ʻoku ʻikai ke fale ai ha lelei ʻe taha: he ʻoku tolotui mai ʻa e fie fai lelei, ka 19 ko hono fai, ʻoku ʻikai. ʻIo, ko e lelei ʻoku ou fie fai ʻoku ʻikai te u fai; kaekehe, ko e kovi, ʻa ia ʻoku ʻikai te u fie fai, ko ia ia ʻoku ou feia. 20 Pea kapau ko e meʻa ʻoku ʻikai te u fie fai, ko ia ia ʻoku ou fai, talaʻehai ʻoku kei ko kita ia ʻoku ngaūe ki he meʻa ko ia, ka ko Angahala ʻoku fale ʻiate au. 21 Pea ko ia ʻoku ou
ongona, lolotonga ʻoku te tokanga kita ki he Lao, ke te fai lelei, ta ʻoku tolotui mai kia kita ʻa e fai kovi. 22 Seuke, ʻoku te kaungāmalie ʻia mo e lao ʻa e ʻOtua, ʻa hoto tangataʻiloto; 23 ka ʻoku ha kiate au ha lao kehe ʻoku nofo i hoku ngaahi kupu, ʻo fai tau mo e lao ʻo hoku loto, mo takipopula au ki he lao angahala ʻia ʻoku nofo ʻi hoku ngaahi kupu. 24 ʻOiaue! siʻi toki malaʻia kita! ko hai tū te ne hamusi au mei he sino ʻoku mei ai ʻa e mate ni?

Mou ki’i lave mai ke tokoni atu ki he kau teu malanga he ‘Ipiseli ni....malo

Kavauhi

[Semisi Kava]

‘Oku ha mahino mei he fakamatala ni ‘ae ‘ulungaanga ‘oku fekuki faka’aho ai ‘ae tangata tui mo hono sino kuo ‘i ai ‘ae angahala (kakano) ‘i he uhouhonga ‘o ‘ene fakahaohaoa’i ia ma’ae ‘Otua.

‘I he veesi 14 ‘oku fai ai ‘e Paula ha fo’i fakahoko talanoa mei he 13. Koe pehe ko ia ‘e Paula he veesi 12 “He ‘oku tau lau‘ilo ‘oku fakalaumalie ‘ae lao...” Koe Lao ko ia koe hu’u ia mei he ‘Otua (Sione 4:24) pea ko hono fatongia ko hono fakaongo atu ‘ae finangalo ‘oe ‘Otua ki he tangata. ‘Oku ngaue’aki leva heni ‘e Paula ‘a ia koe fakatata “…ka ko kita koe kakano ‘ataa.. (sarkinos, “fleshy, made of flesh”).…pea ne toe tanaki atu…. pea kuo fakatau kita.. (perf. tense, “had been sold and remained in that state”)… ki he Angahala.. (lit. “under the sin”; cf. “under sin” sio kia Loma 3:9).


‘I hono ngaue’aki ‘e Paula ‘ene a’usia ‘i he veesi 14-25 ‘oku ne ngaue tu’uma’u ‘aki ‘ae taimi lolotonga (present tense) ke fakamatala’i’aki ‘ae fakakaukau ‘oe fangatua pe fekuki ‘ae feinga fakahaohaoa ‘ae tangata ‘oku ‘i ‘ae sino angahala. ‘Oku ha mahino foki ‘ene feinga fakamatala’i ‘a hono faingata’a’ia he lolotonga ni he fekuki moe fakakaukau ni ‘oku hangee ia ha Kalisitiane kuo nofo’ia ai ha angahala pea ‘oku na fetukuaki he taimi kotoa pe pe kohai ‘e malohi ke ne tataki ia. Na’e tuku ‘a mamani ke taki au falala ki hoku loto fielahi ke taki au….. Koe’uhi kuo….fakatau kita ki he Angahala…(“sold under sin” (KJV) ko ia ai kuo fakalele kita ‘e he tokotaha ko ia (owner/ angahala) ‘a ia ko ha mo’ui kuo ma’u kii’i ‘e he Anghala neongo koe Kalisitine pe ia “’Oku mau popula he ngaahi Angahala ma’u ki’ii ‘e he Toko Taha Kovi ‘o mau ‘auhia hifo he mate
ta’engata kae ‘ikai ha taha ke langomi…Hono ai si’a ‘ofa ki homau laumalie pea huluhulu homau hala? Mau mo’ui kuii ‘o to ki heli ka kohai ha taha ‘e tokanga? (Himi 621)



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On Tue, 1/7/14, 'Semisi Kava' via Tasilisili-he-ngaluope <tasil...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: "Tepile 'oe fe'inasi'aki fakauike..moe ngaahi lesoni fakasapate".... TOHI LOMA 7:15-25
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 1 July, 2014, 10:20 PM

[Maafu Palu]

'Oku tau tauhi ki ha 'Otua 'oku ne tali 'etau lotu mo kau he'etau me'a kotoa.

Shalom

[Semisi Kava]

SENESI 25:19-34

Pea to mai ʻa e ʻuluaki kuo kulokula, ʻo hange ko e kofu fulufulu ʻi manu hono kotoa; pea nau fakahingoa ia ko Isoa [ko 26 Fulufulua]. Pea hili ia naʻe to mai hono tokoua ʻoku ne puke ʻa e muivaʻe ʻo Isoa; pea nau fakahingoa ia ko Sekope [ko Hakivaʻe]: pea naʻe feʻunga ʻa Aisake mo e taʻu ʻe onongofulu ʻi heʻene faʻeleʻi kinaua. 27 Pea hoko ʻo lalahi ʻa e ongo tamaiki: pea ko e faiva ʻo Isoa ko e tulimanu, ko e tama taka vao ia; ka ko Sekope naʻe angamaopo, ko e 28 tama taka fale. Pea peleʻaki ʻe Aisake ʻa Isoa, koeʻuhi ko ʻene kai kiki mei heʻene tulimanu: ka ko Sekope ʻa e pele ʻa Lepeka. 29 Tokua naʻe fai ʻe Sekope ʻene haka sepo, mo e aʻu mai ʻa Isoa mei 30 he vao kuo ne ʻaungalua: pea pehe ʻe Isoa kia Sekope, ʻE, ʻomi haʻaku meʻi meʻa kula ke u folo, ʻa e kula na; he kuo u ʻaungalua: ko hono ʻuhinga ia naʻe hingoa ai ko Itomi 31 [ko Kula]. Pea pehe ʻe Sekope, Pe ʻi fakatau ni kiate au ʻa e hoko. 32
Pea pehe ʻe Isoa, ʻA, ko ʻeku fakaaʻau eni ki he mate; pea ko e ha hono ʻaonga ʻo e meʻa ko ia kiate 33 au, ʻa e tuʻunga hoko? Pea pehe ʻe Sekope, Pe ʻi fuakava mai leva. Pea ne fuakava kiate ia: ʻo ne fakatau kia Sekope hono tuʻunga 34 hoko. Pea toki ʻange ʻe Sekope kia Isoa ha ma mo ha sepo pini, pea ne kai mo inu; pea toki tuʻu ia ʻo ʻalu. Ko e va ʻingaʻaki ē ʻe Isoa ʻa e tuʻunga hoko.

Ka ke faingamalie pea ke vahevahe mai

Kavauhi

[Sami Pakofe]

Malo Kavauhi,,,,,,,,, koe 'eke pe 'eni ,, koe 'uhi koe fakalea 'ae Tohitapu ;;;;;;;kia 'ISOA , Pea to mai ʻa e ʻuluaki kuo kulokula, ʻo hange ko e kofu fulufulu ʻi manu hono kotoa,,,

me'a ni tetau pehee ko Isoa, na'e meimei hange ha ' Ngeli ', HE KOE LAU 'ENA NE HANGE HA kOFU FULUFULU;IMANU HONO SINO KOTOA ? 'e'iai ha toe fakalea ange , ke 'oua tene hanga 'o "pau'usi'ii 'a Isoa ?.. ke pehe koe tama na'e lou'ulu loloa,, he tene talamai aipe 'ae fotunga  e sino 'o Isoa,, ka kuo lele pe 'ae hikitohi ia, kihe " fulufulua e sino 'oe pepee 'Isoa........ 

kataki pe;

sami.

SENESI 25:19-342014-07-07 9:24 GMT+10:00 'Semisi Kava' via Tasilisili-he-ngaluope <tasil...@googlegroups.com>:

[Semisi Kava]

Sami: "...;;;;;;;kia 'ISOA , Pea to

mai ʻa e ʻuluaki kuo kulokula, ʻo hange ko e kofu
fulufulu ʻi manu hono kotoa,,,

'Atamai malie lahi e fifili....ka na'e 'uhinga pe 'ene to mai 'oku "Kulokula" he na'e fie huu pe ia ki he Kolisi Tonga mei manava pea toe ofi atu pe ki Tokomololo hhhh...Ko Kope ia na'e ta'u taha fakataha kinautolu mo Rev. Nau Taitusi 'i Toloa koe sulu pe ia na'e manako ki he fusi e luu 'ae kau tiuta...hhhhhh koe me'a ia 'oku fa'a falani kula ai pe 'etau 'Isoa 'i Kalapu 'o palu kava'aki....hhhhhh...Soorry mite!...'ioo....fu'u momoko atu Sam e efiafi ni...topai.com.au ki ai.....malo

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Subject: Re: [tasilisili] Re: "Tepile 'oe fe'inasi'aki fakauike..moe ngaahi lesoni fakasapate"....SENESI 25:19-34
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Received: Monday, 7 July, 2014, 8:21 AM

[kolo maile]

Fefe kapau koe 'uluaki 'asi eni 'ae 'ulungaanga fakafafine 'ia Sekope. Sami koe fifili pe. Isoa koe missing link ia 'oku vivili kiai 'ae kau sainisi. Homo erectus moe homo sapiens.

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[Sami Pakofe]

2014-07-08 4:54 GMT+10:00 kolo maile <kolo...@hotmail.com>:

Fefe kapau koe 'uluaki 'asi eni 'ae 'ulungaanga fakafafine 'ia Sekope. Sami koe fifili pe. Isoa koe missing link ia 'oku vivili kiai 'ae kau sainisi. Homo erectus moe homo sapiens.

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